Genomic History of Neolithic to Bronze Age Anatolia, N.Levant & S. Caucasus

kingjohn said:
ok angela
i check myself again
i saw this :unsure:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Db3e1kTL9vsQ3ZP9HPH8sufse5vE-cAtjxtjqv17sGI/edit#gid=0
i never knew that one of the barcin individuals was e1b1b1 - bar11 (y)
if he was e-L618 or than there could be option of entrance from anatolia to balkan and the rest of europe
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The only Early Neolithic Culture influenced by Natufian-like/Iberomaurusian-like people was Cardial Pottery Culture. Surpsingly, E-L618 was found in Croatia in a Cardial site, and then the actual mutation of E-V13 in Spain in a Cardial site aswell. This mimicks well archeological data which says Cardial landed on North-Western Greece then Albania (I have heard there is one or two Tosk Albanians with E-L618, probably we will find among Epirotan Greeks aswell) > Croatia > Italy (where the actual mutation of E-V13 might happened and moved north in Central Europe) and finally Spain where we have the actual oldest E-V13 find so far.

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Progon said:
The only Early Neolithic Culture influenced by Natufian-like/Iberomaurusian-like people was Cardial Pottery Culture. Surpsingly, E-L618 was found in Croatia in a Cardial site, and then the actual mutation of E-V13 in Spain in a Cardial site aswell. This mimicks well archeological data which says Cardial landed on North-Western Greece then Albania (I have heard there is one or two Tosk Albanians with E-L618, probably we will find among Epirotan Greeks aswell) > Croatia > Italy (where the actual mutation of E-V13 might happened and moved north in Central Europe) and finally Spain where we have the actual oldest E-V13 find so far.

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That's true, but I still think that E-V13 was either picked up in Cucuteni-Trypillia culture or the Northern Adriatic by steppe people and spread with some steppe people's expansions from then on. I guess that only very little of the original Cardial Ware related expansion survived. Also don't forget the Michelsberg results, which showed us an I2a:E1b alliance. Not sure how much of this survived, but it shows that different places can be considered for "the pick up". But the most likely scenario remains with the Carpathian region, Balkan second imho.
 
Riverman said:
That's true, but I still think that E-V13 was either picked up in Cucuteni-Trypillia culture or the Northern Adriatic by steppe people and spread with some steppe people's expansions from then on. I guess that only very little of the original Cardial Ware related expansion survived. Also don't forget the Michelsberg results, which showed us an I2a:E1b alliance. Not sure how much of this survived, but it shows that different places can be considered for "the pick up". But the most likely scenario remains with the Carpathian region, Balkan second imho.
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The Bronze Age North Serbian samples had no E-V13, i really doubt we will see anything of E-V13 from Carpathes. Don't forget, Justinian Plague skewed the diversity in Balkans, most of founder effects are during that age, so we should expect different picture prior to that.
 
Maybe Angelita will get angry for going off-topic, she can move it to the appropriate topic so we don't fill with posts irrelevant with the title.
 
Here it is, I've created coordinates for this paper in combined format for Dodecad K7b. If anyone can provide us with the archeological context to the sample IDs, it would be very helpful:

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Jovialis said:
Here it is, I've created coordinates for this paper in combined format for Dodecad K7b. If anyone can provide us with the archeological context to the sample IDs, it would be very helpful:

Code: 
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Definitely not from there:

Distance to:Bigsnake49
18.16825528ETM021
26.05528929IKI032
27.91974391IKI017
28.61514284TIT025
29.83090512ALA009
31.47419260TIT015
32.42911963IKI002
33.08045647IKI024
34.04272610IKI020
35.47691785IKI009
36.47147653TIT014
37.35419387ETM015
38.50329077IKI036
39.52497944CBT018
40.43957715TIT003
40.45515542CBT014
40.49821848CBT001
40.78044997IKI019
41.45173820ART014_PE
41.50249752CBT003
41.50732225IKI038
41.93649723ART014_SR
42.05207010IKI016
42.06470017ALA030
42.35626164ART024_PE
 
My K7B distances using Dodecad K7 coordinates from Jovialis post #126.


Distance to:PalermoTrapani
16.16243175IKI017
17.37167234ETM021
20.40032108IKI024
21.44124530IKI009
22.71629151IKI002
24.43740780TIT025
24.70935248IKI020
25.13453998CBT018
26.70519425CBT001
27.20905548ETM015
27.28581683IKI019
27.32754105ART014_PE
27.33097510CBT003
27.36174885IKI038
27.72054653CBT014
27.98802780ART014_SR
28.36036847IKI036
28.37774833ART024_PE
29.02424676ART024_SR
29.04462257TIT003
29.07605716ALA030
29.08636278ART005_PE
29.70160602CBT016
29.81020966KRD002
29.90649261KRD001
30.63555288CBT013
30.70482373CBT015
30.81234331CBT002
30.86947521ART042
31.39010513IKI016
31.57081089CBT004
32.12574357CBT010
32.32670568ART020_PE
32.95655018ALA039
32.99431466ART026
33.01875073KRD003
33.05697808ART038
33.27968750IKI032
33.31638786KRD006
33.33655651ART027_SR
33.39177593ALA002
33.45276072ALA011
33.78539329ETM010
33.80443018ALA001
33.97981460ART012_PE
33.98740502ART011_SR
34.03504664ART018_SR
34.14081575ART022_SR
34.36698852ART018_PE
34.43068835ART015_PE
34.47621499ALA004
34.51372770ETM006
34.69629519MTT001_SR
34.72393843ART012_SR
34.86022949ALA023
34.87391432ART015_SR
34.87699528ETM016
34.92470902ART017_PE
35.12498541ART011_PE
35.16343413ALA017
35.22141678ART017_SR
35.30004816ETM012
35.37549858KRD005
35.50332097IKI037
35.58145725ART027_PE
35.63679980ETM026
35.69788509ALA013
36.00277767ALA028
36.05908901ALA016
36.08015244ALA024
36.13154162ART010_PE
36.25826802POT002_SR
36.47545750ALA029
36.50332451ART019_SR
36.67976963ALA008
36.73956042ALX002_PE
36.80287353TIT014
36.85586113ETM018
37.16531582POT002_PE
37.19408958ART019_PE
37.39314509IKI012
37.46571633ART039
37.49503834ETM023
37.50372248TIT012
37.53123632ART001_PE
37.56161738ALA025
38.24489639ART001_SR
38.36603055IKI006
38.40571181IKI034
39.17480568ALA015
39.22835836ALX002_SR
39.39520910TIT015
39.49096985ALA020
39.66370129ALA014
40.45575237ETM001
40.73494323ALA035
41.23213553ALA037
41.29128116IKI030
41.64783188ETM004
41.86428191KRD004
 
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Distance to:adam
10.66909087IKI017
15.38105328IKI024
16.82167055IKI002
17.45838194IKI009
18.70589212TIT025
18.84151799IKI020
19.30345306ETM021
21.51664937CBT018
21.73005752ETM015
22.51840803CBT001
22.54482646IKI036
22.82544633CBT014
23.32859833IKI019
23.42175911ART014_PE
23.50324658IKI038
23.51307934CBT003
23.58677172TIT003
23.91803086ART014_SR
24.31228496ALA030
24.34042111ART024_PE
25.01420197CBT016
25.24336348ART005_PE
25.25786214ART024_SR
25.61255356CBT015
25.72306747IKI016

thanks jovialis (y)

IKI017 IKI017.A 4580 26 cal BCE 3484-3198 cal BCE 3494-3124 İkiztepe


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İkiztepe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bafra
 
Jovialis said:
Despite the proximity of ETM021, the genetic distance is quite far. Goes to show, PCAs are not the whole picture:

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Jovialis: Distance to ETM021 using coordinates from your post 126 in this thread pus the Coordinates for Ancient Greeks from Lazaridis et al 2017 that you put together in that thread. IK107 shows up after 13 Ancient Greeks, but not really close to them either.

Distance to:ETM021
15.59168689I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
16.74604729I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
18.40732191I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
20.43131910I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
22.13658510I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
25.59691583I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
25.63608980I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
25.80991089I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
26.18116690I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
26.56775301I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
26.99253786I2495_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
27.39801270I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
27.54192259I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
27.81654903IKI017
 
I am not from there too:

Distance to:Duarte
16.26209089TIT015
23.01146888ALA009
25.28729918ETM021
37.77764418ETM025
42.89245971IKI017
43.15750109IKI032
46.53259073TIT025
47.20714141IKI024
48.18336435IKI002
48.29118657IKI009
49.87156304IKI020
51.72895321CBT018
52.24206351ETM015
53.05128556IKI019
53.43593735ETM017
53.50233266KRD001
53.56275478CBT001
53.95019462CBT003
53.97138131ART014_PE
54.11494618IKI038
54.31733057IKI036
54.49626593TIT014
54.62192051CBT014
54.66116537ART014_SR
55.08084694ART024_PE

 
compare to modern populations by distance in k7b
Distance to:ETM021
16.23078248C_Italian
16.50746195Greek
17.31503104Tuscan
17.54634720TSI30
17.98994997O_Italian
18.31961517S_Italian_Sicilian
18.76499667Sicilian
18.80811261Ashkenazy_Jews
18.89057966Ashkenazi
21.37686366Bulgarian
21.82810803Bulgarians
22.35581133North_Italian
22.43016496N_Italian
22.53992680Romanians
25.45218458Canarias
25.54580788Morocco_Jews
25.59236410Sephardic_Jews
27.12061393Murcia
27.43767665Baleares
27.84082793Portuguese
27.88254472Andalucia
28.10017260Extremadura
28.26008316Galicia
29.65811356Castilla_Y_Leon
29.89922574Spaniards

Distance to:IKI017
8.29566754Cypriots
9.96901700Sephardic_Jews
12.77620053Ashkenazy_Jews
12.94751327Turkish
13.27231705Ashkenazi
13.54777103Morocco_Jews
13.80475643Sicilian
14.30384913Turks
14.44223321S_Italian_Sicilian
15.38560366Lebanese
17.79024452Syrians
18.05381123Druze
19.44577332Greek
20.55780630Jordanians
21.43128788Palestinian
21.60514059Uzbekistan_Jews
21.86851847C_Italian
21.94279153Armenian
22.85484850Georgia_Jews
23.05468499Assyrian
23.10437404Armenians
23.42444236Azerbaijan_Jews
23.69818769Armenians_15
25.67000195Kurds
25.78076415Iraq_Jews

 
Who is this guy? Keep in mind, this might just be how the calculator represents each sample, due to a lack of proper components. I wish there was one we could use that utilized aDNA components, instead of broad modern ones.

Distance to:ETM025
19.72977952Swedish
19.80550933Norwegian
20.04934413Finnish
20.09554179FIN30
20.23482641Lithuanian
20.45713079Lithuanians
20.59024283Belorussian
21.07128378Orkney
21.37246359Polish
21.41991130Orcadian
21.67538235British_Isles
21.68552974Irish
21.73131841Argyll
21.75463629British
22.11054500Russian
22.15596308Russian_B
22.72769676English
22.92868509Kent
22.94992375Mixed_Slav
22.97748028CEU30
23.23992685Dutch
23.35047323Cornwall
23.37188054Russian
23.83330653Ukranians
23.83665664German
 
Yes ,
But i got to admitt pretty cool
That IKI017 is close to cyprus 😉
All thanks to your great work jovialis👍
 
Mine:
Distance to:angela
18.98781978ETM021
24.43742621TIT015
29.18889344ALA009
32.32864210IKI017
36.77783708IKI032
36.88810106IKI024
36.93307732TIT025
37.96534341IKI009
38.23801512IKI002
40.11975822IKI020
41.52277688CBT018
42.61370202ETM015
43.23028221CBT001
43.32651959IKI019
43.77825830CBT003
43.78967001IKI038
43.80520289ART014_PE
44.14340721KRD001
44.23758357IKI036
44.26084726CBT014
44.51021456ART014_SR
44.87785088ART024_PE
45.36748836TIT003
45.43779924ART024_SR
45.51639485ART005_PE
 
Angela said:
Mine:
Distance to:angela
18.98781978ETM021
24.43742621TIT015
29.18889344ALA009
32.32864210IKI017
36.77783708IKI032
36.88810106IKI024
36.93307732TIT025
37.96534341IKI009
38.23801512IKI002
40.11975822IKI020
41.52277688CBT018
42.61370202ETM015
43.23028221CBT001
43.32651959IKI019
43.77825830CBT003
43.78967001IKI038
43.80520289ART014_PE
44.14340721KRD001
44.23758357IKI036
44.26084726CBT014
44.51021456ART014_SR
44.87785088ART024_PE
45.36748836TIT003
45.43779924ART024_SR
45.51639485ART005_PE
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You're not from there either Angela. :)
 
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