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  1. #76
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by olivand View Post
    I don't want to paste the long list of my ancient population and deep dive matches but my closest ancient populations turn out to be Visigoths and Illyrians. The latter match is based on skeletal remains dated to around 1600BC and found in present day Croatia (specifically the Veliki Vanik burial at Vrgorac). To label this genetic match Illyrian is contentious - from what I have read, Illyrians turn up for the first time in documented history much later, namely around the 6th century BC in the works of ancient Greeks. These people were considered to be barbarians and there's no consensus these people merged into a single ethnic entity; rather they seem to have been quite heterogeneous and didn't refer to themselves as Illyrian. Tentative evidence from archaeological experts suggests settlement in the Balkans of nomadic Indo-European peoples arriving during the Bronze Age from the steppe - especially around Dalmatia. But who these people were we don't know exactly and labelling the match Illyrian is pretty sloppy. I reckon, though can't be sure, that they would have originally come from Anatolia during the migration of early farmers across the southern routes of the Mediterranean - Greek sources also conjecture that Illyrians originally came from Anatolia.

    not knowing that much about R1b .......( even though my mother line is from it )

    it has been found in ancient illyrians as per the recent croatian paper
    (POP17) is a Copper Age sample that is R1b-L23. The Croatian Copper Age ran approximately from 2900 to 2500 BCE,

    and the Daunian sample ORD004 ( daunians are illyrians that went to Italy circa 1000BC )

    but the main Illyrian marker for over 2000 years is G2a2 , found also in tyrol, north-italy, austria, slovenia, croatia, bosnia

    which sample is your illyrian from croatia ......do you have an ID #
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-Z282

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    Regular Member olivand's Avatar
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    Thanks Hawk - so more related to the Bronze Age expansion rather than early farmer. Thanks for filling in an information gap!

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    Country: Australia

    Born in Australia, my father was from northern Netherlands, mother of middle english and scottish extract
    Ancient Populations
    Celt + Alemanni (2.993)
    Viking Norwegian + Celt (3.327)
    Alemanni + Saxon (3.62)
    Celt + Longobard (3.644)
    Viking Norwegian + Saxon (3.737)
    Viking Norwegian (4.427)
    Longobard (5.749)
    Celt (6.213)
    Alemanni (6.636)
    Saxon (6.657)
    Modern Populations
    1. Orcadian (5.526)
    2. West_Norwegian (5.739)
    3. North_Dutch (6.952)
    4. Norwegian (7.270)
    5. West_Scottish (7.546)
    6. Danish (7.859)
    7. Southeast_English (8.272)
    8. Southwest_English (8.502)

    Neolithic Age
    9. Copper Age Radovesice Czech
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.455
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    16. Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.846
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    26. Celto-Germanic Lingolsheim Alsace
    2335 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.419
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    39. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland
    2542 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.12
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    Early Bronze Age
    4. Bronze Age East Kent England
    1785 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.834
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    6. Bell Beaker Scotland
    2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.028
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    11. Bronze Age Oxfordshire England
    2030 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.517
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    18. Early Bronze Age Bad Zurzach Switzerland
    2170 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.028
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    24. Early Bronze Age Thames
    1800 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.375
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    34. Bronze Age Prague Jinonice Czech
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.841
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    Late Bronze Age

    29. Longniddry Bronze Age Scotland
    1100 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.563
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    33. Bronze Age Trumpington England
    1330 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.812
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    Iron Age


    21. Celtic Briton70 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.213
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    22. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire
    205 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.288
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    Roman Age
    3. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
    250 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.473
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    31. Alemanni Tribe Mausoleo Augusto
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.636
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    Dark Ages
    5. Late Iron Age Tollemosegard Denmark
    700 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.935
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    10. Merovingian Noble
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.505
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    12. Nordic Lombard
    580 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.749
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    23. Nordic Lombard
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.327
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    28. Nordic Lombard
    580 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.519
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    30. Nordic Lombard
    580 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.575
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    32. Anglo Saxon
    720 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.657
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    Medieval Age

    Medieval Denmark Odense
    1223 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.249
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    2. Norwegian Viking Iceland
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.427
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    7. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
    1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.184
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    8. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B
    1448 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.219
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    13. Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England
    998 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.779
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    14. Viking Norse Iceland
    935 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.788
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    15. Medieval Denmark Revshale
    1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.828
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    17. Viking Age Langeland Bogovej Denmark
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.917
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    19. Nordic Medieval Denmark
    1270 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.086
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    20. Viking Age Oland Sweden
    858 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.158
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    ​VMT


  4. #79
    Regular Member olivand's Avatar
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    Thanks for your helpful reply! I still find these archeogenetic matches quite confusing - but the specific samples for my Illyrian matches are 13313B and 13313C - there's no mention which haplogroups these particular samples carried. The genetic distance is also measured at 9.99 but matches with Visigothic Iberian, Late Roman Crytpa Balbi, Roman Empuries (Catalonia) and BA Mokrin Necropolis all feature lower genetic distance measures than these particulars Illyrian samples which MyTrueAncestry say I'm most related to. That seems incoherent to me!

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    latest MTA

    I removed all AD samples ......except SZ1 which should be bronze age period ie 1000BC as per DNA papers on the sample


    1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
    930 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.903 - R1
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    7. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.808 - I3313
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    8. Avar Szolad Hungary
    700 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.607 - SZ1
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    10. Scythian Southern Moldova
    290 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.904 - scy197b
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    13. Copper Age Szigetszentmiklos Hungary
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.09 - I7043
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    17. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.08 - I3313B
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    18. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.11 - I3313C
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    22. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.52 - MOK17
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    24. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.67 - MOK10
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    25. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
    800 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.8 - TAQ011
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    26. Etruria Iron Age Italy
    1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.88 - ETR013
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    29. Scythian Southern Moldova
    270 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.28 - scy192
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    30. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
    800 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.33 - TAQ009
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    31. Ancient Venosa Samnite
    400 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.39 - VEN016
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    32. Etruscan Populonia
    400 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.49 - POP001
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    33. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.52 - MOK26
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    37. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
    800 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - TAQ003
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    40. Scythian Southern Moldova
    290 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.22 - scy300
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    47. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.93 - MOK29
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    48. Scythian Southern Moldova
    290 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.94 - scy305
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    50. Etruria Iron Age Italy
    1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.12 - ETR003
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    52. Veliki Vanik Croatia Bronze Age
    1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.16 - I4332b
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    53. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
    2775 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.18 - I3499
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    56. Illyrian / Dalmatian
    1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.38 - I4332
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    57. Etruria Iron Age Italy
    1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.46 - ETR007
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    60. Copper Age Augsburg Bavaria
    2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.65 - I5017
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    Junior Member Akritas's Avatar
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    G-L14
    MtDNA haplogroup
    K14C

    Ethnic group
    Greek/Pontic
    Country: Sweden

    Hello from Akritas!

    This is my first post… so give me some slack 😁.

    Im pontic-greek with three grandparents who hail from ancient grek city of Trapezos, Trebizond (Modern Trabzon, Black Sea).
    I have a grandmother from eastern thrace.

    My resultat are clearly anatolian; hittite, pontic with a lot of eastern mediterranean results; amorites, minoan, philistine.

    I dont have a clue about the Hellenic-Roman results; pre roman settlers, slaves?

    My Deep Dive results gave:
    Hellenic Roman 38,9
    Minoan 34,3
    Hittite 10,2
    Amorites 9,03
    Roman 3,48
    Ancient Greek 2,18

    But feel free to analyze! I would appreciate any feedback.

    Y-DNA: G-L14
    Mtdna: K1a4c

    Ancient populations
    Hittite (4.191)
    Pontic + Hittite (6.866)
    Hellenic Roman + Amorite (9.335)
    Hellenic Roman + Hittite (9.411)
    Pontic + Amorite (9.877)
    Hellenic Roman (11.31)
    Hellenic Roman + Pontic (11.36)
    Amorite (12.56)
    Pontic (15.95)

    Modern populations
    1. Cyprian_Greek (10.67)
    2. Greek_Cretan (10.81)
    3. Turkish (11.53)
    4. Cypriot (11.82)
    5. Armenian (12.19)
    6. Greek_Azov (12.58)
    7. Assyrian (13.19)
    8. Turk (13.33)

    Top Matchens
    1. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Cyprian
    1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 2.832 - I6935
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    2. Anatolian Roman ANAS
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 3.954 - R71
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    3. Hittite Anatolia
    1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.191 - MA2206
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    4. Anatolian Roman ANAS
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.206 - R72
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    5. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.294 - R76
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    6. Bronze Age Hittite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.451 - ALA136E
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    7. Copper Age Anatolia
    3800 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.42 - I0184
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    8. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.802 - R78
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    9. Hellenic Roman Casale del Dolce
    145 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.167 - R123
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    10. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.518 - R38
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    11. Hittite Anatolia
    1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.813 - MA2205
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    12. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra
    99 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.151 - R39
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    13. Hellenic Roman ANAS
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.191 - R73
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    14. Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.197 - ALA138B
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    15. Amorite Alalakh Intramural Cemetery
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.2 - ALA128
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    16. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.398 - IKI037
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    17. Imperial Rome Viale Rossini
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.474 - R75
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    18. Anatolian Roman Casale del Dolce
    288 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.656 - R126
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    19. Ashkelon Canaanite/Hittite
    1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.741 - ASH033_ASH_LBA
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    20. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.76 - R43
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    21. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.986 - R81
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    22. Bronze Age Anatolia
    2050 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.194 - I2683
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    23. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.335 - R34
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    24. Hellenic Roman Isola Sacra
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.505 - R40
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    25. Bronze Age Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.82 - ALA110
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    26. Hellenic Roman Marcellino
    400 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.908 - R134
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    27. Hellenic Roman Empire VP
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.131 - R115
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    28. Amorite Alalakh
    1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.156 - ALA016
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    29. Anatolia Bronze Age
    1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.167 - I2495
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    30. Hellenic Roman Necropolis MR
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.356 - R1545
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    31. Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.485 - ALA030
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    32. Amorite Alalakh Infant
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.593 - ALA124
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    33. Anatolian/Hellenic Roman Isola Sacra
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.716 - R41
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    34. Bronze Age Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.777 - ALA131A
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    35. Imperial Rome Centocelle
    190 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.884 - R50
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    36. Middle Bronze Age Palace Ebla Syria
    1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.05 - ETM001
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    37. Copper Age Armenia
    4100 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.06 - I1632
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    38. Middle Bronze Age Ebla Syria
    1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.22 - ETM006
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    39. Ancient Alalakh
    1830 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.34 - ALA095
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    40. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.41 - IKI016
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    41. Amorite Mix Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.42 - ALA038
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    42. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.47 - R128
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    43. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.48 - IKI036
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    44. Ancient Alkhantepe Azerbaijan
    3720 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.49 - ALX002
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    45. Hellenistic Period Saifi Lebanon
    160 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.57 - SFI-5
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    46. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.67 - IKI002
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    47. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.73 - R30
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    48. Anatolian Roman Marcellino
    400 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.79 - R130
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    49. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.89 - IKI034
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    50. Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.89 - ALA131B
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    51. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon
    1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.97 - SI-53
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    52. Hittite Anatolia
    1675 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.1 - MA2200
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    53. Anatolian Roman Necropolis MR
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.11 - R1543
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    54. Middle Bronze Age Child Ebla Syria
    1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.25 - ETM004
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    55. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese
    580 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.31 - CL30
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    56. Amorite Alalakh
    1770 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.38 - ALA025
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    57. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.56 - R44
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    58. Anatolian Roman ANAS
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.6 - R70
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    59. Titris Hoyuk Anatolia
    2240 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.66 - TIT021
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    60. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.69 - IKI024
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    61. Amorite Outlier Child Alalakh
    1410 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.69 - ALA018
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    62. Hellenic Roman Marcellino
    400 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.75 - R133
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    63. Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - ALA037
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    64. Near East Outlier Imperial Rome ANAS
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.88 - R68
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    65. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.0 - IKI012
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    66. Roman Imperial Palestrina
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.22 - R436
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    67. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.22 - R1548
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    68. Latin Tribe Ardea
    650 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.26 - R850
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    69. Near East Outlier Imperial Rome ANAS
    200 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.33 - R67
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    70. Roman Caucasus Monterotondo
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.36 - R1551
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    71. Middle Bronze Age Ebla Syria
    1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.41 - ETM005
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    72. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.48 - R114
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    73. Hellenic Roman Marcellino
    400 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.54 - R137
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    74. Amorite Nobleman Alalakh
    1443 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.56 - ALA002
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    75. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
    1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.58 - I3405
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    Neolithic Age

    7. Copper Age Anatolia
    3800 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.42 - I0184
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    16. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.398 - IKI037
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    37. Copper Age Armenia
    4100 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.06 - I1632
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    40. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.41 - IKI016
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    43. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.48 - IKI036
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    44. Ancient Alkhantepe Azerbaijan
    3720 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.49 - ALX002
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    46. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
    3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.67 - IKI

    Early Bronze Age

    3. Hittite Anatolia
    1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.191 - MA2206
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    6. Bronze Age Hittite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.451 - ALA136E
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    11. Hittite Anatolia
    1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.813 - MA2205
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    14. Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.197 - ALA138B
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    15. Amorite Alalakh Intramural Cemetery
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.2 - ALA128
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    19. Ashkelon Canaanite/Hittite
    1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.741 - ASH033_ASH_LBA
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    22. Bronze Age Anatolia
    2050 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.194 - I2683
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    25. Bronze Age Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.82 - ALA110
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    28. Amorite Alalakh
    1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.156 - ALA016
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    29. Anatolia Bronze Age
    1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.167 - I2495
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    31. Amorite Alalakh
    1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.485 - ALA030
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    Late Bronze Age

    108. Ancient Alalakh
    1370 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.2 - ALA039
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    114. Mycenaean Peloponnese
    1350 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.38 - I9041
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    126. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
    800 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.14 - TAQ007
    Top 88 % match vs all users


    127. Ahskelon Canaanite
    1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.42 - ASH008_ASH_IA2
    Top 100 % match vs all users


    138. Ashkelon Philistine
    1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.95 - ASH068_ASH_IA1
    Top 88 % match vs all users


    139. Ashkelon Philistine Minoan
    1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.99 - ASH067_ASH_IA1
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    148. Ashkelon Philistine
    1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.66 - ASH066_ASH_IA1
    Top 95 % match vs all users


    149. Mycenaean Salamis
    1335 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.74 - I9006
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    168. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
    800 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.61 - TAQ003
    Top 79 % match vs all users

    Iron Age

    45. Hellenistic Period Saifi Lebanon
    160 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.57 - SFI-5
    Top 100 % match vs all users


    68. Latin Tribe Ardea
    650 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.26 - R850
    Top 96 % match vs all users


    77. Ancient Venosa Italy
    600 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.74 - VEN018
    Top 15 % match vs all users


    92. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
    468 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.19 - SFI-42
    Top 96 % match vs all users


    101. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
    500 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.56 - SFI-50
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    121. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
    500 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.8 - SFI-47
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    150. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
    500 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.84 - SFI-34
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    161. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
    500 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.3 - SFI-39
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    167. Ancient Venosa Samnite
    400 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.57 - VEN013
    Top 89 % match vs all users


    173. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS
    300 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.99 - R437
    Top 91 % match vs all users


    188. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia
    165 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.76 - MA2198
    Top 96 % match vs all users

  7. #82
    Junior Member
    Join Date
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    Posts
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    Country: Finland

    I'm finnish with my father from Lieksa, North Karelia and my mother from Siikalatva, North Ostrobothnia.

    Viking + Oeselian (12.76)
    Oeselian + Avar (12.97)
    Viking + Avar (13.29)
    Viking + Scythian (13.56)
    Oeselian + Scythian (14.06)
    Viking (16.12)
    Oeselian (19.38)
    Scythian (19.69)

    1. Finnish (9.410)
    2. East_Finnish (11.34)
    3. Southwest_Finnish (12.63)
    4. North_Swedish (12.85)
    5. German_Central (15.88)
    6. Estonian (16.24)
    7. Swedish (17.88)
    8. Ukrainian (18.69)

    Viking Boat Burial Iceland
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2aY-DNA Haplogroup: I1a1b1a1a1 (FGC21819)
    Deep Dive Match! 75% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
    Genetic Distance: 20.069
    Sample Match! 45% closer than other users

    Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a1b1a (S375/Z372)
    Genetic Distance: 21.364
    Sample Match! 36% closer than other users

    Scythian Ukraine
    mtDNA Haplogroup: J2b1a6Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a2b1 (L199.3/L443.3/L675.3/PF5371.3)
    Deep Dive Match! 41% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
    Genetic Distance: 21.013
    Sample Match! 61% closer than other users

    Scythian Ukraine
    mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
    Deep Dive Match! 2% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
    Genetic Distance: 19.697
    Sample Match! 73% closer than other users

    Western Scythian Ukraine
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H11b
    Genetic Distance: 21.765
    Sample Match! 32% closer than other users

    Sala Silver Mine Sweden
    mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a (L388/PF6468)
    Genetic Distance: 14.538
    Sample Match! 93% closer than other users

    Viking Settler Brattahlid Farm Greenland
    mtDNA Haplogroup: J1c3bY-DNA Haplogroup: K2b2a
    Genetic Distance: 14.266
    Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

    Early Hanseatic HGH Luebeck Germany
    mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a1a2a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
    Genetic Distance: 15.490
    Sample Match! 94% closer than other users

    Gleb Svyatoslavich Prince of Novgorod Rurik Dynasty
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H5a2aY-DNA Haplogroup: I2a1a2b1a1a2 (Y4460)
    Genetic Distance: 20.042
    Sample Match! 83% closer than other users

    Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England
    mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a4dY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a2b2b (Z16372)
    Genetic Distance: 21.150
    Sample Match! 44% closer than other users

    Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H1a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: I1 (CTS5887/Z2792)
    Genetic Distance: 21.388
    Sample Match! 45% closer than other users

    Young Merovingian Noble
    mtDNA Haplogroup: H65aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b2b (S1743/Z331)
    Genetic Distance: 21.751
    Sample Match! 32% closer than other users

    Syltholm Neolithic Denmark
    mtDNA Haplogroup: K1e
    Genetic Distance: 20.671
    Sample Match! 95% closer than other users

  8. #83
    Junior Member
    Join Date
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    Country: Greece

    Avar Szolad Hungary
    700 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.17
    Top 100 % match vs all users

    2. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 8.172
    Top 100 % match vs all users


    3. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
    1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.99
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 11.11
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    5. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.27
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 11.87
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    905 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.98
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 12.04
    Top 0 % match vs all users


    9. Medieval Collalto Sabino Italy Plague Victim
    1700 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.67
    Top 100 % match vs all users

    10. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 12.71
    Top 100 % match vs all users


    11. Byzantine Roman Warrior
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.71
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    12. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.19
    Top 100 % match vs all users


    13. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.44
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    14. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.44
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    15. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.45
    Top 98 % match vs all users

    16. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.56
    Top 100 % match vs all users


    17. Central Roman
    630 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.63
    Top 96 % match vs all users

    18. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.76
    Top 97 % match vs all users


    19. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
    930 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.03
    Top 95 % match vs all users

    20. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 14.03
    Top 99 % match vs all users

  9. #84
    Regular Member Wheal's Avatar
    Join Date
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    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    371

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    Pat-U106-H11a10
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H5a1b

    Ethnic group
    a true mutt
    Country: USA - Illinois

    Neolithic Age
    -Copper Age Irlbach Straubing-Bogen Bavaria --2250 BC - 4.978 - I5834
    -Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 5.097 - I7211
    -Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech --2350 BC - 6.799 - I7276
    -Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech --2350 BC - 7.278 - I7278
    -Copper Age Irlbach Straubing-Bogen Bavaria --2250 BC - 8.056 - I6590
    -Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 8.634 - I7282
    -Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech --2215 BC - 8.655 - I4896
    -Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 9.08 - I7214
    -Copper Age Irlbach Straubing-Bogen Bavaria --2250 BC - 9.487 - I6591
    -Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 9.759 - I7289

    Early Bronze Age
    -Bell Beaker Scotland --2145 BC - 5.707 - I5471
    -Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy --1813 BC - 7.303 - I4889
    -Bell Beaker Scotland --2100 BC - 7.479 - I2568
    -Bronze Age Miskovice Czech --1680 BC - 7.897 - PMI009
    -Glavanesti Bronze Age Romania --2000 BC - 7.978 - I11913
    -Bell Beaker Southern France --2050 BC - 8.329 - I3875
    -Bronze Age Czech Velke Prilepy --2100 BC - 8.419 - I5035
    -Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech --2122 BC - 8.437 - I4886
    -Bronze Age Bell Beaker Kolin Czech --1900 BC - 8.465 - KOP002
    -Bronze Age Raciborz-Stara Wies Poland --2170 BC - 8.671 - I6537

    Late Bronze Age
    -Middle Bronze Age Vlineves Bohemia CWC --1300 BC - 7.568 - VLI053

    Iron Age
    -Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire --205 BC - 8.142 - Linton
    -Iron Age Kesznyeten-Szeruskert Hungary --480 BC - 8.53 - I20767
    -Cambridgeshire Iron Age --205 BC - 8.563 - 15594A
    -Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age --67 BC - 8.585 - HI1
    -Iron Age Chemin de Coupetz Marne France --250 BC - 9.271 - I19356
    -Iron Age Grofove njive Slovenia --575 BC - 9.663 - I5690

    Roman Age
    -Iron Age Gerdrup Denmark -- 400 AD - 7.481 - VK213
    -Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York -- 250 AD - 9.419 - 6DRIF-18

    Dark Ages

    -Visigoth Germanic Girona --550 AD - 5.712 - I12162
    -Frankish / Hungary --590 AD - 6.654 - SZ23
    -Saxon Hinxton --720 AD - 7.94 - HinxtonO1
    -Visigoth Frankish Girona --550 AD - 8.279 - I12032
    -Nordic Lombard --590 AD - 8.907 - SZ15
    -Young Merovingian Noble --605 AD - 9.039 - NS6
    -Germanic Lombard --590 AD - 9.124 - SZ42
    -Germanic Lombard Szolad --590 AD - 9.448 - SZ3


    Medieval Age

    -Medieval Norway Oslo; 1350 AD - 7.768 - OSL1C
    -Danish-Celtic Medieval Denmark; 1270 AD - 7.794 - G712b
    -Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford; 1002 AD - 7.898 - VK166
    -North Sea Medieval Denmark;1250 AD - 8.217 - G417
    -Germanic Medieval Denmark;1250 AD - 8.42 - G1065
    -Medieval Netherlands Plague II; 1360 AD - 8.665 - Ber45 ?
    -Viking Age Skara Varnhem Sweden; 1050 AD - 8.788 - VK42
    -North Sea Medieval Denmark; 1270 AD - 9.448 - G314
    -Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden - 975 AD - 9.861 - VK468
    -Viking Saxon Iceland; 1104 AD - 9.942 - TSK-A26

    Early Modern Period
    -Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer; 1678 AD - 8.734 - KOV-A2;

  10. #85
    Regular Member
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    Country: Croatia

    - I have checked results from Greeks, Macedonians, Albanians, Serbians, Croatians and Bulgarians, but so far none have individual samples with a GD under 10, meaning either that the matching ancient population hasn't been tested yet or that no pre-medieval population corresponds to their modern admixture (a likely scenario in the Balkans considering the to the region in the Middle Ages).
    550 AD is middle ages xD But I have gotten a 6.699 match (says top 100% match of all users) for Visigoth mixed Slav found in Girona 550 AD.
    And this kind of brings up some questions from my side.
    I have gotten 7.9% Iberian on MyHeritage which is also surprising, and this Visigoth on MyTrueAncestry is sort of connected maybe?
    My known family tree is up to my greatgrandpa/mas (1900s) and all have -ić last names and Croat first names.

    The antiquity test of the forum gave me Ostrogoths as the closest for late antiquity&middle ages at 11.129

    The ancient relative thing on MyTrueAncestry also showed as my top match an Alemanni dude with 10.73cM in common.

    As I said, my family tree knows no one that isn't a Croat. No any foreig nsounding last names or first names. So I found the Ibearian completely wtf, I feel I would have to know if I had 8% of it. It would be my greatgreatgrandpa/ma, but I have none any simmilar to it.

    K13 model showed me to have 56.5 Slavic, 32.2 Paleo Balkan&Roman and 11.2 Germanic, and 0.1 Turkic.

    So, I have
    7.9% Iberian - MyHeritage
    11.2% Germanic - K13
    Closest match MyTrueAncestry - Visigoth mixed with Slav in Girona
    Late antiquity closest - Ostrogoths

    My match on the K13 is also Croat_South 3.007, then Croat_West 3.0386. Which is correct.
    Most of my family comes from Western Herzegovina, 2 greatgrandmas from Dalmatia.

    Interesting thing is that Dalmatia was inhabited by Goths and Alemanni tribes after Valens brought them over the Danube.
    Is it plausible to believe I have Gothic blood from some remnant pockets of their movements?
    I find it hard to believe I have Spanish or Portugues blood as MyHeritage claims. I got no North African or Irish results to go along with Iberian as modern Iberian residents get.

    Quote Originally Posted by olivand View Post
    I don't want to paste the long list of my ancient population and deep dive matches but my closest ancient populations turn out to be Visigoths and Illyrians. The latter match is based on skeletal remains dated to around 1600BC and found in present day Croatia (specifically the Veliki Vanik burial at Vrgorac)..
    My greatgrandma comes from Vrgorac and I got Visigoth as well. But not the same one :P
    Last edited by kile; 12-01-22 at 16:39.

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