Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Y-DNA Haplogroups of U.S. Presidents

  1. #1
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    9,554


    Ethnic group
    Italo-celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    4 members found this post helpful.

    Post Y-DNA Haplogroups of U.S. Presidents

    Here are the Y-haplogroups of US presidents known at present:

    1. George Washington R1b-L21>DF13>ZZ10>Z253>Z2186>BY2744
    2. John Adams R1b-S1200>S14328>S6849
    3. Thomas Jefferson T1a1a
    4. James Madison
    5. James Monroe I2a1a-L161.1
    6. John Quincy Adams R1b-S1200>S14328>S6849
    7. Andrew Jackson I1
    8. Martin Van Buren
    9. William Henry Harrison R1b-U106 (?)
    10. John Tyler I2a2a-CTS10148
    11. James K. Polk R1b-U106>L48
    12. Zachary Taylor R1b-L21>DF13>Z39589>L1335>L1065>S764>BY3148
    13. Millard Fillmore
    14. Franklin Pierce R1b-U106>Z381>Z156>S497>DF96
    15. James Buchanan R1b-L21>CTS11722
    16. Abraham Lincoln R1b-U152>L2>S20376
    17. Andrew Johnson I2a2a-L801>Z170>Y16963>L1290>Y6639>Y8830>Y8831
    18. Ulysses Grant R1b-U106>Z159
    19. Rutherford B. Hayes R1b-L21>DF13>L513>Z16854
    20. James A. Garfield
    21. Chester A. Arthur I1-Z63>BY151>BY351
    22. Grover Cleveland R1b-U152>L2>L20
    23. Benjamin Harrison R1b-U106 (?)
    24. Grover Cleveland R1b-U152>L2>L20
    25. William McKinley R1b-L21>DF13>L1335
    26. Theodore Roosevelt
    27. William Howard Taft R1b-U106>Z381>Z301>Z30>Z338>FGC1954
    28. Woodrow Wilson R1b-P312>Z30597
    29. Warren G. Harding R1b-L21>DF23>ZP75
    30. Calvin Coolidge I1
    31. Herbert Hoover I1-Z161 or R1a-Z93
    32. Franklin D. Roosevelt
    33. Harry S. Truman
    34. Dwight D. Eisenhower
    35. John F. Kennedy R1b (L21?)
    36. Lyndon Baines Johnson E-V13
    37. Richard Nixon E1b1b (?)
    38. Gerald Ford R1b (?)
    39. Jimmy Carter I1
    40. Ronald Reagan R1b-L21 (?)
    41. George H.W. Bush R1b-DF27>Z209>S16864
    42. Bill Clinton I1
    43. George W. Bush R1b-DF27>Z209>S16864
    44. Barrack Obama
    45. Donald Trump R1b-U106>L48>Z9>BY20693 (?)
    46. Joe Biden


    So far we have the presumed haplogroups 36 out of 46 presidents. None of the haplogroups are 100% certain as no president tested personally. The haplogroups were inferred based on triangulation of each president's genealogy and the results of descendants of a common shared ancestor. Those with a (?) next to the haplogroup are based on the haplogroups matching their surname in their ancestral region, but lacking clear data about the genealogy of the tested people.

    - 2 are E1b1b => 5.5%
    - 5 or 6 are I1 (Germanic/Nordic) => 14 or 16.5%
    - 1 is I2a1a (British/Irish Neolithic)
    - 2 are I2a2a-L801 (Germanic) => 5.5%
    - 1 might be R1a
    - 22 are R1b (61%) including:
    • 7 R1b-U106 (Germanic)
    • 1 R1b-S1200 (Celto-Germanic)
    • 1 R1b-P312>Z30597 (Celto-Germanic)
    • 2 R1b-DF27 (Celtic)
    • 2 R1b-U152>L2 (Italo-Gaulish)
    • 8 R1b-L21 (British/Irish Celtic)

    - 1 is T1a1a


    Compared to the Y-DNA frequencies in Britain and Ireland, where most presidents' paternal lines originated, there are more E1b1b, I1, I2 and T1a than expected, but less R1b (Britain has 70% R1b and Ireland 81%). That's probably due to the small sample size though, which quickly adds more weight to minority haplogroups.
    Last edited by Maciamo; 12-02-21 at 21:13.
    My book selection---Follow me on Facebook and Twitter --- My profile on Academia.edu and on ResearchGate ----Check Wa-pedia's Japan Guide
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

  2. #2
    Regular Member Venko2257's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-12-18
    Posts
    57


    Ethnic group
    Bulgarian
    Country: Bulgaria



    Good idea!

    I have a suggestion for you. Could you note in one way or another which ones are absolutely certain and which ones are just a possibility?

    For instance, one colour could be used for those who have been personally tested (or their remains). Another one could be for a relative. A third one may be for a common surname in a genealogical project, etc.

    The T Jefferson is rather unusual, BTW.

  3. #3
    Regular Member Joey37's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-06-18
    Location
    Coventry, Rhode Island
    Posts
    460

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1a-YP445
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1c2b

    Ethnic group
    Celto-Germanic
    Country: USA - Rhode Island



    At this own site it says Hoover was R1a! So the Bushes are DF27, eh? Probably not the same clade as the Milesian DF27 of my Tipperary Ryan ancestors (the family of the mitochondrial ancestress who brought her J1c2b across the Atlantic to America).

  4. #4
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    9,554


    Ethnic group
    Italo-celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    Quote Originally Posted by Venko2257 View Post
    I have a suggestion for you. Could you note in one way or another which ones are absolutely certain and which ones are just a possibility?

    For instance, one colour could be used for those who have been personally tested (or their remains). Another one could be for a relative. A third one may be for a common surname in a genealogical project, etc.
    None of the presidents were personally tested. All are predictions based on tested cousins descending from a common shared ancestor, so there is always the possibility of a non-paternity-event. In other words none are 100% certain - just highly probable.

  5. #5
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    9,554


    Ethnic group
    Italo-celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joey37 View Post
    At this own site it says Hoover was R1a!
    That's the problem with descendant testing going back many centuries. There are two groups of Hoover/Huber from Switzerland sharing the same ancestor in the FTDNA project. The majority is I1. The rest is R1a. I can't tell for sure from which line president Hoover is descended.

    So the Bushes are DF27, eh? Probably not the same clade as the Milesian DF27 of my Tipperary Ryan ancestors (the family of the mitochondrial ancestress who brought her J1c2b across the Atlantic to America).
    The clade is R-S16864 It's easy to check. I doubt that it has any matches in Ireland though. The ancestors of the Bushes came from Essex and their only matches in Europe in Yfull are from Belgium.

  6. #6
    Regular Member Venko2257's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-12-18
    Posts
    57


    Ethnic group
    Bulgarian
    Country: Bulgaria



    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    None of the presidents were personally tested. All are predictions based on tested cousins descending from a common shared ancestor, so there is always the possibility of a non-paternity-event. In other words none are 100% certain - just highly probable.
    Thanks, Maciamo! That's what I needed to know.

  7. #7
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-05-19
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    2,163

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    None of the presidents were personally tested. All are predictions based on tested cousins descending from a common shared ancestor, so there is always the possibility of a non-paternity-event. In other words none are 100% certain - just highly probable.

    the most tested descendants was the ones out of thomas Jefferson and sarah hemmings
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-Z282

  8. #8
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-05-19
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    2,163

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    the most tested descendants was the ones out of thomas Jefferson and sarah hemmings

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson%E2%80%93Hemings_controversy



    he was a slave owner like the others below

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...o_owned_slaves

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    03-01-17
    Posts
    74


    Country: Netherlands



    2 members found this post helpful.
    President John Tyler probably belonged to hg I-M223. Descendants of his ancestor Henry Tyler (d. 1672) have been tested as such by the Tyler Family DNA Project.

  10. #10
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    28-01-21
    Posts
    1

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R-S16864 -> R-S18894

    Country: Belgium



    So, these two matches in Belgium (R-S16864): that's me (and my father)

    I'm wondering how the got to R-S16864 for Bush?

  11. #11
    Regular Member kingjohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-09-16
    Posts
    1,259

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    rare E-FGC7391
    MtDNA haplogroup
    h3ap

    Country: Uruguay



    What was the y haplogroup
    Of richard nixon ? đŸ¤”

    Also r1b ?
    phenotype:
    gracile- med

  12. #12
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    9,554


    Ethnic group
    Italo-celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    Ronald Reagan's genealogy shows that he descends from a Thomas O'Regan (1783-1852) from Tipperary, Ireland. The Reagan DNA Project has only a few different lineages - overwhelmingly R1b-L21 as can be expected from an Irish surname. One lineage is I2a2b-L38, but originated in County Mayo in the northwest of Ireland. I looked up the R1b-L21 lineages and they are all from counties Cork or Waterford, right next to Tipperary. So there is a high probability that Ronald Reagan belongs to R1b-L21 too.

  13. #13
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    9,554


    Ethnic group
    Italo-celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    What was the y haplogroup
    Of richard nixon ?

    Also r1b ?
    Richard Nixon's ancestors came from Staffordshire and Bedfordhsire in central England. The Nixon DNA Project has many very different Nixon lineages, from England, Scotland and Ireland. The only Nixon lineage from England is the first lineage in the project, that of Zachariah Nixon Sr. (1629-1692) from North Muskham, Nottinghamshire, not far from Staffordshire. It is E1b1b-L19 (according to Nevgen E-V257> PF2431, a lineage found in West Africa, Western Europe, including England, Armenia and Iran). All the Nixon lineages from Scotland are also E1b1b. Only the Irish Nixons are I1 and R1b. So there is considerable likelihood that Richard M. Nixon was E1b1b.

  14. #14
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-07-02
    Location
    Lothier
    Posts
    9,554


    Ethnic group
    Italo-celto-germanic
    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    Gerald Ford was the biological son of Leslie Lynch King, Sr. His genealogy goes back to Devonshire in southwest England. That makes it easier to identify as the vast majority of people carrying the surname King are from Ireland. The King DNA Project has a dozen separate lineages from England, but most are from northern England or East Anglia. None are from Devon, but three are from nearby Gloucestershire (on the other side of Bristol), one from Dorset and one from Somerset (both adjacent to Devon). All those lines are R1b.

    - John King, b. 1600, d. 1649 Weymouth, MA (looks like that individual from Dorchester, Dorset) => R1b-L21>DF13>S1051>FGC17938

    - Martin King, born ca. 1560, Marshfield Gloucestershire, England => R1b (U106>Z381>Z301 according to Nevgen)

    - John King, b. 1730, Ham, Berkeley, Gloucestershire => R1b-U106>BY93784

    - Robert King, Somerset, England =>R1b-DF27>Z195>SRY2627

    These are four distinct lineages, but all are R1b. We can't know which one of them (if any) is Gerald Ford's lineage, but so far R1b seems likely.

  15. #15
    Regular Member Regio X's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-03-14
    Posts
    1,037


    Country: Italy



    2 members found this post helpful.
    The father of Obama II would be a member of the Luo people. Obama II supposedly belongs either to E1b1a (66%) or B (22%) or A (11%).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_...Saharan_Africa

  16. #16
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    12-02-21
    Location
    GuimarĂ£es
    Posts
    1

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1a-Z284

    Ethnic group
    Portuguese
    Country: Portugal



    It doesn't surprise me the fact the majority of US presidents are R1b

  17. #17
    Regular Member kingjohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-09-16
    Posts
    1,259

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    rare E-FGC7391
    MtDNA haplogroup
    h3ap

    Country: Uruguay



    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    The father of Obama II would be a member of the Luo people. Obama II supposedly belongs either to E1b1a (66%) or B (22%) or A (11%).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_...Saharan_Africa
    very likely

  18. #18
    Junior Member blogmlog's Avatar
    Join Date
    21-02-21
    Posts
    1


    Country: Turkey



    thanks, we learned...

  19. #19
    Regular Member Yanis's Avatar
    Join Date
    21-01-14
    Posts
    12

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-BY9849
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J2a2d

    Country: France



    The oldest known ancestor of President Richard Nixon seems to be a James Nixon (c. 1705-1775), he was born in Ireland

    (source: famouskin.com)

  20. #20
    Regular Member kingjohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-09-16
    Posts
    1,259

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    rare E-FGC7391
    MtDNA haplogroup
    h3ap

    Country: Uruguay



    Quote Originally Posted by Yanis View Post
    The oldest known ancestor of President Richard Nixon seems to be a James Nixon (c. 1705-1775), he was born in Ireland

    (source: famouskin.com)

    so that fact push
    more to him being an r1b or i1 rather than e1b1b1-L19
    as the irish nixon were r1b and i1

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •