MyTrueAncestry - closest modern countries to ancient ethnicities

[torzio]

I don't want to paste the long list of my ancient population and deep dive matches but my closest ancient populations turn out to be Visigoths and Illyrians. The latter match is based on skeletal remains dated to around 1600BC and found in present day Croatia (specifically the Veliki Vanik burial at Vrgorac). To label this genetic match Illyrian is contentious - from what I have read, Illyrians turn up for the first time in documented history much later, namely around the 6th century BC in the works of ancient Greeks. These people were considered to be barbarians and there's no consensus these people merged into a single ethnic entity; rather they seem to have been quite heterogeneous and didn't refer to themselves as Illyrian. Tentative evidence from archaeological experts suggests settlement in the Balkans of nomadic Indo-European peoples arriving during the Bronze Age from the steppe - especially around Dalmatia. But who these people were we don't know exactly and labelling the match Illyrian is pretty sloppy. I reckon, though can't be sure, that they would have originally come from Anatolia during the migration of early farmers across the southern routes of the Mediterranean - Greek sources also conjecture that Illyrians originally came from Anatolia.

not knowing that much about R1b .......( even though my mother line is from it )

it has been found in ancient illyrians as per the recent croatian paper
(POP17) is a Copper Age sample that is R1b-L23. The Croatian Copper Age ran approximately from 2900 to 2500 BCE,

and the Daunian sample ORD004 ( daunians are illyrians that went to Italy circa 1000BC )

but the main Illyrian marker for over 2000 years is G2a2 , found also in tyrol, north-italy, austria, slovenia, croatia, bosnia

which sample is your illyrian from croatia ......do you have an ID #

[olivand]

Thanks Hawk - so more related to the Bronze Age expansion rather than early farmer. Thanks for filling in an information gap!

[Steve-Aust]

Born in Australia, my father was from northern Netherlands, mother of middle english and scottish extract
Ancient Populations
Celt + Alemanni (2.993)
Viking Norwegian + Celt (3.327)
Alemanni + Saxon (3.62)
Celt + Longobard (3.644)
Viking Norwegian + Saxon (3.737)
Viking Norwegian (4.427)
Longobard (5.749)
Celt (6.213)
Alemanni (6.636)
Saxon (6.657)
Modern Populations
1. Orcadian (5.526)
2. West_Norwegian (5.739)
3. North_Dutch (6.952)
4. Norwegian (7.270)
5. West_Scottish (7.546)
6. Danish (7.859)
7. Southeast_English (8.272)
8. Southwest_English (8.502)

Neolithic Age
9. Copper Age Radovesice Czech
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.455
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16. Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.846
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95 %

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26. Celto-Germanic Lingolsheim Alsace
2335 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.419
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96 %

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39. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland
2542 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.12
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Early Bronze Age
4. Bronze Age East Kent England
1785 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.834
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6. Bell Beaker Scotland
2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.028
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11. Bronze Age Oxfordshire England
2030 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.517
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18. Early Bronze Age Bad Zurzach Switzerland
2170 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.028
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24. Early Bronze Age Thames
1800 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.375
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86 %

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34. Bronze Age Prague Jinonice Czech
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.841
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Late Bronze Age

29. Longniddry Bronze Age Scotland
1100 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.563
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33. Bronze Age Trumpington England
1330 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.812
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Iron Age


21. Celtic Briton70 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.213
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22. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire
205 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.288
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90 %

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Roman Age
3. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.473
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98 %

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31. Alemanni Tribe Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.636
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99 %

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Dark Ages
5. Late Iron Age Tollemosegard Denmark
700 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.935
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10. Merovingian Noble
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.505
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12. Nordic Lombard
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.749
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23. Nordic Lombard
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.327
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28. Nordic Lombard
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.519
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30. Nordic Lombard
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.575
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32. Anglo Saxon
720 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.657
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Medieval Age

Medieval Denmark Odense
1223 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.249
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2. Norwegian Viking Iceland
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.427
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7. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.184
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8. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B
1448 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.219
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13. Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England
998 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.779
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14. Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.788
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15. Medieval Denmark Revshale
1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.828
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17. Viking Age Langeland Bogovej Denmark
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.917
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96 %

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19. Nordic Medieval Denmark
1270 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.086
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20. Viking Age Oland Sweden
858 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.158
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​VMT

[olivand]

Thanks for your helpful reply! I still find these archeogenetic matches quite confusing - but the specific samples for my Illyrian matches are 13313B and 13313C - there's no mention which haplogroups these particular samples carried. The genetic distance is also measured at 9.99 but matches with Visigothic Iberian, Late Roman Crytpa Balbi, Roman Empuries (Catalonia) and BA Mokrin Necropolis all feature lower genetic distance measures than these particulars Illyrian samples which MyTrueAncestry say I'm most related to. That seems incoherent to me!

[torzio]

latest MTA

I removed all AD samples ......except SZ1 which should be bronze age period ie 1000BC as per DNA papers on the sample


1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.903 - R1
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7. Illyrian / Dalmatian
1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.808 - I3313
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8. Avar Szolad Hungary
700 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.607 - SZ1
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10. Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.904 - scy197b
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13. Copper Age Szigetszentmiklos Hungary
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.09 - I7043
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17. Illyrian / Dalmatian
1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.08 - I3313B
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18. Illyrian / Dalmatian
1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.11 - I3313C
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22. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.52 - MOK17
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24. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.67 - MOK10
Top 92 % match vs all users



25. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
800 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.8 - TAQ011
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26. Etruria Iron Age Italy
1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.88 - ETR013
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29. Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.28 - scy192
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30. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
800 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.33 - TAQ009
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31. Ancient Venosa Samnite
400 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.39 - VEN016
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32. Etruscan Populonia
400 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.49 - POP001
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33. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.52 - MOK26
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37. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
800 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - TAQ003
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40. Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.22 - scy300
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47. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.93 - MOK29
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48. Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.94 - scy305
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50. Etruria Iron Age Italy
1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.12 - ETR003
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52. Veliki Vanik Croatia Bronze Age
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.16 - I4332b
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53. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
2775 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.18 - I3499
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56. Illyrian / Dalmatian
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.38 - I4332
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57. Etruria Iron Age Italy
1000 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.46 - ETR007
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60. Copper Age Augsburg Bavaria
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.65 - I5017
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[Akritas]

Hello from Akritas!

This is my first post… so give me some slack 😁.

Im pontic-greek with three grandparents who hail from ancient grek city of Trapezos, Trebizond (Modern Trabzon, Black Sea).
I have a grandmother from eastern thrace.

My resultat are clearly anatolian; hittite, pontic with a lot of eastern mediterranean results; amorites, minoan, philistine.

I dont have a clue about the Hellenic-Roman results; pre roman settlers, slaves?

My Deep Dive results gave:
Hellenic Roman 38,9
Minoan 34,3
Hittite 10,2
Amorites 9,03
Roman 3,48
Ancient Greek 2,18

But feel free to analyze! I would appreciate any feedback.

Y-DNA: G-L14
Mtdna: K1a4c

Ancient populations
Hittite (4.191)
Pontic + Hittite (6.866)
Hellenic Roman + Amorite (9.335)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (9.411)
Pontic + Amorite (9.877)
Hellenic Roman (11.31)
Hellenic Roman + Pontic (11.36)
Amorite (12.56)
Pontic (15.95)

Modern populations
1. Cyprian_Greek (10.67)
2. Greek_Cretan (10.81)
3. Turkish (11.53)
4. Cypriot (11.82)
5. Armenian (12.19)
6. Greek_Azov (12.58)
7. Assyrian (13.19)
8. Turk (13.33)

Top Matchens
1. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Cyprian
1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 2.832 - I6935
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2. Anatolian Roman ANAS
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 3.954 - R71
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3. Hittite Anatolia
1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.191 - MA2206
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4. Anatolian Roman ANAS
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.206 - R72
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5. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 4.294 - R76
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6. Bronze Age Hittite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.451 - ALA136E
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7. Copper Age Anatolia
3800 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.42 - I0184
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8. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.802 - R78
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9. Hellenic Roman Casale del Dolce
145 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.167 - R123
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10. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.518 - R38
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11. Hittite Anatolia
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.813 - MA2205
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12. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra
99 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.151 - R39
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13. Hellenic Roman ANAS
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.191 - R73
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14. Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.197 - ALA138B
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15. Amorite Alalakh Intramural Cemetery
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.2 - ALA128
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16. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.398 - IKI037
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17. Imperial Rome Viale Rossini
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.474 - R75
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18. Anatolian Roman Casale del Dolce
288 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.656 - R126
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19. Ashkelon Canaanite/Hittite
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.741 - ASH033_ASH_LBA
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20. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.76 - R43
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21. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.986 - R81
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22. Bronze Age Anatolia
2050 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.194 - I2683
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23. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.335 - R34
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24. Hellenic Roman Isola Sacra
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.505 - R40
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25. Bronze Age Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.82 - ALA110
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26. Hellenic Roman Marcellino
400 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.908 - R134
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27. Hellenic Roman Empire VP
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.131 - R115
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28. Amorite Alalakh
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.156 - ALA016
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29. Anatolia Bronze Age
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.167 - I2495
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30. Hellenic Roman Necropolis MR
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.356 - R1545
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31. Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.485 - ALA030
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32. Amorite Alalakh Infant
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.593 - ALA124
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33. Anatolian/Hellenic Roman Isola Sacra
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.716 - R41
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34. Bronze Age Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.777 - ALA131A
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35. Imperial Rome Centocelle
190 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.884 - R50
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36. Middle Bronze Age Palace Ebla Syria
1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.05 - ETM001
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37. Copper Age Armenia
4100 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.06 - I1632
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38. Middle Bronze Age Ebla Syria
1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.22 - ETM006
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39. Ancient Alalakh
1830 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.34 - ALA095
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40. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.41 - IKI016
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41. Amorite Mix Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.42 - ALA038
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42. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.47 - R128
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43. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.48 - IKI036
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44. Ancient Alkhantepe Azerbaijan
3720 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.49 - ALX002
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45. Hellenistic Period Saifi Lebanon
160 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.57 - SFI-5
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46. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.67 - IKI002
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47. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.73 - R30
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48. Anatolian Roman Marcellino
400 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.79 - R130
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49. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.89 - IKI034
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50. Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.89 - ALA131B
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51. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.97 - SI-53
Top 84 % match vs all users


52. Hittite Anatolia
1675 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.1 - MA2200
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53. Anatolian Roman Necropolis MR
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.11 - R1543
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54. Middle Bronze Age Child Ebla Syria
1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.25 - ETM004
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55. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.31 - CL30
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56. Amorite Alalakh
1770 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.38 - ALA025
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57. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.56 - R44
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58. Anatolian Roman ANAS
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.6 - R70
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59. Titris Hoyuk Anatolia
2240 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.66 - TIT021
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60. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.69 - IKI024
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61. Amorite Outlier Child Alalakh
1410 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.69 - ALA018
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62. Hellenic Roman Marcellino
400 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.75 - R133
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63. Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - ALA037
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64. Near East Outlier Imperial Rome ANAS
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.88 - R68
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65. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.0 - IKI012
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66. Roman Imperial Palestrina
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.22 - R436
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67. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.22 - R1548
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68. Latin Tribe Ardea
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.26 - R850
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69. Near East Outlier Imperial Rome ANAS
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.33 - R67
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70. Roman Caucasus Monterotondo
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.36 - R1551
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71. Middle Bronze Age Ebla Syria
1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.41 - ETM005
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72. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.48 - R114
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73. Hellenic Roman Marcellino
400 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.54 - R137
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74. Amorite Nobleman Alalakh
1443 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.56 - ALA002
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75. Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
1805 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.58 - I3405
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Neolithic Age

7. Copper Age Anatolia
3800 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.42 - I0184
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16. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.398 - IKI037
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37. Copper Age Armenia
4100 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.06 - I1632
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40. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.41 - IKI016
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43. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.48 - IKI036
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44. Ancient Alkhantepe Azerbaijan
3720 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.49 - ALX002
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46. Ikiztepe Black Sea Anatolia
3300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.67 - IKI

Early Bronze Age

3. Hittite Anatolia
1875 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.191 - MA2206
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6. Bronze Age Hittite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.451 - ALA136E
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11. Hittite Anatolia
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.813 - MA2205
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14. Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.197 - ALA138B
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15. Amorite Alalakh Intramural Cemetery
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.2 - ALA128
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19. Ashkelon Canaanite/Hittite
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.741 - ASH033_ASH_LBA
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22. Bronze Age Anatolia
2050 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.194 - I2683
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25. Bronze Age Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.82 - ALA110
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28. Amorite Alalakh
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.156 - ALA016
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29. Anatolia Bronze Age
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.167 - I2495
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31. Amorite Alalakh
1685 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.485 - ALA030
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Late Bronze Age

108. Ancient Alalakh
1370 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.2 - ALA039
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114. Mycenaean Peloponnese
1350 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.38 - I9041
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126. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
800 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.14 - TAQ007
Top 88 % match vs all users


127. Ahskelon Canaanite
1200 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.42 - ASH008_ASH_IA2
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138. Ashkelon Philistine
1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.95 - ASH068_ASH_IA1
Top 88 % match vs all users


139. Ashkelon Philistine Minoan
1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.99 - ASH067_ASH_IA1
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148. Ashkelon Philistine
1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.66 - ASH066_ASH_IA1
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149. Mycenaean Salamis
1335 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.74 - I9006
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168. Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
800 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.61 - TAQ003
Top 79 % match vs all users

Iron Age

45. Hellenistic Period Saifi Lebanon
160 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.57 - SFI-5
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68. Latin Tribe Ardea
650 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.26 - R850
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77. Ancient Venosa Italy
600 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.74 - VEN018
Top 15 % match vs all users


92. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
468 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.19 - SFI-42
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101. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
500 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.56 - SFI-50
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121. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
500 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.8 - SFI-47
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150. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
500 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.84 - SFI-34
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161. Achaemenid Empire Saifi Lebanon
500 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.3 - SFI-39
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167. Ancient Venosa Samnite
400 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.57 - VEN013
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173. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.99 - R437
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188. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia
165 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.76 - MA2198
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[Julkka]

I'm finnish with my father from Lieksa, North Karelia and my mother from Siikalatva, North Ostrobothnia.

Viking + Oeselian (12.76)
Oeselian + Avar (12.97)
Viking + Avar (13.29)
Viking + Scythian (13.56)
Oeselian + Scythian (14.06)
Viking (16.12)
Oeselian (19.38)
Scythian (19.69)

1. Finnish (9.410)
2. East_Finnish (11.34)
3. Southwest_Finnish (12.63)
4. North_Swedish (12.85)
5. German_Central (15.88)
6. Estonian (16.24)
7. Swedish (17.88)
8. Ukrainian (18.69)

Viking Boat Burial Iceland
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2a2aY-DNA Haplogroup: I1a1b1a1a1 (FGC21819)
Deep Dive Match! 75% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 20.069
Sample Match! 45% closer than other users

Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
mtDNA Haplogroup: H4a1a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a1b1a (S375/Z372)
Genetic Distance: 21.364
Sample Match! 36% closer than other users

Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: J2b1a6Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a2b1 (L199.3/L443.3/L675.3/PF5371.3)
Deep Dive Match! 41% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 21.013
Sample Match! 61% closer than other users

Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
Deep Dive Match! 2% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 19.697
Sample Match! 73% closer than other users

Western Scythian Ukraine
mtDNA Haplogroup: H11b
Genetic Distance: 21.765
Sample Match! 32% closer than other users

Sala Silver Mine Sweden
mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a (L388/PF6468)
Genetic Distance: 14.538
Sample Match! 93% closer than other users

Viking Settler Brattahlid Farm Greenland
mtDNA Haplogroup: J1c3bY-DNA Haplogroup: K2b2a
Genetic Distance: 14.266
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users

Early Hanseatic HGH Luebeck Germany
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a1a2a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 15.490
Sample Match! 94% closer than other users

Gleb Svyatoslavich Prince of Novgorod Rurik Dynasty
mtDNA Haplogroup: H5a2aY-DNA Haplogroup: I2a1a2b1a1a2 (Y4460)
Genetic Distance: 20.042
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users

Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a4dY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a2b2b (Z16372)
Genetic Distance: 21.150
Sample Match! 44% closer than other users

Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
mtDNA Haplogroup: H1a1Y-DNA Haplogroup: I1 (CTS5887/Z2792)
Genetic Distance: 21.388
Sample Match! 45% closer than other users

Young Merovingian Noble
mtDNA Haplogroup: H65aY-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a1c2b2b (S1743/Z331)
Genetic Distance: 21.751
Sample Match! 32% closer than other users

Syltholm Neolithic Denmark
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1e
Genetic Distance: 20.671
Sample Match! 95% closer than other users

[Mike13]

Avar Szolad Hungary
700 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.17
Top 100 % match vs all users

2. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 8.172
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3. Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.99
Top 99 % match vs all users

4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 11.11
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5. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.27
Top 99 % match vs all users

6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 11.87
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7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
905 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.98
Top 99 % match vs all users

8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 12.04
Top 0 % match vs all users


9. Medieval Collalto Sabino Italy Plague Victim
1700 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.67
Top 100 % match vs all users

10. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 12.71
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11. Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.71
Top 99 % match vs all users

12. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.19
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13. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.44
Top 99 % match vs all users

14. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.44
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15. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.45
Top 98 % match vs all users

16. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.56
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17. Central Roman
630 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.63
Top 96 % match vs all users

18. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 13.76
Top 97 % match vs all users


19. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.03
Top 95 % match vs all users

20. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ 14.03
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[Wheal]

Neolithic Age
-Copper Age Irlbach Straubing-Bogen Bavaria --2250 BC - 4.978 - I5834
-Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 5.097 - I7211
-Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech --2350 BC - 6.799 - I7276
-Copper Age Beaker Brandysek Czech --2350 BC - 7.278 - I7278
-Copper Age Irlbach Straubing-Bogen Bavaria --2250 BC - 8.056 - I6590
-Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 8.634 - I7282
-Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech --2215 BC - 8.655 - I4896
-Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 9.08 - I7214
-Copper Age Irlbach Straubing-Bogen Bavaria --2250 BC - 9.487 - I6591
-Copper Age Radovesice Czech --2350 BC - 9.759 - I7289

Early Bronze Age
-Bell Beaker Scotland --2145 BC - 5.707 - I5471
-Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy --1813 BC - 7.303 - I4889
-Bell Beaker Scotland --2100 BC - 7.479 - I2568
-Bronze Age Miskovice Czech --1680 BC - 7.897 - PMI009
-Glavanesti Bronze Age Romania --2000 BC - 7.978 - I11913
-Bell Beaker Southern France --2050 BC - 8.329 - I3875
-Bronze Age Czech Velke Prilepy --2100 BC - 8.419 - I5035
-Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech --2122 BC - 8.437 - I4886
-Bronze Age Bell Beaker Kolin Czech --1900 BC - 8.465 - KOP002
-Bronze Age Raciborz-Stara Wies Poland --2170 BC - 8.671 - I6537

Late Bronze Age
-Middle Bronze Age Vlineves Bohemia CWC --1300 BC - 7.568 - VLI053

Iron Age
-Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire --205 BC - 8.142 - Linton
-Iron Age Kesznyeten-Szeruskert Hungary --480 BC - 8.53 - I20767
-Cambridgeshire Iron Age --205 BC - 8.563 - 15594A
-Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age --67 BC - 8.585 - HI1
-Iron Age Chemin de Coupetz Marne France --250 BC - 9.271 - I19356
-Iron Age Grofove njive Slovenia --575 BC - 9.663 - I5690

Roman Age
-Iron Age Gerdrup Denmark -- 400 AD - 7.481 - VK213
-Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York -- 250 AD - 9.419 - 6DRIF-18

Dark Ages

-Visigoth Germanic Girona --550 AD - 5.712 - I12162
-Frankish / Hungary --590 AD - 6.654 - SZ23
-Saxon Hinxton --720 AD - 7.94 - HinxtonO1
-Visigoth Frankish Girona --550 AD - 8.279 - I12032
-Nordic Lombard --590 AD - 8.907 - SZ15
-Young Merovingian Noble --605 AD - 9.039 - NS6
-Germanic Lombard --590 AD - 9.124 - SZ42
-Germanic Lombard Szolad --590 AD - 9.448 - SZ3


Medieval Age

-Medieval Norway Oslo; 1350 AD - 7.768 - OSL1C
-Danish-Celtic Medieval Denmark; 1270 AD - 7.794 - G712b
-Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford; 1002 AD - 7.898 - VK166
-North Sea Medieval Denmark;1250 AD - 8.217 - G417
-Germanic Medieval Denmark;1250 AD - 8.42 - G1065
-Medieval Netherlands Plague II; 1360 AD - 8.665 - Ber45 ?
-Viking Age Skara Varnhem Sweden; 1050 AD - 8.788 - VK42
-North Sea Medieval Denmark; 1270 AD - 9.448 - G314
-Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden - 975 AD - 9.861 - VK468
-Viking Saxon Iceland; 1104 AD - 9.942 - TSK-A26

Early Modern Period
-Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer; 1678 AD - 8.734 - KOV-A2;

[kile]

- I have checked results from Greeks, Macedonians, Albanians, Serbians, Croatians and Bulgarians, but so far none have individual samples with a GD under 10, meaning either that the matching ancient population hasn't been tested yet or that no pre-medieval population corresponds to their modern admixture (a likely scenario in the Balkans considering the to the region in the Middle Ages).

550 AD is middle ages xD But I have gotten a 6.699 match (says top 100% match of all users) for Visigoth mixed Slav found in Girona 550 AD.
And this kind of brings up some questions from my side.
I have gotten 7.9% Iberian on MyHeritage which is also surprising, and this Visigoth on MyTrueAncestry is sort of connected maybe?
My known family tree is up to my greatgrandpa/mas (1900s) and all have -ić last names and Croat first names.

The antiquity test of the forum gave me Ostrogoths as the closest for late antiquity&middle ages at 11.129

The ancient relative thing on MyTrueAncestry also showed as my top match an Alemanni dude with 10.73cM in common.

As I said, my family tree knows no one that isn't a Croat. No any foreig nsounding last names or first names. So I found the Ibearian completely wtf, I feel I would have to know if I had 8% of it. It would be my greatgreatgrandpa/ma, but I have none any simmilar to it.

K13 model showed me to have 56.5 Slavic, 32.2 Paleo Balkan&Roman and 11.2 Germanic, and 0.1 Turkic.

So, I have
7.9% Iberian - MyHeritage
11.2% Germanic - K13
Closest match MyTrueAncestry - Visigoth mixed with Slav in Girona
Late antiquity closest - Ostrogoths

My match on the K13 is also Croat_South 3.007, then Croat_West 3.0386. Which is correct.
Most of my family comes from Western Herzegovina, 2 greatgrandmas from Dalmatia.

Interesting thing is that Dalmatia was inhabited by Goths and Alemanni tribes after Valens brought them over the Danube.
Is it plausible to believe I have Gothic blood from some remnant pockets of their movements?
I find it hard to believe I have Spanish or Portugues blood as MyHeritage claims. I got no North African or Irish results to go along with Iberian as modern Iberian residents get.

I don't want to paste the long list of my ancient population and deep dive matches but my closest ancient populations turn out to be Visigoths and Illyrians. The latter match is based on skeletal remains dated to around 1600BC and found in present day Croatia (specifically the Veliki Vanik burial at Vrgorac)..

My greatgrandma comes from Vrgorac and I got Visigoth as well. But not the same one :P

[Hesse]

Here are my Results:
Neolithic Age

21. Gotland Battleaxe Sweden
2790 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.126 - Ajvide54
Top 100 % match vs all users


38. Bell Beaker Germany
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.702 - I0806
Top 95 % match vs all users



39. Copper Age Radovesice Czech
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.799 - I7286
Top 98 % match vs all users



45. Ancient Gotlander Battleaxe
2750 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.31 - Ajvide58
Top 99 % match vs all users



56. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland
2660 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.77 - MX190
Top 77 % match vs all users



57. Neolithic Kivisaare Estonia
4630 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.88 - Kivisaare3
Top 0 % match vs all users
Early Bronze Age

5. Western Pomerania Unetice
2000 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.71 - Rise139
Top 100 % match vs all users


29. Bronze Age Czech Brandys nad Labem
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.09 - BNL004
Top 0 % match vs all users



32. Bell Beaker Czech
2150 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.279 - Rise567
Top 0 % match vs all users



33. Early Bronze Age Stodulky Mala Ohrada Prague Czech
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.5 - I13469
Top 0 % match vs all users



35. Bell Beaker Amesbury
2150 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.58 - I5512
Top 89 % match vs all users



43. Bell Beaker Oxford
2150 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.21 - I2443
Top 99 % match vs all users



44. Bronze Age Mikulovice Czech
1480 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.22 - MIB001
Top 0 % match vs all users



50. Corded Ware Plotiste nad Labem Czech
2100 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.54 - PNL002
Top 0 % match vs all users



51. Bronze Age Bell Beaker Kolin Czech
1580 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.6 - KO7002
Top 0 % match vs all users



52. Bronze Age Chieby Czech
1900 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.6 - CHL007
Top 0 % match vs all users
Iron Age

2. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.251 - I12106
Top 0 % match vs all users


3. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.538 - I5288
Top 0 % match vs all users



8. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.035 - I5287
Top 0 % match vs all users



13. Iron Age Celtic Hungary Jasz-Nagykun-Szolnok
235 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.15 - I18183
Top 0 % match vs all users



19. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.659 - I11719
Top 0 % match vs all users



20. Scythian Nograd County Hungary
600 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.755 - I25525
Top 0 % match vs all users



22. Western Scythian Ukraine
580 BC - Genetic Distance: 8.196 - MJ13
Top 100 % match vs all users



34. Scythian Ukraine
600 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.536 - scy006
Top 95 % match vs all users



42. Iron Age Prague Jinonice Central Bohemia
300 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.14 - I16272
Top 0 % match vs all users



47. Iron Age Zamardi Somogy Hungary
200 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.38 - I25509
Top 0 % match vs all users
Roman Age

14. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth
400 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.151 - MJ19
Top 100 % match vs all users



16. Iron Age Ingria
130 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.399 - VIII7
Top 100 % match vs all users
Dark Ages

31. Medieval Czech Brandysek
710 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.238 - Rise569
Top 100 % match vs all users


36. Early Slav-Mix Avar Grave
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.625 - AV1
Top 94 % match vs all users
Medieval Age

1. Viking Age Staraya Ladoga
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 2.157 - VK21
Top 100 % match vs all users


4. Viking Age Staraya Ladoga
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.674 - VK19
Top 100 % match vs all users



6. Viking Age Gotland Frojel Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.86 - VK457
Top 100 % match vs all users



7. Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.96 - VK473
Top 100 % match vs all users



9. Elite Warrior Pohansko Pohrebiste U Kostela Czech
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.492 - POH44A
Top 100 % match vs all users



10. Viking Age Galgedil Funen Denmark
925 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.511 - VK139
Top 100 % match vs all users



11. Viking Age Elite Warrior Bodzia Poland
1015 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.523 - VK157
Top 100 % match vs all users



12. Viking Age Gnezdovo Russia
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.687 - VK273
Top 100 % match vs all users



15. Viking Age Kaargarden Denmark
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.221 - VK274
Top 100 % match vs all users



17. Early Medieval Pohansko Moravia Czech
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.409 - POH41
Top 100 % match vs all users
Early Modern Period

30. Sala Silver Mine Sweden
1610 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.192 - Sk6866
Top 100 % match vs all users


40. Late Medieval Sirmium Serbia
1556 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.0 - R9662
Top 0 % match vs all users



49. Late Medieval Dome Churchyard Porvoo Finland
1727 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.51 - PD28_E1L1
Top 100 % match vs all users

[torzio]

550 AD is middle ages xD But I have gotten a 6.699 match (says top 100% match of all users) for Visigoth mixed Slav found in Girona 550 AD.
And this kind of brings up some questions from my side.
I have gotten 7.9% Iberian on MyHeritage which is also surprising, and this Visigoth on MyTrueAncestry is sort of connected maybe?
My known family tree is up to my greatgrandpa/mas (1900s) and all have -ić last names and Croat first names.

The antiquity test of the forum gave me Ostrogoths as the closest for late antiquity&middle ages at 11.129

The ancient relative thing on MyTrueAncestry also showed as my top match an Alemanni dude with 10.73cM in common.

As I said, my family tree knows no one that isn't a Croat. No any foreig nsounding last names or first names. So I found the Ibearian completely wtf, I feel I would have to know if I had 8% of it. It would be my greatgreatgrandpa/ma, but I have none any simmilar to it.

K13 model showed me to have 56.5 Slavic, 32.2 Paleo Balkan&Roman and 11.2 Germanic, and 0.1 Turkic.

So, I have
7.9% Iberian - MyHeritage
11.2% Germanic - K13
Closest match MyTrueAncestry - Visigoth mixed with Slav in Girona
Late antiquity closest - Ostrogoths

My match on the K13 is also Croat_South 3.007, then Croat_West 3.0386. Which is correct.
Most of my family comes from Western Herzegovina, 2 greatgrandmas from Dalmatia.

Interesting thing is that Dalmatia was inhabited by Goths and Alemanni tribes after Valens brought them over the Danube.
Is it plausible to believe I have Gothic blood from some remnant pockets of their movements?
I find it hard to believe I have Spanish or Portugues blood as MyHeritage claims. I got no North African or Irish results to go along with Iberian as modern Iberian residents get.



My greatgrandma comes from Vrgorac and I got Visigoth as well. But not the same one :P

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ostrogoth

[Hesse]

My 15 top matches:


1. Viking Age Staraya Ladoga
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 2.157 - VK21
Top 100 % match vs all users



2. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.251 - I12106
Top 0 % match vs all users



3. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.538 - I5288
Top 0 % match vs all users



4. Viking Age Staraya Ladoga
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.674 - VK19
Top 100 % match vs all users



5. Western Pomerania Unetice
2000 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.71 - Rise139
Top 100 % match vs all users



6. Viking Age Gotland Frojel Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.86 - VK457
Top 100 % match vs all users



7. Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 5.96 - VK473
Top 100 % match vs all users



8. Iron Age Vekerzug Komarno Slovakia
575 BC - Genetic Distance: 6.035 - I5287
Top 0 % match vs all users



9. Elite Warrior Pohansko Pohrebiste U Kostela Czech
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.492 - POH44A
Top 100 % match vs all users



10. Viking Age Galgedil Funen Denmark
925 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.511 - VK139
Top 100 % match vs all users



11. Viking Age Elite Warrior Bodzia Poland
1015 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.523 - VK157
Top 100 % match vs all users



12. Viking Age Gnezdovo Russia
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 6.687 - VK273
Top 100 % match vs all users



13. Iron Age Celtic Hungary Jasz-Nagykun-Szolnok
235 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.15 - I18183
Top 0 % match vs all users



14. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth
400 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.151 - MJ19
Top 100 % match vs all users



15. Viking Age Kaargarden Denmark
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 7.221 - VK274
Top 100 % match vs all users

Closest Ancient populations

Viking Danish + Early Slav (1.714)
Viking + Early Slav (3.346)
Viking + Scythian (5.239)
Viking Danish + Scythian (5.516)
Viking + Ostrogoth (5.753)
Ostrogoth (7.151)
Scythian (7.755)
Viking (8.325)
Viking Danish (11.73)
Early Slav (13.51)


Closest genetic modern populations:

1. Southwest_Finnish (7.341)
2. Czech (9.308)
3. East_German (10.03)
4. Finnish (11.31)
5. German_Central (11.37)
6. Polish (11.99)
7. South_Polish (12.83)
8. North_Swedish (12.89)

[ophiussa]

hi , i'm just a new arrival to the forums i been looking what is posting in here and i can say that the most close populations to Hallstatt la tene and Thrace-illyrians are the Iberian by far in any my true ancestry DNA results and in yourdnaportal calculators there is a blog , where you can see the results of my true ancestry samples anciente DNArelativesblogspot.com just take a look in google