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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    The spread of steppe and Iranian-related ancestry in the islands of the western Mediterranean

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1102-0

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/searc...+Mediterranean


    Code:
    I10364_Sardinia_BA_Alghero,0.00,0.00,5.79,0.24,64.33,6.94,0.00,0.00,6.47,0.00,16.22,0.00
    I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo,0.00,0.00,5.71,0.30,56.42,7.55,1.01,0.00,9.16,0.00,19.85,0.00
    I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus,0.94,0.42,6.15,1.52,38.84,7.43,0.00,0.00,12.67,0.00,31.00,1.03
    I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,7.07,0.00,48.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,14.15,0.00,30.20,0.00
    I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,2.92,0.00,50.25,6.43,0.00,0.00,9.53,0.00,30.75,0.12
    I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,2.73,0.00,47.99,6.22,0.00,0.00,12.46,0.88,29.57,0.14
    I10502_Sardinia_BA_Anulù_Seui,0.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,72.27,2.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.67,20.43,0.00
    I10552_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.48,0.17,72.12,6.36,0.00,0.00,7.01,0.00,10.86,0.00
    I10553_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.30,0.00,68.13,7.19,0.00,0.00,8.46,0.00,12.92,0.00
    I10554_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,4.12,0.31,68.87,5.38,0.00,0.00,7.21,0.00,14.03,0.07
    I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,4.78,0.00,48.03,9.39,0.00,0.00,10.84,0.47,26.48,0.00
    I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,5.49,1.21,1.46,0.38,38.60,32.29,1.45,0.00,2.98,0.00,16.12,0.00
    I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi,5.54,0.00,7.01,0.00,30.98,6.58,0.00,1.79,14.89,0.00,33.21,0.00
    I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi,10.18,0.00,4.46,0.00,37.70,19.25,0.00,0.00,10.22,0.00,17.70,0.49
    I12223_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi,5.67,0.00,0.00,0.00,26.52,0.00,0.37,0.00,21.57,3.33,42.54,0.00
    I14675_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.00,5.36,0.00,68.28,6.12,0.00,0.00,7.09,0.21,12.94,0.00
    I14676_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.24,3.54,0.00,66.24,8.99,0.00,0.17,7.19,0.00,13.63,0.00
    I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.00,5.27,0.00,67.70,0.32,0.00,0.00,8.51,0.00,18.14,0.07
    I14678_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles,0.00,0.00,5.42,0.00,65.33,3.69,0.00,0.00,10.05,0.10,15.42,0.00
    I15939_Sardinia_BA_contam_Anghelu_Ruju,3.90,1.87,8.93,0.00,58.18,4.83,0.00,0.00,5.92,0.00,15.72,0.64
    I15940_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,36.31,0.00,19.57,0.00,0.00,14.31,18.39,0.00,6.03,5.38
    I15941_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.21,0.00,70.81,4.26,0.00,0.00,5.21,0.04,15.38,0.07
    I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.99,0.00,68.81,2.54,0.00,0.00,6.79,0.29,18.46,0.12
    I15943_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.74,1.78,74.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,7.78,0.00,11.15,0.00
    I15944_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.41,2.35,68.78,3.47,0.00,0.00,6.44,0.00,14.56,0.00
    I15945_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,7.16,0.00,67.26,3.63,0.00,0.00,6.47,0.00,14.89,0.59
    I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.06,0.00,68.31,4.12,0.00,0.00,10.81,0.62,12.07,0.00
    I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,1.48,2.63,58.73,2.73,0.00,0.63,6.27,0.00,27.50,0.03
    I16161_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.78,0.61,67.91,6.44,0.00,0.00,6.99,0.00,13.26,0.00
    I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.72,0.00,0.77,1.26,51.57,15.82,0.00,0.00,10.24,0.00,19.61,0.00
    I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu,0.00,0.00,0.53,0.00,65.94,6.69,0.00,0.00,8.46,0.06,18.32,0.00
    I16165_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu,0.00,0.00,5.16,1.50,68.05,3.72,0.00,0.00,8.52,0.00,13.06,0.00
    I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu,0.00,0.00,2.29,0.00,62.86,8.55,0.00,0.00,8.30,0.00,18.01,0.00
    I16168_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,3.37,0.00,68.14,2.95,0.00,0.00,9.45,0.00,15.79,0.31
    I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,4.43,0.00,67.80,4.25,0.00,0.00,5.88,0.00,17.64,0.00
    I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.85,0.82,66.53,6.22,0.00,0.04,7.19,0.00,16.02,0.34
    I16183_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.30,0.73,65.78,5.96,0.00,0.00,13.06,0.00,12.16,0.00
    I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,5.09,0.00,57.77,4.27,0.00,0.00,9.57,0.33,22.98,0.00
    I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,4.39,0.02,48.74,11.73,0.00,0.00,9.86,0.00,25.27,0.00
    I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.49,3.79,0.00,49.27,15.29,0.00,0.00,7.27,0.12,23.76,0.00
    I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,3.57,0.00,46.58,5.20,0.02,0.00,11.20,0.00,33.40,0.02
    I3315_Menorca_LBA_Naveta_des_Tudons_Menorca_Spain,3.14,0.00,3.07,0.00,54.78,26.97,0.00,0.00,2.43,0.74,8.56,0.30
    I3642_Sardinia_BA_Alghero,0.00,0.00,5.36,0.00,68.76,4.57,0.00,0.00,8.72,0.00,12.59,0.00
    I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.53,0.25,67.43,5.84,0.00,0.00,6.25,0.00,16.61,0.09
    I3743_Sardinia_BA_Seulo,0.00,0.00,4.75,0.00,67.34,6.57,0.00,0.00,8.71,0.00,12.63,0.00
    I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.44,0.00,3.32,0.45,45.73,8.05,0.00,0.00,8.38,0.00,33.09,0.54
    I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,4.85,0.00,47.71,6.41,0.00,0.00,11.13,0.83,28.97,0.11
    I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.28,0.00,53.85,2.15,0.00,0.00,12.51,0.00,28.21,0.00
    I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.71,0.00,57.80,3.16,0.00,0.00,11.58,0.00,23.71,0.03
    I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.45,0.00,55.87,1.16,0.00,0.06,13.36,0.00,26.02,0.07
    I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,4.61,0.00,52.59,8.80,0.00,0.23,9.64,0.00,24.13,0.00
    I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,3.84,0.00,47.80,4.53,0.00,0.00,12.50,0.00,31.33,0.00
    I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain,7.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,53.12,23.11,1.24,1.69,0.00,1.52,10.73,0.65
    I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno,0.00,0.00,7.22,0.00,23.35,7.04,0.00,0.00,28.59,0.68,33.11,0.00
    I4420_all_Formentera_MBA_Formentera_Spain,3.80,0.00,5.00,1.21,55.42,21.66,1.49,0.00,2.20,0.00,8.82,0.41
    I4936_n/a,6.77,0.00,1.24,0.00,58.39,0.00,0.00,3.46,0.00,0.00,30.15,0.00
    I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.17,54.27,4.45,0.00,0.00,14.42,0.00,26.01,0.00
    I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,2.20,1.13,0.00,40.25,3.45,0.00,0.00,8.82,0.00,44.16,0.00
    I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,1.14,0.00,4.99,2.71,43.75,15.60,0.00,0.00,13.10,0.00,18.70,0.00
    I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,3.49,5.84,0.00,53.55,3.73,0.00,0.00,16.77,0.00,16.63,0.00
    I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,0.00,3.85,0.00,47.37,9.30,0.00,0.00,14.36,0.00,25.12,0.00
    I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello,0.58,0.25,2.77,0.00,50.01,21.56,1.15,0.00,6.79,0.37,16.50,0.00


    thanks jovialis

    mine

    Distance to: adam
    11.99859158 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    18.98957609 I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus
    19.71100454 I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno
    20.46318157 I12223_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    21.77672152 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    25.03886579 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    25.04684611 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    26.27231813 I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    26.43045781 I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    27.21770380 I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    27.40627848 I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    27.47976528 I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    27.58879301 I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    27.74392186 I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    28.17842969 I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    29.37907929 I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    29.59400615 I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    30.58515163 I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    30.95118091 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    32.38579936 I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    32.55123807 I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
    33.77990823 I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
    34.28175608 I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    34.48345690 I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    36.79455259 I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna

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    www.dnagenics.com - Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia [source data provided by Eupedia Team] - My results:


    nMonte Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
    v1.1 04/02/2020


    Finished reading population data. 952 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Distance: 3,05


    29,40% Roman-SoldierFN_2
    26,80% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
    18,20% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    12,80% I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
    07,00% I3810_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr2
    03,60% Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge
    01,20% RISE596_Velika_Gruda_Montenegro
    01,00% I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain





    Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
    v1.5 07/02/2020


    Finished reading population data. 952 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Mixed Mode:
    1 88,67% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892 + 11,33% I3810_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr2 @ 2,288
    2 59,77% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 40,23% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 2,989
    3 54,30% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 45,70% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,079
    4 62,11% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 37,89% I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,123
    5 87,89% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892 + 12,11% I7427_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr @ 3,152
    6 51,17% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 + 48,83% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,323
    7 51,17% VasconicTribe_I8209 + 48,83% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,323
    8 50,39% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 49,61% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,344
    9 50,39% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 49,61% VasconicTribe_I8209 @ 3,344
    10 50,39% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE + 49,61% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,359

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892 @ 6,297
    2 100% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895 @ 7,044
    3 100% EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585 @ 7,109
    4 100% I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 7,449
    5 100% I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 7,658
    6 100% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 @ 7,717
    7 100% MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649 @ 7,936
    8 100% R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna @ 7,985
    9 100% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852 @ 8,043
    10 100% Roman-SoldierFN_2 @ 8,202

    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 50% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,321
    2 50% VasconicTribe_I8209 + 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,335
    3 50% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 + 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,335
    4 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE + 50% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,357
    5 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 50% VisigothIberianGirona_I12034 @ 3,661
    6 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 50% VasconesTribeVasconia_I3759 @ 3,704
    7 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE + 50% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,822
    8 50% VasconicTribe_I8209 + 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 3,863
    9 50% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 + 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 3,863
    10 50% I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy + 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,874

    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,460
    2 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% RISE61_Kyndelose_Denmark_4071_years @ 3,672
    3 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,673
    4 33% CrusaderKnightTuscanLebanonCrusaderSI41 + 33% CrusaderKnightTuscanLebanonCrusaderSI41 + 33% Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge @ 3,724
    5 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% CL92 @ 3,744
    6 33% CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457 + 33% CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457 + 33% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,746
    7 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655 @ 3,819
    8 33% I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE + 33% I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE + 33% NorthAlpineBronzeAgeFrench_AITI_119 @ 3,841
    9 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% IronAgeHinxton1_Celt_ERS389795 @ 3,857
    10 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1 @ 3,867

    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1 @ 3,757
    2 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% JK2065_Levänluhta_B_Isokyrö_Finland_300–800_CE @ 3,843
    3 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% MX257_Switzerland_LN @ 3,892
    4 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge @ 3,903
    5 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years @ 3,926
    6 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I0804_EUL57_Unetice_EBA_Eulau_Germany_2131-1982_calBCE @ 3,938
    7 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% NorthAlpineSouthDutch_AITI_50 @ 3,949
    8 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% SZ2 @ 4,004
    9 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% MX280_Switzerland_LN @ 4,009
    10 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% CrusaderKnightCelto-GermanicLebanonCrusaderSI47 @ 4,028

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    Here is mine:



    Finished reading population data. 952 populations found.
    12 components mode.


    --------------------------------




    Mixed Mode:
    1 55.08% R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS + 44.92% RISE479_Erd_4_Hungary_~2000_years @ 1.730
    2 76.17% I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Pelopo nnese + 23.83% I4112_Ukraine_Neolithic @ 1.759
    3 62.89% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 37.11% R43_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 1.908
    4 63.67% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 36.33% R78_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis @ 1.989
    5 62.11% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 37.89% I1584_Barcın_Höyük_Chalcolithic @ 2.022
    6 57.42% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 42.58% R39_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.035
    7 62.89% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis + 37.11% I1875_WHG @ 2.154
    8 62.89% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis + 37.11% I1875_WHG @ 2.154
    9 62.11% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 37.89% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.211
    10 53.52% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 46.48% R69_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.213


    Least-squares method.


    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% SZ37 @ 5.067
    2 100% scy305_Scythian @ 6.705
    3 100% SZ1 @ 7.004
    4 100% SZ31 @ 7.346
    5 100% SZ36 @ 7.923
    6 100% R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro @ 8.178
    7 100% SZ43 @ 8.912
    8 100% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge @ 9.417
    9 100% R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto @ 9.490
    10 100% CL36 @ 9.689


    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R69_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.636
    2 50% R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 2.735
    3 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce @ 2.914
    4 50% scy009_Scythian + 50% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.954
    5 50% R850_Iron_Age_Ardea + 50% MX304_Switzerland_LN @ 2.975
    6 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis @ 2.998
    7 50% R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 3.217
    8 50% R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 3.320
    9 50% R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 3.369
    10 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto @ 3.372


    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.303
    2 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% R78_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis @ 2.527
    3 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% R43_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.660
    4 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% I2683_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta @ 2.669
    5 33% RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years + 33% I0698_Balkans_Neolithic + 33% Continenza_Mesolithic_Italy @ 2.754
    6 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I2534_Romania_HG @ 2.784
    7 33% RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years + 33% I0698_Balkans_Neolithic + 33% RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years @ 2.795
    8 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0015_Molta6_Motala_HG_Molata_Sweden_5898-5531_calBCE @ 2.797
    9 33% BR2_Hungary_1180BC + 33% BR2_Hungary_1180BC + 33% R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.803
    10 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I4437_Latvia_MN @ 2.907


    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete + 25% I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete + 25% IronAgeHinxton1_Celt_ERS389795 + 25% RISE145_Polwica_Poland_3677_years @ 2.379
    2 25% SZ37 + 25% SZ37 + 25% SZ37 + 25% SZ20 @ 2.631
    3 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R78_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis @ 2.775
    4 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R39_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.836
    5 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R850_Iron_Age_Ardea @ 2.893
    6 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.928
    7 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R128_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce @ 2.930
    8 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R34_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto @ 2.934
    9 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R41_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.994
    10 25% R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 25% R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 25% R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 25% RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years @ 3.011








    Anyone able to interpret my results is welcome to do so. Would earn my apreciation.

    Does anyone happen to know where the samples SZ1, SZ31, SZ36, SZ37 come from? ... The calculator puts me close to SZ37, but on the PCA I almost overlap with SZ1.

    Very interesting and worthwhile calculator... Well done Eupedia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Here is mine:



    Finished reading population data. 952 populations found.
    12 components mode.


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    Mixed Mode:
    1 55.08% R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS + 44.92% RISE479_Erd_4_Hungary_~2000_years @ 1.730
    2 76.17% I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Pelopo nnese + 23.83% I4112_Ukraine_Neolithic @ 1.759
    3 62.89% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 37.11% R43_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 1.908
    4 63.67% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 36.33% R78_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis @ 1.989
    5 62.11% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 37.89% I1584_Barcın_Höyük_Chalcolithic @ 2.022
    6 57.42% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 42.58% R39_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.035
    7 62.89% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis + 37.11% I1875_WHG @ 2.154
    8 62.89% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis + 37.11% I1875_WHG @ 2.154
    9 62.11% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 37.89% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.211
    10 53.52% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 46.48% R69_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.213


    Least-squares method.


    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% SZ37 @ 5.067
    2 100% scy305_Scythian @ 6.705
    3 100% SZ1 @ 7.004
    4 100% SZ31 @ 7.346
    5 100% SZ36 @ 7.923
    6 100% R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro @ 8.178
    7 100% SZ43 @ 8.912
    8 100% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge @ 9.417
    9 100% R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto @ 9.490
    10 100% CL36 @ 9.689


    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R69_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.636
    2 50% R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 2.735
    3 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce @ 2.914
    4 50% scy009_Scythian + 50% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.954
    5 50% R850_Iron_Age_Ardea + 50% MX304_Switzerland_LN @ 2.975
    6 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis @ 2.998
    7 50% R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 3.217
    8 50% R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 3.320
    9 50% R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN @ 3.369
    10 50% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 50% R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto @ 3.372


    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.303
    2 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% R78_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis @ 2.527
    3 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% R43_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.660
    4 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% MX265_Switzerland_LN + 33% I2683_Bronze_Age_Anatolian_Harmanӧren-GӧndürleHӧyük_Isparta @ 2.669
    5 33% RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years + 33% I0698_Balkans_Neolithic + 33% Continenza_Mesolithic_Italy @ 2.754
    6 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I2534_Romania_HG @ 2.784
    7 33% RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years + 33% I0698_Balkans_Neolithic + 33% RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years @ 2.795
    8 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0015_Molta6_Motala_HG_Molata_Sweden_5898-5531_calBCE @ 2.797
    9 33% BR2_Hungary_1180BC + 33% BR2_Hungary_1180BC + 33% R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS @ 2.803
    10 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I0679_Krepost_Neolithic + 33% I4437_Latvia_MN @ 2.907


    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete + 25% I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_La sithi_Crete + 25% IronAgeHinxton1_Celt_ERS389795 + 25% RISE145_Polwica_Poland_3677_years @ 2.379
    2 25% SZ37 + 25% SZ37 + 25% SZ37 + 25% SZ20 @ 2.631
    3 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R78_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis @ 2.775
    4 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R39_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.836
    5 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R850_Iron_Age_Ardea @ 2.893
    6 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R44_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.928
    7 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R128_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce @ 2.930
    8 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R34_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto @ 2.934
    9 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge + 25% R41_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis @ 2.994
    10 25% R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 25% R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 25% R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna + 25% RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years @ 3.011








    Anyone able to interpret my results is welcome to do so. Would earn my apreciation.

    Does anyone happen to know where the samples SZ1, SZ31, SZ36, SZ37 come from? ... The calculator puts me close to SZ37, but on the PCA I almost overlap with SZ1.

    Very interesting and worthwhile calculator... Well done Eupedia.
    @Archetype0ne


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    Thank you Duarte. Your contribution is always forthcoming and welcome :).

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    Thank you Duarte. Your contribution is always forthcoming and welcome :).
    Thanks

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    @Archetype,

    Except for SZ1, those are all local Pannonians (today's Hungary) who were buried in the same cemetery as invading Langobards, and oppressed by them. That was an area which held on to its "Romanized" identity for much longer than other areas in Central Europe, still speaking a Romance language. Whether some of these people had fled there from other parts of the "Roman" world, or that was the composition still when the Langobards arrived during the invasions is unknown. Oh, later the Byzantines recaptured it.

    Unfortunately, for clarity's sake, the authors used only the 1000 genomes modern samples for comparison, so the only "Southern European" element they had was the Tuscans, TSI, from what I remember, so a bit north of Florence, supposedly.

    SZ1 is actually a Bronze Age sample.

    This is how they plot: you can see why SZ37 makes sense for you.
    Apologies if these were things you already knew.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    @Archetype,

    Except for SZ1, those are all local Pannonians (today's Hungary) who were buried in the same cemetery as invading Langobards, and oppressed by them. That was an area which held on to its "Romanized" identity for much longer than other areas in Central Europe, still speaking a Romance language. Whether some of these people had fled there from other parts of the "Roman" world, or that was the composition still when the Langobards arrived during the invasions is unknown. Oh, later the Byzantines recaptured it.

    Unfortunately, for clarity's sake, the authors used only the 1000 genomes modern samples for comparison, so the only "Southern European" element they had was the Tuscans, TSI, from what I remember, so a bit north of Florence, supposedly.

    SZ1 is actually a Bronze Age sample.

    This is how they plot: you can see why SZ37 makes sense for you.
    Apologies if these were things you already knew.
    Very informative analysis Angela, thank you. Yes it does make a lot of sense, along with my affinity with SZ31, SZ36 and SZ37. Also SZ1 and SZ37 overlap in that PCA as well which now makes more sense. Since the calculator puts me closer to SZ37, yet on the PCA I overlap with SZ1.

    I wonder if my results would change drastically with the inclusion of more Southern European samples in this calculator, since my pie chart makes me look more Atlantic and North European due to it missing a Southern Europe reference.




    Do you happen to know what the legend for this image means?

    TSI, IBS, CEU +GBR? That seems the composition of the samples I am closest too. On FTDNA map I am a 90% South European with a 10% GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Very informative analysis Angela, thank you. Yes it does make a lot of sense, along with my affinity with SZ31, SZ36 and SZ37. Also SZ1 and SZ37 overlap in that PCA as well which now makes more sense. Since the calculator puts me closer to SZ37, yet on the PCA I overlap with SZ1.

    I wonder if my results would change drastically with the inclusion of more Southern European samples in this calculator, since my pie chart makes me look more Atlantic and North European due to it missing a Southern Europe reference.




    Do you happen to know what the legend for this image means?

    TSI, IBS, CEU +GBR? That seems the composition of the samples I am closest too. On FTDNA map I am a 90% South European with a 10% GB.
    You can see what the colors stand for to the right of the Collegno samples (Langobard cemetery in Piemonte, Northern Italy).

    That's what's wrong with a lot of calculators: not enough Southern European samples, and for some calculators, too many Eastern European samples. That's why I was so eager for so long to have a calculator for ancient samples using Dodecad. He always was interested in capturing Southern European variation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Very informative analysis Angela, thank you. Yes it does make a lot of sense, along with my affinity with SZ31, SZ36 and SZ37. Also SZ1 and SZ37 overlap in that PCA as well which now makes more sense. Since the calculator puts me closer to SZ37, yet on the PCA I overlap with SZ1.

    I wonder if my results would change drastically with the inclusion of more Southern European samples in this calculator, since my pie chart makes me look more Atlantic and North European due to it missing a Southern Europe reference.




    Do you happen to know what the legend for this image means?

    TSI, IBS, CEU +GBR? That seems the composition of the samples I am closest too. On FTDNA map I am a 90% South European with a 10% GB.
    Answer**:

    There are 26 different populations which are part of our study from many different locations around the globe. The following table lists these populations and indicates what data we currently have available for them.
    Population Code Population Description Super Population Code Sequence Data Available Alignment Data Available Variant Data Available
    CHB Han Chinese in Beijing, China EAS 1 1 1
    JPT Japanese in Tokyo, Japan EAS 1 1 1
    CHS Southern Han Chinese EAS 1 1 1
    CDX Chinese Dai in Xishuangbanna, China EAS 1 1 1
    KHV Kinh in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam EAS 1 1 1
    CEU Utah Residents (CEPH) with Northern and Western European Ancestry EUR 1 1 1
    TSI Toscani in Italia EUR 1 1 1
    FIN Finnish in Finland EUR 1 1 1
    GBR British in England and Scotland EUR 1 1 1
    IBS Iberian Population in Spain EUR 1 1 1
    YRI Yoruba in Ibadan, Nigeria AFR 1 1 1
    LWK Luhya in Webuye, Kenya AFR 1 1 1
    GWD Gambian in Western Divisions in the Gambia AFR 1 1 1
    MSL Mende in Sierra Leone AFR 1 1 1
    ESN Esan in Nigeria AFR 1 1 1
    ASW Americans of African Ancestry in SW USA AFR 1 1 1
    ACB African Caribbeans in Barbados AFR 1 1 1
    MXL Mexican Ancestry from Los Angeles USA AMR 1 1 1
    PUR Puerto Ricans from Puerto Rico AMR 1 1 1
    CLM Colombians from Medellin, Colombia AMR 1 1 1
    PEL Peruvians from Lima, Peru AMR 1 1 1
    GIH Gujarati Indian from Houston, Texas SAS 1 1 1
    PJL Punjabi from Lahore, Pakistan SAS 1 1 1
    BEB Bengali from Bangladesh SAS 1 1 1
    STU Sri Lankan Tamil from the UK SAS 1 1 1
    ITU Indian Telugu from the UK SAS 1 1 1
    These populations have been divided into 5 super populations

    • AFR, African
    • AMR, Ad Mixed American
    • EAS, East Asian
    • EUR, European
    • SAS, South Asian

    When the code ALL is used this means that all individuals from that release are being considered.

    **PS: These populations’ code was obtained from another study. It’s just to you know the populations codes adopted in 1000 genomes.

    https://www.internationalgenome.org/...ry/population/

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    I don't remember doing dna genics, but on the Dodecad K12, I'm at a distance of 6 and 7 to Szoland and Collegno 36. That's decent for such ancient samples. I ignore Armenoi Crete because Lazaridis says it wasn't an optimal sample. I just wish we had a lot of Bronze Age samples from northern Italy and Toscana.

    Distance to: Angela
    5.96067110 I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
    5.96285167 I8475_NE_Iberia_RomP_atypical
    6.06036303 I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
    6.16793320 R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.20598904 R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    6.36315173 Szolad43
    6.86379633 I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
    6.88215809 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    6.99657773 I2176_Balkans_BronzeAge
    7.16551464 I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
    7.41494437 I2175_Balkans_BronzeAge
    7.68900514 Collegno36
    8.27433985 scy197_Scythian
    8.38781259 Szolad28
    8.75370207 Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.83698478 scy192_Scythian
    8.85352472 Bul10_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.99296392 Szolad31
    9.00708055 Collegno23
    9.01179227 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.10498215 R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima
    9.23041169 I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
    9.25520934 R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.40529638 R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    9.43736722 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto

    I'm much closer on mytrueancestry, but I trust them less.

    1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.568 - SZ43 -
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    2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.975 - CL36 - ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Answer**:

    There are 26 different populations which are part of our study from many different locations around the globe. The following table lists these populations and indicates what data we currently have available for them.
    Population Code Population Description Super Population Code Sequence Data Available Alignment Data Available Variant Data Available
    CHB Han Chinese in Beijing, China EAS 1 1 1
    JPT Japanese in Tokyo, Japan EAS 1 1 1
    CHS Southern Han Chinese EAS 1 1 1
    CDX Chinese Dai in Xishuangbanna, China EAS 1 1 1
    KHV Kinh in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam EAS 1 1 1
    CEU Utah Residents (CEPH) with Northern and Western European Ancestry EUR 1 1 1
    TSI Toscani in Italia EUR 1 1 1
    FIN Finnish in Finland EUR 1 1 1
    GBR British in England and Scotland EUR 1 1 1
    IBS Iberian Population in Spain EUR 1 1 1
    YRI Yoruba in Ibadan, Nigeria AFR 1 1 1
    LWK Luhya in Webuye, Kenya AFR 1 1 1
    GWD Gambian in Western Divisions in the Gambia AFR 1 1 1
    MSL Mende in Sierra Leone AFR 1 1 1
    ESN Esan in Nigeria AFR 1 1 1
    ASW Americans of African Ancestry in SW USA AFR 1 1 1
    ACB African Caribbeans in Barbados AFR 1 1 1
    MXL Mexican Ancestry from Los Angeles USA AMR 1 1 1
    PUR Puerto Ricans from Puerto Rico AMR 1 1 1
    CLM Colombians from Medellin, Colombia AMR 1 1 1
    PEL Peruvians from Lima, Peru AMR 1 1 1
    GIH Gujarati Indian from Houston, Texas SAS 1 1 1
    PJL Punjabi from Lahore, Pakistan SAS 1 1 1
    BEB Bengali from Bangladesh SAS 1 1 1
    STU Sri Lankan Tamil from the UK SAS 1 1 1
    ITU Indian Telugu from the UK SAS 1 1 1
    These populations have been divided into 5 super populations

    • AFR, African
    • AMR, Ad Mixed American
    • EAS, East Asian
    • EUR, European
    • SAS, South Asian

    When the code ALL is used this means that all individuals from that release are being considered.

    **PS: These populations’ code was obtained from another study. It’s just to you know the populations codes adopted in 1000 genomes.

    https://www.internationalgenome.org/...ry/population/


    you will notice that in the lombard samples, to get german and swedish mix they have combined CEU+GBR ( the blue bars ) ............they do a lot of combinations to get results in other papers , other I know is to get balkan lands they combine TSI+IBS ..................there is no marker in-between TSI ( tuscany ) and India

    other one I have seen to get alpine europe they combine CEU+TSI
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4p
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    www.dnagenics.com - Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia [source data provided by Eupedia Team] - My results:


    nMonte Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
    v1.1 04/02/2020


    Finished reading population data. 952 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Distance: 3,05


    29,40% Roman-SoldierFN_2
    26,80% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
    18,20% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    12,80% I3574_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
    07,00% I3810_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr2
    03,60% Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge
    01,20% RISE596_Velika_Gruda_Montenegro
    01,00% I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain





    Oracle Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
    v1.5 07/02/2020


    Finished reading population data. 952 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Mixed Mode:
    1 88,67% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892 + 11,33% I3810_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr2 @ 2,288
    2 59,77% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 40,23% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 2,989
    3 54,30% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 45,70% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,079
    4 62,11% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 37,89% I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,123
    5 87,89% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892 + 12,11% I7427_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE_Afr @ 3,152
    6 51,17% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 + 48,83% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,323
    7 51,17% VasconicTribe_I8209 + 48,83% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,323
    8 50,39% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 49,61% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,344
    9 50,39% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 49,61% VasconicTribe_I8209 @ 3,344
    10 50,39% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE + 49,61% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,359

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892 @ 6,297
    2 100% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895 @ 7,044
    3 100% EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585 @ 7,109
    4 100% I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 7,449
    5 100% I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 7,658
    6 100% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 @ 7,717
    7 100% MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649 @ 7,936
    8 100% R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna @ 7,985
    9 100% GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852 @ 8,043
    10 100% Roman-SoldierFN_2 @ 8,202

    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 50% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,321
    2 50% VasconicTribe_I8209 + 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,335
    3 50% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 + 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,335
    4 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE + 50% Pre-RomanGirona_I3324 @ 3,357
    5 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 50% VisigothIberianGirona_I12034 @ 3,661
    6 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 50% VasconesTribeVasconia_I3759 @ 3,704
    7 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE + 50% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,822
    8 50% VasconicTribe_I8209 + 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 3,863
    9 50% I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 + 50% I8146_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE @ 3,863
    10 50% I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy + 50% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 @ 3,874

    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,460
    2 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% RISE61_Kyndelose_Denmark_4071_years @ 3,672
    3 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,673
    4 33% CrusaderKnightTuscanLebanonCrusaderSI41 + 33% CrusaderKnightTuscanLebanonCrusaderSI41 + 33% Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge @ 3,724
    5 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% CL92 @ 3,744
    6 33% CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457 + 33% CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457 + 33% I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 @ 3,746
    7 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655 @ 3,819
    8 33% I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE + 33% I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE + 33% NorthAlpineBronzeAgeFrench_AITI_119 @ 3,841
    9 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 33% IronAgeHinxton1_Celt_ERS389795 @ 3,857
    10 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% MoriscoConvertAndalusia_I7425 + 33% I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1 @ 3,867

    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1 @ 3,757
    2 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% JK2065_Levänluhta_B_Isokyrö_Finland_300–800_CE @ 3,843
    3 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% MX257_Switzerland_LN @ 3,892
    4 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% Bul8_Balkans_BronzeAge @ 3,903
    5 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years @ 3,926
    6 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I0804_EUL57_Unetice_EBA_Eulau_Germany_2131-1982_calBCE @ 3,938
    7 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% NorthAlpineSouthDutch_AITI_50 @ 3,949
    8 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% I3578_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE + 25% SZ2 @ 4,004
    9 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% MX280_Switzerland_LN @ 4,009
    10 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981 + 25% CrusaderKnightCelto-GermanicLebanonCrusaderSI47 @ 4,028
    Comparison Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Ancient X dnagenics Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia. Same results (1 populations approximation), observing that the nMonte dnagenics calculator provides a distance of 3.05 against a distance of 1.22 calculated in Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Ancient, both displaying 8 populations in admixture, but with some changes in samples and percentages.

    Distance to: Duarte
    6.29661020 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
    7.04433105 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
    7.10911387 EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
    7.44879185 I12516_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    7.65793053 I12514_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    7.71679338 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
    7.93623966 MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
    7.98459141 R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.04299695 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
    8.20189003 Roman-SoldierFN_2
    8.46322043 I3982_SE_Iberia_c.3-4CE
    8.60645107 CrusaderKnightFrenchLebanonCrusaderSI40
    9.03262420 I7675_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
    9.06797662 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.06809793 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
    9.11247497 R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    9.35114966 I2215_Malak_Preslavets
    9.61505590 CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
    9.69586510 I7673_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
    9.70581269 I12515_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    9.70581269 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
    9.71447374 R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
    9.81952137 France_BA_NIED
    9.91529626 I3584_SE_Iberia_c.5-8CE
    10.15667268 I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE


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    This is me. I'm somewhat new to these calculators and since I can see that many users here have a much firmer grasp of this subject, I would appreciate if someone explained what this exactly indicates (I mean besides the obvious that the top result is closest to me). What does the "SINGLE" tab in the calculator do? And why is it different each time you run it?


    4.23374539 I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge
    4.94559400 SZ27
    5.62698854 CL49
    6.11537407 CL57
    6.54112376 I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
    7.02089738 R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.12174136 CL47
    7.22744768 SZ18
    7.23921266 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    7.29747217 SZ45
    7.65648745 R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    7.77192383 R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.83012133 I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
    7.93891050 I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.14950305 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    8.32777281 I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.92338501 CL63
    9.07053471 R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.09441037 SZ5
    9.09947251 CL102
    9.26008639 CL53
    9.32374388 SZ6
    9.48595804 I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
    9.61204453 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    9.74028234 SZ1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shargan View Post
    This is me. I'm somewhat new to these calculators and since I can see that many users here have a much firmer grasp of this subject, I would appreciate if someone explained what this exactly indicates (I mean besides the obvious that the top result is closest to me). What does the "SINGLE" tab in the calculator do? And why is it different each time you run it?


    4.23374539 I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge
    4.94559400 SZ27
    5.62698854 CL49
    6.11537407 CL57
    6.54112376 I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
    7.02089738 R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.12174136 CL47
    7.22744768 SZ18
    7.23921266 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    7.29747217 SZ45
    7.65648745 R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    7.77192383 R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.83012133 I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES
    7.93891050 I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.14950305 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    8.32777281 I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
    8.92338501 CL63
    9.07053471 R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    9.09441037 SZ5
    9.09947251 CL102
    9.26008639 CL53
    9.32374388 SZ6
    9.48595804 I6491_NE_Iberia_RomP
    9.61204453 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    9.74028234 SZ1
    You can go upthread not too far and see that the Szolad and Collegno samples to which you're closest are not the northern European ones or the more Southern Italian ones.

    Just eyeballing it, and if you were 100% of one ethnicity, I'd say Northern Italian, maybe Northeastern Italian or maybe far northern Greek?

    To get a real idea of what it's telling you a little more precisely, I've found that the tedious process of finding out the closest modern population for each sample gives me the best idea.

    So, for example, you first go to the Vahaduo Ancient spreadsheet for Dodecad K12b and look for each sample in the Sources tab and copy the coordinates for that sample.
    http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-...NT-vahaduo.htm

    You then go to the Dodecad K12b updated, which has as its Sources modern populations, and you paste those coordinates in the Target tab.
    http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm


    I've done the first one for you:
    Distance to: I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge
    4.71087041 Montenegrin
    5.49335053 Macedonian
    6.77047266 Serb
    6.87094288 Italy_FriuliVG
    7.54356680 R.Moldova_South
    8.10062961 Pomak
    9.14498223 Italy_Trentino
    9.19683098 Albanian_North
    9.27223584 Italy_Veneto
    9.42636727 R.Moldova_Gagauz
    9.68632025 Romanians
    9.86257066 Gagauz
    10.47836819 Albanian_Kosovo
    10.53486592 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    10.59325316 Swiss_Italian
    10.71695386 Bosnian
    10.93210273 Italy_Piedmont
    10.97254301 Croat
    11.01249291 Bulgarians
    11.14902686 Bulgarian
    11.80739203 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    12.26466061 Turk_Romania
    12.57357585 Italy_Lombardy
    13.31387442 Italy_Liguria
    13.52065457 Turk_Bulgaria

    It's saying this sample is closest to Montenegrins, Macedonians, Serbs in general similarity, then to Northern Italians. That would generally make sense since Northern Italians aren't that far from northern Balkanites.

    I don't know if that fits you in particular or not.

    If you leave the Single tab on Default, it's going to jam in every sample no matter how small the percentage, to get you the "best" fit possible. Not only can that leave you with many source populations and a lot of confusion, but I think those are "overfit". I usually go with .25 or .50.

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    Thanks for that, Angela.

    I suppose it makes some sense; my original top result on Dodecad K12b updated was always "Italy_FriuliVG", followed by Montenegrins, Macedonians, etc.

    4.46963712 Italy_FriuliVG
    5.93852675 Macedonian
    5.95136119 Montenegrin
    7.15351662 R.Moldova_South
    7.29853400 Italy_Veneto
    7.53074897 Italy_Trentino
    8.35703895 Albanian_North
    8.55065495 Serb
    8.64901150 Pomak
    8.73323995 Italy_Piedmont
    8.98389670 R.Moldova_Gagauz
    9.09536146 Albanian_Kosovo
    9.13456417 Swiss_Italian
    9.42106682 Gagauz
    10.56306653 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    10.59798743 Italy_Lombardy
    10.81648279 Turk_Romania
    11.04873748 Romanians
    11.20598930 Italy_Liguria
    11.35688932 Italy_Emilia
    12.21582785 Italy_Tuscany
    12.23865189 Bulgarian
    12.36862967 Bulgarians
    12.37991922 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    12.58368785 Turk_Greece



    And I've adjusted the Single tab to 0.25 on the Ancient calculator, and this is the result.

    Target: shargan
    Distance: 1.2970% / 1.29697198 | ADC: 0.25x

    36.4 I2165_Balkans_BronzeAge
    35.8 SZ27
    14.8 scy300_Scythian
    4.8 I12031_NE_Iberia_c.6CE_PL
    3.6 SZ6
    1.4 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
    1.0 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    1.0 I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
    0.8 SZ20
    0.4 scy305_Scythian

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    Think I did this right, my results.

    Distance to: DORQUEST
    3.42559484 R31_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    3.50228497 I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical
    3.76968168 Szolad12
    4.08591483 R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    4.19268410 I0111_ROT4_Bell_Beaker_LN_Rothenschirmbach_Germany _2497-2436_calBCE
    4.31625996 Szolad24
    4.40353267 Szolad38
    4.42071261 Szolad23
    4.42594623 SX23_Switzerland_LN
    4.66560821 Szolad42
    4.85206142 Szolad11
    4.90222399 R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    4.97485678 MX280_Switzerland_LN
    5.20840667 Szolad8
    5.28750414 I0117_ESP29_Unetice_EBA_Esperstedt_Germany_2199-2064_calBCE
    5.29326931 France_IA_ATT26
    5.45367766 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    5.60124093 RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    5.61733923 BellBeakerSouthernFrance_I3874
    5.75362494 NorthAlpineSouthDutch_AITI_2
    5.78140121 Szolad7
    5.83695983 CrusaderKnightCelto-GermanicLebanonCrusaderSI39
    6.01405853 Szolad30
    6.11655132 France_IA_COL11
    6.14072471 Szolad15


    Distance to: R31_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    4.13853839 English_North
    4.54630619 English_South
    4.55587533 English_mixed
    5.47582870 German
    5.71541775 Icelandic
    5.93676680 Mixed_NW_Euro
    6.03682036 Dutch
    6.70076115 Irish
    6.70536352 Irish
    7.14989510 Swedish
    9.43259773 Bavarian_German
    11.16286254 Slovenian
    11.57419112 French2
    12.15223436 French
    12.37867521 Slovak
    13.12018293 Hungarians
    13.29268596 Sorb_Lusatia
    14.82888061 PL_GreaterPoland
    14.92278459 Croat
    15.44470136 PL_Warmia-Masuria
    15.90021069 HUN_Szekely
    16.51893156 Bosnian
    17.39524935 MD_North
    17.60749556 Ukrainian
    17.97332746 Serb

    Target: DORQUEST
    Distance: 0.4201% / 0.42011686 | ADC: 0.25x


    54.0 I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical
    30.6 Szolad23
    6.2 Szolad3
    4.6 Szolad12
    3.2 Szolad8
    1.4 RISE559_Augsburg_Germany

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    Ancient Swiss samples.

    Distance to: DORQUEST
    4.42594623 SX23_Switzerland_LN
    4.97485678 MX280_Switzerland_LN
    7.05428239 MX279_Switzerland_LN
    7.38958727 MX304_Switzerland_LN
    8.01867820 MX288_Switzerland_LN
    8.28762934 MX190_Switzerland_LN
    8.52396621 MX259_Switzerland_LN
    8.97245786 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
    9.15449616 MX188_Switzerland_LN
    9.67893073 MX254_Switzerland_LN
    9.82143065 MX257_Switzerland_LN
    10.52936370 MX270_Switzerland_LN
    10.80575310 MX258_Switzerland_LN
    10.84865429 SX32_Switzerland_LN
    11.18996425 MX265_Switzerland_LN
    11.68733930 MX252_Switzerland_LN
    11.73660939 MX251_Switzerland_LN
    11.82088406 MX192_Switzerland_LN
    12.11838273 MX286_Switzerland_LN
    12.78917120 MX189_Switzerland_LN
    13.14804928 MX195_Switzerland_LN
    13.43961309 MX191_Switzerland_LN
    13.52788971 MX283_Switzerland_LN
    13.57620713 MX199_Switzerland_LN
    13.93689348 MX277_Switzerland_LN



    Distance to: SX23_Switzerland_LN
    4.82215719 English_South
    4.89636600 Bavarian_German
    5.35476423 English_mixed
    6.24699928 English_North
    7.12444384 Mixed_NW_Euro
    8.37749963 Irish
    8.47470353 French2
    8.51086365 Irish
    8.61473737 Dutch
    8.90467855 French
    9.25185387 German
    9.71429359 Icelandic
    11.36341498 Slovenian
    12.11494532 Swedish
    13.34653513 HUN_Szekely
    13.42167132 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    13.78326522 Croat
    14.16508736 Hungarians
    14.62170647 Slovak
    15.14092467 Bosnian
    15.29650418 Italy_Trentino
    15.34014993 Serb
    15.99736853 MD_North
    16.47937802 Spanish_Baleares
    16.71463468 Swiss_Italian



    Target: DORQUEST
    Distance: 2.1808% / 2.18077124


    57.6 MX288_Switzerland_LN
    15.0 MX310_Switzerland_LN
    12.6 MX190_Switzerland_LN
    11.2 MX304_Switzerland_LN
    1.8 Aesch25_Switzerland_LN
    1.8 MX189_Switzerland_LN

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V22/YF66572
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1c5c1

    Country: Spain



    My work is accumulating, you could have warned me


    Distance to: Carlos
    9.77182173 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    10.03350886 I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
    11.54324911 I3315_Menorca_LBA_Naveta_des_Tudons_Menorca_Spain
    11.77753370 I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain
    12.83230299 I4420_all_Formentera_MBA_Formentera_Spain
    14.15352606 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    16.41629069 I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    16.95522928 I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
    17.19723234 I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II


    Distance to: Carlos
    7.89062735 MX277_Switzerland_LN
    8.04989441 MX299_Switzerland_LN
    8.28251170 SX20_Switzerland_LN
    8.80555506 SX18_Switzerland_LN
    10.06155058 MX283_Switzerland_LN
    11.56311377 MX286_Switzerland_LN
    11.84286283 MX256_Switzerland_LN
    12.59293056 MX254_Switzerland_LN
    13.82450722 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
    14.04436186 MX298_Switzerland_LN
    15.77877055 MX288_Switzerland_LN
    16.22367098 MX275_Switzerland_LN
    16.99146550 MX257_Switzerland_LN
    17.01640679 MX270_Switzerland_LN
    17.31673468 MX258_Switzerland_LN
    17.34922765 MX252_Switzerland_LN
    17.41192695 SX23_Switzerland_LN
    17.55614992 MX259_Switzerland_LN
    18.16310546 MX251_Switzerland_LN
    18.56330789 MX280_Switzerland_LN
    18.67291889 MX279_Switzerland_LN


    Distance to: Carlos
    20.18082506 scy192_Scythian
    20.50462875 scy311_Scythian
    20.67975097 scy304_Scythian
    20.78736395 scy300_Scythian
    21.50676405 scy197_Scythian

    Distance to: Carlos
    8.97456406 RISE254_Szazhalombatta-Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years
    9.85490233 RISE471_Untermeitingen_Germany
    11.06660291 RISE349_Battonya_Voros_Oktober_Hungary_3588_years
    11.11920411 RISE247_Szazhalombatta-Foldvar_Hungary_3372_years
    12.06504041 RISE595_Velika_Gruda_Montenegro
    13.54567828 RISE559_Augsburg_Germany
    13.56254032 RISE480_Erd_4_Hungary
    14.06402858 RISE374_Szoreg-C_Sziv_Utca_Hungary_3402_years
    14.06543636 RISE373_Szoreg-C_Sziv_Utca_Hungary_3476_years
    15.99839367 RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary
    16.20334842 RISE564_Osterhofen-Altenmark_Germany
    19.29853103 RISE596_Velika_Gruda_Montenegro
    20.84111321 RISE210_Angamollan_Sweden_3105_years
    22.62739048 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    23.21874458 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years
    23.33675427 RISE486_Remedello_di_Sotto_Italy_3595_years
    23.53671600 RISE586_Moravska_Nova_Ves_Czech_Republic
    24.00593677 RISE560_Augsburg_Germany
    24.25228855 RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    24.33128233 RISE484_Erd_4_Hungary
    26.16644225 RISE61_Kyndelose_Denmark_4071_years

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Distance to: DORQUEST
    8.52849342 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    15.79129507 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    17.91743564 R1_Hungary_2080BC
    19.51239350 NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    37.63117723 KO1_Hungary_5710BC
    45.94535232 NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    46.04536242 NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    46.21876134 CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    48.32353360 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    49.15458168 NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    53.08189616 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    55.33223563 NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    55.79512524 NE5_Hungary_5120BC

    Distance to: BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    6.67682559 Bavarian_German
    9.77055781 Slovenian
    10.88460381 Croat
    11.65837896 HUN_Szekely
    11.88754811 Serb
    12.23653546 Bosnian
    12.24869789 English_South
    12.39104919 Hungarians
    12.58422028 German
    12.61246606 English_mixed
    13.14880620 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    13.17452086 English_North
    13.17455123 MD_North
    13.22641902 Italy_Trentino
    13.58376973 Montenegrin
    13.77661787 French2
    13.83621697 French
    14.36809660 MD_Center
    14.46242934 Swiss_Italian
    14.46478828 Mixed_NW_Euro
    14.50185161 Slovak
    14.62904084 Italy_FriuliVG
    15.43936851 Dutch
    15.65762753 Irish
    15.67621128 Macedonian


    Target: DORQUEST
    Distance: 2.2068% / 2.20677052 | ADC: 0.25x
    35.8 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    34.6 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    27.4 NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    2.2 BR1_Hungary_2080BC


    Last edited by Dorquest; 02-11-20 at 14:20.

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    Ethnic group
    English, Irish, German, Swiss German
    Country: United States



    Population genomics of Bronze Age Eurasia

    Distance to: DORQUEST
    5.45367766 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    5.60124093 RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    7.94628215 RISE210_Angamollan_Sweden_3105_years
    8.45611613 RISE71_Falshoj_Denmark_3701_years
    9.11999452 RISE61_Kyndelose_Denmark_4071_years
    10.13641949 RISE559_Augsburg_Germany
    10.36420764 RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary
    10.81590033 RISE564_Osterhofen-Altenmark_Germany
    13.52611548 RISE150_Przeclawice_Poland_3469_years
    13.92285890 RISE586_Moravska_Nova_Ves_Czech_Republic
    14.52678560 RISE47_Sebber_skole_Denmark_3153_years
    14.72259828 RISE480_Erd_4_Hungary
    14.76667532 RISE97_Fredriksberg_Sweden_3590_years
    14.83315880 RISE569_Brandysek_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    15.21289585 RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years
    15.48025517 RISE174_Oxie_7_Sweden_1521_years
    15.56477754 RISE374_Szoreg-C_Sziv_Utca_Hungary_3402_years
    15.65917942 RISE563_Osterhofen-Altenmark_Germany
    15.75837238 RISE179_Abekas_I_Sweden_3556_years
    15.76889026 RISE373_Szoreg-C_Sziv_Utca_Hungary_3476_years
    15.80812449 RISE560_Augsburg_Germany
    15.91329633 RISE276_Trundholm_mose_II_2525_years
    15.94810020 RISE349_Battonya_Voros_Oktober_Hungary_3588_years
    16.03154079 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years
    16.27100489 RISE431_Leki_Male_Poland_3762_years

    Target: DORQUEST
    Distance: 1.0322% / 1.03215774 | ADC: 0.25x
    54.2 RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    19.6 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    15.2 RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary
    10.4 RISE559_Augsburg_Germany
    0.6 RISE412_Noratus_Armenia_2885_years


    Distance to: RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    2.47556054 Icelandic
    3.16007911 English_North
    3.44665055 Dutch_North
    3.62414128 Dutch_Central
    3.97860528 Dutch
    4.34043777 Mixed_NW_Euro
    4.42786630 English_mixed
    4.53569179 Irish
    4.55231809 Irish
    4.82210535 English_South
    5.12048826 Swedish
    6.07419954 German
    7.36725186 Dutch_South
    12.17846049 Bavarian_German
    12.77890058 French2
    13.35697571 French
    13.54348183 Sorb_Lusatia
    13.55508392 Slovenian
    13.68681848 Slovak
    15.10415175 Hungarians
    15.21597844 PL_Warmia-Masuria
    15.36637563 PL_GreaterPoland
    17.53336534 Croat
    18.27407727 Ukrainian
    18.74196628 HUN_Szekely




    Distance to: RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    6.54583073 Dutch_South
    6.64913528 German
    7.02413696 Dutch_Central
    7.08014124 Dutch
    7.57295187 Slovenian
    8.16176452 Bavarian_German
    8.89955055 English_South
    9.11120190 English_North
    9.22656491 English_mixed
    9.50474092 Dutch_North
    9.53081843 Hungarians
    9.91845250 Slovak
    10.25273134 Icelandic
    10.35859546 Mixed_NW_Euro
    10.56118838 Swedish
    10.79775903 Croat
    11.49645598 Irish
    11.60940136 Irish
    11.80408404 HUN_Szekely
    11.98574153 Sorb_Lusatia
    12.40797324 Bosnian
    13.04054447 MD_North
    13.04088187 PL_GreaterPoland
    13.97547137 Serb
    14.84816487 French2
    Last edited by Dorquest; 05-11-20 at 03:00.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
    English, Irish, German, Swiss German
    Country: United States



    Distance to: DORQUEST
    10.16559885 scy303_Scythian
    11.05857586 scy009_Scythian
    14.07695635 scy010_Scythian
    14.65281202 scy304_Scythian
    17.60243165 kzb001_Srubnaya
    20.92443070 kzb003_Srubnaya
    21.31096431 kzb006_Srubnaya
    21.44465201 kzb009_Srubnaya
    22.07359509 kzb007_Srubnaya
    23.54744147 kzb004_Srubnaya
    23.62460370 mur003_Srubnaya
    25.36496205 scy301_Scythian
    25.41798773 mur004_Srubnaya
    25.50334292 cim357_Cimmerian
    25.79540657 scy311_Scythian
    27.75092071 kzb002_Srubnaya
    27.95105007 scy011_Scythian
    28.60599587 scy006_Scythian
    28.67419223 mur001_Srubnaya
    28.95423458 scy305_Scythian
    29.05990021 mur002_Srubnaya
    29.13304653 kzb005_Srubnaya
    29.34671361 kzb008_Srubnaya
    30.51115042 chy001_Sarmatian
    30.95112437 scy192_Scythian



    Target: DORQUEST
    Distance: 3.8440% / 3.84399221 | ADC: 0.25x
    71.8 scy303_Scythian
    21.2 scy197_Scythian
    7.0 scy009_Scythian



    Distance to: scy303_Scythian
    3.18799310 Swedish
    3.40656719 Icelandic
    4.63694943 Dutch_North
    6.97272544 Dutch_Central
    7.09630890 German


    Distance to: scy197_Scythian
    6.50429089 Italy_Romagna
    7.27741012 Italy_Marche
    7.48716569 Italy_Tuscany
    7.66083572 Italy_Lazio
    8.36653040 Italy_Emilia

    Distance to: scy009_Scythian
    4.40464528 Sorb_Lusatia
    4.81532969 Slovak
    5.53473577 PL_GreaterPoland
    5.88813213 German
    6.94381739 PL_Warmia-Masuria

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    Ethnic group
    English, Irish, German, Swiss German
    Country: United States



    Mothers results: She looks more like an ancient one !

    Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia [by Eupedia Team]

    Distance to: Ambler
    2.62036257 Collegno87
    2.63144447 MX280_Switzerland_LN
    3.13494817 RISE210_Angamollan_Sweden_3105_years
    3.73858262 France_IA_ATT26
    4.18370649 MX279_Switzerland_LN
    4.56576390 France_BA_RIX4
    4.59868459 NorthAlpineSouthDutch_AITI_2
    4.84541020 Szolad3
    4.85772581 MX288_Switzerland_LN
    4.92473350 CrusaderKnightCelto-GermanicLebanonCrusaderSI47
    4.94896959 Collegno83
    5.14728084 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
    5.22180046 MX257_Switzerland_LN
    5.25036189 SX23_Switzerland_LN
    5.41167257 MX270_Switzerland_LN
    5.46408272 Szolad14
    5.50853883 BellBeakerSouthernFrance_I3874
    5.53047918 NorthAlpineBronzeAgeFrench_AITI_78
    5.58953486 I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1
    5.68699393 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655
    5.68902452 Szolad23
    5.79137289 Szolad38
    5.86444371 France_IA_COL11
    5.93372564 I0118_ALB3_Alberstedt_LN_Alberstedt_Germany_2459-2345_calBCE
    6.02265722 France_BA_BIS130


    Distance to: Collegno87
    3.09420426 English_mixed
    3.22083840 English_South
    3.81219097 English_North
    4.30363800 Mixed_NW_Euro
    4.73072933 Irish
    4.74580868 Irish
    5.13184177 Dutch
    5.37158263 Dutch_Central
    5.70922937 Dutch_South
    6.45461850 Dutch_North
    7.31186707 French2
    7.31896851 Icelandic
    8.05156507 French
    10.06299160 German
    10.12629251 Bavarian_German
    10.59301185 Swedish
    15.24531403 Slovenian
    16.76838599 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    17.05332519 Slovak
    17.62944412 Hungarians
    18.17505983 Sorb_Lusatia
    18.19775261 HUN_Szekely
    18.31887005 Croat
    18.46807245 Spanish_Catalonia
    18.71552030 Spanish_Baleares






    Distance to: Ambler
    2.63144447 MX280_Switzerland_LN
    4.18370649 MX279_Switzerland_LN
    4.85772581 MX288_Switzerland_LN
    5.14728084 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
    5.22180046 MX257_Switzerland_LN
    5.25036189 SX23_Switzerland_LN
    5.41167257 MX270_Switzerland_LN
    6.42526264 MX252_Switzerland_LN
    6.76753279 MX251_Switzerland_LN
    7.69547919 MX258_Switzerland_LN
    8.39745795 MX286_Switzerland_LN
    8.45892428 MX192_Switzerland_LN
    8.61379127 MX275_Switzerland_LN
    8.73515312 MX188_Switzerland_LN
    9.22684128 MX254_Switzerland_LN
    10.03143559 MX283_Switzerland_LN
    10.06671247 MX259_Switzerland_LN
    10.42883023 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
    10.52333122 MX190_Switzerland_LN
    11.01168924 MX195_Switzerland_LN
    11.57008643 MX304_Switzerland_LN
    11.68420301 SX32_Switzerland_LN
    12.15649209 MX277_Switzerland_LN
    12.39430918 SX20_Switzerland_LN
    13.19246376 MX191_Switzerland_LN

    Distance to: MX280_Switzerland_LN
    2.23910696 English_South
    2.39622620 English_mixed
    3.39699868 English_North
    3.70120251 Dutch_South
    3.97726036 Dutch
    4.30438149 Dutch_Central
    4.40223807 Mixed_NW_Euro
    5.15812951 Irish
    5.26188179 Irish
    6.30094437 Dutch_North
    7.28643260 Icelandic
    7.67619698 French2
    8.28228833 French
    8.51044065 Bavarian_German
    9.22517209 German
    10.42932884 Swedish
    13.90886767 Slovenian
    15.90549177 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    16.02964441 Slovak
    16.35468434 Hungarians
    16.78079855 HUN_Szekely
    16.93338714 Croat
    17.28745210 Sorb_Lusatia
    18.15478725 Spanish_Catalonia
    18.20057966 Spanish_Baleares



    Population genomics of Bronze Age Eurasia

    Distance to: Ambler
    3.13494817 RISE210_Angamollan_Sweden_3105_years
    6.40752682 RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years
    8.60448720 RISE61_Kyndelose_Denmark_4071_years
    10.01784907 RISE560_Augsburg_Germany
    10.44525251 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    10.83210044 RISE71_Falshoj_Denmark_3701_years
    11.08933271 RISE586_Moravska_Nova_Ves_Czech_Republic
    11.52881173 RISE559_Augsburg_Germany
    12.53065441 RISE150_Przeclawice_Poland_3469_years
    12.91439507 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years
    13.34363893 RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary
    13.38113598 RISE154_Szczepankowice_Poland_3522_years
    13.49076721 RISE564_Osterhofen-Altenmark_Germany
    14.15963276 RISE562_Landau_an_der_Isar_Germany
    14.38892977 RISE254_Szazhalombatta-Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years
    14.94934112 RISE97_Fredriksberg_Sweden_3590_years
    15.23036441 RISE484_Erd_4_Hungary
    15.28669029 RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years
    15.50904252 RISE373_Szoreg-C_Sziv_Utca_Hungary_3476_years
    15.84983281 RISE47_Sebber_skole_Denmark_3153_years
    15.86781648 RISE174_Oxie_7_Sweden_1521_years
    16.24989846 RISE179_Abekas_I_Sweden_3556_years
    16.25269824 RISE94_Viby_Sweden_4025_years
    16.87902248 RISE480_Erd_4_Hungary
    16.90769056 RISE471_Untermeitingen_Germany


    Distance to: RISE210_Angamollan_Sweden_3105_years
    1.97699267 Irish
    2.11116082 Irish
    2.60854365 Mixed_NW_Euro
    3.10993569 English_mixed
    3.41203751 English_North
    3.65901626 English_South
    6.18519199 Dutch
    6.25890566 Dutch_North
    6.29969047 Icelandic
    6.36712651 Dutch_Central
    7.62289315 Dutch_South
    8.49132498 French2
    9.08906486 French
    10.32832513 Swedish
    11.00217251 German
    12.19167749 Bavarian_German
    17.18704163 Slovenian
    18.47596547 Slovak
    18.84743252 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    18.92451320 Sorb_Lusatia
    19.36353532 Hungarians
    20.09043305 Spanish_Catalonia
    20.24516485 Spanish_Cantabria
    20.46551734 Croat
    20.50746206 HUN_Szekely


    I knew it - those Viking invaders.
    Last edited by Dorquest; 05-11-20 at 02:28.

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    Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia [by Eupedia Team]

    Fathers results:

    Distance to: Richard
    2.63406530 Szolad12
    3.06885972 Szolad11
    3.23979938 Szolad24
    3.42045319 Szolad42
    3.81287293 Szolad13
    4.52441156 I0117_ESP29_Unetice_EBA_Esperstedt_Germany_2199-2064_calBCE
    4.76435725 R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
    4.84214828 Szolad22
    5.15412456 Szolad7
    5.17426323 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    5.45257737 I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical
    5.53014466 Szolad30
    5.60759307 I0047_HAL16_Unetice_EBA_Halberstadt-Sonntagsfeld_Germany_2022-1937_calBCE
    5.61485530 MX190_Switzerland_LN
    5.61636003 R31_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
    5.69646382 I0803_EUL41_Unetice_EBA_Eulau_Germany_2115-1996_calBCE
    5.91215697 I0806_QLB28_Bell_Beaker_LN_Quedlinburg_VII_Germany _2296-2206_calBCE
    5.92401891 BronzeAgeUnetice_I0047
    6.08177606 I0111_ROT4_Bell_Beaker_LN_Rothenschirmbach_Germany _2497-2436_calBCE
    6.15188589 Szolad15
    6.17693290 Szolad38
    6.52921894 France_BA_OBE3722
    6.68549923 scy009_Scythian
    6.69307851 Szolad4
    6.70360351 RISE577_Velke_Prilepy_Czech_Republic_~2000_years


    Distance to: Szolad12
    3.64753341 German
    4.00382317 Dutch_Central
    4.14696274 Dutch
    5.50063633 Dutch_South
    6.01674331 Dutch_North
    6.04379847 English_North
    6.25403070 English_South
    6.51398496 English_mixed
    6.53929660 Icelandic
    7.13509636 Mixed_NW_Euro
    7.32538054 Swedish
    8.33157848 Irish
    8.43324967 Irish
    8.60959349 Slovenian
    8.79424243 Bavarian_German
    9.72470051 Slovak
    10.44775574 Hungarians
    10.96017792 Sorb_Lusatia
    12.40239896 Croat
    12.43320152 PL_GreaterPoland
    13.81590750 HUN_Szekely
    13.90204302 PL_Warmia-Masuria
    13.96941302 Bosnian
    13.98229952 French2
    14.49637196 French


    4,124 years ago.

    Distance to: RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years
    6.54583073 Dutch_South
    6.64913528 German
    7.02413696 Dutch_Central
    7.08014124 Dutch
    7.57295187 Slovenian
    8.16176452 Bavarian_German
    8.89955055 English_South
    9.11120190 English_North
    9.22656491 English_mixed
    9.50474092 Dutch_North
    9.53081843 Hungarians
    9.91845250 Slovak
    10.25273134 Icelandic
    10.35859546 Mixed_NW_Euro
    10.56118838 Swedish
    10.79775903 Croat
    11.49645598 Irish
    11.60940136 Irish
    11.80408404 HUN_Szekely
    11.98574153 Sorb_Lusatia
    12.40797324 Bosnian
    13.04054447 MD_North
    13.04088187 PL_GreaterPoland
    13.97547137 Serb
    14.84816487 French2
    Last edited by Dorquest; 05-11-20 at 13:24.

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