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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    The spread of steppe and Iranian-related ancestry in the islands of the western Mediterranean

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1102-0

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/searc...+Mediterranean


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    Thanks Jovialis. Great job. My results with data above:




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    I see that the Sicilian I4383 went to Hell (Inferno)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post

    I see that the Sicilian I4383 went to Hell (Inferno)
    His sin was being low-coverage. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    The spread of steppe and Iranian-related ancestry in the islands of the western Mediterranean

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1102-0

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/searc...+Mediterranean


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    I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.85,0.82,66.53,6.22,0.00,0.04,7.19,0.00,16.02,0.34
    I16183_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju,0.00,0.00,2.30,0.73,65.78,5.96,0.00,0.00,13.06,0.00,12.16,0.00
    I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,5.09,0.00,57.77,4.27,0.00,0.00,9.57,0.33,22.98,0.00
    I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,4.39,0.02,48.74,11.73,0.00,0.00,9.86,0.00,25.27,0.00
    I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.49,3.79,0.00,49.27,15.29,0.00,0.00,7.27,0.12,23.76,0.00
    I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,3.57,0.00,46.58,5.20,0.02,0.00,11.20,0.00,33.40,0.02
    I3315_Menorca_LBA_Naveta_des_Tudons_Menorca_Spain,3.14,0.00,3.07,0.00,54.78,26.97,0.00,0.00,2.43,0.74,8.56,0.30
    I3642_Sardinia_BA_Alghero,0.00,0.00,5.36,0.00,68.76,4.57,0.00,0.00,8.72,0.00,12.59,0.00
    I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu,0.00,0.00,3.53,0.25,67.43,5.84,0.00,0.00,6.25,0.00,16.61,0.09
    I3743_Sardinia_BA_Seulo,0.00,0.00,4.75,0.00,67.34,6.57,0.00,0.00,8.71,0.00,12.63,0.00
    I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.44,0.00,3.32,0.45,45.73,8.05,0.00,0.00,8.38,0.00,33.09,0.54
    I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita,0.00,0.00,4.85,0.00,47.71,6.41,0.00,0.00,11.13,0.83,28.97,0.11
    I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.28,0.00,53.85,2.15,0.00,0.00,12.51,0.00,28.21,0.00
    I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.71,0.00,57.80,3.16,0.00,0.00,11.58,0.00,23.71,0.03
    I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,3.45,0.00,55.87,1.16,0.00,0.06,13.36,0.00,26.02,0.07
    I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna,0.00,0.00,4.61,0.00,52.59,8.80,0.00,0.23,9.64,0.00,24.13,0.00
    I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II,0.00,0.00,3.84,0.00,47.80,4.53,0.00,0.00,12.50,0.00,31.33,0.00
    I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain,7.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,53.12,23.11,1.24,1.69,0.00,1.52,10.73,0.65
    I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno,0.00,0.00,7.22,0.00,23.35,7.04,0.00,0.00,28.59,0.68,33.11,0.00
    I4420_all_Formentera_MBA_Formentera_Spain,3.80,0.00,5.00,1.21,55.42,21.66,1.49,0.00,2.20,0.00,8.82,0.41
    I4936_n/a,6.77,0.00,1.24,0.00,58.39,0.00,0.00,3.46,0.00,0.00,30.15,0.00
    I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.17,54.27,4.45,0.00,0.00,14.42,0.00,26.01,0.00
    I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,2.20,1.13,0.00,40.25,3.45,0.00,0.00,8.82,0.00,44.16,0.00
    I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,1.14,0.00,4.99,2.71,43.75,15.60,0.00,0.00,13.10,0.00,18.70,0.00
    I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,3.49,5.84,0.00,53.55,3.73,0.00,0.00,16.77,0.00,16.63,0.00
    I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana,0.00,0.00,3.85,0.00,47.37,9.30,0.00,0.00,14.36,0.00,25.12,0.00
    I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello,0.58,0.25,2.77,0.00,50.01,21.56,1.15,0.00,6.79,0.37,16.50,0.00
    Grazie Mille Jovialis for putting these coordinates together!

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    My top 25 Distances:

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    8.41816488 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    12.24358199 I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus
    17.04939588 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    18.04210354 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    19.50048205 I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    19.53551126 I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    19.79989646 I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    20.02307669 I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    20.11438789 I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    20.19769789 I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno
    20.29788659 I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    20.67843563 I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    20.69572178 I12223_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    20.72742628 I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    20.83430824 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    22.17047135 I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    22.34168973 I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    23.91030740 I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    24.91285411 I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    25.33204690 I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
    27.05956947 I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    27.12667138 I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    27.29963187 I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
    27.52953505 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cae_II
    29.54683063 I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna



    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 8.4182% / 8.41816488 | ADC: 2x
    100.0 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi


    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 6.6944% / 6.69436183 | ADC: 1x
    88.2 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    11.8 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi


    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 4.4792% / 4.47919540 | ADC: 0.5x
    83.4 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    16.6 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cae_II


    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 3.2307% / 3.23073580 | ADC: 0.25x
    61.4 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    24.4 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cae_II
    14.2 I12223_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi

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    Mine:
    Distance to: Angela
    11.07102073 I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    12.45045381 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    12.92201610 I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    13.25026415 I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    14.38574642 I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    14.57788050 I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
    14.73415759 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    14.81628496 I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
    15.79691742 I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    15.80730211 I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus
    16.70378700 I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    17.27354625 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    17.27547394 I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    17.35155036 I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    17.50997430 I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    18.19678818 I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    18.98625292 I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    20.53280302 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    21.71147162 I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain
    21.76161759 I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo
    22.44907570 I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    23.14636041 I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    23.65012685 I4420_all_Formentera_MBA_Formentera_Spain
    23.76692870 I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    23.88911677 I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II

    Not bad for Early Bronze, so pre-steppe, pre-Greek and eastern Mediterranean.

    Target: Angela
    Distance: 1.5322% / 1.53221931
    49.8 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    25.2 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    8.0 I4936_n/a
    7.8 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    5.8 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    3.4 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi



    Target: Angela
    Distance: 2.1261% / 2.12605528 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.4 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    35.0 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    12.4 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    10.2 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Mine:
    Distance to: Angela
    11.07102073 I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    12.45045381 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    12.92201610 I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    13.25026415 I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    14.38574642 I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    14.57788050 I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
    14.73415759 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    14.81628496 I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
    15.79691742 I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    15.80730211 I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus
    16.70378700 I3878_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    17.27354625 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    17.27547394 I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    17.35155036 I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    17.50997430 I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    18.19678818 I3125_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    18.98625292 I4109_Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    20.53280302 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
    21.71147162 I4329_Mallorca_EBA_Cova_des_Moro_Mallorca_Spain
    21.76161759 I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo
    22.44907570 I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    23.14636041 I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
    23.65012685 I4420_all_Formentera_MBA_Formentera_Spain
    23.76692870 I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    23.88911677 I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II

    Not bad for Early Bronze, so pre-steppe, pre-Greek and eastern Mediterranean.

    Target: Angela
    Distance: 1.5322% / 1.53221931
    49.8 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    25.2 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    8.0 I4936_n/a
    7.8 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    5.8 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    3.4 I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi



    Target: Angela
    Distance: 2.1261% / 2.12605528 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.4 I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
    35.0 I3876_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
    12.4 I7796_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
    10.2 I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
    Angela: Looking at your results, I think you have said your family is from Tuscany and Liguria? Is that correct, you have good distances with these ancient Sicilians and Sardinians, my best I think is 3% which is good, you have 2 < than that. I am wondering if what I have come to think is correct, and the Park Information at Segesta Trapani states this is that the Elymi were a Ligurian population and the Sicani maybe came from Iberia. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Angela: Looking at your results, I think you have said your family is from Tuscany and Liguria? Is that correct, you have good distances with these ancient Sicilians and Sardinians, my best I think is 3% which is good, you have 2 < than that. I am wondering if what I have come to think is correct, and the Park Information at Segesta Trapani states this is that the Elymi were a Ligurian population and the Sicani maybe came from Iberia. Any thoughts?
    My top 3 are same as angela , but starting at 12

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    Torzio: Yes, I see many here whose ancestors are from various regions having reasonable distances with these ancient Sardinian and Sicilian samples. To me, at least with respect to the Sicilian samples, it is consistent with the hypothesis that the Elymi were related to the Ligures, whose territory included modern Liguria and parts of Piedmont South of the Po River and NW Tuscany. I have said this before in other posts but I spend an entire day in Segesta last summer at the Archaeological park there and that was the what all the official park literature and Brochures indicated was the most probably origin of the Elymi people. I purchased one, nice photos and good write up about Segesta and the Elymi.

    Once again, thanks for the response and thanks to Jovialis again for putting together the sample coordinates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Torzio: Yes, I see many here whose ancestors are from various regions having reasonable distances with these ancient Sardinian and Sicilian samples. To me, at least with respect to the Sicilian samples, it is consistent with the hypothesis that the Elymi were related to the Ligures, whose territory included modern Liguria and parts of Piedmont South of the Po River and NW Tuscany. I have said this before in other posts but I spend an entire day in Segesta last summer at the Archaeological park there and that was the what all the official park literature and Brochures indicated was the most probably origin of the Elymi people. I purchased one, nice photos and good write up about Segesta and the Elymi.

    Once again, thanks for the response and thanks to Jovialis again for putting together the sample coordinates.
    Ligures lands changed a lot in history, so it depends on the time in question...........I have read that the , Ligures and Elymi are related from ancient times, but also related with southern france from rhone river to Italy, this was also Ligures.............then there is the story of Corsica .......what was it it ancient times excluding greek and etruscan settlements or more modern the genoese mix

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    Torzio: Ok, I forgot that Yes Greeks founded some settlements in Southern France adjacent to modern Liguria and the Estrucans expanded North so by the time of the Roman Republic.

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    I added the recent new data provided by Jovialis and rest of Eupedia team (Ancient Sardinian and Sicilian samples) to the other ancient samples K12b dodecad spreadsheet that I ran on my personal computer (I do not mean that I edited the actual K12 spreadsheet). Distances of 0.568 using 0.25x to 2.1 sing 2x. R52 and R56 continue to be the leaders using 2x for every estimation I have run. Anyway, hope everyone is doing well during what is becoming more and more a total lock-down. Cheers.

    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 2.1017% / 2.10165024 | ADC: 2x
    55.0 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    45.0 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna


    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 1.6478% / 1.64778114 | ADC: 1x
    52.2 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    25.6 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    21.4 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    0.8 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche


    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 1.1565% / 1.15648936 | ADC: 0.5x
    41.4 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    27.2 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    15.4 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    10.0 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    3.0 R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    2.2 I3808_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    0.8 I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE



    Target: PalermoTrapani
    Distance: 0.5680% / 0.56798132 | ADC: 0.25x
    47.8 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    14.2 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    13.0 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    8.0 R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    5.8 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    5.4 R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    3.6 I7499_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
    1.4 BAJ001_Baja_PPNB
    0.6 I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno
    0.2 I1704_AG89_1_Early_LPPNB
    Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 21-03-20 at 00:29.

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    BR1_Hungary_2080BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,45.03,54.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00
    BR2_Hungary_1180BC,1.09,0.00,0.38,0.00,36.78,41.52,0.00,0.00,3.74,0.00,16.14,0.36
    CO1_Hungary_2810BC,0.00,0.00,1.54,0.00,65.12,9.70,0.00,0.00,5.33,0.00,18.31,0.00
    IR1_Hungary_900BC,12.79,4.22,0.00,0.00,24.04,43.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,15.09,0.00
    KO1_Hungary_5710BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,22.65,77.20,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    KO2_Hungary_5640BC,0.00,0.00,6.93,0.00,54.74,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.75,0.00,29.58,0.00
    NE1_Hungary_5230BC,0.00,0.00,2.35,0.00,49.16,4.72,0.00,0.00,13.36,0.00,30.41,0.00
    NE2_Hungary_5140BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,68.57,12.56,0.00,0.00,6.86,0.00,12.02,0.00
    NE3_Hungary_5130BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,62.82,9.32,0.00,0.00,5.06,0.00,22.81,0.00
    NE4_Hungary_5130BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,63.48,6.13,0.00,0.00,7.98,0.00,22.41,0.00
    NE5_Hungary_5120BC,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.00,65.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.97,0.00,23.27,0.00
    NE6_Hungary_5090BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,63.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,11.43,0.00,24.97,0.00
    NE7_Hungary_4420BC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,51.44,48.56,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms6257
    CSV files downloaded from http://www.y-str.org/p/ancient-dna.html

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    Jovialis: Thanks for these updated samples, Gives me something to do with this lock down situation, etc. Here are my distances for those samples.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    21.82728797 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    29.09814255 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    34.39944476 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    35.44392755 NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    36.15288785 NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    37.18422381 NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    38.18388404 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    38.61864446 CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    39.21603499 NE5_Hungary_5120BC
    43.83685892 NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    53.63528410 NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    55.86616597 BR1_Hungary_2080BC
    72.99591427 KO1_Hungary_5710BC

    Same distances as above in plain text format. Blue is hard to see.
    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    21.82728797 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    29.09814255 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    34.39944476 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    35.44392755 NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    36.15288785 NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    37.18422381 NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    38.18388404 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    38.61864446 CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    39.21603499 NE5_Hungary_5120BC
    43.83685892 NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    53.63528410 NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    55.86616597 BR1_Hungary_2080BC
    72.99591427 KO1_Hungary_5710BC

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    Here is mine:



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    Hi Trapani. THX [email protected]: You are doing a wonderful job in developing the Dodecad K12b ancient calculator.
    My results with the new source data you posted:




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    Distance to: Angela
    19.44582217 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    24.88092643 NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    25.00309981 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    25.39413515 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    27.06246478 NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    27.73900503 CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    30.83426017 NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    32.31379117 NE5_Hungary_5120BC
    32.47433910 NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    33.85984495 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    41.72462582 NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    45.25534223 BR1_Hungary_2080BC
    66.81439516 KO1_Hungary_5710BC

    Not great, but still...NE1 is a 7,000 year old sample.

    Target: Angela
    Distance: 5.0309% / 5.03094683 | ADC: 0.5x
    62.4 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    19.6 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    18.0 IR1_Hungary_900BC


    Target: Angela
    Distance: 3.9032% / 3.90318526 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.6 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    30.4 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    11.2 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    7.8 BR2_Hungary_1180BC



    Target: Angela
    Distance: 3.6196% / 3.61959977
    36.2 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    34.2 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    26.4 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    3.2 BR2_Hungary_1180BC

    Just for curiosity. :)

    Well, there you go:
    Distance to: NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    17.98749165 France_Corsica
    22.71544272 Italy_Marche
    23.09781267 Italy_Tuscany
    23.26642646 Italy_Romagna
    23.62663256 Italy_Campania
    23.90972168 Italy_Emilia
    23.97602115 Italy_Liguria
    24.20452437 Morocco_Jews
    24.36727404 Italy_Lazio
    24.50136975 Italy_Abruzzo
    24.78742829 Italy_Calabria
    25.03199163 Italy_Sicily
    25.05596935 Sardinian
    25.11970541 Sephardic_Jews
    25.26654621 Italy_Lombardy
    25.68698892 Andalucia
    26.14215370 Ashkenazi
    26.29361519 Baleares
    26.31152219 Murcia
    27.16657689 Ashkenazy_Jews
    27.26620014 Italy_Piedmont
    27.40877465 Italy_Apulia
    27.51232815 Canarias
    27.58470953 Greek
    28.27292481 Italy_Veneto

    If that Corsican sample wasn't submitted by that Italian racist, whom I don't trust at all to submit a representative sample, I'd start thinking maybe Corsicans harbor a lot of really archaic EEF ancestry, which I may harbor as well? Or maybe it's because the Corsican sample he chose has a lot of Ligurian and Tuscan ancestry, which I also carry?

    The oldest sample...again, there you go...
    Distance to: KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    18.78794826 Sardinian
    24.20574345 France_Corsica
    26.39285509 Andalucia
    27.90916337 Murcia
    28.19193856 Canarias
    28.82647047 Baleares
    29.70977465 Italy_Tuscany
    29.84096342 Italy_Marche
    29.93355976 Morocco_Jews
    30.19492341 Italy_Romagna
    30.20982208 Italy_Liguria
    30.21354251 Italy_Emilia
    30.75921650 Castilla_Y_Leon
    30.88364292 Castilla_La_Mancha
    30.93765343 Extremadura
    30.95598950 Italy_Campania
    31.10530497 Italy_Lombardy
    31.12785569 Spaniards
    31.19113977 Galicia
    31.35823975 Valencia
    31.44546015 Italy_Lazio
    31.54411514 Aragon
    31.57089641 Portuguese
    31.57546516 Sephardic_Jews
    31.63464872 Italy_Abruzzo

    Bronze Age 1-Northwest European That's what it looked like when the paper came out.
    Distance to: BR1_Hungary_2080BC
    12.23933822 Norwegian
    13.58254026 British_Isles
    14.57440908 Swedish
    14.86349219 Orkney
    15.37242336 Orcadian
    15.44038212 CEU30
    15.44797074 English
    15.51519900 Dutch
    15.52395568 Irish
    15.89749351 Kent
    16.05700470 British
    16.71362917 Argyll
    16.73115059 Cornwall
    17.66673145 Mixed_Germanic
    18.39835319 German
    21.41969888 French
    21.74062097 French
    25.52017633 Hungarians
    28.34050282 Polish
    29.08962874 Croat
    30.79556624 Bosnian
    31.23188333 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    32.88461798 Mixed_Slav
    32.89634326 Cataluna
    33.53238703 Italy_Trentino

    Bronze Age 2-I said French like at the time...a little off...however, most of the German samples are from Southwest Germany, aren't they? They're pretty "eastern French like". Makes sense this is my closest post Neolithic one.
    Distance to: BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    10.88460381 Croat
    11.92082631 German
    12.23653546 Bosnian
    12.39104919 Hungarians
    13.14880620 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    13.22641902 Italy_Trentino
    13.77661787 French
    13.83621697 French
    14.46242934 Swiss_Italian
    14.46478828 Mixed_Germanic
    14.62904084 Italy_FriuliVG
    15.43936851 Dutch
    16.10874607 Macedonian
    16.58814569 Italy_Veneto
    17.02055228 Kent
    17.35004611 CEU30
    17.40313564 Italy_Piedmont
    17.50972016 English
    18.02390357 Pomak
    18.15252324 British_Isles
    18.44310440 Romanians
    18.48424587 Italy_Lombardy
    19.27215868 Cornwall
    19.64846304 British
    19.99509190 Bulgarians

    Iron Age I: Less French like. Makes sense he's further for me.
    Distance to: IR1_Hungary_900BC
    11.14675738 Croat
    11.30375159 Bosnian
    11.30410103 Hungarians
    13.34266465 German
    17.49178950 Mixed_Germanic
    18.40167112 Macedonian
    18.47205186 Pomak
    19.03341010 Dutch
    19.68381823 Romanians
    21.31583214 Bulgarian
    21.33708509 Gagauz
    21.53371078 CEU30
    21.74191804 Kent
    21.77721057 English
    21.88119512 Swedish
    22.22464569 Italy_FriuliVG
    22.28871239 Bulgarians
    22.73545029 Norwegian
    22.95780260 Argyll
    23.21613017 British_Isles
    23.23178857 French
    23.44609818 Italy_Trentino
    23.63692528 Italy_Aosta_Valley
    23.70930830 French
    23.84149114 Orkney

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    Here is mine:


    ... and mine, Thanks J :)




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    Distance to:Torziok12b
    13.91970186 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    22.67436658 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    30.79281085 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    32.97969072 NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    33.99367735 NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    34.75063453 BR1_Hungary_2080BC
    35.51276672 CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    36.36981716 NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    36.85568070 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    37.80136109 NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    41.07214871 NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    42.16881905 NE5_Hungary_5120BC
    54.34693000 KO1_Hungary_5710BC


    41.8 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    37.6 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    20.6 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 2.3039% / 2.30394672
    47.6 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    39.2 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    6.0 BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    3.6 KO1_Hungary_5710BC
    3.2 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    0.4 NE5_Hungary_5120BC

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    Mine :

    13.98373698 -- BR2_Hungary_1180BC
    24.10326949 -- NE7_Hungary_4420BC
    25.05234320 -- IR1_Hungary_900BC
    27.85867190 -- BR1_Hungary_2080BC
    31.54795873 -- NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    31.59323662 -- CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    32.05247416 -- NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    34.37832748 -- NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    34.38928903 -- NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    38.30585856 -- KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    40.39522992 -- NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    40.80712315 -- NE5_Hungary_5120BC
    52.67636852 -- KO1_Hungary_5710BC
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    26.34686699 NE1_Hungary_5230BC
    27.34741853 IR1_Hungary_900BC
    33.27912258 KO2_Hungary_5640BC
    33.67565144 NE3_Hungary_5130BC
    35.58526099 NE4_Hungary_5130BC
    36.07783253 CO1_Hungary_2810BC
    39.10597397 NE6_Hungary_5090BC
    39.74953962 NE2_Hungary_5140BC
    40.62570984 NE5_Hungary_5120BC
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    Hi Duarte: Not sure this is the place but how are things in Brazil? with the Covid-19 situation. Hope you, your family and country are holding up well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Hi Duarte: Not sure this is the place but how are things in Brazil? with the Covid-19 situation. Hope you, your family and country are holding up well.
    Hello Trapani. Me and the family are fine. We are in quarentine. The government of my State ordered the closure of State borders and the compulsory closure of trade and the halt of all non-essential activities at least for 15 days. State governors and city mayors in Brazil are aware of the seriousness of the situation and are taking steps that the federal government is not taking. We have a cognitive impaired president of the republic. Unfortunately, the free movement of people and goods between the states of the country has been interrupted. Difficult but necessary measure. I hope everything is fine with you and your family too. Thank you for your concern. This is a time when solidarity must prevail and all swoops left aside. A big hug and stay with God.


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