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  1. #26
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    Country: Spain

    @Archetype0ne

    The truth is that in Spain we miss Yogoslavia very much. People have lost interest in the area, they do not even place the mosaic, but well I imagine there is no turning back.


    Anyway, let's not fall into politics. Let us publish results in an innocent way, which is what characterizes us.


    ADCs are cycles within those thousand years, for example, it is very dangerous because your identity could be hidden.

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    Country: Spain

    G25 Modern Averages scaled, official datasheet

    Target: Karlos_scaled
    Distance: 1.0209% / 0.01020895
    27.6 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    23.8 CZE_Starounetice_EBA
    12.0 Iberia_North_IA
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    5.2 Bell_Beaker_Iberia_C
    4.8 HRV_EBA
    3.4 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
    2.6 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res
    2.6 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier
    2.4 IRL_MN
    2.2 MAR_EN
    2.0 Wales_N
    1.4 Levant_PPNC
    1.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.8 GEO_CHG
    0.4 CZE_En
    0.4 MAR_Taforalt
    0.4 TZA_PN
    0.2 ZAF_2100BP

    Target: Karlos_scaled
    Distance: 1.3665% / 0.01366452 | ADC: 0.25x
    62.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    8.8 CZE_Starounetice_EBA
    7.8 Spanish_Menorca
    7.4 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier
    4.4 Bell_Beaker_Iberia_C
    3.8 Iberia_Southwest_BA
    2.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
    1.2 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
    1.0 GEO_CHG
    0.8 TZA_PN




    Code:
    Distance to: Karlos_scaled
    0.02008536 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02180489 Spanish_Galicia
    0.02231244 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.02269035 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.02312202 Portuguese
    0.02489288 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02490052 Spanish_Menorca
    0.02522834 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.02553041 Spanish_Aragon
    0.02585001 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02603826 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.02618920 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.02618944 Spanish_Alacant
    0.02619990 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.02712183 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02722912 Spanish_Baleares
    0.02793500 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.02795867 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.02815267 Spanish_Murcia
    0.02822339 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.02842729 Spanish_Castello
    0.02852608 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02860053 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.02901544 Spanish_Penedes
    0.02905788 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.02921315 Spanish_Girona
    0.02979956 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.03252786 Spanish_Navarra
    0.03269467 French_South
    0.03397176 Spanish_Asturias
    0.03426806 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
    0.03490586 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
    0.03557673 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier
    0.03685931 DEU_Roman
    0.03729018 French_Auvergne
    0.03861764 French_Provence
    0.03877040 Spanish_Soria
    0.03903458 Spanish_La_Rioja
    0.03951440 French_Occitanie
    0.03973633 Swiss_French
    0.04008978 Bell_Beaker_CHE
    0.04011372 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.04019499 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.04065076 Iberia_North_IA
    0.04111952 Spanish_Canarias
    0.04171394 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.04190514 Basque_French
    0.04242186 Iberia_East_IA
    0.04475970 Italian_Veneto
    0.04529373 Basque_Spanish
    0.04545366 Italian_Liguria
    0.04552132 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04571920 Iberia_Menorca_LBA
    0.04680083 Italian_Lombardy
    0.04699128 ITA_Etruscan
    0.04720174 Levant_LBN_MA_o6
    0.04723705 DEU_Lech_MBA
    0.04792195 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
    0.04819336 Bell_Beaker_ITA
    0.04828567 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.04849533 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    0.04890870 Iberia_Formentera_MBA
    0.04956931 Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
    0.04957232 Iberia_Mallorca_EBA
    0.04986042 Swiss_German
    0.04991628 Italian_Northeast
    0.05056169 French_Paris
    0.05078963 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
    0.05088488 French_Corsica
    0.05092957 Italian_Piedmont
    0.05210484 Swiss_Italian
    0.05310512 HRV_MBA
    0.05326481 French_Alsace
    0.05333265 French_Nord
    0.05357791 Iberia_North_BA
    0.05358798 ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA
    0.05364093 Iberia_Northeast_RomP
    0.05419224 HRV_EBA
    0.05452984 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.05461104 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
    0.05636289 Belgian
    0.05647937 ITA_Collegno_MA
    0.05685822 Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp
    0.05699108 Scythian_HUN
    0.05726834 Italian_Tuscany
    0.05796874 Iberia_Southwest_BA
    0.05797365 ITA_Villanovan
    0.05821535 Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr
    0.05837861 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
    0.05845554 Iberia_Central_BA
    0.05850472 ITA_Rome_MA
    0.05869376 Iberia_Northeast_BA
    0.05898245 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    0.05909606 HUN_BA
    0.05921644 HRV_IA
    0.05953338 DEU_Lech_EBA
    0.05958917 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
    0.05986692 DEU_Lech_BBC
    0.06016241 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.06031653 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.06111099 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
    0.06147235 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
    0.06269271 Levant_LBN_MA_o2
    0.06305839 Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
    0.06396123 Iberia_Southeast_BA
    0.06446243 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.06451023 HUN_MA
    0.06537291 Afrikaner
    0.06567410 Italian_Umbria
    0.06572700 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
    0.06572764 Romanian
    0.06583042 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
    0.06601489 French_Brittany
    0.06608240 Italian_Marche
    0.06625219 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
    0.06635313 DEU_MA_ACD
    0.06654251 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.06777074 BGR_EBA
    0.06786678 Greek_Thessaly
    0.06875644 Scythian_MDA
    0.06888937 Bulgarian
    0.06926932 Moldovan
    0.06942351 Austrian
    0.06954428 HUN_Avar_Period
    0.06958885 Italian_Lazio
    0.07009999 ITA_Sardinia_MA
    0.07027081 Montenegrin
    0.07070820 Albanian
    0.07071378 HUN_LBA
    0.07089574 Bell_Beaker_HUN
    0.07103931 Serbian
    0.07112120 Bell_Beaker_CZE
    0.07141790 German
    0.07147361 Gagauz
    0.07204023 Macedonian
    0.07238736 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    0.07260373 Welsh
    0.07277272 English_Cornwall
    0.07285842 Sicilian_West
    0.07433533 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
    0.07439347 ITA_Sardinia_IA
    0.07477139 English
    0.07519166 England_Roman
    0.07586983 ITA_Sicily_EBA
    0.07617614 ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance
    0.07647955 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
    0.07675577 Bell_Beaker_Iberia
    0.07688595 Italian_Abruzzo
    0.07736890 Italian_Molise
    0.07797339 Orcadian
    0.07812947 Scottish
    0.07828393 Dutch
    0.07854790 Croatian
    0.07901895 BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA
    0.07902687 England_IA
    0.07908408 Bell_Beaker_FRA_lowSteppe
    0.07923901 Bell_Beaker_POL
    0.07932981 Hungarian
    0.08024596 Irish
    0.08054410 Slovenian
    0.08055514 Bosnian
    0.08125213 ITA_Etruscan_o
    0.08151249 DEU_MA
    0.08221796 DEU_Alberstedt_LN
    0.08262233 SVK_Poprad_MA
    0.08285938 ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
    0.08292518 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.08295827 Italian_Apulia
    0.08312490 Scotland_LBA
    0.08359948 SWE_Ollsjo_BA
    0.08395461 Roma_Barcelona
    0.08418417 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
    0.08438398 Sicilian_East
    0.08441782 Shetlandic
    0.08450208 Levant_LBN_MA_o4
    0.08461453 Italian_Basilicata
    0.08474583 BGR_MP_N
    0.08488244 Danish
    0.08492763 Maltese
    0.08542100 German_East
    0.08597138 Greek_Izmir
    0.08619323 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
    0.08634142 Scotland_MBA
    0.08657420 England_MBA
    0.08708501 SWE_Megalithic_Ansarve
    0.08731051 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
    0.08738296 Scotland_CA_EBA
    0.08750485 Ashkenazi_Russia
    0.08752891 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
    0.08761836 Italian_Campania
    0.08762577 UKR_Trypillia_En
    0.08803563 BGR_IA
    0.08870207 UKR_Globular_Amphora
    0.08882137 Norwegian
    0.08899834 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2
    0.08927187 Ashkenazi_Poland
    0.08942611 POL_Globular_Amphora
    0.08947246 Turkish_Balkans
    0.08965596 Czech
    0.08994037 Icelandic
    0.09010190 England_Saxon
    0.09030794 England_CA_EBA
    0.09071765 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
    0.09073771 USA_colonial_period
    0.09082208 CZE_Bilina_BA
    0.09086866 Anatolia_IA_low_res
    0.09118069 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o
    0.09158715 HUN_MA_Szolad_o1
    0.09162961 CZE_Unetice_EBA
    0.09186500 DNK_BA
    0.09201131 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
    0.09247941 Swedish
    0.09248004 Italian_Calabria
    0.09252204 IND_Roopkund_B
    0.09252795 England_LBA
    0.09252817 SWE_LN
    0.09257429 SWE_BA
    0.09294923 ITA_Sardinia_Roman_Imperial
    0.09331671 SWE_TRB
    0.09360637 Sardinian
    0.09364513 DNK_LN
    0.09364527 England_EMBA
    0.09375562 HUN_Mako_EBA
    0.09398436 ITA_Olmo_di_Nogara_MBA
    0.09405915 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
    0.09412504 Wales_CA_EBA
    0.09440623 ITA_Sardinia_EMA
    0.09453407 CZE_Starounetice_EBA
    0.09464230 IRL_BA
    0.09532914 BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N
    0.09586523 SWE_IA
    0.09622464 Yamnaya_BGR
    0.09626956 Ashkenazi_Germany
    0.09628639 UKR_Trypillia
    0.09665615 CZE_Early_Slav
    0.09686106 Scythian_MDA_o
    0.09729190 DEU_Unetice_EBA
    0.09783910 NLD_BA
    0.09819837 DEU_Welzin_BA
    0.09842331 Bell_Beaker_FRA
    0.09896475 DNK_MN_B
    0.09936819 IRL_MN
    0.09951591 ITA_Sicily_LBA
    0.10025186 Slovakian
    To firs 0.1

    Tarofalt I do not know why it comes out I have checked the SNPs and I do not have them. In that cave I have not been I will have been in others but not in that one.

  3. #28
    Regular Member Aspar's Avatar
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    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Ethnic group
    Macedonian
    Country: Lesotho

    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    I have a feeling as these tests become more mainstream... I hope they do... People with a brain in the Balkans will realize how related we are to each-other and will abandon radical nationalism.

    I am interested to see your "0 - 1000 BCE (Iron Age) G25 Calculator" Aspar.




    Also what area of North Macedonia are you from? Based on your results I would guess south? I wonder if North-East of North Macedonia is more slavicezed. Cause based on your results we are pretty close autosomally. And I wonder if that would be the case for me and most other slavic-Macedonians, or whether you are an outlier.
    Hello Archetype0ne,

    You are right, these tests confirm that there is a great relatedness among people of different ethnic groups in the Balkans, especially in Macedonia, a region which has been a home place of people of many different backgrounds. However I am not sure that most people will realize that or even if they do, that will not change their attitude towards the 'enemy' simply because of two reasons mostly, low education and poverty, a perfect playground for various manipulators and world world warmongers.

    Anyway, this is the calculator you requested:

    Distance to: Aspar_scaled
    0.04355151 ILLYRIAN
    0.04701688 MACEDONIAN
    0.05742922 PANNONIAN
    0.08026366 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    0.08220782 GREEK
    0.08991798 PONTIC
    0.09250039 PONTIC-BALTIC
    0.09402232 CELTIC-NORTHWEST
    0.09974133 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    0.10232333 IBERIAN
    0.11492079 ANATOLIAN
    0.11622831 ALANIC
    0.12368056 NORDIC
    0.13758197 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    0.13992689 CENTRAL-EUROPEAN-PONTIC
    0.14608191 CIMMERIAN
    0.14739344 EASTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15110317 SARMATIAN
    0.15607451 SARMATIAN-POKROVKA
    0.15723197 SARMATIAN-WEST
    0.15777001 LEVANTINE
    0.15807115 SARMATIAN-URALS
    0.16102239 CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN
    0.17396364 BALTIC
    0.18776148 SOUTH-SIBERIAN

    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.3265% / 0.02326500 | ADC: 0.25x
    44.2 MACEDONIAN
    26.0 ILLYRIAN
    13.8 BALTIC
    7.0 LEVANTINE
    4.0 PANNONIAN
    3.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    1.6 PONTIC-BALTIC



    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.2146% / 0.02214597
    37.2 MACEDONIAN
    27.2 ILLYRIAN
    18.8 BALTIC
    10.0 LEVANTINE
    4.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    2.4 GREEK

    I come from the south-east and no, I am not an outlier. I've seen quite a lot of results of ethnic Macedonians and I can tell you that there is a cline that runs from north-east to south-west. The west of the country is more southern European influenced than the East, while the people from the north-east are the most northern European influenced.

    This is me modeled along the west-east and north-south axis(unscaled):


    Target: Aspar
    Distance: 1.5341% / 0.01534078
    51.0 Bulgarian
    49.0 Albanian

    Target: Aspar
    Distance: 1.3339% / 0.01333855
    56.0 Greek_Peloponnese
    44.0 Serbian


    Generally the results follow geography which is no surprise for me because almost all of my ancestors in the past two hundred years come from that aforementioned region.



    Target: Aspar
    Distance: 1.5341% / 0.01534078
    51.0 Bulgarian
    49.0 Albanian

  4. #29
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    J2b2-L283/FT29003

    Country: Albania

    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Hello Archetype0ne,

    You are right, these tests confirm that there is a great relatedness among people of different ethnic groups in the Balkans, especially in Macedonia, a region which has been a home place of people of many different backgrounds. However I am not sure that most people will realize that or even if they do, that will not change their attitude towards the 'enemy' simply because of two reasons mostly, low education and poverty, a perfect playground for various manipulators and world world warmongers.

    Anyway, this is the calculator you requested:

    Distance to: Aspar_scaled
    0.04355151 ILLYRIAN
    0.04701688 MACEDONIAN
    0.05742922 PANNONIAN
    0.08026366 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    0.08220782 GREEK
    0.08991798 PONTIC
    0.09250039 PONTIC-BALTIC
    0.09402232 CELTIC-NORTHWEST
    0.09974133 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    0.10232333 IBERIAN
    0.11492079 ANATOLIAN
    0.11622831 ALANIC
    0.12368056 NORDIC
    0.13758197 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    0.13992689 CENTRAL-EUROPEAN-PONTIC
    0.14608191 CIMMERIAN
    0.14739344 EASTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15110317 SARMATIAN
    0.15607451 SARMATIAN-POKROVKA
    0.15723197 SARMATIAN-WEST
    0.15777001 LEVANTINE
    0.15807115 SARMATIAN-URALS
    0.16102239 CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN
    0.17396364 BALTIC
    0.18776148 SOUTH-SIBERIAN

    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.3265% / 0.02326500 | ADC: 0.25x
    44.2 MACEDONIAN
    26.0 ILLYRIAN
    13.8 BALTIC
    7.0 LEVANTINE
    4.0 PANNONIAN
    3.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    1.6 PONTIC-BALTIC



    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.2146% / 0.02214597
    37.2 MACEDONIAN
    27.2 ILLYRIAN
    18.8 BALTIC
    10.0 LEVANTINE
    4.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    2.4 GREEK

    I come from the south-east and no, I am not an outlier. I've seen quite a lot of results of ethnic Macedonians and I can tell you that there is a cline that runs from north-east to south-west. The west of the country is more southern European influenced than the East, while the people from the north-east are the most northern European influenced.

    This is me modeled along the west-east and north-south axis(unscaled):


    Target: Aspar
    Distance: 1.5341% / 0.01534078
    51.0 Bulgarian
    49.0 Albanian

    Target: Aspar
    Distance: 1.3339% / 0.01333855
    56.0 Greek_Peloponnese
    44.0 Serbian


    Generally the results follow geography which is no surprise for me because almost all of my ancestors in the past two hundred years come from that aforementioned region.



    Target: Aspar
    Distance: 1.5341% / 0.01534078
    51.0 Bulgarian
    49.0 Albanian
    Very interesting Aspar, thanks for sharing.

    It seems our Illyrian component is fairly similar based on this calculator. However you have more than 2ce greater Macedonian component with very little Greek. While my Macedonian components is ~ around the same as my Greek component at 16.

    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 2.5956% / 0.02595642
    32.0 ILLYRIAN
    16.8 MACEDONIAN
    15.6 GREEK
    13.8 PONTIC-BALTIC
    11.2 LEVANTINE
    8.6 BALTIC
    1.8 EAST-HUNNIC-MONGOLIAN
    0.2 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN


    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.2146% / 0.02214597
    37.2 MACEDONIAN
    27.2 ILLYRIAN
    18.8 BALTIC
    10.0 LEVANTINE
    4.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    2.4 GREEK
    Also seems that if you add up my Pontic Baltic and Baltic components ~23% it is similar to your Baltic makeup at 19%. Our levantine is also on a similar level.

    Given the results I would speculate there is a high chance our very far ancestors fought in the same armies during Alexanders time.
    “Man cannot live without a permanent trust in something indestructible in himself, and at the same time that indestructible something as well as his trust in it may remain permanently concealed from him.”

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  5. #30
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia

    I have ....scaled

    Distance to: Torzio_scaled
    0.03715835 ILLYRIAN
    0.05075501 PANNONIAN
    0.05341708 MACEDONIAN
    0.06230413 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    0.07747489 CELTIC-NORTHWEST
    0.08020225 IBERIAN
    0.08581909 GREEK
    0.09104731 PONTIC-BALTIC
    0.09354403 PONTIC
    0.09611852 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    0.10854728 NORDIC
    0.12538788 ALANIC
    0.12699989 ANATOLIAN
    0.13944909 CENTRAL-EUROPEAN-PONTIC
    0.14610398 CIMMERIAN
    0.15021994 SARMATIAN
    0.15170976 EASTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15538324 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15798019 SARMATIAN-WEST
    0.15994005 SARMATIAN-POKROVKA
    0.16145721 SARMATIAN-URALS
    0.16579585 CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN
    0.17024720 LEVANTINE
    0.17199542 BALTIC
    0.18645224 SOUTH-SIBERIAN


    a big gap between 1st and 2nd



    I believe by my results above, I could say that Illyrian is from modern austria and slovenia ..............................they should have split Illyrian into Dalmatian, Liburnian and maybe even Epirote , because they also had Pannonian which are Illyrians ...............confusing split

    .................................................. ...................................

    and unscaled is below ................

    Distance to: Torzio
    0.12569364 ANATOLIAN
    0.13278434 CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN
    0.13564108 PONTIC
    0.13639964 SAKA-KYRGYZSTAN
    0.13719053 STEPPE-NOMADS
    0.13819181 CIMMERIAN
    0.14079516 SARMATIAN
    0.14220998 SARMATIAN-WEST
    0.14506702 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    0.14741838 HUNNIC-CENTRAL-ASIAN
    0.15036552 SOUTH-SIBERIAN
    0.15571808 SARMATIAN-URALS
    0.15834807 SAKA-KAZAKHSTAN
    0.15927082 ALANIC
    0.16040918 SARMATIAN-POKROVKA
    0.16195868 EASTERN-IRANIAN
    0.17634166 PANNONIAN
    0.18155810 EURASIAN-ARCTIC
    0.18178521 MACEDONIAN
    0.18297449 GREEK
    0.18398801 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    0.18411418 ALTAI
    0.18470837 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    0.18563118 ILLYRIAN
    0.18619443 SWAT-VALLEY


    Central Asian ( kazaks ) matches other programs for myself .....................although I only ever get anatolian by only one company ie, ftdna at 8%
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4p
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
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    Country: Italy

    G25 0-1000 BCE (Iron Age) scaled

    Distance to: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled

    0.04134724 ILLYRIAN
    0.04239495 MACEDONIAN
    0.06832972 GREEK
    0.07021773 PANNONIAN
    0.08262621 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    0.08922004 IBERIAN
    0.09783038 CELTIC-NORTHWEST
    0.10015889 PONTIC
    0.10623767 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    0.11073562 PONTIC-BALTIC
    0.11894610 ALANIC
    0.12158893 ANATOLIAN
    0.12904906 NORDIC
    0.14346839 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15467633 LEVANTINE
    0.15576423 CENTRAL-EUROPEAN-PONTIC
    0.15592685 EASTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15600979 CIMMERIAN
    0.16108678 SARMATIAN
    0.16822059 SARMATIAN-WEST
    0.17115920 SARMATIAN-URALS
    0.17133571 SARMATIAN-POKROVKA
    0.17304941 CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN
    0.19098423 BALTIC
    0.19483275 STEPPE-NOMADS

    Target: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled
    Distance: 3.6308% / 0.03630761 | ADC: 1x
    55.0 ILLYRIAN
    45.0 MACEDONIAN

    Target: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled
    Distance: 3.3712% / 0.03371182 | ADC: 0.5x
    52.2 MACEDONIAN
    33.0 ILLYRIAN
    10.4 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    3.4 GREEK
    1.0 PANNONIAN-PONTIC

    Target: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled
    Distance: 2.9819% / 0.02981866 | ADC: 0.25x
    36.4 MACEDONIAN
    20.8 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    19.6 GREEK
    14.8 ILLYRIAN
    3.2 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    2.8 LEVANTINE
    1.6 BALTIC
    0.8 ALANIC

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    Very interesting results guys.
    @ Torzio you are right, the categories are a bit confusing. Maybe because Illyrian was a term depicting various groups of people that might or might not have been related over a specific geographic location. In my opinion, and I suspect others will agree, Illyrian meant something totally different to Illyri prorie dicti when it was incorporated by the Romans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._proprie_dicti

    @Stuvane

    I still can not wrap my head at how much ADC changes the results...
    Would be interesting if they added more categories to the calculator... not sure what they would be, but 0-1000 BCE had plenty of people already in Italy, Iberia and Central Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Very interesting results guys.
    @ Torzio you are right, the categories are a bit confusing. Maybe because Illyrian was a term depicting various groups of people that might or might not have been related over a specific geographic location. In my opinion, and I suspect others will agree, Illyrian meant something totally different to Illyri prorie dicti when it was incorporated by the Romans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._proprie_dicti

    @Stuvane

    I still can not wrap my head at how much ADC changes the results...
    Would be interesting if they added more categories to the calculator... not sure what they would be, but 0-1000 BCE had plenty of people already in Italy, Iberia and Central Europe.
    Moving on with the term you indicated
    Illyrii proprie dicti[118] were the Illyrians proper, so called by Pliny (23–79 AD) in his Natural History. They later formed the Docleatae. They were the Taulantii, the Pleraei or Pyraei, the Endirudini, Sasaei, Grabaei, Labeatae.
    These are now found to be all Dardanian tribes ( modern Kosovo lands) .................so as I stated the term Illyrian for this program is not clear
    On these tribes , if you read Taulantii history, they moved from modern Kosovo to modern north Albania , they got attacked too often by Dalmatians from Montenegro or north of this........they, over their history sort alliances with Macedonia and later the Romans ( from 212BC ) to kerb any Dalmatian aggression

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Very interesting Aspar, thanks for sharing.

    It seems our Illyrian component is fairly similar based on this calculator. However you have more than 2ce greater Macedonian component with very little Greek. While my Macedonian components is ~ around the same as my Greek component at 16.

    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.2146% / 0.02214597
    37.2 MACEDONIAN
    27.2 ILLYRIAN
    18.8 BALTIC
    10.0 LEVANTINE
    4.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    2.4 GREEK
    Also seems that if you add up my Pontic Baltic and Baltic components ~23% it is similar to your Baltic makeup at 19%. Our levantine is also on a similar level.

    Given the results I would speculate there is a high chance our very far ancestors fought in the same armies during Alexanders time.
    Tbh with you, don't give too much attention to these calculators.
    They are all made by various ordinary forum users like me and you. They are basically relying on G25 made by Davidski and his spreadsheets which there is nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is naming these categories as 'Macedonian', 'Illyrian' etc. First of all there are no any ancient Macedonian samples that we are aware of so this is basically made up category and shouldn't be taken seriously.

    My bet is that all these admixture and G25 based calculators don't tell much. You can see the general picture but it's superficial and not detailed much. In order to see if you really have an ancestry inherited from a specific ancient group of people, the IBD sharing is the most important. The problem with it is that it's basically the most effective for a recently shared ancestry and it's hard to detect when you make comparisons with ancient samples because of the recombination process of DNA with every new generation.

    Of course the other method of detecting a direct inheritance of ancestry of a specific group of ancient people is with analyzing uniparental markers such as y-dna or mt-dna. For this we need high quality samples with very good coverage that can read a high amount of mutations. This process is slow and it takes a lot of time to do this but we can see that the amount of publications regarding ancient dna is getting higher year by year which is a good sign.

    Anyway, before I deleted my Gedmatch kit I used to compare my sample with ancient samples for matching segments and was interesting to see a couple of ancient samples with whom I share matching segments among who I share largest segments with:
    1.M828815 RISE552_Yamnaya - 2.7cM
    2.M655536 I0231 Yamnaya - 1.5cM
    3.M343758 I0443 Yamnaya R1b-L23 - 4.1cM
    4.F999968 RISE548,Russia,~2ky - 1.3cM
    5.MW2273712 Bronze Age Bulgaria I2163 R1a-Z93 - 3.3cM
    6.RL6378186 I4331 MBA Croatia J2b2a - 3.2cM
    7.JD6924634 I5769 Iron Age Bulgaria (500-400 BC) - 3.9cM
    8.SZ6386770 I3313 Dalmatia Bronze Age - 2.6cM
    9.FP8983383 Avar-Szolad *Av2 - 2.9cM
    10.PE7910098 Avar Szolad *Av1 R1b-L51 - 2.0cM
    11.M581678 *Motala12 - 1.8cM
    12.M719407 (Minoan Lasithi) - 2.4cM
    13.Z936555 (DA382 TurkmenistanIA) - 1.8cM
    14.M853162 (DA89 Turk) - 2.4cM
    15.Z020190 (MA2200 Kalehoyuk c. 1750 BCE) - 2.2cM
    16.AD9975805 (I1819 Mesolithic Ukraine 1st oldest R1a) - 0.7cM
    17.Z040596 (*Boncuklu002) - 1.0cM
    18.T005824 (Sunghir6 Vladimir Rusin circa 1160AD) - 2.8cM
    19.F999916 (LBK, Stuttgart, 7ky) 5500 ybp - 4.5cM(This sample, a chalcolithic farmer from LBK Stuttgart is matched by almost all modern European people for some reason)
    20.M178367 (Loschbour) 6000 ybp - 4.8cM( This samples is matched by most European people as well)

    Also worth mentioning is the very close deep dive match on MTA with a Mycenaean...

    Overall the picture is very complex and not at all simplistic as most of these calculators based on G25 and admixture show to us but according to these matching segments I did have ancestors among the ancient Balkan people as well as among the early Slavs but also among some Turkics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Very interesting results guys.
    @ Torzio you are right, the categories are a bit confusing. Maybe because Illyrian was a term depicting various groups of people that might or might not have been related over a specific geographic location. In my opinion, and I suspect others will agree, Illyrian meant something totally different to Illyri prorie dicti when it was incorporated by the Romans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._proprie_dicti

    @Stuvane

    I still can not wrap my head at how much ADC changes the results...
    Would be interesting if they added more categories to the calculator... not sure what they would be, but 0-1000 BCE had plenty of people already in Italy, Iberia and Central Europe.

    @Archetype0ne

    I don't know the secrets of ADC either, but it certainly has the utility of better aggregating the results and making them statistically understandable. With a value of zero, the autosomal proximity is maximum, but the quotas are often divided between a considerable number of samples and the practical utility is minimal. Increasing the ADC value gradually loses precision in an autosomal proximity, but it is easier to understand the main reference groups, their plots and hypothesize their admixtures. In my opinion the best results are obtained with ADC at 0.25 and 0.50. The value of 1 is a little less effective, but still useful. With a value of 2 no, the average is rounded off too roughly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    @Archetype0ne

    I don't know the secrets of ADC either, but it certainly has the utility of better aggregating the results and making them statistically understandable. With a value of zero, the autosomal proximity is maximum, but the quotas are often divided between a considerable number of samples and the practical utility is minimal. Increasing the ADC value gradually loses precision in an autosomal proximity, but it is easier to understand the main reference groups, their plots and hypothesize their admixtures. In my opinion the best results are obtained with ADC at 0.25 and 0.50. The value of 1 is a little less effective, but still useful. With a value of 2 no, the average is rounded off too roughly
    Thanks a lot Stuvanè. I was trying to google my way into info about this but had no luck. Your explanation is very useful.

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    NEW ph2ter's New Roman-Medieval unscaled calc on Vahaduo

    http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Ph2te...Calculator.htm

    mine

    Target: Lukasz
    Distance: 0.9568% / 0.00956826 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.6 BALTO-SLAVIC
    31.4 BALTIC
    7.8 IBERIAN
    7.2 LEVANTINE
    1.8 ETRUSCAN
    0.6 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    0.4 CELTO-NORSE
    0.2 OLD-LATIN
    G25 Maps
    K36 Ancestral Report & Chromosomal Analysis & Heat Maps

    https://www.lm-genetics.com


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    Target: KARLOS
    Distance: 0.8615% / 0.00861453 | ADC: 0.25x
    46.6 AQUITANIAN
    26.8 IBERIAN
    11.6 LUSITANIAN
    6.8 ALANIC
    3.2 CANARIAN
    2.8 CELTO-NORSE
    1.8 KENYA
    0.2 CELTIC
    0.2 EAST-ASIAN

    Target: KARLOS
    Distance: 0.7334% / 0.00733362
    34.2 LUSITANIAN
    25.2 AQUITANIAN
    11.4 ALANIC
    11.2 CELTO-NORSE
    8.6 CANARIAN
    4.8 IBERIAN
    1.8 KENYA
    1.2 JAPAN-JOMON
    1.0 CELTIC
    0.4 EAST-ASIAN
    0.2 HUNS

    OMG
    I am Japanese

    Distance to: KARLOS
    0.01661566 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
    0.01923460 IBERIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3585
    0.01940670 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b
    0.01964892 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
    0.02149000 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
    0.02178164 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
    0.02221869 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
    0.02336300 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
    0.02422684 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
    0.02428683 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3320
    0.02478689 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214
    0.02529901 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203
    0.02554545 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
    0.02615091 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
    0.02665127 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
    0.02736768 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3582
    0.02899414 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339
    0.02911666 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
    0.02923217 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
    0.02959290 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE:I3983
    0.02992691 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I7673
    0.03019768 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
    0.03060850 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.03067344 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3323
    0.03081590 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    0.03093913 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
    0.03126931 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3981
    0.03139459 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3581
    0.03166307 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
    0.03173752 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
    0.03192178 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3321
    0.03210950 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    0.03227460 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ43
    0.03234672 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12644
    0.03235892 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I12410
    0.03262974 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
    0.03292977 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ36
    0.03387329 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12647
    0.03404541 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
    0.03416255 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
    0.03426325 CELTO-GERMANIC:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
    0.03496656 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
    0.03506095 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7457
    0.03581494 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
    0.03613641 BALKANIC-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ37
    0.03624969 CELTO-GERMANIC:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ12
    0.03698486 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113
    0.03732533 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1544
    0.03737566 IBERIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3324
    0.03749520 CELTO-GERMANICEU_MA:ALH_1

    To 50 Samples

    The Guanche samples must already be Guanches mixed with Spaniards.


    Target: CANARIAN:Canary_Islands_Guanche:gun005
    Distance: 2.0578% / 0.02057821
    59.2 Berber_MAR_TIZ
    22.8 Spanish_Soria
    7.4 BedouinB
    6.8 Agta
    3.2 Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.6 Yukpa


    Target: CANARIAN:Canary_Islands_Guanche:gun008
    Distance: 1.4764% / 0.01476436
    30.8 Berber_MAR_ERR
    25.2 Saharawi
    23.2 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
    17.0 Spanish_Asturias
    1.2 Vizayan
    0.8 Ethiopian_Agaw
    0.6 Mbuti
    0.6 Mozabite
    0.4 Koinanbe
    0.2 Dusun

    E.t.c

    More than anything because my family has never told me about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    NEW ph2ter's New Roman-Medieval unscaled calc on Vahaduo


    http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Ph2te...Calculator.htm

    mine

    Target: Lukasz
    Distance: 0.9568% / 0.00956826 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.6 BALTO-SLAVIC
    31.4 BALTIC
    7.8 IBERIAN
    7.2 LEVANTINE
    1.8 ETRUSCAN
    0.6 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    0.4 CELTO-NORSE
    0.2 OLD-LATIN

    thanks

    Distance to: Torzio_scaled
    0.17451211 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    0.17496871 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
    0.17506475 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    0.17608387 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
    0.17619137 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
    0.17637638 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
    0.17653383 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b
    0.17655620 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
    0.17667912 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.17684498 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
    0.17694199 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
    0.17710001 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I7673
    0.17712213 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
    0.17728482 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
    0.17740955 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
    0.17745555 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
    0.17751713 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
    0.17768995 SARDINIAN:ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
    0.17778308 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
    0.17799559 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3323
    0.17809366 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
    0.17820148 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113
    0.17823544 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
    0.17827196 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
    0.17833682 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3320


    still get ingria
    Target: Torzio_scaled
    Distance: 17.4009% / 0.17400903 | ADC: 0.25x
    39.2 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    27.6 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
    18.6 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    11.6 GERMANIC:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97026
    3.0 BALTIC:RUS_Ingria_IA:VIII5_2


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrian_Finns

    I do have 3 recent matches with swedes living in southern Finland ...................I am not sure ........................this is via myheritage site

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    thanks



    still get ingria
    Target: Torzio_scaled
    Distance: 17.4009% / 0.17400903 | ADC: 0.25x
    39.2 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    27.6 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
    18.6 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    11.6 GERMANIC:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97026
    3.0 BALTIC:RUS_Ingria_IA:VIII5_2


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrian_Finns

    I do have 3 recent matches with swedes living in southern Finland ...................I am not sure ........................this is via myheritage site
    I doubt it has any relevance in this context. I have much more with Italy in MH (19) and it doesn't mean anything for sure in my case. MH likes to amuse people with number of exotic matches. BTW I have 82 Finnish matches there...

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    "NEW ph2ter's New Roman-Medieval unscaled calc on Vahaduo"
    Distance to: AC
    0.02173707 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
    0.02201454 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ36
    0.02409564 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
    0.02411390 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ43
    0.02538247 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR835
    0.02738375 BALKAN-GOTHIC:UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37
    0.02741697 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
    0.02823809 BALKANIC-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ37
    0.02912473 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.02921404 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR131
    0.02989164 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1544
    0.02995780 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1548
    0.03031633 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
    0.03155551 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
    0.03200812 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
    0.03202156 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
    0.03208535 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
    0.03333257 BALKANIC-ROMAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
    0.03340075 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1549
    0.03480302 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
    0.03530028 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12647
    0.03536510 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
    0.03570350 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR75
    0.03582681 GOTHIC-HUNIC:Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD:KER_1
    0.03609765 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121

    Target: AC
    Distance: 0.8898% / 0.00889785
    41.2 OLD-LATIN
    14.2 GRECO-ANATOLIAN
    10.0 BALTO-SLAVIC
    8.2 BALTO-FINNIC
    8.0 LEVANTINE
    5.2 BALKAN-GOTHIC
    5.2 TARTESSIAN
    3.6 NORSE
    3.0 IBERIAN
    0.8 VIETNAM
    0.6 MELANESIA




    Target: AC
    Distance: 0.9312% / 0.00931234 | ADC: 0.25x
    51.8 OLD-LATIN
    12.0 GRECO-ANATOLIAN
    10.6 BALKAN-GOTHIC
    8.4 BALTO-FINNIC
    7.2 BALTO-SLAVIC
    3.8 NORSE
    3.2 LEVANTINE
    3.0 TARTESSIAN


    Target: AC
    Distance: 1.1281% / 0.01128098 | ADC: 0.5x
    59.2 OLD-LATIN
    24.4 BALKAN-GOTHIC
    11.0 OLD-SLAVONIC
    2.6 GRECO-ANATOLIAN
    1.8 SUBALPINE-ROMAN
    1.0 BALTO-FINNIC

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Country: Albania

    0 - 1000 BCE (Iron Age) G25 Calculator

    Distance to: Progon_scaled
    0.04000697 ILLYRIAN
    0.04054663 MACEDONIAN
    0.06614198 PANNONIAN
    0.06990364 GREEK
    0.08654974 CELTIC-SOUTHEAST
    0.09298279 PONTIC
    0.09820382 CELTIC-NORTHWEST
    0.10171040 IBERIAN
    0.10252845 PONTIC-BALTIC
    0.10584926 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
    0.11417745 ALANIC
    0.11873214 ANATOLIAN
    0.13003546 NORDIC
    0.13818708 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    0.14767552 CENTRAL-EUROPEAN-PONTIC
    0.15222235 CIMMERIAN
    0.15290082 EASTERN-IRANIAN
    0.15682512 LEVANTINE
    0.15884956 SARMATIAN
    0.16369708 SARMATIAN-POKROVKA
    0.16479950 SARMATIAN-WEST
    0.16546172 SARMATIAN-URALS
    0.16881114 CENTRAL-ASIAN-INDOEUROPEAN
    0.18490122 BALTIC
    0.19515328 STEPPE-NOMADS


    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.4013% / 0.02401261

    39.0 GREEK
    24.0 MACEDONIAN
    17.4 BALTIC
    14.6 ILLYRIAN
    2.6 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
    1.8 ALANIC
    0.6 PONTIC-BALTIC

    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.5199% / 0.02519869 | ADC: 0.25x

    37.2 MACEDONIAN
    24.4 ILLYRIAN
    22.2 GREEK
    11.8 BALTIC
    4.0 ALANIC
    0.4 PONTIC


    ph2ter's New Roman-Medieval unscaled calc

    Distance to: Progon
    0.02027240 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ43
    0.02216709 BALKANIC-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ37
    0.02225017 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ36
    0.02414601 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
    0.02461565 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
    0.02488092 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
    0.02502359 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
    0.02561503 BALKANIC-ROMAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
    0.02642272 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
    0.02647640 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.02648264 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
    0.02738138 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1548
    0.02852157 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1544
    0.02872716 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121
    0.02876352 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR835
    0.02914086 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR131
    0.02946795 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
    0.02956772 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
    0.02989482 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1549
    0.03164822 GOTHIC-HUNIC:Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD:KER_1
    0.03172207 BALKAN-GOTHIC:Gepidian_SRB_ACD:VIM_2
    0.03284874 BALKAN-GOTHIC:UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37
    0.03326214 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
    0.03393346 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
    0.03401500 GRECO-ANATOLIAN:Anatolia_IA:MA2198

    Target: Progon
    Distance: 1.1251% / 0.01125060

    27.6 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    25.4 OLD-LATIN
    13.6 GRECO-ANATOLIAN
    10.0 GOTHIC-HUNIC
    9.2 NORSE
    8.6 BALTO-SLAVIC
    4.6 ROMAN
    0.6 JAPAN-JOMON
    0.4 KENYA


    Target: Progon
    Distance: 1.1593% / 0.01159294 | ADC: 0.25x

    31.4 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    28.6 OLD-LATIN
    9.0 BALTO-SLAVIC
    8.2 SUBALPINE-ROMAN
    8.0 GOTHIC-HUNIC
    6.2 GRECO-ANATOLIAN
    3.2 BALKAN-GOTHIC
    2.8 ROMAN
    2.6 NORSE

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    Country: Albania

    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    thanks

    Distance to: Torzio_scaled
    0.17451211 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    0.17496871 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
    0.17506475 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    0.17608387 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
    0.17619137 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
    0.17637638 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
    0.17653383 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b
    0.17655620 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
    0.17667912 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.17684498 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
    0.17694199 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
    0.17710001 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I7673
    0.17712213 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
    0.17728482 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
    0.17740955 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
    0.17745555 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
    0.17751713 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
    0.17768995 SARDINIAN:ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
    0.17778308 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
    0.17799559 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3323
    0.17809366 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
    0.17820148 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113
    0.17823544 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
    0.17827196 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
    0.17833682 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3320


    still get ingria
    Target: Torzio_scaled
    Distance: 17.4009% / 0.17400903 | ADC: 0.25x
    39.2 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    27.6 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
    18.6 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    11.6 GERMANIC:SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97026
    3.0 BALTIC:RUS_Ingria_IA:VIII5_2


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrian_Finns

    I do have 3 recent matches with swedes living in southern Finland ...................I am not sure ........................this is via myheritage site
    I am just writing to let you know you might have done same mistake I did and used scaled coordinates instead of unscaled. I will edit my post. Noticed due to the huge difference between the distances to the samples between me and Progon.

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    Country: Albania

    Anyone tried these calculators or willing to try and share results?

    Supreeeme G25 Language families (scaled)


    Distance to: AC_scaled
    0.02798197 Albanian:Albanian
    0.03551570 Hellenic:Greek_Thessaly
    0.03693863 Balto-Slavic:Bulgarian
    0.03703262 Hellenic:Greek_Peloponnese
    0.03756595 Western_Romance:Italian_Tuscany
    0.04046623 Eastern_Romance:Romanian
    0.04059236 Balto-Slavic:Macedonian
    0.04552827 Western_Romance:Italian_Bergamo
    0.05970204 Western_Romance:Portuguese
    0.06067748 Semitic:Maltese
    0.06100587 Western_Romance:Italian_Calabria
    0.06610041 Hellenic:Greek_Crete
    0.06808425 Western_Romance:Spanish_Aragon
    0.07140367 Balto-Slavic:Croatian
    0.07291430 Western_Romance:French_Paris
    0.07517540 Germanic:Belgian
    0.07594046 Uralic:Hungarian
    0.08317272 Germanic:German
    0.09499164 Celtic:Welsh
    0.09598609 Germanicutch
    0.09745185 Germanic:English
    0.10319285 Celtic:Irish
    0.10608261 Turkic:Turkish_Central
    0.10749825 Balto-Slavic:Polish
    0.10768508 Balto-Slavic:Ukrainian




    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 2.2919% / 0.02291868
    69.8 Hellenic
    13.2 Western_Romance
    9.6 Balto-Slavic
    3.8 Uralic
    2.0 Albanian
    1.0 Austronesian
    0.6 Berber




    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 2.3565% / 0.02356498 | ADC: 0.25x
    45.6 Hellenic
    35.2 Eastern_Romance
    11.0 Albanian
    7.6 Western_Romance
    0.6 Austronesian



    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 2.5400% / 0.02540049 | ADC: 0.5x
    54.2 Albanian
    22.6 Eastern_Romance
    20.8 Hellenic
    2.4 Western_Romance

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Country: Albania

    Religion G25 Calculator

    Distance to: AC_scaled
    0.02639508 Orthodox_Christianity:Greek_Central_Macedonia
    0.02798197 Sunni_Islam:Albanian
    0.03231981 Catholic_Christianity:Swiss_Italian
    0.03358316 Orthodox_Christianity:Moldavian
    0.03551570 Orthodox_Christianity:Greek_Thessaly
    0.03693863 Orthodox_Christianity:Bulgarian
    0.03703262 Orthodox_Christianity:Greek_Peloponnese
    0.03756595 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Tuscany
    0.03872656 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Piedmont
    0.03964918 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Veneto
    0.04031140 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Northeast
    0.04046623 Orthodox_Christianity:Romanian
    0.04055431 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Umbria
    0.04059236 Orthodox_Christianity:Macedonian
    0.04226074 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Marche
    0.04256740 Orthodox_Christianity:Greek_Izmir
    0.04401298 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.04466572 Catholic_Christianity:French_Corsica
    0.04552827 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Bergamo
    0.04584885 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Lazio
    0.04609539 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Molise
    0.04626446 Orthodox_Christianity:Montenegrin
    0.04791903 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Abruzzo
    0.04805939 Orthodox_Christianity:Serbian
    0.04832654 Catholic_Christianity:Italian_Liguria

    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 2.3033% / 0.02303278 | ADC: 0.5x
    87.8 Orthodox_Christianity
    12.2 Catholic_Christianity


    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 1.9366% / 0.01936573 | ADC: 0.25x
    83.4 Orthodox_Christianity
    15.8 Catholic_Christianity
    0.4 Mahayana_Buddhism
    0.4 Protestant_Christianity


    Target: AC_scaled
    Distance: 1.8118% / 0.01811824
    81.2 Orthodox_Christianity
    16.6 Catholic_Christianity
    1.4 Sunni_Islam
    0.6 Protestant_Christianity
    0.2 Mahayana_Buddhism

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Country: Albania

    Supreeeme G25 Language families (scaled)


    Distance to: Progon_scaled
    0.02208450 Albanian:Albanian
    0.02615174 Hellenic:Greek_Thessaly
    0.03270794 Western_Romance:Italian_Tuscany
    0.03282051 Hellenic:Greek_Peloponnese
    0.03675538 Balto-Slavic:Bulgarian
    0.03767072 Balto-Slavic:Macedonian
    0.04018437 Western_Romance:Italian_Bergamo
    0.04195991 Eastern_Romance:Romanian
    0.05797167 Western_Romance:Italian_Calabria
    0.06078969 Hellenic:Greek_Crete
    0.06215269 Semitic:Maltese
    0.06473999 Western_Romance:Portuguese
    0.06934722 Western_Romance:Spanish_Aragon
    0.07227982 Balto-Slavic:Croatian
    0.07241345 Western_Romance:French_Paris
    0.07453777 Germanic:Belgian
    0.07736686 Uralic:Hungarian
    0.08279164 Germanic:German
    0.09389678 Celtic:Welsh
    0.09564925 Germanic:English
    0.09588198 Germanicutch
    0.10196310 Celtic:Irish
    0.10863180 Germanic:Swedish
    0.10909444 Balto-Slavic:Polish
    0.10913728 Turkic:Turkish_Central

    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.0073% / 0.02007290
    41.0 Hellenic
    35.2 Albanian
    10.6 Balto-Slavic
    8.6 Germanic
    4.6 Western_Romance

    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.0281% / 0.02028142 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.0 Albanian
    26.4 Hellenic
    13.6 Balto-Slavic
    4.0 Celtic
    4.0 Western_Romance


    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.1393% / 0.02139337 | ADC: 0.5x
    84.8 Albanian
    7.4 Balto-Slavic
    6.0 Western_Romance
    1.8 Hellenic

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    Country: Albania

    ArchetypeOne can you try this Balkan calculator i have made? It uses scaled coordinates.

    West_Balkan_Slav:Bosnian,0.1290754,0.1348622,0.0449528,0.0248064,0.0312058,0.0098726,0.004841,0.0052152,-0.0024136,-0.001859,0.0004224,-0.0028176,0.00556,0.0162396,-0.0125404,0.0010078,0.0066756,-0.000583,0.004827,0.0030266,-0.0050912,-0.0034376,0.0075182,0.001229,-0.0016286
    West_Balkan_Slav
    :Croatian,0.128051,0.1338467,0.0518917,0.0314925,0.035822,0.0125223,0.0060161,0.0067381,0.0018408,-0.0058862,-0.001153,-0.0023827,0.0047275,0.0127851,-0.0066365,-0.0022011,0.0027512,-0.0007223,0.0018101,-0.0007503,-0.005166,-0.0024236,0.0044246,-0.0010966,0.0001796
    East_Balkan_Slav
    :Bulgarian,0.12475,0.1348622,0.0256442,0.0053618,0.02462,-0.0008368,0.005499,0.0030458,-0.0002862,0.0069978,-0.0033452,0.0008992,0.002111,0.0086426,-0.0143046,-0.0022274,0.0070928,0.0020016,0.0031424,-0.0037018,-0.0046168,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.0024824,-0.0010776
    East_European_Slav
    :Ukrainian,0.1309273,0.1240867,0.0683506,0.0575551,0.0376867,0.0212936,0.0087651,0.0113072,-0.002891,-0.0210999,-0.0016327,-0.0076594,0.0153563,0.0216328,-0.0112354,-0.0010965,0.0046903,-0.0006985,0.0025989,0.0017002,-0.0044989,-0.003479,0.0067387,-0.0040578,0.0007217
    East_European_Slav
    :Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0.0695957,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
    Albanian
    ,0.1181863,0.1417511,0.0155562,-0.0158808,0.0251586,-0.0074138,0.0033683,0.0018077,0.0006648,0.0161279,0.0011097,0.0015486,-0.0070986,0.0066059,-0.019295,-0.0041544,0.0081273,0.0014992,0.0082962,-0.0059402,-0.0055629,0.0007212,0.0024238,0.0021991,-0.0025248
    Hellenic
    :Greek_Crete,0.1070972,0.1463285,-0.0168335,-0.0466295,0.0057632,-0.0153645,0.0022005,-0.0013009,-0.0029936,0.0129388,0.0013876,0.0027794,-0.0009596,0.0043915,-0.0122765,-0.0038692,0.001529,0.0008983,0.0040565,-0.0055482,-0.0050935,0.0014165,-0.0007506,-0.0012051,-0.0019595
    Hellenic
    :Greek_Peloponnese,0.118376,0.1438667,0.0037713,-0.0325153,0.0159003,-0.010412,0.001645,-0.000923,-0.000409,0.018102,0.000108,0.0039467,-0.0058967,0.0037157,-0.016377,0.0023863,0.0134297,0.0003377,0.009176,-0.0007083,-0.0092753,0.003998,0.0013967,-0.0001203,-0.0033927
    Hellenic
    :Greek_Thessaly,0.119135,0.1452207,0.013702,-0.020026,0.0188753,-0.0051133,0.0005483,0.000769,0,0.01877,0.0026523,0.0040963,-0.0072843,0.0056883,-0.0090933,-0.0041987,0.0021297,-0.000549,0.0041483,-0.005336,-0.0069877,0.0012777,0.0035743,0.0014057,-0.003353
    Italic
    :Italian_Lazio,0.1146768,0.1525832,0.006694,-0.0350455,0.0213115,-0.0115738,0.0024675,0.000519,0.0068512,0.0234627,0.001299,0.0028475,-0.007656,-0.0070875,-0.0068538,0.0041432,-0.000228,-0.0005068,0.0018225,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.0033695,-0.0003697,-0.0003613,-0.000479
    Italic
    :Italian_Lombardy,0.1245224,0.147861,0.0279822,-0.0137598,0.0327446,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.0103898,0.0299232,-0.0025008,0.008932,-0.0143606,-0.0047066,-0.0008686,-0.0078758,-0.0083448,0.0017738,0.0034442,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.0012366,-0.0006656,0.0030602,0.0008382
    Central_Europe
    :Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0553559,0.0364298,0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0075326,0.0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
    Central_Europe
    :Austrian,0.1290886,0.1350056,0.054394,0.032737,0.0347756,0.0125666,0.0072299,0.0062441,0.0028274,0.0027551,-0.0038781,0.0007847,-0.0012942,0.0027849,0.0005029,0.0036968,0.0002223,0.00079,0.0031793,0.0008385,-0.0009909,-0.0026548,0.0016675,0.0029627,-0.0010284
    Central_Europe
    :Swiss_German,0.127624,0.1407779,0.0460088,0.0227311,0.0406229,0.0073906,0.0027906,0.0051344,0.0086409,0.0121641,-0.0015224,0.005264,-0.0149402,-0.008808,0.0083638,-0.0011269,-0.0025912,0.0012192,0.0053735,-0.0009222,0.0019341,0.0035086,-0.0025574,0.006974,-0.0025596
    Anatolian_Turkish
    :Turkish_Aydin,0.0947984,0.0610769,-0.012391,-0.0360837,-0.0198277,-0.014343,0.0034579,-0.000923,-0.0170047,-0.0016923,-0.0015313,-0.0002354,-0.0045023,0.0049937,-0.0059136,0.0014774,0.002943,0.0004526,0.0012569,-0.0014293,-0.0034401,-0.0027736,-0.0037326,-0.000895,-0.0015567
    Anatolian_Turkish
    :Turkish_Central,0.097275,0.0841327,-0.0305758,-0.0405241,-0.0228443,-0.0133439,0.0035069,-0.0019525,-0.021066,-0.0021728,-0.0002998,0.0027898,-0.0036708,0.0009528,-0.0056584,-0.0015502,0.0006519,0.0011109,0.0010635,-0.0017988,-0.0013438,0.0018834,-0.0018203,-0.0004636,0.0004421
    Anatolian_Turkish
    :Turkish_Kayseri,0.0997089,0.0975922,-0.0341294,-0.045866,-0.0242198,-0.0121875,0.0031256,-0.0010152,-0.0233158,-0.0002735,-0.0007144,0.0003747,-0.0012487,0.0030414,-0.0035422,-9.28e-05,0.0007563,0.0008615,0.0019987,-0.0034517,-0.001797,0.0011499,-0.0026129,-0.002916,-0.0005507
    Anatolian_Turkish
    :Turkish_North,0.1008472,0.0560572,-0.0221744,-0.0341734,-0.027205,-0.011825,0.007473,-0.0003694,-0.022743,-0.0023692,-0.0030204,0.0035968,-0.0066006,0.004184,-0.0076818,-0.0048526,0.0003132,0.0012414,0.0013324,-0.004027,-0.0065134,0.0032148,-0.0026866,0.0006024,-0.0022994
    Anatolian_Turkish
    :Turkish_Southwest,0.0954045,0.0585314,-0.0177931,-0.0312429,-0.0223256,-0.0116374,0.0053836,0.0006084,-0.0149116,0.0018555,-0.0011515,0.0007358,-0.002973,-0.0010509,-0.0048735,0.007859,0.0102175,0.0007485,0.0005829,-0.0003978,-0.0040155,-0.0021471,-0.003395,0.0007012,-0.0018289
    Romanian
    :Romanian,0.1245225,0.1340499,0.034167,0.0087856,0.0288362,0.0030677,0.0036425,0.0059073,0.0012475,0.0061596,-0.0034427,-0.0002098,-0.0005352,0.0080509,-0.0126626,-0.0005172,0.0059194,-0.0014823,0.0033686,-0.0030764,-0.0066882,-0.0025225,0.0037343,0.0012171,-0.0012694
    Romanian
    :Moldavian,0.121563,0.1372996,0.0264361,-0.0015504,0.0230812,8.38e-05,0.0045121,0.0031846,-0.0010635,0.0033896,-0.0003408,0.0020532,0.0025124,0.0098675,-0.0115634,-0.0019095,0.0080316,-0.0003673,0.0044121,-0.0005879,-0.004804,0.0017806,0.0020213,0.0001568,-4.8e-05

  23. #48
    Regular Member Stuvanè's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J2
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1e

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: Italy

    Ph2ter's New Roman-Medieval unscaled


    Distance to: G25notscaledStuvanè

    0.01487784 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
    0.01802387 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
    0.02030369 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121
    0.02036320 BALKANIC-ROMAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
    0.02095113 BALKANIC-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ37
    0.02131408 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
    0.02217702 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
    0.02285585 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR113
    0.02372910 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473
    0.02439221 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
    0.02442314 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
    0.02448612 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
    0.02478669 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o:RMPR850
    0.02647640 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
    0.02662086 OLD-LATIN:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    0.02693251 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ36
    0.02755649 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1543
    0.02767038 ETRUSCAN:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.02814267 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1544
    0.02831572 SUBALPINE-ROMAN:HUN:Hun_MA_Szolad:SZ43
    0.02853401 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
    0.02993409 ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR835
    0.03018360 BALKANIC-ROMAN:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1549
    0.03039605 SARDINIAN:ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
    0.03053293 BALKANIC-ROMANEU_MA_ACD:STR_310

    Target: G25notscaledStuvanè
    Distance: 1.1775% / 0.01177532 | ADC: 1x
    75.2 IBERIAN
    22.8 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    2.0 OLD-LATIN

    Target: G25notscaledStuvanè
    Distance: 0.9423% / 0.00942266 | ADC: 0.5x
    49.2 IBERIAN
    28.6 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    15.8 OLD-LATIN
    3.2 CELTO-NORSE
    3.2 ETRUSCAN

    Target: G25notscaledStuvanè
    Distance: 0.7259% / 0.00725886 | ADC: 0.25x
    28.6 IBERIAN
    26.0 OLD-LATIN
    17.4 BALKANIC-ROMAN
    11.2 ETRUSCAN
    6.0 CELTO-NORSE
    4.0 BALTIC
    3.4 GRECO-ANATOLIAN
    2.6 SUBALPINE-ROMAN
    0.8 ALANIC

    ___________________________________________

    Supreeeme G25 Languege Families

    Distance to: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled

    0.02890115 Hellenic:Greek_Thessaly
    0.03108708 Western_Romance:Italian_Tuscany
    0.03117244 Western_Romance:Italian_Bergamo
    0.03488089 Albanian:Albanian
    0.04648945 Hellenic:Greek_Peloponnese
    0.04837068 Balto-Slavic:Bulgarian
    0.05128531 Balto-Slavic:Macedonian
    0.05185619 Eastern_Romance:Romanian
    0.05384627 Western_Romance:Portuguese
    0.05650126 Semitic:Maltese
    0.05657887 Western_Romance:Spanish_Aragon
    0.05683315 Western_Romance:Italian_Calabria
    0.06046815 Hellenic:Greek_Crete
    0.07114461 Western_Romance:French_Paris
    0.07309467 Germanic:Belgian
    0.07900799 Balto-Slavic:Croatian
    0.08337047 Uralic:Hungarian
    0.08474542 Germanic:German
    0.09255010 Celtic:Welsh
    0.09357128 Germanic:English
    0.09617824 Germanicutch
    0.10011698 Celtic:Irish
    0.10936353 Germanic:Icelandic
    0.11023890 Germanic:Swedish
    0.11032809 Turkic:Turkish_Central

    Target: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled
    Distance: 2.4200% / 0.02419953 | ADC: 1x
    60.6 Hellenic
    39.4 Western_Romance

    Target: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled
    Distance: 2.4133% / 0.02413296 | ADC: 0.5x
    56.8 Hellenic
    43.2 Western_Romance

    Target: G25scaledStuvanè_scaled
    Distance: 2.3181% / 0.02318130 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.0 Western_Romance
    38.4 Hellenic
    4.2 Semitic
    1.4 Iranian

  24. #49
    Regular Member Hawk's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V13

    Country: Albania

    Mine, for instance.

    Distance to: Progon_scaled
    0.02208450 Albanian
    0.02615174 Hellenic:Greek_Thessaly
    0.03148173 Romanian:Moldavian
    0.03282051 Hellenic:Greek_Peloponnese
    0.03675538 East_Balkan_Slav:Bulgarian
    0.04179356 Italic:Italian_Lazio
    0.04195991 Romanian:Romanian
    0.04272890 Italic:Italian_Lombardy
    0.06078969 Hellenic:Greek_Crete
    0.06177108 West_Balkan_Slav:Bosnian
    0.06539146 Central_Europe:Swiss_German
    0.07227982 West_Balkan_Slav:Croatian
    0.07291586 Central_Europe:Austrian
    0.07736686 Central_Europe:Hungarian
    0.10566364 Anatolian_Turkish:Turkish_Kayseri
    0.10913728 Anatolian_Turkish:Turkish_Central
    0.11006986 East_European_Slav:Ukrainian
    0.11595958 Anatolian_Turkish:Turkish_Aydin
    0.11912875 Anatolian_Turkish:Turkish_Southwest
    0.12441804 Anatolian_Turkish:Turkish_North
    0.12698885 East_European_Slav:Belarusian


    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.0085% / 0.02008528
    43.4 Hellenic
    33.6 Albanian
    12.4 West_Balkan_Slav
    9.4 Central_Europe
    1.2 Italic

    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.0398% / 0.02039786 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.8 Albanian
    23.6 Hellenic
    16.8 Romanian
    6.8 Central_Europe

    Target: Progon_scaled
    Distance: 2.1277% / 0.02127735 | ADC: 0.5x
    79.8 Albanian
    13.8 Romanian
    6.4 Hellenic

  25. #50
    Regular Member Carlos's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V22/YF66572
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1c5c1

    Country: Spain

    Balkans K4 Global25 Calculator

    Target: Karlos_scaled
    Distance: 4.5177% / 0.04517706 | ADC: 0.25x
    100.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World



    Target: Karlos_scaled
    Distance: 4.4990% / 0.04499016
    94.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    5.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.2 Mongolsetal.


    Distance to: Karlos_scaled
    0.05175749 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Balkans_BAI4332
    0.05657892 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HungaryDA195
    0.05873607 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Balkans_BAI4331
    0.06099381 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HungaryDA198
    0.07338982 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HungaryDA197
    0.08514701 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_Moldovascy192
    0.08614233 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_Moldovascy197
    0.08803563 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian
    0.09631971 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
    0.09657839 SlavicMigration
    0.10446692 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_Moldovascy300
    0.10689882 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041
    0.12240163 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
    0.12543440 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
    0.12690862 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Anatolia_MLBAMA2203
    0.14338971 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Anatolia_MLBAMA2200
    0.14482051 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Minoan_Lasithi
    0.61515078 Mongolsetal.


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