Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia [by Eupedia Team]

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Congrats to everyone involved in this project. Well done. Thanks to the Eupedia team for allowing us here to sort of develop the "prototype" so to speak by running our coordinates. Now if I can only get Dnagenics downloaded on my computer without any problems.
 
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Thank you for all the help. The results of my grandfather brother:

8.26240885ANI163_Varna_Outlier
8.31611688I0115_ESP3_Unetice_EBA_Esperstedt_Germany_1931-1780_calBCE
9.09702149AlemannicBavariaBIM_33
9.87881572I0803_EUL41_Unetice_EBA_Eulau_Germany_2115-1996_calBCE
10.42996165Szolad25
10.95987226Collegno97
11.03255184R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
11.12212210Szolad24
11.12478314Szolad42
11.16432264I12162_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
11.38584209Szolad12
11.58534419Szolad11
12.13064302I0111_ROT4_Bell_Beaker_LN_Rothenschirmbach_Germany_2497-2436_calBCE
12.15458350Szolad13
12.15509358Szolad5
12.41763262I0047_HAL16_Unetice_EBA_Halberstadt-Sonntagsfeld_Germany_2022-1937_calBCE
12.41966183Szolad30
12.63893983I0117_ESP29_Unetice_EBA_Esperstedt_Germany_2199-2064_calBCE
12.66296964CrusaderKnightCelto-GermanicLebanonCrusaderSI39
12.90402650Szolad22
13.06638435R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
13.38638487VisigothGermanicGirona_I12163
13.57785697Szolad38
13.63440501Szolad23
13.77947387I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical

He was closer all the ancients samples (the varna outlier, unetice samples, alemannic and longobard samples) like me, It depends the two generation closer connection. Or not?
 
I'm interested to see how this will change with the upcoming samples from the Reich paper. I will use them to update the Ancient Rome Test to 2.0

Jovialis: Any chance you and Duarte will estimate the Dodecad 12B coordinates for the two recent papers dealing with Sardinia and the one dealing with Steppe ancestry into Sardinia and Sicily? Or is that the Reich Paper you are referring to. If not, that suggest there is another paper using Roman samples coming out, which would be great as well.
 



My results with source data displayed in the posts above, including a plot (PCA):

Top 25 + top 60
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Admixture, distance 1.44457412
xihzCJm.png


PCA:
UlaA8y3.png

zqnCtUN.png

y1Uzsj7.png
 
Jovialis: Any chance you and Duarte will estimate the Dodecad 12B coordinates for the two recent papers dealing with Sardinia and the one dealing with Steppe ancestry into Sardinia and Sicily? Or is that the Reich Paper you are referring to. If not, that suggest there is another paper using Roman samples coming out, which would be great as well.

Hi @Palermo Trapani

I think that Jovialis refers to a paper to be published bringing old samples from Sardinia and Sicily. Jovialis may be able to give you better information.

Cheers ;)
 
Hi @Palermo Trapani

I think that Jovialis refers to a paper to be published bringing old samples from Sardinia and Sicily. Jovialis may be able to give you better information.

Cheers ;)

Ok, thanks.
 
My results with source data displayed in the posts above, including a plot (PCA):

Top 25 + top 60
01bwhqY.png


Admixture, distance 1.44457412
xihzCJm.png


PCA:
UlaA8y3.png

zqnCtUN.png

y1Uzsj7.png

DNA Genics results, for comparison:
IRUZxnf.png

HG6qFqv.png

mNcIGHz.png

aqJbO7z.png
 
Here are Anatolian Neolithic samples from Hofmanova et al. 2016

I obtained the samples from open-genomes.org, because the BAM files from ENA were not converting properly.


Code:
Early farmers from across Europe directly descended from Neolithic Aegeans


[URL]https://www.pnas.org/content/113/25/6886[/URL]
[URL]http://www.open-genomes.org/genomes/Hofmanova%20(2016)/[/URL]


Anatolia_N_Bar31_Barcin,0.00,0.00,5.07,0.00,45.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,14.06,0.00,33.55,1.78    
Anatolia_N_Bar8_Barcin,0.00,0.00,5.93,0.00,45.87,0.00,0.00,0.02,14.04,0.14,33.65,0.36    
Anatolia_N_Klei10,0.00,0.00,4.54,0.00,46.69,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.45,0.00,34.37,0.95    
Anatolia_N_Rev5,0.00,0.00,6.24,1.13,46.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.83,0.00,30.05,4.81
 
Jovialis: thanks again for these coordinates.My distances 21.6 to 23.1.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
21.62702245Anatolia_N_Bar31_Barcin
21.86340779Anatolia_N_Bar8_Barcin
22.43111009Anatolia_N_Klei10
23.13692071Anatolia_N_Rev5
 
Hi Trapani. THX Jovialis:
Far away from me also.

9CwPtV9.png
 
Hi Trapani. THX Jovialis:
Far away from me also.

9CwPtV9.png


Duarte: Do you know off hand what exact dates these samples are from I went to the supplements and looked over the paper. The paper doesn't have them in there (I think, or I missed it) and there are 122 pages in the supplements.
 
Duarte: Thanks. Interestingly of the 2 Y-DNA Haplogroups they were able to determine, both G (similar to Otzi).

You are right Trapani.

Ötzi's full genome has been sequenced; the report on this was published on 28 February 2012. The Y chromosome DNA of Ötzi belongs to a subclade of G defined by the SNPs M201, P287, P15, L223 and L91 (G-L91, ISOGG G2a2b, former "G2a4"). He was not typed for any of the subclades downstreaming from G-L91; however, an analysis of his BAM file revealed that he belongs to the L166 and FGC5672 subclades below L91. G-L91 is now mostly found in South Corsica.

Cheers :)
 
my families new split ............only up to 6.0

me
Distance to:Torziok12b
1.89726118R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.40054542I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
4.63928874R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
4.65249395R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
4.82277928Collegno23
4.86300319R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.02880702I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.21492090R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto


98.4R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna1.6Szolad27

my father below
Distance to:PonzanoK12b
2.96722092R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.88872171I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.02758391R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
5.03138152R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
5.17989382I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.65693380R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
5.67751706Collegno49
5.88861614R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.95225167Szolad28

81.4R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna10.6R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna8.0Collegno47



my male cousin from Belluno
Distance to:BelunPk12b
2.85040348I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
2.89129729R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.95218563R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
3.00813896I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
3.06084956R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
4.34786154Szolad28
5.05758836Collegno23
5.50328993Collegno49


39.6R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna25.2R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro16.8I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge16.8R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto1.6Collegno49


my female 1st cousin from Trentino is below

Distance to:TrentinoCles
2.53333772R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
2.88975778I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
3.48031608I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
3.75795157R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
3.85072720Szolad28
4.27906532Szolad43
5.06032608I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.88459005I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN


74.4R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
14.6Szolad43
11.0I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
 
The spread of steppe and Iranian-related ancestry in the islands of the western Mediterranean

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1102-0

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/sear...y+in+the+islands+of+the+western+Mediterranean


Code:
I10364_Sardinia_BA_Alghero,0.00,0.00,5.79,0.24,64.33,6.94,0.00,0.00,6.47,0.00,16.22,0.00
I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo,0.00,0.00,5.71,0.30,56.42,7.55,1.01,0.00,9.16,0.00,19.85,0.00
I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus,0.94,0.42,6.15,1.52,38.84,7.43,0.00,0.00,12.67,0.00,31.00,1.03
I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,7.07,0.00,48.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,14.15,0.00,30.20,0.00
I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,2.92,0.00,50.25,6.43,0.00,0.00,9.53,0.00,30.75,0.12
I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,2.73,0.00,47.99,6.22,0.00,0.00,12.46,0.88,29.57,0.14
I10502_Sardinia_BA_Anulù_Seui,0.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,72.27,2.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.67,20.43,0.00
I10552_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.48,0.17,72.12,6.36,0.00,0.00,7.01,0.00,10.86,0.00
I10553_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.30,0.00,68.13,7.19,0.00,0.00,8.46,0.00,12.92,0.00
I10554_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,4.12,0.31,68.87,5.38,0.00,0.00,7.21,0.00,14.03,0.07
I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,4.78,0.00,48.03,9.39,0.00,0.00,10.84,0.47,26.48,0.00
I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,5.49,1.21,1.46,0.38,38.60,32.29,1.45,0.00,2.98,0.00,16.12,0.00
I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi,5.54,0.00,7.01,0.00,30.98,6.58,0.00,1.79,14.89,0.00,33.21,0.00
I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi,10.18,0.00,4.46,0.00,37.70,19.25,0.00,0.00,10.22,0.00,17.70,0.49
I12223_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi,5.67,0.00,0.00,0.00,26.52,0.00,0.37,0.00,21.57,3.33,42.54,0.00
I14675_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.00,5.36,0.00,68.28,6.12,0.00,0.00,7.09,0.21,12.94,0.00
I14676_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.24,3.54,0.00,66.24,8.99,0.00,0.17,7.19,0.00,13.63,0.00
I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.00,5.27,0.00,67.70,0.32,0.00,0.00,8.51,0.00,18.14,0.07
I14678_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.00,5.42,0.00,65.33,3.69,0.00,0.00,10.05,0.10,15.42,0.00
I15939_Sardinia_BA_contam_Anghelu_Ruju,3.90,1.87,8.93,0.00,58.18,4.83,0.00,0.00,5.92,0.00,15.72,0.64
I15940_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,36.31,0.00,19.57,0.00,0.00,14.31,18.39,0.00,6.03,5.38
I15941_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.21,0.00,70.81,4.26,0.00,0.00,5.21,0.04,15.38,0.07
I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.99,0.00,68.81,2.54,0.00,0.00,6.79,0.29,18.46,0.12
I15943_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.74,1.78,74.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,7.78,0.00,11.15,0.00
I15944_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.41,2.35,68.78,3.47,0.00,0.00,6.44,0.00,14.56,0.00
I15945_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,7.16,0.00,67.26,3.63,0.00,0.00,6.47,0.00,14.89,0.59
I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.06,0.00,68.31,4.12,0.00,0.00,10.81,0.62,12.07,0.00
I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,1.48,2.63,58.73,2.73,0.00,0.63,6.27,0.00,27.50,0.03
I16161_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.78,0.61,67.91,6.44,0.00,0.00,6.99,0.00,13.26,0.00
I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.72,0.00,0.77,1.26,51.57,15.82,0.00,0.00,10.24,0.00,19.61,0.00
I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu,0.00,0.00,0.53,0.00,65.94,6.69,0.00,0.00,8.46,0.06,18.32,0.00
I16165_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu,0.00,0.00,5.16,1.50,68.05,3.72,0.00,0.00,8.52,0.00,13.06,0.00
I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu,0.00,0.00,2.29,0.00,62.86,8.55,0.00,0.00,8.30,0.00,18.01,0.00
I16168_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,3.37,0.00,68.14,2.95,0.00,0.00,9.45,0.00,15.79,0.31
I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.43,0.00,67.80,4.25,0.00,0.00,5.88,0.00,17.64,0.00
I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.85,0.82,66.53,6.22,0.00,0.04,7.19,0.00,16.02,0.34
I16183_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.30,0.73,65.78,5.96,0.00,0.00,13.06,0.00,12.16,0.00
I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,5.09,0.00,57.77,4.27,0.00,0.00,9.57,0.33,22.98,0.00
I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,4.39,0.02,48.74,11.73,0.00,0.00,9.86,0.00,25.27,0.00
I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.49,3.79,0.00,49.27,15.29,0.00,0.00,7.27,0.12,23.76,0.00
I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,3.57,0.00,46.58,5.20,0.02,0.00,11.20,0.00,33.40,0.02
I3315_Menorca_LBA_Naveta_des_Tudons_Menorca_Spain,3.14,0.00,3.07,0.00,54.78,26.97,0.00,0.00,2.43,0.74,8.56,0.30
I3642_Sardinia_BA_Alghero,0.00,0.00,5.36,0.00,68.76,4.57,0.00,0.00,8.72,0.00,12.59,0.00
I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.53,0.25,67.43,5.84,0.00,0.00,6.25,0.00,16.61,0.09
I3743_Sardinia_BA_Seulo,0.00,0.00,4.75,0.00,67.34,6.57,0.00,0.00,8.71,0.00,12.63,0.00
I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.44,0.00,3.32,0.45,45.73,8.05,0.00,0.00,8.38,0.00,33.09,0.54
I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,4.85,0.00,47.71,6.41,0.00,0.00,11.13,0.83,28.97,0.11
I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.28,0.00,53.85,2.15,0.00,0.00,12.51,0.00,28.21,0.00
I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.71,0.00,57.80,3.16,0.00,0.00,11.58,0.00,23.71,0.03
I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.45,0.00,55.87,1.16,0.00,0.06,13.36,0.00,26.02,0.07
I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,4.61,0.00,52.59,8.80,0.00,0.23,9.64,0.00,24.13,0.00
I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,3.84,0.00,47.80,4.53,0.00,0.00,12.50,0.00,31.33,0.00
I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain,7.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,53.12,23.11,1.24,1.69,0.00,1.52,10.73,0.65
I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno,0.00,0.00,7.22,0.00,23.35,7.04,0.00,0.00,28.59,0.68,33.11,0.00
I4420_all_Formentera_MBA_Formentera_Spain,3.80,0.00,5.00,1.21,55.42,21.66,1.49,0.00,2.20,0.00,8.82,0.41
I4936_n/a,6.77,0.00,1.24,0.00,58.39,0.00,0.00,3.46,0.00,0.00,30.15,0.00
I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.17,54.27,4.45,0.00,0.00,14.42,0.00,26.01,0.00
I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,2.20,1.13,0.00,40.25,3.45,0.00,0.00,8.82,0.00,44.16,0.00
I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,1.14,0.00,4.99,2.71,43.75,15.60,0.00,0.00,13.10,0.00,18.70,0.00
I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,3.49,5.84,0.00,53.55,3.73,0.00,0.00,16.77,0.00,16.63,0.00
I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,0.00,3.85,0.00,47.37,9.30,0.00,0.00,14.36,0.00,25.12,0.00
I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello,0.58,0.25,2.77,0.00,50.01,21.56,1.15,0.00,6.79,0.37,16.50,0.00
 
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