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    In the second picture I think she looks Iberian, but in the first picture she has a look of Bianca Balti, so I don't know. :) Maybe Portuguese with something else?









    More real life, but still gorgeous...



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    @Angela
    Wow! This Bianca is really beautiful.

    That Brazilian is Alessandra Ambrosio. Mostly Italian (likely North Italian, since she's from Rio Grande do Sul), with just the paternal grandmother Polish.


    Duarte already provided the tips for the second one. Ana Paula Arosio, full Italian in ancestry, it seems. The Arosio were from near Milano.


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    Camila Pitanga is very beautiful as well.

    She has a lot of SSA ancestry. Her father:


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    ^^Well, thank goodness I'm not totally losing my touch; there was something to the Bianca Balti reference. :) She's a high fashion model from Lombardia, by the way. So, yes, both with Northern Italian ancestry.

    Camila Pitanga also looks Italian to me; I see no SSA at all. Extraordinary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    ^^Well, thank goodness I'm not totally losing my touch; there was something to the Bianca Balti reference. :) She's a high fashion model from Lombardia, by the way. So, yes, both with Northern Italian ancestry.

    Camila Pitanga also looks Italian to me; I see no SSA at all. Extraordinary.
    Alessandra Ambrosio was also a super model, so they have this in common too.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessa...rósio_(model)

    Interview with Ana Paula Arosio:
    http://www.comunitaitaliana.com.br/E...tas/Arosio.htm

    As for Camila, yeah. That's why Duarte said that. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    More Brazilians

    Juliana Paes


    Camila Pitanga


    Deborah Secco

    Only Italian surname here is Secco ............55% in Veneto and 25% in Piedmonte , 10 % Lombardia .............of 680 italian households with that surname

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Alessandra Ambrosio was also a super model, so they have this in common too.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessa...rósio_(model)

    Interview with Ana Paula Arosio:
    http://www.comunitaitaliana.com.br/E...tas/Arosio.htm

    As for Camila, yeah. That's why Duarte said that. :)

    Ambrosio surname is 77% in Campania Italy

    Arosio surname is 91% in Lombardia Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ack View Post
    Não existe predomínio da genética germânica no sul. A UFMG já divulgou estudos demonstrando que de norte a sul a principal fonte europeia é ibérica e depois italiana. Existe predomínio germânico apenas em indivíduos isolados.
    That's exactly what I said in my previous comment: in the South the Iberian and Italian - Portuguese, Spanish and Italian - components are still dominant, the region already had about 8% of the population of the country before any massive non-Portuguese immigration started to come into the region (now it has about 14.5% of the country's population). There is also around 1/5 to 1/4 of people who self-declare as mixed-race/brown/pardo in the region. So, it's not the stereotype of "German blonde girls" that we sometimes hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    @Regio X.
    Wow. She's missing from television. She is also a very beautiful woman. I will never forget the character she played in the series Hilda Furacão, in which she played the protagonist which also featured the participation of Rodrigo Santoro and Matheus Nachtergaele and was filmed in my beloved Belo Horizonte. Well remembered. She is stunning.


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    Ana Paula Arósio as Hilda Furacão was so stunningly beautiful that I was a child back then but I was stunned by her beauty, and I remember even the women (who often tended to pretend being underwhelmed and disdainful of other beauties) in front of the TV commenting how it was possible she could be so beautiful. I don't think I've seen a "purer" type of beauty in a woman ever since. :-D Too bad she quit acting just a few years later, she didn't like fame and celebrity, being constantly under pressure and on the media, but I'm told she's very happy in the quiet life in a remote farm that she chose for her.

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    @torzio
    Yeah, I know that Juliana Paes and Camila Pitanga are not Italians in ancestry. They're only examples of Brazilian types, and very beautiful ones, I must say.
    Ambrosio is also in North Italy, despite it's more common in the South. Later I can check my books and try to find out where the Ambrosio in Rio Grande do Sul came from exactly.

    @Ygorcs
    That's a curious stereotype. I left the South time ago, and I myself had to explain a "thousand times" for other Brazilians (even to my wife) that these "light traits" are not the most common among "gaúchos", at all. They are more common just in some parts, but people do generalize.

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    @torzio
    Check "Senator Ambrosio" in Family Search. Birth in Cremona, Lombardy, and death in Rio Grande do Sul.

    @Ygorcs
    If I'm not mistaken, she left that farm, and lives now in England.

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    Some well known people from my home state, Ceará (northeastern part of the Northeastern region). As you can probably notice, since it's a an area of very old settlement, with very little immigration after the colonial era, the population is intensely mixed, with the European element prevailing, but significant Native American and African components very present in roughly equal proportions (in the inland, the so-called "sertão", the Native American element probably prevails over the African ones, whereas in the coast and especially in the mountainous areas the opposite happens). It's somewhat rare to find people who look really "African" unlike in Bahia, Alagoas, Pernambuco, Maranhão, Rio de Janeiro and some other states that saw massive import of slaves from Africa, unlike Ceará, where the economy was based mostly on pastoralism, subsistence agriculture and fishing, with no major demand for slaves. Likewise, you see few people who look truly "Amerindian", and not many people look completely "European" either. Curiously, in my opinion, some of the tri-racial hybridization ended up causing some cearenses to have a vaguely "South Asian" look.



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    Actress Florinda Bolkan (she had a successful careeer in Europe and especially Italy in the 1960s and 1970s)




    Actress and model Suyane Moreira


    Actress Iris Bustamante


    Miss Brazil 2014 Melissa Gurgel

    Singer Ana Ruth


    Actor Jesuíta Barbosa


    Actor José Wilker

    Singer Wesley Safadão (Wesley Oliveira, his real name)


    Singer and composer Fagner (of significant Lebanese ancestry)


    Singer and composer Belchior



    Politician and businessman Tasso Jereissati (also of significant Lebanese ancestry)

    Popular poet Bráulio Bessa (I think his is the quintessential look of people from the "sertão", the semi-arid hinterland of Ceará, the short but broad head and forehead, the tanned light brown skin, etc.)


    Comedian Tirulipa



    Comedian Tom Cavalcante


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygorcs View Post
    Ana Paula Arósio as Hilda Furacão was so stunningly beautiful that I was a child back then but I was stunned by her beauty, and I remember even the women (who often tended to pretend being underwhelmed and disdainful of other beauties) in front of the TV commenting how it was possible she could be so beautiful. I don't think I've seen a "purer" type of beauty in a woman ever since. :-D Too bad she quit acting just a few years later, she didn't like fame and celebrity, being constantly under pressure and on the media, but I'm told she's very happy in the quiet life in a remote farm that she chose for her.

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    She is indeed gorgeous, but I don't see anything of Naples in her, really. It's a more northern Italian beauty, as the records seem to indicate.

    Perhaps a bit of Silvana Mangano?



    Lucia Bose...I always thought there was a real purity to her beauty...


    Or even Virna Lisi before they bleached her hair?


    I don't usually like that, but it suited her. Good bones in a face last forever. :)



    If you want Neapolitan beauty...no one more beautiful than Luisa Ranieri, imo.

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    @Angela
    I didn't understand the mention of Naples.

    Edit: I think I got it. Torzio mentioned Campania, hence your comment. But he was referring to Ambrosio, not Arosio. Notice that Alessandra Ambrosio and Ana Paula Arosio are two different women. Both Lombard family names (Cremona and Milano, respectively), at least in this context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygorcs View Post
    Ana Paula Arósio as Hilda Furacão was so stunningly beautiful that I was a child back then but I was stunned by her beauty, and I remember even the women (who often tended to pretend being underwhelmed and disdainful of other beauties) in front of the TV commenting how it was possible she could be so beautiful. I don't think I've seen a "purer" type of beauty in a woman ever since. :-D Too bad she quit acting just a few years later, she didn't like fame and celebrity, being constantly under pressure and on the media, but I'm told she's very happy in the quiet life in a remote farm that she chose for her.

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    Yes @Ygorcs.
    Ana Paula is the owner of a unique beauty. The smile and girlishness combined with extreme sensuality and beauty enchanted Brazilians until the moment when she gave up her artistic life and went to live as an ordinary person on a farm in inland’s country. As you said, the pressure made her give up everything in exchange for a more peaceful life. Maybe I admire she even more for that. She did not allow herself to be seduced by fame and went looking for what was best for her. Happy are those who, like us, were able to see her for some time on the screens of our TVs in our homes.
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    From available data on 6,497 individuals from the three so-called cohorts that are part of the EPIGEN-Brazil initiative with scientists led by Eduardo Tarazona Santos, professor at the Institute of Biological Sciences at the Federal University of Minas Gerais (UFMG), they identified how much of the genome of each of them has a European, African or Native American (Amerindian) origin.


    Northeast Region:
    As expected, the population genes of the first cohort - 1,309 individuals from Salvador (BA) - have a great African ancestry (50.8%), followed by the European (42.9%) and Amerindian (6.4%).


    Southeast region:
    In the second cohort, composed of 1,442 people from the city of Bambuí, Minas Gerais, the vast majority of its genome is of European origin (78.5%), African (14.7%), and Amerindian (6.7%) .


    South region:
    Finally, in the third and last cohort, made up of 3,736 individuals born in Pelotas, the European genetic influence is (76.1%), with an African contribution (15.9%) and Amerindian contribution (8%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ack View Post
    From available data on 6,497 individuals from the three so-called cohorts that are part of the EPIGEN-Brazil initiative with scientists led by Eduardo Tarazona Santos, professor at the Institute of Biological Sciences at the Federal University of Minas Gerais (UFMG), they identified how much of the genome of each of them has a European, African or Native American (Amerindian) origin.

    Northeast Region:
    As expected, the population genes of the first cohort - 1,309 individuals from Salvador (BA) - have a great African ancestry (50.8%), followed by the European (42.9%) and Amerindian (6.4%).

    Southeast region:
    In the second cohort, composed of 1,442 people from the city of Bambuí, Minas Gerais, the vast majority of its genome is of European origin (78.5%), African (14.7%), and Amerindian (6.7%) .

    South region:
    Finally, in the third and last cohort, made up of 3,736 individuals born in Pelotas, the European genetic influence is (76.1%), with an African contribution (15.9%) and Amerindian contribution (8%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Brazil is really heterogeneous, and IIRC some studies focused just in capitals or in specific cities, not always representative of the states where they're located.
    Thanks for this, Ack. That's what I was talking about. Pelotas is far from the "colonial zone" (which is not representative as well*, in isolation), for example, concentrated in the north half of the state, but also in central RS. The distance from this area where the heritages are better known means that Pelotas is likely a good choice given the probable goal of the study.
    It shows how interesting Pelotas is under a genetic point of view. Why? Well, in 1814, Pelotas would have had 25000 blacks (slaves) and 32000 whites (mostly Iberians, likely), and the city is well known in Rio Grande do Sul as having the most important African influence in the state, even if that proportion didn't mantain, for obvious reasons. However, in 2010 a somewhat low % of "pelotenses" declared themselves black or mixed with, which would be, say, "counter-intuitive" (?). The study you posted kind of reinforce this important influence, despite the fact it deals with averages. The following article tries to explain this probable unrealistic demographic sense of 2010, in which the % of black (and mixed) dropped significantly compared to 2000:
    https://www.diariopopular.com.br/opi...oculta-106066/
    I'd risk to say that other cities in South half of the state apparently with less SSA, such Bagé, Santana do Livramento, Uruguaiana etc. could have more Native American influence than Pelotas?

    *I'm from an area called "Serra Gaúcha", which has its own peculiarities, i.e., it's not greatly representative not even of the half North as a whole.

    Btw, I'm not sure Iberian ancestry is the most common in the state of Santa Catarina as a whole, compared to the other heritages individually. Perhaps, but it's concentrated along the coast, with an "island" around Lages. In the rest of the state it may be not the majority. This is at least my perception.
    But of course, some people (and areas) are related in an important way to more than one ethnicity, which may complicate these "perceptions".
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    Deise Nunes, Miss Rio Grande do Sul in 1986, and the first black Miss Brazil



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    Other very famous people from Ceará

    Renato Aragão (comedian)



    Chico Anysio (comedian)



    Ciro Gomes (politician)



    Castello Branco (former president of Brazil, in military period)

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    Faces of Brazil

    In 2019, Miss Minas Gerais was elected Miss Brazil. In the Miss Universe contest, won by the representative of South Africa, she didn't get a great success and was only among the top 20. Despite this, she is a pretty woman and is a good representative of the “mineiro” type.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    In 2019, Miss Minas Gerais was elected Miss Brazil. In the Miss Universe contest, won by the representative of South Africa, she didn't get a great success and was only among the top 20. Despite this, she is a pretty woman and is a good representative of the “mineiro” type.







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    Wow! She's really pretty. I believe in Goiás there're many women with this type too.

    Still regarding Ana Paula Arosio, I believe this video shows well her beauty and "simpatia" (how do they call it in English?), in which she's interviewed by Xuxa (mentioned before). 18 years old.


    Now Xuxa, the interviewer, interviewed in her 27. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ack View Post
    Northeast Region:
    As expected, the population genes of the first cohort - 1,309 individuals from Salvador (BA) - have a great African ancestry (50.8%), followed by the European (42.9%) and Amerindian (6.4%).Attachment 11944
    See, Ack, why I pointed out that using people from Bahia and especially from coastal Bahia - as opposed to the inland "sertão" from Bahia - would not be very representative of the Northeast as a whole (and that wasn't to demean or diminish the good work you had done, just a necessary disclaimer for people who are not Brazilians and could be misled). This study you mentioned shows people from Salvador (BA), by far the largest city in Bahia, having a very distinct genetic profile than people in the Northeastern semi-arid region further north and west, which is often identified as the "quintessential" heart of the Northeast, as it was found in a paper (though frankly preliminary and IMO imperfect due to inadequate reference populations) released a couple of years ago:

    African: 50.8% in Salvador vs. 22.9% in the Northeastern semi-arid zone
    European: 42.9% in Salvador vs. 56.8% in the Northeastern semi-arid zone
    Amerindian: 6.4% in Salvador vs. 20.3% in the Northeastern semi-arid zone

    (https://tribunadoceara.com.br/notici...-que-africana/)

    Those different proportions certainly make a difference in the looks of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Wow! She's really pretty. I believe in Goiás there're many women with this type too.

    Still regarding Ana Paula Arosio, I believe this video shows well her beauty and "simpatia" (how do they call it in English?), in which she's interviewed by Xuxa (mentioned before). 18 years old.


    Now Xuxa, the interviewer, interviewed in her 27. :)
    WOW. Great videos @Regio X. Thanks for sharing. Very very cool. Two queens of beauty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    WOW. Great videos @Regio X. Thanks for sharing. Very very cool. Two queens of beauty.


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    Wow. Arosio is even more extraordinary looking in the moving image. Unique indeed. She seems like a pure soul; I hope she has had a good life.

    Now that I've seen this, I think Gigliola Cinquetti, also of Northern Italian ancestry, is of this type, although the eyes are very different. Cinquetti had, I think, the same "purity" and "sweetness".

    No, there's no exact translation for "simpatica" in English. :)



    You can see it better when she's singing or talking.

    With her Eurovision win...I'm Not Old Enough...almost a child...



    Charming and flirty...singing a folk song...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKQ4o9TJj4

    Btw, imho, Miss Brazil got robbed that year, and Iris Bustamante is gorgeous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Wow. Arosio is even more extraordinary looking in the moving image. Unique indeed. She seems like a pure soul; I hope she has had a good life.

    Now that I've seen this, I think Gigliola Cinquetti, also of Northern Italian ancestry, is of this type, although the eyes are very different. Cinquetti had, I think, the same "purity" and "sweetness".

    No, there's no exact translation for "simpatica" in English. :)



    You can see it better when she's singing or talking.

    With her Eurovision win...I'm Not Old Enough...almost a child...



    Charming and flirty...singing a folk song...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKQ4o9TJj4

    Btw, imho, Miss Brazil got robbed that year, and Iris Bustamante is gorgeous.
    Giglioga Cinquetti was indeed so lovely, her look and facial expressions convey a pure and unassuming simplicity that is rare to find in modern times, she's charming without even trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Wow. Arosio is even more extraordinary looking in the moving image. Unique indeed. She seems like a pure soul; I hope she has had a good life.

    Now that I've seen this, I think Gigliola Cinquetti, also of Northern Italian ancestry, is of this type, although the eyes are very different. Cinquetti had, I think, the same "purity" and "sweetness".

    No, there's no exact translation for "simpatica" in English. :)



    You can see it better when she's singing or talking.

    With her Eurovision win...I'm Not Old Enough...almost a child...



    Charming and flirty...singing a folk song...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKQ4o9TJj4

    Btw, imho, Miss Brazil got robbed that year, and Iris Bustamante is gorgeous.
    Thanks for sharing Angela. I love Gigliola Cinquetti. What a voice. What a beauty.

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