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    Post MyTrueAncestry - closest modern countries to ancient ethnicities

    This thread is dedicated to comparing the the closest results of people from various European countries and regions to specific ancient archaeological cultures (e.g. Corded Ware, Unetice, Nordic Bronze Age, Villanovan, Hallstatt) or specific unmixed ethnic groups (Romans, Gauls, Franks, Saxons, Slavs, Scythians, Illyrians, etc.) using results from MyTrueAncestry.com (anybody can upload their genome for free). The idea is to make a list of ancient cultures and ethnicities and list the closest genetic distance found in each modern country (or region for large countries).

    How to participate

    Just go to MyTrueAncestry.com, click on 'Analysis Summary' => 'Ancient Samples Results' => 'Top 10 Samples by Era'. Copy and paste your result below, or send me a PM if you don't want to share them publicly. I will take the relevant matches with a genetic distance lower than 10 (if no one from your country has a lower score) and post it anonymously.

    Methodology

    - The results are not averages for each country. Only the closest individual result was selected (for each culture and ancient ethnic group). So the list represents the closest possible matches for each country.

    - A genetic distance (GD) smaller than 5 means that it is essentially the same ethnic group. A GD between 5 and 10 means that it is a closely related ethnic group ("cousin tribe"), or a modern population having non-predominant ancient ancestry (e.g. 30% of DNA inherited from that ethnic group).

    - As most populations have changed little since the Middle Ages, I have selected only results until the Late Antiquity (Dark Ages). For Italy, it is until the Roman Republic as Rome had become an ethnic melting pot by the time of the Empire.

    - Hybrid populations were excluded from the results. This includes Gallo-Roman, Celto-Germanic, Romano-Hispanic, Visigothic Iberian, etc.

    - I have rectified and reclassified samples that had been mislabelled by MyTrueAncestry.

    - I have checked results from Greeks, Macedonians, Albanians, Serbians, Croatians and Bulgarians, but so far none have individual samples with a GD under 10, meaning either that the matching ancient population hasn't been tested yet or that no pre-medieval population corresponds to their modern admixture (a likely scenario in the Balkans considering the large number of migrations to the region in the Middle Ages).

    Results

    NB: EBA = Early Bronze Age ; LBA = Late Bronze Age ; CWC = Corded Ware culture.

    1. Closest matches to modern European populations

    Modern Belgians - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - Unetice culture (Prague, Czechia) : 4.1
    - Bell Beaker Scotland : 5.8
    - Bell Beaker England : 6.2
    - Bronze Age England : 6.7
    - EBA Gaul (Bischwihr, Alsace, 1900 BCE) : 7.0
    - EBA Sicily (Buffa, 2191 BCE) : 7.0
    - LBA Scotland : 7.9
    - Corded Ware Switzerland (2660 BCE) : 7.9
    - North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BCE) : 8.8
    - Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BCE) : 9.5

    Modern Belgians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Lombard (Hungary) : 3.1
    - Frankish (Hungary) : 3.6
    - Visigoth Frankish (Girona, Spain) : 4.3
    - Belgic tribe (Colmar, Alsace, France) : 5.9
    - Alemannic Bavaria (450 CE) : 5.2
    - Saxon (Hinxton, England) : 6.1
    - Young Merovingian Noble : 6.7
    - Iron Age Briton (205 BCE) : 7.0
    - Swiss Germanic (580 CE) : 7.4
    - Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 CE) : 8.6


    Modern North Dutch - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - Bell Beaker England (Willington, 2100 BCE) : 2.8
    - EBA England (Thames, 1800 BCE) : 3.7
    - Bell Beaker Alsace (Lingolsheim, 2335 BCE) : 3.9
    - Bell Beaker Scottish Islands (2350 BCE) : 4.7
    - CWC Switzerland (2542 BCE) : 5.4
    - Unetice culture (Prague, 1813 BCE) : 5.5
    - EBA Poland (2175 BCE) : 6.3
    - Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BCE) : 7.3

    Modern North Dutch - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Nordic Lombard : 2.2
    - Saxon : 5.6
    - Anglo-Saxon (Oakington, 470 CE) : 5.7
    - Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (485 CE) : 5.8
    - Young Merovingian Noble (605 CE) : 6.4
    - Iron Age Briton (Linton, Cambridgeshire, 205 BCE) : 6.4


    Modern English - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BCE) : 4.1
    - Bell Beaker England (2250 BCE) : 4.6
    - LBA England (1000 BCE) : 5.4
    - Unetice culture (Prague, 1813 BCE) : 5.9
    - Late Bronze Age Scotland (900 BCE) : 6.1
    - Copper Age Ireland (1880 BCE) : 6.2
    - EBA Poland (Zerniki Wielkie, 2175 BCE) : 6.4
    - Corded Ware Sweden (2860 BCE) : 6.5
    - Bell Beaker Germany (Anselfingen, 2325 BCE) : 6.8
    - LBA Germany (1050 BCE) : 7.6
    - Nordic Bronze Age (Jutland, 1400 BCE) : 8.3
    - Bronze Age Scotland (Orkney, 1750 BCE) : 8.6

    Modern English - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Celtic Briton (250 CE) : 4.0
    - Nordic Lombard (590 CE) : 4.5
    - Frankish Hungary (590 CE) : 6.0
    - Alemannic Bavaria (495 CE) : 5.5
    - Scythian Moldova (290 BCE) : 7.4
    - Ostrogoth Nordic (520 CE) : 7.4
    - Saxon (Hinxton, 720 CE) : 7.5
    - Vandal Chieftain (375 CE) : 7.6
    - Iron Age Gaul (Bessan, 125 BCE) : 8.2
    - Anglo-Saxon (Oakington, 470 CE) : 8.4
    - Belgic Tribe (Nordhouse, Alsace 500 BCE) : 9.7

    Modern Welsh - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BCE) : 4.0
    - Bronze Age England (Amesbury, 1450 BCE) : 4.9
    - Bell Beaker England (2150 BCE) : 5.3
    - Bell Beaker Germany (Wehringen, 2250 BCE) : 6.0
    - North Alpine Bronze Age (1812 BCE) : 6.3
    - CWC/Battle-axe culture (Ollsjo, Sweden, 2860 BCE) : 6.4
    - EBA Switzerland (Wartau, 1815 BCE) : 6.5
    - CWC Switzerland (Spreitenbach, 2542 BCE) : 6.6
    - EBA Germany (Königsbrunn, 2046 BCE) : 6.7
    - Unetice culture (Czechia, 2050 BCE) : 6.8


    Modern Welsh - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Saxon : 4.5
    - Iron Age Briton (Hinxton, 45 BCE) : 5.0
    - Frankish : 5.8
    - Germanic Lombard (590 CE) : 6.4
    - Lugii tribe (Masiomecz, Poland, 300 CE) : 7.5
    - Vandal : 7.9
    - Anglo-Saxon (780 CE) : 7.9


    Modern Scottish - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - LBA England (1000 BCE) : 4.1
    - Bell Beaker England (Willington, 2100 BCE) : 4.5
    - LBA Scotland (900 BCE) : 4.8
    - Unetice culture (Prague, 1813 BCE) : 5.2
    - Corded Ware Alsace (2335 BCE) : 6.7
    - EBA Gaul (Bischwihr, Alsace 1900 BCE) : 6.9
    - Bell Beaker Scottish Islands (2350 BCE) : 7.1
    - North Alpine Bronze Age (1812 BCE) : 7.8
    - Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BCE) : 9.3

    Modern Scottish - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Iron Age Briton (1 CE) : 5.7
    - Nordic Lombard (590 CE) : 6.1
    - Merovingian Noble (605 CE) : 6.2
    - Saxon (Hinxton, 720 CE) : 6.6
    - Vandal : 7.0
    - Alemannic Bavaria (500 CE) : 8.1
    - Iron Age Belgae (Colmar, 340 BCE) : 8.7
    - Anglo-Saxon (Oakington, 470 CE) : 9.2

    Modern Irish - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - LBA Scotland (900 BCE) : 2.0
    - Bell Beaker England (2100 BCE) : 3.4
    - Unetice culture (Prague, 1813 BCE) : 4.3
    - Bronze Age France (Alsace, 1900 BCE) : 5.1
    - LBA England (1000 BCE) : 5.5
    - CWC Switzerland (2542 BCE) : 6.8
    - Bell Beaker France (Alsace, 2335 BCE) : 7.3
    - Copper Age Ireland (1880 BCE) : 8.2
    - Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BCE) : 9.3

    Modern Irish - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Iron Age Briton (York, 250 CE) : 5.0
    - Nordic Lombard (670 CE) : 5.3
    - Young Merovingian Noble (605 CE) : 6.4
    - Alemannic Bavaria (500 CE) : 6.7
    - Vandal : 6.9
    - Saxon (Hinxton (720 CE) : 7.4
    - Anglo-Saxon (Oakington, 470 CE) : 8.0


    Modern Swedes - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BCE) : 4.0
    - LBA Germany (1050 BCE) : 4.5
    - Bell Beaker England (2150 BCE, Amesbury) : 7.2
    - BA Scotland (Orkney, 1750 BCE) : 8.5
    - Bell Beaker Scotland (2450 BCE) : 8.7
    - LBA Scotland (900 BCE) : 9.4

    Modern Swedes - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Nordic Lombard : 3.6
    - Alemannic Bavaria : 5.0
    - Scythian Moldova (290 BCE) : 5.6
    - Ostrogoth (400 CE) : 7.4

    Modern Finns - Neolithic to Bronze Age cultures

    - Andronovo Culture (Western Steppes, 1300 BCE) : 7.5
    - Neolithic Axe Estonia (2460 BCE) : 7.9
    - EBA Slovakia (Blatne, 2100 BCE) : 8.2
    - EBA Poland (Silesia, 2190 BCE) : 9.9

    Modern Finns - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Scythians : 7.0


    Modern Poles & Lithuanians - Bronze Age cultures

    - LBA Estonia (660 BCE) : 8.2

    Modern Poles & Lithuanians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Early Slav-Avar Grave (590 CE) : 3.2
    - Scythian : 3.2
    - Avar (590 CE) : 7.5



    Modern East Germans - Bronze Age cultures

    - Unetice culture (Western Pomerania, 2000 BCE) : 5.8
    - Hallstatt culture (775 BCE) : 8.7

    Modern East Germans - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Frankish : 3.6
    - Scythian Ukraine (600 BCE) : 8.3
    - Ostrogoth (400 CE) : 9.0

    Modern Germans - Bronze Age cultures

    - Bell Beaker England (2150 BCE) : 5.1
    - Unetice culture (Prague, 2122 BCE) : 5.5
    - LBA Scotland (900 BCE) : 5.5
    - Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BCE) : 7.1
    - Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BCE) : 7.4
    - EBA Sicily (Buffa, 2191 BC) ..... 7.8

    Modern Germans - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Frankish : 4.3
    - Swiss Germanic (580 CE) : 5.0
    - Iron Age Briton (250 CE) : 5.2
    - Young Longobard Noble (605 CE) : 6.1
    - Alemannic Bavaria (425 CE) : 6.9
    - Saxon (Hinxton, 720 CE) : 6.9
    - Anglo-Saxon (780 CE) : 8.0
    - Scythian Ukraine (600 BCE) : 8.4
    - Visigoth Germanic (Girona, 550 CE) : 9.4
    - Ostrogoth (400 CE) : 9.8

    Modern Hungarians - Bronze Age cultures

    - Scythian Ukraine (600 BCE) : 5.4
    - Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BCE) : 9.7

    Modern Hungarians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Early Slav-Mix Avar Grave (590 CE) : 8.9


    Modern Croatians - Bronze Age cultures

    - (none at present)

    Modern Croatians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Scythian Ukraine (600 BCE) : 7.5


    Modern Slovenians - Bronze Age cultures

    - (none at present)

    Modern Slovenians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Early Slav : 6.2
    - Scythian : 6.2


    Modern Austrians - Bronze Age cultures

    - Unetice culture (1813 BCE, Prague) : 9.7

    Modern Austrians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - North-Central Lombard : 7.1
    - Alemannic Bavaria : 7.5
    - Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BCE) : 8.0
    - Thuringii : 9.4
    - Iron Age Briton (York, 250 CE) : 9.8

    Modern Swiss - Bronze Age cultures

    - Unetice culture (Bohemia 1875 BCE) : 10.0

    Modern Swiss - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Belgic tribe (Nordhouse, Alsace, 500 BCE) : 7.3


    Modern North French - Bronze Age cultures

    - Bronze Age England (1450 BCE) : 3.5
    - Unetice culture (Czechia, 2050 BCE) : 5.0
    - Bell Beaker England (2150 BCE) : 5.8
    - EBA Northern England (1750 BCE) : 7.0
    - Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BCE) : 7.4
    - Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BCE) : 8.6
    - Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BCE) : 8.0
    - Nordic Bronze Age (Jutland, 1400 BCE) : 9.4
    - North Alpine Bronze Age (1794 BCE) : 9.6

    Modern North French - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Visigoth Germanic (Girona, 550 CE) : 6.1
    - Nordic Lombard (590 CE) : 7.0
    - Saxon (Hinxton, 720 CE) : 7.2
    - Iron Age Briton (250 CE) : 7.7
    - Swiss Germanic (670 CE) : 8.1
    - Medieval Frank (670 CE) : 8.3
    - Scythian Moldova (290 BCE) : 8.5

    Modern South French - Bronze Age cultures

    - Unetice culture (Prague) : 6.8
    - EBA Gaul (Rixheim, Alsace, 1690 BCE) : 8.6

    Modern South French - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Aquitani : 5.2
    - Belgic tribe (Colmar, Alsace) : 6.8
    - North-Central Lombard : 8.1

    Modern North Italians - Bronze Age cultures

    - Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BCE) : 3.5
    - Proto-Villanovan culture (930 BCE, Martinsicuro, Abruzzo) : 5.1
    - LBA Hungary (1000 BCE) / Urnfield culture? : 9.7

    Modern North Italians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Scythian Moldova (290 BCE) : 8.1
    - Thracian Bulgaria (450 BCE) : 8.7
    - Roman from Latium (165 CE) : 8.7

    Modern Central Italians - Bronze Age cultures

    - Mycenaean Peloponnese (1350 BCE) : 9.2

    Modern Central Italians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BCE) : 8.9

    Modern South Italians - Bronze Age cultures

    - (none so far)

    Modern South Italians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Hellenic Roman : 3.9


    Modern Basques - Bronze Age cultures

    - North Alpine Bronze Age (1677 BCE) : 7.4
    - EBA France (Domen de St-Eugène, 1950 BCE) : 8.2
    - LBA Spain (Cogotas, 1290 BCE) : 9.1
    - Bell Beaker Germany (Haunstetten, 2059 BCE) : 9.1
    - Bell Beaker Italy (2000 BCE) : 9.6

    Modern Basques - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Aquitani (Pech-Maho, France, 350 BCE) : 4.6
    - Ilergetes tribe (Catalonia, 440 BCE) : 7.8
    - Vascones (280 BCE) : 8.7
    - Iron Age Catalan (620 BCE) : 9.7

    Modern Spaniards - Bronze Age cultures

    - EBA France (Rec de Ligno, 2050 BCE) : 8.7
    - Bell Beaker Germany (Haunstetten, 2385 BCE) : 9.8
    - Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BCE) : 8.9
    - Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BCE) : 10.0

    Modern Spaniards - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Illyrian : 3.6
    - Aquitani : 3.6
    - Etruscan (Civitavecchia, 650 BCE) : 4.1
    - Visigoth Frankish (Girona, Spain) : 6.3
    - Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BCE) : 9.0


    Modern Portuguese - Bronze Age cultures

    - (none so far)

    Modern Portuguese - Iron Age ethnicities

    - Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BCE) : 4.8
    - Illyrian : 8.0

    Modern Bulgarians - Bronze Age cultures

    - Bronze Age Hungary (Szolad, 1000 BCE) : 9.8

    Modern Bulgarians - Iron Age ethnicities

    - (none so far)

    2. Closest modern countries to ancient ethnicities

    Late Neolithic to Bronze Age

    Corded Ware culture (c. 3000-2350 BCE)

    - Scottish : 4.8
    - North Dutch : 5.4
    - English : 6.0
    - Danes : 6.1
    - Welsh : 6.4
    - Irish : 6.8
    - North Germans : 6.8
    - Belgians : 7.9
    - Norwegians : 8.4



    Bell Beaker network (2800-1800 BCE)

    Bell Beaker Germany

    - Swedes : 4.0
    - English : 5.4
    - Welsh : 6.0
    - Irish : 6.8
    - Germans : 7.1
    - North Dutch : 7.3
    - South Dutch : 8.5
    - Basques : 9.1
    - Scottish : 9.3
    - Belgians : 9.5
    - Danes : 9.5
    - Spanish : 9.8

    Bell Beaker France

    - Dutch : 3.9
    - English : 4.1
    - Welsh : 5.2
    - North French : 8.0
    - Scottish : 8.4
    - Irish : 8.7
    - Danes : 9.5

    Bell Beaker Britain

    - Dutch : 2.8
    - Danes : 3.5
    - Irish : 3.5
    - English : 3.7
    - Scottish : 4.5
    - Germans : 5.1
    - Welsh : 5.3
    - Belgians : 5.8
    - North French : 5.8
    - Norwegians : 6.2
    - Swedes : 7.2
    - Czechs : 9.6

    Copper Age Ireland (2600-2200 BCE)

    - English : 6.2
    - Irish : 8.2

    Unetice culture (2300-1600 BCE) Closest modern populations
    - Belgians : 4.1
    - Irish : 4.3
    - North French : 5.0
    - North Dutch : 5.0
    - Scottish : 5.2
    - West Germans : 5.5
    - East Germans : 5.8
    - English : 5.9
    - Welsh : 6.7
    - South Dutch : 6.7
    - Czechs : 6.8
    - South French : 6.8
    - Finnish : 7.0
    - Norwegians : 8.0
    - Austrians : 9.7
    - Hungarians : 9.7
    - Swiss : 10.0

    North Alpine Bronze Age (2300-1600 BCE)

    - Welsh : 6.3
    - Basques : 7.4
    - Scottish : 7.8
    - Belgians : 8.8
    - North French : 9.6

    Bronze Age Britain (1800-800 BCE)

    - Irish : 2.0
    - Scottish : 3.4
    - North French : 3.5
    - Welsh : 4.0
    - Danes : 4.1
    - North Dutch : 4.1
    - English : 4.1
    - North Germans : 5.0
    - Norwegians : 5.8
    - Swedes : 6.2
    - Belgians : 6.7


    Bronze Age France (1900-800 BCE)

    - Irish : 5.1
    - Belgians : 6.2
    - Scottish : 6.9
    - English : 7.0
    - Danes : 7.2
    - South Dutch : 7.7
    - North & West Germans : 7.8
    - Basques : 8.2
    - South French : 8.6
    - Spanish : 8.7
    - North Dutch : 8.8
    - Welsh : 9.5

    Bronze Age Germany (1800-800 BCE)

    - Swedes : 4.5
    - Welsh : 6.7

    Nordic Bronze Age (1700–500 BCE)

    - English : 8.3
    - North French : 9.4

    Andronovo culture (1800-1000 BCE)

    - Finns : 7.5

    Mycenaean Greeks (1600–1100 BCE)

    - Central Italians : 9.2

    BA Illyrians / Dalmatians (1600-1200 BCE)

    - North Italians : 3.5
    - Catalans & Aragonese : 3.6
    - Andalusians : 4.1
    - North Castilians : 4.5
    - Murcians : 4.8
    - Extremadurans : 6.7
    - South Castilians : 7.8
    - Portuguese : 8.0
    - Galicians : 9.1

    Urnfield culture (Hungary, 1300-750 BCE)

    - Kosovars : 7.7
    - Tosk Albanians : 7.9
    - Tuscans : 8.4
    - North Italians : 9.7
    - Bulgarians : 9.9

    Proto-Villanovan culture (1175- 960 BCE)

    - North Italians : 5.1
    - Tuscans : 8.8
    - Andalusians : 10.0

    Hallstatt culture (1200-800 BCE)

    - East Germans : 8.7

    Iron Age

    Etruscans

    - Andalusians : 4.0
    - Galicians : 4.6
    - Portuguese : 4.8

    Latins

    - Central Italians : 8.9

    Rhaeti

    - Cantabrians : 9.5
    - Southwest French : 9.5

    Aquitani

    - Aragonese : 3.6
    - Cantabrians : 4.5
    - Basques : 4.6
    - Southwest French : 5.2

    Iron Age Britons

    - English : 4.0
    - Irish : 4.5
    - Welsh : 5.0
    - Germans : 5.2
    - Scottish : 5.7
    - Danes : 6.3
    - North Dutch : 6.4
    - Belgians : 7.0
    - North French : 7.7
    - Austrians : 9.8

    Iron Age Belgae

    - Belgians : 5.9
    - Welsh : 6.0
    - South French : 6.8
    - Swiss : 7.3
    - North Dutch : 7.6
    - North Germans : 7.8
    - English : 8.2
    - Danes : 8.2
    - Galicians : 8.5
    - Irish : 8.6
    - Scottish : 8.7
    - South Dutch : 8.7
    - Catalans : 9.0
    - Portuguese : 9.6

    Iron Age Gaul

    - English : 8.2

    Scythians (900-200 BCE)

    - Poles : 3.2
    - Ukrainians : 3.7
    - Russians : 3.7
    - Belorussians : 3.9
    - Hungarians : 5.4
    - Swedes : 5.6
    - Czechs : 6.0
    - Romanians : 6.1
    - Slovenians : 6.2
    - English : 7.4
    - Croatians : 7.5
    - Austrians : 8.0
    - North Italians : 8.1
    - East Germans : 8.3
    - Germans : 8.4
    - Moldavians : 8.4
    - North French : 8.5
    - Spanish : 9.0

    Thracians

    - North Italians : 8.7


    Late Antiquity

    Alemanni/Swabians

    - Belgians : 4.7
    - Germans : 5.0
    - Swedes : 5.0
    - English : 5.5
    - Dutch : 5.8
    - Irish : 6.7
    - Austrians : 7.5
    - North French : 8.0
    - Scottish : 8.1
    - Welsh : 9.2

    Franks

    - Belgians : 3.6
    - West Germans : 4.3
    - South Dutch : 5.2
    - North Germans : 5.2
    - Welsh : 5.8
    - English : 6.0
    - Scottish : 6.2
    - Irish : 6.4
    - North Dutch : 6.4
    - Norwegians : 7.0
    - Danes : 7.6
    - North French : 8.3

    Saxons

    - English : 4.1
    - Welsh : 4.5
    - North Dutch : 5.6
    - Irish : 6.0
    - Belgians : 6.1
    - Scottish : 6.3
    - Danes : 6.4
    - Germans : 6.9
    - North French : 8.2

    Anglo-Saxons

    - Danes : 5.7
    - Dutch : 5.7
    - Scottish : 6.2
    - Irish : 7.2
    - English : 7.3
    - Norwegians : 7.8
    - Welsh : 7.9
    - Germans : 8.0

    Lombards

    - North Dutch : 2.2
    - Belgians : 3.1
    - English : 3.2
    - Swedes : 3.6
    - Danes : 3.7
    - Irish : 4.1
    - Scottish : 4.1
    - North Germans : 5.2
    - Norwegians : 5.9
    - West Germans : 6.2
    - Welsh : 6.4
    - North French : 7.0
    - South Dutch : 7.8
    - South French : 8.1
    - English : 8.2

    Rugians

    - Belgians : 8.6

    Ostrogoths

    - Swedes : 7.4
    - English : 7.4
    - East Germans: 9.0
    - Germans : 9.8

    Visigoths

    - West Germans : 5.7
    - Belgians : 5.8
    - Welsh : 6.6
    - South Dutch : 6.7
    - English : 7.2
    - French : 8.8
    - North Dutch : 9.7

    Vandals

    - Irish : 6.9
    - Scottish : 7.0
    - English : 7.6
    - Welsh : 7.9

    Early Slavs

    - Poles : 3.2
    - Ukrainians : 5.0
    - Belorussians : 6.0
    - Slovenians : 6.2
    - Lithuanians : 7.2
    - Russians : 7.8
    - Estonians : 8.0
    - Hungarians : 8.9
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    If I understand the instructions ...

    Bronze age cultures

    Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) : 5.999 - R1


    Bronze Age Szolad Hungary (1000 BC) : 9.721 - SZ1


    Iron age ethnicities (it's late Antiquity: my actual Iron Age samples have a proximity greater than 10)

    Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) : 9.626 - R107

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    Stricto sensu, I am not an European. I make Stuvannè's words mine, and post my ancient samples them next.

    Iron Age:
    3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474

    Late Antiquity (Late Roman Age):
    4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 9.859 - I12034-

    5. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 9.945 - R33 -





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    I did it in 10 with something because I have not had a moment of rest.

    1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034
    7. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499
    8. Dolmen de Saint-Eugene Bronze Age France (1950 BC) ..... 10.28
    - EUG11
    9. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -
    10. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 10.35 - UNTA58_68Sk1
    11. Late Copper Age Italy (2600 BC) ..... 10.49 - 9314_Oss
    13. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313
    14. Aquitani Pech-Maho France (350 BC) ..... 10.9 - PECH8

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    2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2
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    3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2
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    4. Gallo-Roman Lombard Grave (580 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 -
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    5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) ..... 9.193 - I10895 -
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    6. Roman-Era Empuries (47 BC) ..... 9.529 - I10866 -
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    7. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 -
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    8. Dolmen de Saint-Eugene Bronze Age France (1950 BC) ..... 10.28 - EUG11 -
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    9. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -
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    10. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 10.35 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
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    11. Late Copper Age Italy (2600 BC) ..... 10.49 - 9314_Oss
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    12. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 10.71 - I10852 -
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    13. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 -
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    14. Aquitani Pech-Maho France (350 BC) ..... 10.9 - PECH8 -
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    Who said Gallo Roman is doubtful?Gallo Roman understood that they were Gauls from Roman times not Gauls mixed with Romans

    2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2
    Gallo-Roman (Genetic match)

    3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2
    Gallo-Roman (Genetic match)

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    Not sure if i got it right, but my results are only this.

    1. Belgic Tribe Nordhouse France (500 BC) ..... 7.327

    The number 2 is Hidden.

    And number 3 is.

    3. Unetice Bohemia (1875 BC) ..... 10.09

    A slight over 10.

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    Here are my results, I am British:

    Neolithic


    Bell Beaker Amesbury - (2250 BC) 4.669
    Ollsjo Battleaxe Sweden - (2860 BC) 5.427
    Bell Beaker Augsberg - (2215 BC) 5.492
    Bell Beaker Germany - (2250 BC) 6.035
    Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany - (2273 BC) 6.256
    Bronze Age Anselfingen Germany - (2325 BC) 6.415
    Bell Beaker Amesbury- (2250 BC) 7.936
    Proto-Celtic Bronze Age Wehringen (2240 BC) - 8.55
    Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland - (2660 BC) 8.976
    Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland - (2600 BC) 9.532

    Early Bronze Age:

    Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobilisy - (1813 BC) 6.119
    Bell Beaker Amesbury - (2150 BC) 6.502
    Bell Beaker England - (2150 BC) 6.736
    Ireland Copper Age - (1950 BC) 7.536
    Zerniki Wielkie Bronze Age Poland - (2175 BC) 7.935
    Czech Velke Prilepy - (2050 BC) 8.09
    Bronze Age Jutland Denmark - (1400 BC) 8.371
    Bronze Age Orkney Islands - (1750 BC) 8.637
    Unitece Bohemia - (1875 BC) 8.656

    Late Bronze Age:


    Scotland Late Bronze Age - (900 BC) 6.158
    Bronze Age Hebrides Islands - (1350 BC) 6.299
    Scotland Late Bronze Age - (900BC) 8.328

    Iron Age


    Iron Age La Monderiere Bessan - (125BC) 8.265
    Scythian Ukraine - (600BC) 8.54
    Western Scythian Ukraine - (580 BC) 9.611
    Belgic Tribe Nordhouse France - (500 BC) 9.759

    Roman Age

    Celtic Briton Gladiator York - (250 AD) 4.007
    Celtic Briton Gladiator York - (250 AD) 5.725
    Alemannic Bavaria - (495 AD) 6.006
    Celtic Hinxton Iron Age - (45 BC) 7.007
    Celtic Briton - (1AD) 8.36
    Celtic Gladiator York - (250 AD) 8.819

    Dark Ages

    Germanic Lombard - (590 AD) 8.259

    Frankish Hungary - (590 AD) 8.93

    Medieval Age

    Viking Denmark Revshale - (1080 AD) 4.578
    Post Viking Denmark Tirup - (1200 AD) 6.547
    Medieval Denmark - (1270 AD) 7.261
    Viking Denmark Odense - (1058 AD) 7.294
    Post Viking Denmark Odense - (1250 AD) 7.665
    Medieval Plague Netherlands - (1359 AD) 7.844

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    I have simplified the 'rules'. I will just sort the relevant data myself.

    Feel free to share your top matches by PM if you do not wish to post them publicly. I will only use your GD score (if lower than anyone else from the same country) anonymously.

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    Here is what we have learned from the project so far. Let's start with the surprises.

    - The closest modern populations to the EBA Unetice culture are Belgian, Dutch and North French people.
    - Dutch and British people are the closest populations to the Corded Ware culture as well as Bell Beaker France and Britain. Modern Danes and Swedes are also close to the German and British Bell Beaker folks.
    - The Etruscans are considerably closer to modern Andalusians, Galicians and Portuguese than to modern Italians. I wonder whether this is because of the numerous Roman settlements in southern and western Iberia.
    - The ancient Illyrians/Dalmatians prior to the Slavic migrations were essentially like modern North Italians and East Spaniards.
    - The only modern population matching ancient Mycenaeans with a GD under 10 are Central Italians (not Greeks).
    - The Basques are the 2nd closest modern population to the North Alpine Bronze Age after the Welsh. That may indicate that the Bronze Age population that brought R1b and Steppe admixture to the Basque country came from the North of the Alps in the Early Bronze Age.
    - The Lombards are very close to modern Dutch and Belgians, but other close matches are split between Celtic (Irish, Scottish) and Germanic (Swedish, Danish) people. Does that mean that they were a Celto-Germanic mix, rather than a Germanic tribe? It's known that there were substantial Celtic settlements in Jutland (the Cimbri) in Roman times. The Netherlands and NW Germany were a region of high R1b, intermediary between Celtic and Germanic populations. The Lombards probably inherited that Proto-Celto-Germanic admixture, like modern Dutch and Belgian people.
    - The biggest surprise of all is that the Vandals only cluster around modern British and Irish people and not with any modern Germanic country. Their closest match are the Irish, which suggests a predominantly Celtic ancestry. Yet the Vandals are usually considered to be an East Germanic tribe. Could it be that they were actually Germanised Celt? They originated in southern Poland and it has been hypothesised that they were part of the Lugii tribe, whose DNA also turns out closest to Welsh and Irish people.

    The project also confirmed more obvious relationships.

    - The Aquitani were very much like modern Basques, Cantabrians and Aragonese.
    - Ancient Latins were closest to modern Central Italians.
    - Bell Beaker & Bronze Age Britons were like modern Britons and Irish.
    - The Iron Age Britons were very much the the present-day English (in some regions at least), Welsh and Irish.
    - The Iron Age Belgae and Franks are closest to modern Belgians.
    - The Saxons resembled more modern English and Welsh people.
    - The Anglo-Saxons ressemble most modern Dutch and Danish people.
    - The Ostrogoths are closest to the Swedes, while the Visigothic samples are more like the Belgians and West Germans.
    - The Scythians were very similar to modern Poles, Ukrainians, West Russians and Belorussians. Despite being an Iranian tribe, they were ethnically close so East Slavic people - as expected for two predominantly R1a ethnic groups.
    Last edited by Maciamo; 08-06-20 at 10:29.

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    I am French, all known ancestry from French and Belgian Flanders

    Neolithic Age



    21. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2447 BC) ..... 9.11 - MX188 -
    31. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) ..... 9.788 - Rise61 -

    43. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 10.75 - I0112 -
    50. Kornice Bronze Age Poland (2200 BC) ..... 11.2 - I6582 -

    Early Bronze Age

    2. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (2122 BC) ..... 5.476 - I4886 -

    6. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 6.814 - I5471 -
    8. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 7.616 - I4889 -
    9. Bischwihr Bronze Age Alsace France (1900 BC) ..... 7.787 - BIS385 -
    17. Sicily Buffa Early Bronze Age (2191 BC) ..... 8.463 - I11443
    19. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (1813 BC) ..... 8.831 - I4896 -
    23. Bronze Age Covesea Cave Scotland (2000 BC) ..... 9.302 - I3132 -
    24. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 9.369 - I2568 -
    26. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 9.468 - I4885 -
    34. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 9.92 - I3875 -

    Late Bronze Age

    all Hidden

    Iron Age

    12. Iron Age Colmar France (340 BC) ..... 8.102 - COL11 -
    29. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 9.738 - Linton -

    30. Western Scythian Mix Hungary (550 BC) ..... 9.744 - DA197 -
    32. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 9.793 - HI1 -
    39. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 10.54 - 15594A -
    44. Hals45. Iron Age Colmar France (340 BC) ..... 11.04 - COL153A -
    45. Iron Age Colmar France (340 BC) ..... 11.04 - COL153A -

    Roman Age

    15. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 8.391 - BIM_33 -
    22. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 9.126 - ALH_1 -
    54. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 11.33 - MJ37 -

    Dark Ages

    Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 4.458 - SZ23 -
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    3. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 5.708 - I12032 -
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    4. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 6.41 - I12162 -
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    5. Germanic Lombard Szolad (590 AD) ..... 6.643 - SZ3 -
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    7. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 7.377 - CL102 - ?
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    10. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 7.841 - SZ5 -
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    13. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 8.174 - HinxtonO1 -
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    18. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.751 - I12163 -
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    25. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 9.437 - SZ18 -
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    33. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.879 - SZ38 - ?
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    Medieval Age

    11. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.087 - G24 -
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    16. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 8.455 - R62 -
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    20. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 8.962 - TSK-A26 -
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    27. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 9.581 - Ber45 - ?
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    28. Germanic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.723 - G1065 -
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    38. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 10.42 - G48 -
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    40. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1448 AD) ..... 10.7 - OSL9B -
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    41. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 10.72 - DA199 -
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    49. Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 11.16 - G119 -
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    52. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 11.24 - G208 -
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    Early Modern Period




    14. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.371 - Shohola -
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    37. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 10.4 - KOV-A2 -
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    60. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 11.44 - Unknown
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    Quote Originally Posted by flupke View Post
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    Thanks. Since your ancestry is from French/Belgian Flanders I am going to list you among Belgians. In fact your data fits completely within the Belgian range.

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    My list:
    Neolithic Age
    4. Celto-Germanic Lingolsheim Alsace (2335 BC) ..... 3.936 - SX32 -
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    8. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 4.691 - I5367 -
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    14. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2542 BC) ..... 5.405 - MX192 -
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    25. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2260 BC) ..... 6.109 - MX195 -
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    45. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2200 BC) ..... 6.953 - MX189
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    59. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) ..... 7.326 - I0112 -
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    1. Bell Beaker Willington England (2100 BC) ..... 2.862 - I2452 -
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    3. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 3.69 - I5377 -
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    6. Bronze Age Oxfordshire England (2030 BC) ..... 4.324 - I2445 -
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    9. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 4.805 - I2981 -
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    15. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 5.45 - I7573 -
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    17. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (1813 BC) ..... 5.507 - I4895 -
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    18. High Status Male Haunstetten (1946 BC) ..... 5.567 - POST_6 -
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    28. Zerniki Wielkie Bronze Age Poland (2175 BC) ..... 6.317 - I6583 -
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    36. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 6.679 - I2447 -
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    39. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 6.72 - I3255 -
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    11. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.071 - I2861 -
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    23. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.945 - I2859 -
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    35. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 6.67 - I5383 -
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    74. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 7.832 - I0099 -
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    Iron Age
    30. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 6.448 - Linton -
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    37. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 6.681 - 15594A -
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    38. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 6.716 - HI1 -
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    48. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 7.06 - Hinxton 1
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    Roman Age
    21. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 5.732 - OakO4 -
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    22. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (485 AD) ..... 5.816 - AED_249 -
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    24. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 6.107 - ALH_1 -
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    53. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 7.186 - 6DRIF-18 -
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    Dark Ages
    5. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 4.164 - SZ15 -
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    13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.359 - SZ4 -
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    20. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.639 - SZ42 -
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    31. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 6.451 - NS6 -
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    32. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 6.472 - CL146 -
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    40. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 6.77 - NS1 -
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    47. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 7.037 - HinxtonO1 -
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    50. Anglo Saxon (720 AD) ..... 7.072 - Hinxton HS1 -
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    52. Celtic Mix Lombard (580 AD) ..... 7.105 - CL83 - ?
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    54. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.241 - SZ9 -
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    7. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 4.632 - stg021 - ?
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    10. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 4.855 - Sigtuna stg021 -
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    12. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1448 AD) ..... 5.201 - OSL9B -
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    16. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 5.462 - KNS-A1 -
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    19. Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany (1068 AD) ..... 5.594 - Petersberg -
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    26. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 6.137 - G48 -
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    27. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland (925 AD) ..... 6.157 - VDP-A6 -
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    29. Norwegian Viking Iceland (950 AD) ..... 6.372 - HSJ-A1B -
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    33. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 6.615 - 97029 -
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    43. Norwegian Viking Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 6.905 - STT-A2 -
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    Early Modern Period
    2. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 3.575 - Unknown
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    34. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 6.636 - Shohola -
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    55. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.268 - I2097 -
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    Country: Belgium - Brussels



    3 members found this post helpful.
    It seems reasonable to consider that a genetic distance up to 5 means that the two populations are the same ethnic group. Here are the modern populations that possess such ancient matches.

    - Irish = Bronze Age Britain (2.0), Bell Beaker England (4.5), Iron Age Briton (5.0)
    - Scots = Bronze Age Britain (4.1), Bell Beaker England (4.5)
    - Welsh = Bronze Age Briton (4.0), Iron Age Briton (5.0)
    - English= Iron Age Britons (4.0), Bell Beaker Gaul (4.1) and Britain (4.6), Lombards (4.5)
    - Dutch = Bell Beaker Britain (2.8) and Gaul (3.9), EBA England (3.7), Lombards (4.1)
    - Belgians = Lombards (3.1), Franks (3.6), Unetice (4.1)
    - North French = Bronze Age Britain (3.5) Unetice culture (5.0)
    - Swedes = Bell Beaker Germany (4.0), Bronze Age Germany (4.5)
    - Poles = Early Slav (3.4)
    - North Italians = Illyrians/Dalmatians (3.5)
    - Basques = Aquitani (4.6)

    So far no other modern European population has close ancient matches. Note that I don't have any sample from Norway, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Romania yet.

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    My results from 1 year ago. I suppose Maciamo already used them. Apparently I am so far the only Italian in ancestry with distance below 5 to a single pop. Even my parents get distances above 5.

    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Mine hasn't changed that much.

    I'm too lazy to upload all the images again, so here is just a "copy and paste".

    (Another time I try FTDNA data. Anyway, according to those first runs, results with FTDNA data and 23andMe data are very similar.)

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    Mine - 23andMe v4

    Closest Ancient Population: Illyrian

    Illyrians - Gallo-Romans - Gauls

    Illyrian (3.516)
    Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (4.535)
    Gaul + Illyrian (4.682)
    Gallo-Roman (7.505)
    Gaul (9.844)

    Ancient Samples

    1. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (3.516) - [Upgrade for more details]
    2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (5.833) - [Upgrade for more details]
    3. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (6.048) - [Upgrade for more details]
    4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.505) - [Upgrade for more details]
    5. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (8.346) - [Upgrade for more details]
    6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.844) - [Upgrade for more details]
    7. Central Roman (670 AD) (9.868) - [Upgrade for more details]
    8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.12) - [Upgrade for more details]
    9. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (11.39) - [Upgrade for more details]
    10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.49) - [Upgrade for more details]
    11. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (11.49) - [Upgrade for more details]
    12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.74) - [Upgrade for more details]
    13. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.02) - [Upgrade for more details]
    14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.57) - [Upgrade for more details]
    15. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (12.86) - [Upgrade for more details]
    16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.48) - [Upgrade for more details]
    17. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.6) - [Upgrade for more details]
    18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.64) - [Upgrade for more details]
    19. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (13.73) - [Upgrade for more details]
    20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.07) - [Upgrade for more details]

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    Father's - 23andMe v4

    Closest Ancient Population: Thracian

    Thracians - Illyrians - Romans

    Roman + Thracian (5.934)
    Roman + Illyrian (5.934)
    Thracian (7.724)
    Illyrian (7.724)
    Roman (8.274)

    Ancient Samples

    1. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (7.724) - [Upgrade for more details]
    2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.724) - [Upgrade for more details]
    3. Central Roman (670 AD) (8.274) - [Upgrade for more details]
    4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.403) - [Upgrade for more details]
    5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (8.418) - [Upgrade for more details]
    6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.483) - [Upgrade for more details]
    7. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (9.786) - [Upgrade for more details]
    8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.18) - [Upgrade for more details]
    9. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (10.32) - [Upgrade for more details]
    10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.32) - [Upgrade for more details]
    11. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (10.84) - [Upgrade for more details]
    12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.94) - [Upgrade for more details]
    13. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.1) - [Upgrade for more details]
    14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.83) - [Upgrade for more details]
    15. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (11.89) - [Upgrade for more details]
    16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.9) - [Upgrade for more details]
    17. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (12.27) - [Upgrade for more details]
    18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.47) - [Upgrade for more details]
    19. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (12.86) - [Upgrade for more details]
    20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.94) - [Upgrade for more details]

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    Mother's - 23andMe v4

    Closest Ancient Population: Gaul and Thracian

    Gauls - Thracians - Illyrians

    Gaul + Thracian (2.773)
    Gaul + Illyrian (2.773)
    Gaul (6.212)
    Illyrian (7.432)
    Thracian (7.715)

    Ancient Samples

    1. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (5.775) - [Upgrade for more details]
    2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (6.212) - [Upgrade for more details]
    3. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (7.432) - [Upgrade for more details]
    4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (7.715) - [Upgrade for more details]
    5. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (7.715) - [Upgrade for more details]
    6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.45) - [Upgrade for more details]
    7. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (8.606) - [Upgrade for more details]
    8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.01) - [Upgrade for more details]
    9. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (10.02) - [Upgrade for more details]
    10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.31) - [Upgrade for more details]
    11. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (10.43) - [Upgrade for more details]
    12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.71) - [Upgrade for more details]
    13. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (11.01) - [Upgrade for more details]
    14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.07) - [Upgrade for more details]
    15. Central Roman (670 AD) (11.22) - [Upgrade for more details]
    16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.29) - [Upgrade for more details]
    17. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (11.4) - [Upgrade for more details]
    18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.52) - [Upgrade for more details]
    19. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (12.43) - [Upgrade for more details]
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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Hi I am from Bulgaria and I have just one sample under 10 GD. Good luck! Here are my results:
    Neolithic Age


    132. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 26.15 - I3499 -
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    72 %
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    151. Proto-Slavic Late Neolithic Wartau Switzerland (2510 BC) ..... 26.89 - MX298
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    80 %
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    162. Trypillian Moldova (3300 BC) ..... 27.37 - Gordinesti -
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    90 %
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    170. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 27.62 - I4930 -
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    91 %
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    178. Trypillian Moldova (3300 BC) ..... 28.2 - Pocrovca1 -
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    94 %
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    202. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) ..... 28.93 - I1631 -
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    93 %
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    215. Bronze Age Russia (2750 BC) ..... 29.35 - Rise509 -
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    88 %
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    226. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 29.69 - UNTA85_1343 -
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    21 %
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    230. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 29.84 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
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    27 %
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    232. Trypillian Verteba Cave Ukraine (3500 BC) ..... 29.88 - I1926 -
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    91 %
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    Early Bronze Age

    62. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 22.21 - I4885 -
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    27 %
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    66. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 22.36 - I4332 -
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    77 %
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    104. Bronze Age Wehringen (1972 BC) ..... 24.31 - WEHR_1474 -
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    82 %
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    105. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 24.32 - I4331 -
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    60 %
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    146. Sicily Buffa Early Bronze Age (2191 BC) ..... 26.69 - I11443
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    24 %
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    150. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (1813 BC) ..... 26.89 - I4896 -
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    22 %
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    167. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (2122 BC) ..... 27.47 - I4886 -
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    22 %
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    172. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 27.71 - Rise139 -
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    26 %
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    187. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 28.5 - I4888 -
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    21 %
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    192. Bronze Age Vatya Pannonia (1600 BC) ..... 28.59 - Rise480 -
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    27 %
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    Late Bronze Age

    1. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary (1000 BC) ..... 9.838 - SZ1 -
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    98 %
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    6. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.55 - R1 -
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    91 %
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    43. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 21.36 - I3313 -
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    70 %
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    70. Mycenaean Peristeria Citadel (1350 BC) ..... 22.51 - I9033 -
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    93 %
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    93. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 23.63 - MJ12 -
    Top
    83 %
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    122. Crete Armenoi (1355 BC) ..... 25.38 - I9123 -
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    98 %
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    147. Quinquiris Bronze Age Aude France (1200 BC) ..... 26.71 - QUIN58 -
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    66 %
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    156. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) ..... 27.18 - IR1 -
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    27 %
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    157. Mycenaean Peloponnese (1350 BC) ..... 27.19 - I9041 -
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    92 %
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    214. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) ..... 29.31 - cim358 -
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    94 %
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    Iron Age

    18. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 19.17 - MA2198 - ?
    Top
    95 %
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    29. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 19.83 - scy197b -
    Top
    86 %
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    36. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) ..... 20.88 - scy301 -
    Top
    39 %
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    41. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 21.28 - scy010 -
    Top
    65 %
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    48. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 21.48 - scy192 -
    Top
    85 %
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    55. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 21.86 - DA195 -
    Top
    60 %
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    58. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 22.14 - scy311 -
    Top
    26 %
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    78. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 22.8 - MJ34 -
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    33 %
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    84. Iron Age Erstein France (250 BC) ..... 23.21 - ERS86 -
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    28 %
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    85. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 23.23 - R437 -
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    93 %
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    Roman Age

    11. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 17.21 - I6491 -
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    93 %
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    12. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 17.64 - R107 -
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    94 %
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    30. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 19.91 - R136 -
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    92 %
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    31. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 20.05 - AED_1108 -
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    32 %
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    33. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 20.47 - R114 -
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    93 %
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    34. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 20.72 - R835 -
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    91 %
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    35. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 20.84 - I3576 -
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    91 %
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    37. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 20.9 - R36 -
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    85 %
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    40. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.22 - I3575 -
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    88 %
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    45. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.41 - I3582 -
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    89 %
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    Dark Ages

    2. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.91 - I12031 -
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    94 %
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    3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.21 - SZ36 -
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    95 %
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    4. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.52 - NS3b - ?
    Top
    97 %
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    5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.4 - SZ43 -
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    94 %
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    8. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 16.76 - SZ45 -
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    64 %
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    10. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 16.98 - CL36 - ?
    Top
    90 %
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    13. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave (590 AD) ..... 17.69 - SZ37 -
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    92 %
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    14. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.83 - SZ32 - ?
    Top
    92 %
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    16. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 18.71 - SZ28 - ?
    Top
    88 %
    match vs all users


    22. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 19.54 - SZ40 - ?
    Top
    93 %
    match vs all users


    Medieval Age

    9. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 16.85 - R60 -
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    93 %
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    15. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 18.2 - BSS31
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    92 %
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    17. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.06 - I12649 -
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    87 %
    match vs all users


    19. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 19.17 - R1290 -
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    92 %
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    23. Byzantine Empire Troy (1200 AD) ..... 19.64 - ByzantineNod1 -
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    95 %
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    24. Hungarian Late Conqueror Sarretudvari-Hizofold (950 AD) ..... 19.68 - SHper81_GE -
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    99 %
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    25. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.73 - DA199 -
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    38 %
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    38. Medieval La Palma Sardinia (941 AD) ..... 20.98 - I12221
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    88 %
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    42. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 21.31 - R57 -
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    91 %
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    49. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 21.51 - R54 -
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    91 %
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    Early Modern Period

    7. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.67 - OBS137 - ?
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    87 %
    match vs all users


    20. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 19.23 - R970 -
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    90 %
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    21. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 19.46 - R969 -
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    93 %
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    26. Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada (1550 AD) ..... 19.75 - I7424 -
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    91 %
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    57. Relic French King Louis XVI (1793 AD) ..... 21.92 - LXVI -
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    80 %
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    73. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 22.62 - R973 -
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    90 %
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    75. Post-Reconquista Granada (1550 AD) ..... 22.71 - I7425 -
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    83 %
    match vs all users


    91. Torna Alta Post-Reconquista Granada (1550 AD) ..... 23.61 - I3808 -
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    93 %
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    102. Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 24.14 - Marat -
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    28 %
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    124. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 25.4 - OBS116 - ?
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    24 %
    match vs all users

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Hi, this is avery interestig thread, Maciamo

    I am ethnically Finnish-Swedish 50% and Finnish 50%

    My Y-DNA is I-M253 and it "makes" me even more Scandinavian than Fenno-Scandian. My mt-DNA is U5b2a6, my test results are from FTDNA. I´ve seen that all matches follow those paths, as they also should...

    Your closest Ancient populations...

    Viking + Longobard (8.042)
    Oeselian + Scythian (8.696)
    Viking Icelandic + Oeselian (8.948)
    Viking + Oeselian (9.317)
    Oeselian + Longobard (10.09)
    Viking (11.32)
    Oeselian (13.98)
    Longobard (16.57)
    Viking Icelandic (17.22)
    Scythian (18.11)

    Your closest genetic modern populations...

    1. Finnish (8.312)
    2. Southwest_Finnish (10.76)
    3. North_Swedish (10.88)
    4. German_Central (12.67)
    5. East_Finnish (13.73)
    6. Estonian (13.74)
    7. Swedish (14.19)
    8. Norwegian (16.22)


    Neolithic Age





    2. Neolithic Axe Estonia (2460 BC) ..... 7.939 - Kunila2 -
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    99 %
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    5. Ancient Gotlander Battleaxe (2750 BC) ..... 10.05 - Ajvide70 -
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    99 %
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    22. Czech Radovesice X Club CWC (2350 BC) ..... 12.86 - I7209 - ?
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    99 %
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    23. Czech Bilina CWC (2625 BC) ..... 12.98 - I6695 - ?
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    96 %
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    24. Ancient Gotlander Battleaxe (2750 BC) ..... 13.04 - Ajvide58 -
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    96 %
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    32. Neolithic Gotlander (5000 BC) ..... 13.8 - FT11 Stora -
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    99 %
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    33. Late Neolithic Aesch Switzerland (2500 BC) ..... 13.9 - Aesch25 -
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    97 %
    match vs all users


    35. Bergsgraven Oestergotland Sweden (2570 BC) ..... 14.0 - ber1 -
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    87 %
    match vs all users


    36. Bronze Age Szigetszentmiklos-Felso-Urge Hungary (2350 BC) ..... 14.01 - I2787 -
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    99 %
    match vs all users


    37. Syltholm Neolithic Denmark (3750 BC) ..... 14.18 - Syltholm_1 -
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    99 %
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    Early Bronze Age




    3. Early Bronze Age Blatne Slovakia (2100 BC) ..... 8.287 - BLAT_33_Co
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    99 %
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    4. Silesia Bronze Age Poland (2190 BC) ..... 9.984 - I6579 -
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    99 %
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    6. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 10.33 - I4892 -
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    96 %
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    7. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 10.41 - kzb006
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    99 %
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    12. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes Muradym (1820 BC) ..... 11.68 - mur004 -
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    99 %
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    14. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 11.81 - kzb002 -
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    99 %
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    16. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 12.02 - kzb007 -
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    99 %
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    18. Dzielnica Bronze Age Poland (2160 BC) ..... 12.45 - I6531 -
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    98 %
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    19. Andronovo Bayan-Zherek Mountains (1400 BC) ..... 12.45 - I1931
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    99 %
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    26. Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (1860 BC) ..... 13.17 - Rise395 -
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    96 %
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    Late Bronze Age




    1. Andronovo Culture Western Steppes (1300 BC) ..... 7.533 - I11538
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    99 %
    match vs all users


    20. Andronovo Culture Pavlodar (1150 BC) ..... 12.55 - I10110
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    99 %
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    60. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) ..... 16.1 - I0099 -
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    54 %
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    85. Andronovo Culture Metal Road Russia (1300 BC) ..... 16.95 - I6047
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    99 %
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    116. [Hidden] - upgrade to Olympus or Lightning ..... 18.22 - I11541
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    98 %
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    143. [Hidden] - upgrade to Olympus or Lightning ..... 19.12 - DA2 -
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    98 %
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    Iron Age




    8. Late Bronze Age Estonia (610 BC) ..... 11.11 - V10 -
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    99 %
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    15. Iron Age Oeselian Saaremaa (420 BC) ..... 11.84 - X04 -
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    99 %
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    17. Late Bronze Age Estonia (580 BC) ..... 12.29 - VII4 -
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    98 %
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    51. Eurasian Steppes Saka Scythian (775 BC) ..... 15.34 - DA130
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    99 %
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    78. Iron Age Oeselian Saaremaa (215 BC) ..... 16.77 - V11 -
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    99 %
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    80. Iron Age Saaremaa Oesel (215 BC) ..... 16.83 - V12 -
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    96 %
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    84. Sarmatian Caspian Steppes (712 BC) ..... 16.92 - DA202 -
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    25. Nordic Alemannic Merovingian Burial (605 AD) ..... 13.06 - NS12c - ?
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    113. [Hidden] - upgrade to Olympus or Lightning ..... 18.18 - SZ41
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    128. [Hidden] - upgrade to Olympus or Lightning ..... 18.57 - NS6 -
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    9. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 11.13 - G942
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    34. Medieval Oeselian Saaremaa (1270 AD) ..... 13.98 - IIa -
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    40. Medieval Oeselian Livonia (1375 AD) ..... 14.48 - IIf -
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    53. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1305 AD) ..... 15.44 - G34 -
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    54. Medieval Denmark Odense (1315 AD) ..... 15.48 - G102 -
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    56. Baltic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 15.65 - G1137 -
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    58. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 15.85 - Sigtuna grt036 -
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    38. Late Medieval Livonia (1585 AD) ..... 14.36 - IVLS09KT -
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    44. Sala Silver Mine Sweden (1610 AD) ..... 14.71 - Sk6866 -
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    65. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 16.28 - Shohola -
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    107. [Hidden] - upgrade to Olympus or Lightning ..... 18.05 - Unknown
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    112. [Hidden] - upgrade to Olympus or Lightning ..... 18.13 - LUND1n -
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    Last edited by Ivar of Rasa Bol; 04-06-20 at 23:54.

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    I am fully German, half from Upper Bavaria, half from the Eifel Region in Rhineland-Palatinate.
    For perspective my Top 5 Ethnicity estimates:
    1. West_German (6.816)
    2. Flemish (7.076)
    3. French (7.525)
    4. South_Dutch (8.108)
    5. Welsh (9.735)

    Early Bronze Age:
    3. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (2122 BC) ..... 5.536 -
    7. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 7.031 -
    8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 7.626 -
    9. Sicily Buffa Early Bronze Age (2191 BC) ..... 7.806
    10. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 8.157 -
    14. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 9.013 -

    Iron Age:
    12. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 8.609 -

    Roman Age:

    15. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 9.164 -

    Dark Ages:
    1. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 4.98 -
    2. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 5.191 -
    4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 6.049 -
    5. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 6.18 -
    6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 6.743 -
    11. Medieval Tyrolian (580 AD) ..... 8.181 -
    13. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 8.73
    16. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 9.37 -
    17. Germanic Lombard Szolad (590 AD) ..... 9.552 -
    18. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 9.599 -

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    My daughter's results, (she is British):

    Neolithic


    15. Ollsjo Battleaxe Sweden (2860 BC) ..... 6.584 - oll007 -
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    17. Bronze Age Anselfingen Germany (2325 BC) ..... 6.795 - MX259 -
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    32. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 7.621 - I2566 -
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    39. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 7.911 - UNTA85_1343 -
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    42. Samborzec Bronze Age Poland (2290 BC) ..... 8.044 - I4253 -
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    53. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2542 BC) ..... 8.54 - MX192 -
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    59. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 8.766 - I2418 -
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    Early Bronze Age

    5. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 5.289 - I1767 -
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    8. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 6.112 - I2981 -
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    10. High Status Male Haunstetten (1946 BC) ..... 6.207 - POST_6 -
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    11. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 6.315 - I6680 -
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    12. Zerniki Wielkie Bronze Age Poland (2175 BC) ..... 6.402 - I6583 -
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    13. Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) ..... 6.405 - OBKR_80 -
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    18. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 6.826 - I2458 -
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    19. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 6.913 - Rise577 -
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    22. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 7.06 - I4888 -
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    30. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 7.487 - I5377 -
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    Late Bronze Age

    9. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 6.198 - I2860 -
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    20. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) ..... 6.934 - I2655 -
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    24. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 7.189 - I2861 -
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    40. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 7.933 - I2859 -
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    29. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 7.481 - 15594A -
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    45. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 8.089 - Linton -
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    Roman Age

    2. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 4.127 - 3DRIF-16 -
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    6. Alemannic Bavaria (495 AD) ..... 5.506 - STR_316 -
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    16. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.762 - 6DRIF-22 -
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    26. Celt Hinxton Iron Age (45 BC) ..... 7.411 - HI2 -
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    28. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 7.479 - 6DRIF-21 -
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    44. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.075 - 6DRIF-3 -
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    51. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.426 - OakO4 -
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    Dark Ages

    3. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 4.652 - SZ42 -
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    31. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 7.53 - HinxtonO1 -
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    48. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 8.283
    - SZ38 - ?

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    55. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 8.595 - NS6 -
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    Medieval Age

    7. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 5.675 - G48 -
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    14. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 6.565 - G300 -
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    23. Viking Denmark Revshale (1080 AD) ..... 7.139 - Revshale16 -
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    4. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 7.792 - Ber37 - ?
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    37. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 7.892 - Ber45 - ?
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    25. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 7.35 - KOV-A2 -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    - The ancient Illyrians/Dalmatians prior to the Slavic migrations were essentially like modern North Italians.
    - The only modern population matching ancient Mycenaeans with a GD under 10 are Central Italians (not Greeks).
    Your assumptions based on your calculations seem self explanatory. If Ancient Illyrians/Dalmatians are like modern North Italians, then we have an image of what was inhabiting the Northern/Central part of the Balkans during Ancient times. It seems to me quite understanding that the Bronze Age South Greeks (Mycenaeans) could have undergone influences from Northern migrations (North Italian like people), be it from other parts of Greece or elsewhere, already during the Iron Age/classical era. Aside from medieval influences ofcourse. The historian Thucydides mentions that there have been population shifts during the Iron Age.

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    south italians (cluster with the R114 dude who was probably hellenic roman)
    i think they also cluster or very close in distance to the IA ardea R850 outlier
    from 650 bc ( who most likely was greek )

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    south italians (cluster with the R114 dude who was probably hellenic roman)
    i think they also cluster or very close in distance to the IA ardea R850 outlier
    from 650 bc ( who most likely was greek )
    Are you sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Are you sure?


    and in eurogenes k15 ancient ?
    you know that my true ancestery use the eurogenes k15 tool
    anyway could be differences between apulian and calabrian and Sicilian groups ( from historical reason MESSAPIANS and others etc....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    and in eurogenes k15 ancient ?
    you know that my true ancestery use the eurogenes k15 tool
    anyway could be differences between apulian and calabrian and Sicilian groups ( from historical reason MESSAPIANS and others etc....)
    ... Apologies for going off topic


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    thanks salento
    so i guess greek islanders are the one that cluster with the IA ARDEA outlier R850


    this is mine with k15 ancient ( which is my true ancestery tool )
    Distance to: adam
    6.51698550 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    6.87621989 R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.11559555 R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    7.47608186 R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
    7.49120818 R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
    7.62566063 R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    7.80150626 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
    8.09692534 R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.37169636 R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.45464961 R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.47731679 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
    8.57275918 R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    8.62985516 R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina
    8.81258191 R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
    9.09290933 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    9.10539950 R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
    9.10875952 R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    9.33809938 R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
    9.95745449 R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
    9.97565537 R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    10.00501874 R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
    10.13111544 R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
    10.18690336 R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
    10.19545487 R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
    10.21143966 R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto


    p.s
    i have R56 villa magana and than after him i am closest to late antiquity romans ( which some were hellenic/ greek autosomally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Iron Age Gaul

    - English : 8.2
    Thracians

    - North Italians : 8.7
    Maciamo, my mother got a distance of 6.212 to a Gaul (I don't know which Gaul though, if there're more than one). She's full Venetian in ancestry (I consider some far Western Pordenonesi as "Venetians" too).
    And my father got a distance of 7.724 to a Thracian. He's basically 75% Venetian (with irrelevant traces from Friuli) and 25% Eastern Lombard in ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Maciamo, my mother got a distance of 6.212 to a Gaul (I don't know which Gaul though, if there're more than one). She's full Venetian in ancestry (I consider some far Western Pordenonesi as "Venetians" too).
    And my father got a distance of 7.724 to a Thracian. He's basically 75% Venetian (with irrelevant traces from Friuli) and 25% Eastern Lombard in ancestry.
    Could you send me the exact result as MTA tends to mislabel a lot of samples. I have seen North Italian matches to "Cisalpine Gauls" who in fact dated from the Dark Ages.

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