K12b Dodecad K12b Ancient West Eurasia [by Eupedia Team]

[Anfänger]

DodecadK12b. Can anyone get farther away ? :embarassed:

 

[Angela]

Distance to:	Angela
12.33096914	MX299_Switzerland_LN
13.74084422	SX18_Switzerland_LN
18.75650820	SX29_Switzerland_LN
21.46235309	MX256_Switzerland_LN
21.96523162	MX277_Switzerland_LN
22.25586664	SX20_Switzerland_LN
23.24060886	MX254_Switzerland_LN
23.54263579	MX219_Switzerland_LN
24.00673655	MX283_Switzerland_LN
24.03900996	MX286_Switzerland_LN
24.22590762	SNPRA42_Switzerland_LN
24.24752977	SX30_Switzerland_LN
25.09396342	MX259_Switzerland_LN
25.43743501	SX26_Switzerland_LN
25.75116696	SX21_Switzerland_LN
25.76708559	SX33_Switzerland_LN
26.30128514	SNPRA62_Switzerland_LN
26.30138780	SX11_Switzerland_LN
27.08770016	MX265_Switzerland_LN
27.11809543	SX22_Switzerland_LN
27.49915635	SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
27.68234455	SX23_Switzerland_LN
28.04048323	MX258_Switzerland_LN
28.11758702	MX298_Switzerland_LN
28.40213372	MX204_Switzerland_LN

The combination isn't that bad...

Target: Angela Distance: 5.5702% / 5.57018636
53.2	SX33_Switzerland_LN
26.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN
16.8	MX259_Switzerland_LN
4.0	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN

 

[Angela]

Distance to:	Angela
12.33096914	MX299_Switzerland_LN
13.74084422	SX18_Switzerland_LN
18.75650820	SX29_Switzerland_LN
21.46235309	MX256_Switzerland_LN
21.96523162	MX277_Switzerland_LN
22.25586664	SX20_Switzerland_LN
23.24060886	MX254_Switzerland_LN
23.54263579	MX219_Switzerland_LN
24.00673655	MX283_Switzerland_LN
24.03900996	MX286_Switzerland_LN
24.22590762	SNPRA42_Switzerland_LN
24.24752977	SX30_Switzerland_LN
25.09396342	MX259_Switzerland_LN
25.43743501	SX26_Switzerland_LN
25.75116696	SX21_Switzerland_LN
25.76708559	SX33_Switzerland_LN
26.30128514	SNPRA62_Switzerland_LN
26.30138780	SX11_Switzerland_LN
27.08770016	MX265_Switzerland_LN
27.11809543	SX22_Switzerland_LN
27.49915635	SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
27.68234455	SX23_Switzerland_LN
28.04048323	MX258_Switzerland_LN
28.11758702	MX298_Switzerland_LN
28.40213372	MX204_Switzerland_LN

The combination isn't that bad...

Target: Angela Distance: 5.5702% / 5.57018636
53.2	SX33_Switzerland_LN
26.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN
16.8	MX259_Switzerland_LN
4.0	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN

Everyone's closest sample so far: MX99 is a woman so no yDna.

WHG:Anatolia Neolithic:Yamnaya Samarra

0.212

0.74

0.048

For my particular mix:

53.2	SX33_Switzerland_LN I2a1a2a-L161

0.036

0.882

0.082

26.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN

0.168

0.782

0.05

16.8	MX259_Switzerland_LN R1b-P312

This one above has a lot of steppe:

0.146

0.313

0.541

4.0	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN R1b-L2

Couldn't find it for some reason.

Anyone know where I can find the mtDna by sample designation?

Also...the matchiest one for most of us: MX299

And there we have it: Reasonably close to Swiss Italians, and for the rest Northern Italians, with Ligurians at 11 and Emilians are at 12, which is also what I get. Well, good for Swiss Italians. How's that for continuity since the Neolithic.

Distance to:	MX299_Switzerland_LN
7.86760208	Swiss_Italian
8.32155634	Baleares
8.66289609	Italy_Aosta_Valley
8.80006372	Italy_Lombardy
9.50976971	Italy_Trentino
10.30051940	Galicia
10.42783439	Italy_Piedmont
11.21987332	Italy_Veneto
11.36515878	Italy_Liguria
12.02383882	Extremadura
12.24202561	Italy_Emilia
12.35363509	Spaniards
12.65125685	Castilla_Y_Leon
12.87222980	Murcia
12.96705055	Portuguese
13.03473437	Cataluna
13.30628859	Italy_FriuliVG
13.74800167	Italy_Tuscany
13.78275372	Andalucia
13.81295754	France_Corsica
13.92482316	Spanish
14.33911783	Cantabria
14.75452134	Valencia
15.16549702	Castilla_La_Mancha
15.80986717	Aragon

The one from which I draw the most ancestry?

Distance to:	SX33_Switzerland_LN
17.74760266	Sardinian
24.62424366	France_Corsica
26.16187684	Andalucia
27.29518273	Murcia
28.52495399	Baleares
28.54731161	Canarias
29.94709218	Italy_Tuscany
30.00704917	Castilla_La_Mancha
30.35142501	Castilla_Y_Leon
30.36952851	Italy_Liguria
30.36969769	Italy_Marche
30.43795011	Italy_Emilia
30.52892071	Spaniards
30.58701031	Italy_Romagna
30.62304035	Extremadura
30.66261241	Morocco_Jews
30.68207946	Galicia
30.78280039	Valencia
30.82295898	Aragon
31.25414373	Portuguese
31.27009558	Italy_Lombardy
31.28882548	Spanish
31.69249227	Italy_Campania
31.88474557	Cantabria
31.98319971	Italy_Lazio

There's all that Sardinian and Spanish I always pick up. Somehow, I think my remote areas are very high in this ancient EEF type ancestry, and my Spanish affinity may be very ancient as well. Cardial, perhaps?

Next, a steppe heavy one shows up...unless I did something wrong, there's an error. On the excel page, this is supposedly 5% steppe, which makes no sense.

I draw a quarter of my ancestry from this supposedly.

Distance to:	MX310_Switzerland_LN
10.56213993	Ukranians
11.02666767	Rus_Smolensk
11.16888983	Rus_Kostroma
11.82433085	Hungarians
12.94697648	Rus_Tver
13.28619584	Southwest_Rus
13.52036612	Bosnian
13.89752136	Croat
13.99387366	Mixed_Slav
14.10285432	Polish
17.03985915	Mordovians
17.09695879	Belorussian
20.11568542	Romanians
20.39948039	German
21.03739765	Rus_Pinega
21.33617117	Pomak
21.60168512	Bulgarian
22.19832877	Bulgarians
22.36958203	Tatar_Kazan
22.87010713	Macedonian
23.84304511	Lithuanian
25.09249091	Gagauz
25.77997867	Chuvash
25.93574368	Swedish
25.96865226	Turk_Romania

Distance to:	MX259_Switzerland_LN
11.07642993	Mixed_Germanic
11.19961160	German
11.53935873	Croat
12.39836280	French
12.51147626	Italy_Aosta_Valley
12.54265522	Bosnian
12.67442701	French
13.16173621	Dutch
13.55712064	Italy_Trentino
13.66584428	Hungarians
14.32200810	Italy_FriuliVG
14.59410840	Kent
14.91406383	CEU30
15.10508193	English
15.29345162	Swiss_Italian
15.58592634	Macedonian
16.06895844	Italy_Veneto
16.64251483	British_Isles
16.66449219	Cornwall
16.69550599	Italy_Piedmont
17.23453800	British
17.58532627	Pomak
17.60685378	Argyll
18.28327925	Irish
18.46221276	Orcadian

Distance to:	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN
8.82408069	Sardinian
25.72531827	Andalucia
27.90657629	Valencia
27.94614464	Aragon
28.64672756	Castilla_La_Mancha
28.72721706	Murcia
29.17884508	Spaniards
29.36233983	Baleares
29.42150574	Cantabria
30.24174267	Castilla_Y_Leon
30.41365483	Spanish
30.66866479	French_Basque
31.34283012	Canarias
31.82911246	Extremadura
32.02906493	Cataluna
32.11195416	Galicia
32.60566233	France_Corsica
32.69545840	Pais_Vasco
33.02487699	Portuguese
36.24869815	Italy_Lombardy
36.89030401	Italy_Liguria
36.89224757	Italy_Emilia
37.17355794	Italy_Tuscany
38.24146588	Swiss_Italian
38.52528157	Italy_Piedmont

Well, on other tests I get about 25% "steppe", so I guess it fits.

It would be interesting to see what Swiss Germans get. Swiss Italians are at about a 7 with one of the samples, although I don't know about the others.

 

[italouruguayan]

Mine

Distance to: italouruguayan
19.75709493 MX259_Switzerland_LN
20.64923001 MX254_Switzerland_LN
21.25218812 MX258_Switzerland_LN
21.53405443 MX265_Switzerland_LN
22.66651716 SX23_Switzerland_LN
22.90805535 MX256_Switzerland_LN
22.93264703 MX270_Switzerland_LN
22.99793034 MX277_Switzerland_LN
23.50641615 MX286_Switzerland_LN
23.69529067 MX299_Switzerland_LN
24.09997718 MX257_Switzerland_LN
24.24651315 MX283_Switzerland_LN
24.52169652 SX20_Switzerland_LN
25.19305063 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
25.20693357 MX279_Switzerland_LN
25.25239395 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
25.35815056 MX304_Switzerland_LN
25.36605212 MX280_Switzerland_LN
25.67852410 MX251_Switzerland_LN
25.85922659 MX190_Switzerland_LN
26.04043010 MX288_Switzerland_LN
26.09811487 SX18_Switzerland_LN
26.50530324 MX275_Switzerland_LN
26.67662272 MX188_Switzerland_LN
26.79602023 SX32_Switzerland_LN

 

[Jovialis]

Everyone's closest sample so far: MX99 is a woman so no yDna.

WHG:Anatolia Neolithic:Yamnaya Samarra

0.212

0.74

0.048

For my particular mix:

53.2	SX33_Switzerland_LN I2a1a2a-L161

0.036

0.882

0.082

26.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN

0.168

0.782

0.05

16.8	MX259_Switzerland_LN R1b-P312

This one above has a lot of steppe:

0.146

0.313

0.541

4.0	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN R1b-L2

Couldn't find it for some reason.

Anyone know where I can find the mtDna by sample designation?

Also...the matchiest one for most of us: MX299

And there we have it: Reasonably close to Swiss Italians, and for the rest Northern Italians, with Ligurians at 11 and Emilians are at 12, which is also what I get. Well, good for Swiss Italians. How's that for continuity since the Neolithic.

Distance to:	MX299_Switzerland_LN
7.86760208	Swiss_Italian
8.32155634	Baleares
8.66289609	Italy_Aosta_Valley
8.80006372	Italy_Lombardy
9.50976971	Italy_Trentino
10.30051940	Galicia
10.42783439	Italy_Piedmont
11.21987332	Italy_Veneto
11.36515878	Italy_Liguria
12.02383882	Extremadura
12.24202561	Italy_Emilia
12.35363509	Spaniards
12.65125685	Castilla_Y_Leon
12.87222980	Murcia
12.96705055	Portuguese
13.03473437	Cataluna
13.30628859	Italy_FriuliVG
13.74800167	Italy_Tuscany
13.78275372	Andalucia
13.81295754	France_Corsica
13.92482316	Spanish
14.33911783	Cantabria
14.75452134	Valencia
15.16549702	Castilla_La_Mancha
15.80986717	Aragon

The one from which I draw the most ancestry?

Distance to:	SX33_Switzerland_LN
17.74760266	Sardinian
24.62424366	France_Corsica
26.16187684	Andalucia
27.29518273	Murcia
28.52495399	Baleares
28.54731161	Canarias
29.94709218	Italy_Tuscany
30.00704917	Castilla_La_Mancha
30.35142501	Castilla_Y_Leon
30.36952851	Italy_Liguria
30.36969769	Italy_Marche
30.43795011	Italy_Emilia
30.52892071	Spaniards
30.58701031	Italy_Romagna
30.62304035	Extremadura
30.66261241	Morocco_Jews
30.68207946	Galicia
30.78280039	Valencia
30.82295898	Aragon
31.25414373	Portuguese
31.27009558	Italy_Lombardy
31.28882548	Spanish
31.69249227	Italy_Campania
31.88474557	Cantabria
31.98319971	Italy_Lazio

There's all that Sardinian and Spanish I always pick up. Somehow, I think my remote areas are very high in this ancient EEF type ancestry, and my Spanish affinity may be very ancient as well. Cardial, perhaps?

Next, a steppe heavy one shows up...unless I did something wrong, there's an error. On the excel page, this is supposedly 5% steppe, which makes no sense.

I draw a quarter of my ancestry from this supposedly.

Distance to:	MX310_Switzerland_LN
10.56213993	Ukranians
11.02666767	Rus_Smolensk
11.16888983	Rus_Kostroma
11.82433085	Hungarians
12.94697648	Rus_Tver
13.28619584	Southwest_Rus
13.52036612	Bosnian
13.89752136	Croat
13.99387366	Mixed_Slav
14.10285432	Polish
17.03985915	Mordovians
17.09695879	Belorussian
20.11568542	Romanians
20.39948039	German
21.03739765	Rus_Pinega
21.33617117	Pomak
21.60168512	Bulgarian
22.19832877	Bulgarians
22.36958203	Tatar_Kazan
22.87010713	Macedonian
23.84304511	Lithuanian
25.09249091	Gagauz
25.77997867	Chuvash
25.93574368	Swedish
25.96865226	Turk_Romania

Distance to:	MX259_Switzerland_LN
11.07642993	Mixed_Germanic
11.19961160	German
11.53935873	Croat
12.39836280	French
12.51147626	Italy_Aosta_Valley
12.54265522	Bosnian
12.67442701	French
13.16173621	Dutch
13.55712064	Italy_Trentino
13.66584428	Hungarians
14.32200810	Italy_FriuliVG
14.59410840	Kent
14.91406383	CEU30
15.10508193	English
15.29345162	Swiss_Italian
15.58592634	Macedonian
16.06895844	Italy_Veneto
16.64251483	British_Isles
16.66449219	Cornwall
16.69550599	Italy_Piedmont
17.23453800	British
17.58532627	Pomak
17.60685378	Argyll
18.28327925	Irish
18.46221276	Orcadian

Distance to:	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN
8.82408069	Sardinian
25.72531827	Andalucia
27.90657629	Valencia
27.94614464	Aragon
28.64672756	Castilla_La_Mancha
28.72721706	Murcia
29.17884508	Spaniards
29.36233983	Baleares
29.42150574	Cantabria
30.24174267	Castilla_Y_Leon
30.41365483	Spanish
30.66866479	French_Basque
31.34283012	Canarias
31.82911246	Extremadura
32.02906493	Cataluna
32.11195416	Galicia
32.60566233	France_Corsica
32.69545840	Pais_Vasco
33.02487699	Portuguese
36.24869815	Italy_Lombardy
36.89030401	Italy_Liguria
36.89224757	Italy_Emilia
37.17355794	Italy_Tuscany
38.24146588	Swiss_Italian
38.52528157	Italy_Piedmont

Well, on other tests I get about 25% "steppe", so I guess it fits.

It would be interesting to see what Swiss Germans get. Swiss Italians are at about a 7 with one of the samples, although I don't know about the others.

Here are the Late Neolithic Swiss compared to Italian populations on a PCA:

 

[Angela]

Here are the Late Neolithic Swiss compared to Italian populations on a PCA:

Very, very nice.

So, these "natives" too were very modern Sardinian like.

I'm assuming the samples to the north and east on the PCA are Swiss German, Austrian and perhaps eastern European like?

 

[torzio]

Here are the Late Neolithic Swiss compared to Italian populations on a PCA:

@Jovialis

the difference between Angela and I is

Distance to:	MX254_Switzerland_LN
7.33645010	French
7.43584561	French
8.87658181	Italy_Aosta_Valley
11.05456015	Italy_Trentino
12.06747954	Swiss_Italian
12.08647178	Mixed_Germanic
13.33487158	Dutch
13.55036900	Kent
13.55648981	Italy_FriuliVG
14.08817944	German
14.23238560	CEU30
14.28828891	English
14.81596673	Italy_Piedmont
15.00195987	Cornwall
15.00493618	Italy_Veneto
15.23721759	British_Isles
15.59489660	British
15.96113718	Croat
16.07137448	Italy_Lombardy
16.71133148	Galicia
17.04189250	Bosnian
17.24502247	Irish
17.41834665	Argyll
17.58393585	Orcadian
17.69352424	Cataluna

Do you have his Ydna marker and mtdna



and i also have as the next difference

Distance to:	MX310_Switzerland_LN
10.56213993	Ukranians
11.02666767	Rus_Smolensk
11.16888983	Rus_Kostroma
11.82433085	Hungarians
12.94697648	Rus_Tver
13.28619584	Southwest_Rus
13.52036612	Bosnian
13.89752136	Croat
13.99387366	Mixed_Slav
14.10285432	Polish
17.03985915	Mordovians
17.09695879	Belorussian
20.11568542	Romanians
20.39948039	German
21.03739765	Rus_Pinega
21.33617117	Pomak
21.60168512	Bulgarian
22.19832877	Bulgarians
22.36958203	Tatar_Kazan
22.87010713	Macedonian
23.84304511	Lithuanian
25.09249091	Gagauz
25.77997867	Chuvash
25.93574368	Swedish
25.96865226	Turk_Romania

64.0	Ukranians
21.0	Bosnian
15.0	Bulgarian

 

[halfalp]

Anyone can explain me how to compare yourself with those ancient samples, like the swiss ones?

 

[Jovialis]

Very, very nice.

So, these "natives" too were very modern Sardinian like.

I'm assuming the samples to the north and east on the PCA are Swiss German, Austrian and perhaps eastern European like?

Here is the PCA with the other West Eurasian populations:

 

[Stuvanè]

Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè

15.76454566 MX299_Switzerland_LN
18.88334981 SX18_Switzerland_LN
20.03450523 MX254_Switzerland_LN
20.78851847 MX259_Switzerland_LN
20.97265362 MX265_Switzerland_LN
21.46425633 MX277_Switzerland_LN
21.58029425 MX256_Switzerland_LN
22.19705161 SX20_Switzerland_LN
22.86660666 MX286_Switzerland_LN
23.30195485 MX283_Switzerland_LN
23.74477206 MX258_Switzerland_LN
23.82370458 SX23_Switzerland_LN
25.44426458 MX270_Switzerland_LN
26.55677503 MX304_Switzerland_LN
26.59137266 MX288_Switzerland_LN
26.78406803 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
26.95482888 MX257_Switzerland_LN
27.06914664 SX29_Switzerland_LN
27.17863867 MX279_Switzerland_LN
27.20136577 MX280_Switzerland_LN
28.03234204 MX298_Switzerland_LN
28.52684175 MX251_Switzerland_LN
28.70033275 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
29.11064067 MX275_Switzerland_LN
29.37606509 MX252_Switzerland_LN


Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 14.7397% / 14.73968050 | ADC: 1x
86.8 MX299_Switzerland_LN
13.2 MX265_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 10.4435% / 10.44352352 | ADC: 0.5x
56.4 MX299_Switzerland_LN
26.0 MX310_Switzerland_LN
17.6 SX33_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.6825% / 5.68248183 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 SX33_Switzerland_LN
43.2 MX310_Switzerland_LN
9.6 MX259_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.4129% / 5.41285129
49.8 SX33_Switzerland_LN
48.4 MX310_Switzerland_LN
1.8 MX199_Switzerland_LN

 

[torzio]

Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè

15.76454566 MX299_Switzerland_LN
18.88334981 SX18_Switzerland_LN
20.03450523 MX254_Switzerland_LN
20.78851847 MX259_Switzerland_LN
20.97265362 MX265_Switzerland_LN
21.46425633 MX277_Switzerland_LN
21.58029425 MX256_Switzerland_LN
22.19705161 SX20_Switzerland_LN
22.86660666 MX286_Switzerland_LN
23.30195485 MX283_Switzerland_LN
23.74477206 MX258_Switzerland_LN
23.82370458 SX23_Switzerland_LN
25.44426458 MX270_Switzerland_LN
26.55677503 MX304_Switzerland_LN
26.59137266 MX288_Switzerland_LN
26.78406803 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
26.95482888 MX257_Switzerland_LN
27.06914664 SX29_Switzerland_LN
27.17863867 MX279_Switzerland_LN
27.20136577 MX280_Switzerland_LN
28.03234204 MX298_Switzerland_LN
28.52684175 MX251_Switzerland_LN
28.70033275 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
29.11064067 MX275_Switzerland_LN
29.37606509 MX252_Switzerland_LN


Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 14.7397% / 14.73968050 | ADC: 1x
86.8 MX299_Switzerland_LN
13.2 MX265_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 10.4435% / 10.44352352 | ADC: 0.5x
56.4 MX299_Switzerland_LN
26.0 MX310_Switzerland_LN
17.6 SX33_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.6825% / 5.68248183 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 SX33_Switzerland_LN
43.2 MX310_Switzerland_LN
9.6 MX259_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.4129% / 5.41285129
49.8 SX33_Switzerland_LN
48.4 MX310_Switzerland_LN
1.8 MX199_Switzerland_LN

your Targets are similar to mine ...............are your ancestors from the adriatic side of Italy ?

 

[Jovialis]

Anyone can explain me how to compare yourself with those ancient samples, like the swiss ones?

Take your Dodecad K12b results, and separate them by commas, if you want PM them to me.

 

[Anfänger]

Anyone can explain me how to compare yourself with those ancient samples, like the swiss ones?

Just copy paste the Swiss sample coordinates into source tab and your gedmatch coordinates from DodecadK12B into target tab like this example:

Name,14.6,0,1.45,

Gedorisa: 14,6
Eastasian: -
Caucasus: 1,45

Edit: I see Jovialis just answered first.

 

[Angela]

@Jovialis

the difference between Angela and I is

Distance to:	MX254_Switzerland_LN
7.33645010	French
7.43584561	French
8.87658181	Italy_Aosta_Valley
11.05456015	Italy_Trentino
12.06747954	Swiss_Italian
12.08647178	Mixed_Germanic
13.33487158	Dutch
13.55036900	Kent
13.55648981	Italy_FriuliVG
14.08817944	German
14.23238560	CEU30
14.28828891	English
14.81596673	Italy_Piedmont
15.00195987	Cornwall
15.00493618	Italy_Veneto
15.23721759	British_Isles
15.59489660	British
15.96113718	Croat
16.07137448	Italy_Lombardy
16.71133148	Galicia
17.04189250	Bosnian
17.24502247	Irish
17.41834665	Argyll
17.58393585	Orcadian
17.69352424	Cataluna

Do you have his Ydna marker and mtdna



and i also have as the next difference

Distance to:	MX310_Switzerland_LN
10.56213993	Ukranians
11.02666767	Rus_Smolensk
11.16888983	Rus_Kostroma
11.82433085	Hungarians
12.94697648	Rus_Tver
13.28619584	Southwest_Rus
13.52036612	Bosnian
13.89752136	Croat
13.99387366	Mixed_Slav
14.10285432	Polish
17.03985915	Mordovians
17.09695879	Belorussian
20.11568542	Romanians
20.39948039	German
21.03739765	Rus_Pinega
21.33617117	Pomak
21.60168512	Bulgarian
22.19832877	Bulgarians
22.36958203	Tatar_Kazan
22.87010713	Macedonian
23.84304511	Lithuanian
25.09249091	Gagauz
25.77997867	Chuvash
25.93574368	Swedish
25.96865226	Turk_Romania

64.0	Ukranians
21.0	Bosnian
15.0	Bulgarian

Your closest, however, is still MX299, who is closest to Swiss ITALIANS.

Distance to:	Torziok12b
12.59470127	MX299_Switzerland_LN
13.68046052	MX254_Switzerland_LN
14.25829232	MX259_Switzerland_LN
15.12795756	MX277_Switzerland_LN
15.35924152	SX18_Switzerland_LN
15.78438786	MX286_Switzerland_LN
15.93504628	SX20_Switzerland_LN
16.32076285	MX256_Switzerland_LN
16.67200948	MX283_Switzerland_LN
16.95557725	MX265_Switzerland_LN

 

[Angela]

Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè

15.76454566 MX299_Switzerland_LN
18.88334981 SX18_Switzerland_LN
20.03450523 MX254_Switzerland_LN
20.78851847 MX259_Switzerland_LN
20.97265362 MX265_Switzerland_LN
21.46425633 MX277_Switzerland_LN
21.58029425 MX256_Switzerland_LN
22.19705161 SX20_Switzerland_LN
22.86660666 MX286_Switzerland_LN
23.30195485 MX283_Switzerland_LN
23.74477206 MX258_Switzerland_LN
23.82370458 SX23_Switzerland_LN
25.44426458 MX270_Switzerland_LN
26.55677503 MX304_Switzerland_LN
26.59137266 MX288_Switzerland_LN
26.78406803 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
26.95482888 MX257_Switzerland_LN
27.06914664 SX29_Switzerland_LN
27.17863867 MX279_Switzerland_LN
27.20136577 MX280_Switzerland_LN
28.03234204 MX298_Switzerland_LN
28.52684175 MX251_Switzerland_LN
28.70033275 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
29.11064067 MX275_Switzerland_LN
29.37606509 MX252_Switzerland_LN


Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 14.7397% / 14.73968050 | ADC: 1x
86.8 MX299_Switzerland_LN
13.2 MX265_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 10.4435% / 10.44352352 | ADC: 0.5x
56.4 MX299_Switzerland_LN
26.0 MX310_Switzerland_LN
17.6 SX33_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.6825% / 5.68248183 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 SX33_Switzerland_LN
43.2 MX310_Switzerland_LN
9.6 MX259_Switzerland_LN

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.4129% / 5.41285129
49.8 SX33_Switzerland_LN
48.4 MX310_Switzerland_LN
1.8 MX199_Switzerland_LN

Interesting. Your first two matches are the same as mine, but you're further away.

Our first three targets are the same, but different percentages:

Mine:

Target: Angela Distance: 5.5702% / 5.57018636
53.2	SX33_Switzerland_LN
26.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN
16.8	MX259_Switzerland_LN
4.0	SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN

Yours:
Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 5.6825% / 5.68248183 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 SX33_Switzerland_LN
43.2 MX310_Switzerland_LN
9.6 MX259_Switzerland_LN

Somehow, it works out about the same.

 

[Angela]

Here is the PCA with the other West Eurasian populations:

So, as I suspected, of the ones who plot north of Italy, a few are French like, most are Austrian/Southern German like, so, slightly less than half steppe admixed.

Very interesting. Thanks a lot, Jovialis.

 

[torzio]

my father results

Distance to:	PonzanoK12b
11.99095075	MX299_Switzerland_LN
12.07759910	MX254_Switzerland_LN
13.96110669	MX259_Switzerland_LN
14.13974894	MX277_Switzerland_LN
14.82902896	SX20_Switzerland_LN
14.95393259	MX256_Switzerland_LN
15.19009546	MX265_Switzerland_LN
15.21205114	MX286_Switzerland_LN
15.37363002	SX18_Switzerland_LN
15.67921235	MX283_Switzerland_LN
16.02206291	SX23_Switzerland_LN
16.39046064	MX258_Switzerland_LN
17.94340547	MX270_Switzerland_LN
18.60260466	MX288_Switzerland_LN
19.17395108	MX279_Switzerland_LN
19.26081514	MX257_Switzerland_LN
19.29175731	MX280_Switzerland_LN
19.34657334	MX304_Switzerland_LN
19.63696769	SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
20.92076719	MX251_Switzerland_LN
21.05266729	MX298_Switzerland_LN
21.17522373	SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
21.57278378	MX252_Switzerland_LN
21.65160040	MX275_Switzerland_LN
22.80660211	MX190_Switzerland_LN

0.25

27.2	MX259_Switzerland_LN
24.0	SX33_Switzerland_LN
19.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN
14.6	MX299_Switzerland_LN
7.6	MX258_Switzerland_LN
7.6 1.0 57.8 MX299_Switzerland_LN 21.2 MX259_Switzerland_LN 11.8 MX254_Switzerland_LN 9.2 MX265_Switzerland_LN	MX265_Switzerland_LN

modern ydna T percentages in france
4% for each of these areas, Alsace, Auvegne, Provenzal
3% Lorraine ................others not sure

 

[Palermo Trapani]

Lots of Blue so went with plain text for the majority of Distances. Closest is the MX299 sample, which some others get as closest distance.

Distance to:	PalermoTrapani
25.97523821	MX299_Switzerland_LN
26.58357011	SX29_Switzerland_LN
27.99681053	SX18_Switzerland_LN

Distance to: PalermoTrapani
25.97523821 MX299_Switzerland_LN
26.58357011 SX29_Switzerland_LN
27.99681053 SX18_Switzerland_LN
29.62255053 SX33_Switzerland_LN
31.14237146 SX30_Switzerland_LN
33.02608817 MX254_Switzerland_LN
33.25111727 MX259_Switzerland_LN
33.49193933 MX277_Switzerland_LN
33.51097432 MX256_Switzerland_LN
33.90358536 MX219_Switzerland_LN
33.92261488 SX21_Switzerland_LN
33.99913381 MX265_Switzerland_LN
34.17789344 SX20_Switzerland_LN
34.20447632 SNPRA42_Switzerland_LN
34.83461784 MX286_Switzerland_LN
35.00164996 SX26_Switzerland_LN
35.29853538 MX283_Switzerland_LN
35.54556934 MX258_Switzerland_LN
36.83243136 SX23_Switzerland_LN
37.05432903 SX22_Switzerland_LN
37.27014221 MX270_Switzerland_LN
37.33768338 SX11_Switzerland_LN
37.59419902 SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
37.74839334 SNPRA62_Switzerland_LN
38.28890309 SX17_Switzerland_LN
38.49616604 SX9_Switzerland_LN
38.56552995 MX298_Switzerland_LN
38.74017037 MX204_Switzerland_LN
38.78414109 MX187_Switzerland_LN
38.91752690 MX257_Switzerland_LN
39.07906217 Aesch3_Switzerland_LN
39.13124455 MX203_Switzerland_LN
39.35531222 MX288_Switzerland_LN
39.38097129 Aesch14_Switzerland_LN
39.45354990 SNPRA57_Switzerland_LN
39.54317387 Aesch22_Switzerland_LN
39.54436749 SNPRA43_Switzerland_LN
39.62471199 Aesch16_Switzerland_LN
39.84930238 MX279_Switzerland_LN
39.92408797 MX304_Switzerland_LN
40.04324662 MX280_Switzerland_LN
40.29994789 MX251_Switzerland_LN
40.35691886 Aesch15_Switzerland_LN
40.37827510 MX275_Switzerland_LN
40.50635012 SNPRA59_Switzerland_LN
40.54562985 Aesch19_Switzerland_LN
40.75505613 SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
40.94959096 Aesch23_Switzerland_LN
41.05452959 Aesch17_Switzerland_LN
41.24143669 Aesch1_Switzerland_LN
41.30694978 MX252_Switzerland_LN
41.65464320 SNPRA54_Switzerland_LN
41.68549868 Aesch6_Switzerland_LN
41.72440772 Aesch4_Switzerland_LN
41.83201047 Aesch9_Switzerland_LN
41.91058339 MX190_Switzerland_LN
42.07815704 Aesch18_Switzerland_LN
42.10620263 Aesch13_Switzerland_LN
42.22071411 MX212_Switzerland_LN
42.22528271 Aesch5_Switzerland_LN
42.23456286 Aesch11_Switzerland_LN
42.32430153 MX150_Switzerland_LN
42.37008969 SNPRA58_Switzerland_LN
42.43240153 SX8_Switzerland_LN
42.81079887 SX32_Switzerland_LN
42.87908465 MX211_Switzerland_LN
42.89127534 Aesch12_Switzerland_LN
42.90282042 Aesch2_Switzerland_LN
43.06481975 SNPRA61_Switzerland_LN
43.11792783 MX182_Switzerland_LN
43.16211070 MX199_Switzerland_LN
43.23977104 MX188_Switzerland_LN
43.28382030 SNPRA44_Switzerland_LN
43.80892946 Aesch10_Switzerland_LN
44.02143682 MX310_Switzerland_LN
44.15374390 MX184_Switzerland_LN
44.31590008 MX209_Switzerland_LN
44.81347007 Aesch24_Switzerland_LN
44.97530433 Aesch7_Switzerland_LN
45.21769012 Aesch8_Switzerland_LN
45.48281544 SNPRA45_Switzerland_LN
46.16526183 MX198_Switzerland_LN
46.33609716 MX192_Switzerland_LN
46.40726775 MX196_Switzerland_LN
46.55722930 MX193_Switzerland_LN
46.92691339 Aesch21_Switzerland_LN
47.18655635 Aesch20_Switzerland_LN
47.24979471 MX189_Switzerland_LN
47.50544179 MX191_Switzerland_LN
47.63644193 MX195_Switzerland_LN
47.70062683 MX213_Switzerland_LN
47.74557466 SX10_Switzerland_LN
48.31336772 MX210_Switzerland_LN
48.55060865 MX197_Switzerland_LN
55.65608682 Aesch25_Switzerland_LN

Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 24.1743% / 24.17430239 | ADC: 2x
67.4	MX299_Switzerland_LN
32.6	SX29_Switzerland_LN

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Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 24.0018% / 24.00182670 | ADC: 1x
57.0	MX299_Switzerland_LN
43.0	SX29_Switzerland_LN

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Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 15.8723% / 15.87226742 | ADC: 0.5x
65.0	SX33_Switzerland_LN
35.0	MX310_Switzerland_LN

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Target: PalermoTrapani Distance: 15.7627% / 15.76269602 | ADC: 0.25x
62.8	SX33_Switzerland_LN
37.2	MX310_Switzerland_L

 

[halfalp]

So i tried a run with all outputs in default settings and i got those results.

Edit. Thanks for the help Jovialis!

Distance to:	Halfalp
4.80727574	MX259_Switzerland_LN
8.13357855	SX23_Switzerland_LN
8.40547441	MX254_Switzerland_LN
9.66446067	MX265_Switzerland_LN
11.30642738	MX286_Switzerland_LN
11.46779403	MX280_Switzerland_LN
11.71422639	MX277_Switzerland_LN
11.82873197	MX304_Switzerland_LN
12.07836496	MX288_Switzerland_LN
12.13449628	MX258_Switzerland_LN
12.54464029	MX279_Switzerland_LN
12.64113919	MX270_Switzerland_LN
12.93703212	MX257_Switzerland_LN
13.15909191	SX20_Switzerland_LN
13.19557881	MX283_Switzerland_LN
13.43546426	MX256_Switzerland_LN
13.86271618	MX190_Switzerland_LN
13.99943927	SNPRA64_Switzerland_LN
15.75844218	MX188_Switzerland_LN
15.78911017	SX32_Switzerland_LN
15.87203516	MX251_Switzerland_LN
15.93252648	MX252_Switzerland_LN
16.05621064	SNPRA63_Switzerland_LN
16.89101240	MX299_Switzerland_LN
17.23629891	MX275_Switzerland_LN

 

[Jovialis]

^You're welcome!