My origins 3.0 is very soon

[bigsnake49]

Here're our results, mine and maternal uncle's.


Mine





Uncle's




No comments.

Wow, you're all over the place.

[Carlos]

Well, I think 100% European is very good because I have not missed Europe for half an hour.


Although this is autosomal there must be something in the trajectory of the haplogroups that could be a clue the smaller in My Origin values in minority haplogroups in Europe or no

[Duarte]

Mine in line with my
Known geneology



https://i.imgur.com/PJtQJeh.jpg

@KingJohn
Your Jewish origin is well configured in his autosomal results: 45% Jew (Ashkenazi + Sephardic) + 47% Southern Europe (Greece & Balcans + Malta & Sicily). The remaining difference to 100% is divided into population noises in the Middle East. Congratulations.

[kingjohn]

thanks durate
you anlayse it very well
best regards
adam

p.s
now let us hope for the chromosome viewer update

[Regio X]

Wow, you're all over the place.

And there is this match of my uncle, full North Italian in ancestry, that scores 0% for Italian Peninsula. Sorry to say, but no good. I wonder if FTDNA uses any reference from North Italy.

[Duarte]

And there is this match of my uncle, full North Italian in ancestry, that scores 0% for Italian Peninsula. Sorry to say, but no good. I wonder if FTDNA uses any reference from North Italy.

Perhaps you and your uncle are too displaced to the north, which made you and him capture the population clusters of Great Britain and Central Europe, in the absence of specific populations in northern Italy. The FTDNA algorithm has chosen for you two some populations that would normally appear as populacional clusters of natives from Germany and France and maybe British Isles. For me there was an improvement, since I had 16% British ancestry in version 2 and now in this version 3 I have zero. I had 72% of Iberian ancestry in version 2 and now I have 63%. The differences was attributed to the Italian Peninsula. Considering that the Iberian and Italian populations overlap in many of the autosomal algorithms, the loss of 9% of Iberian ancestry and 16% of British ancestry in favor of the Italian one is not so serious I think.

[emc]

At least my Iberian is in line with my paper trail this time. As for the high Central European, I guess it’s because my Italian is mostly from the north. My new results:
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[Boreas]

About clusters; Baltic, Magyar, North Caucasus, South Caucasus, East Caucasus etc. These are good detail ones

However; Greece & Balkans , Anatolia & Mesopotamia are not. Looks like they didn't care

I have already lost my interest

and guys please share old results too

[kingjohn]

southwest ukranian woman
close to moldova border




West Slavic 47%
East Slavic 6%
Greece & Balkans 33%
Baltic 9%
Finland 4%
Southern Levant 1%


p.s
for me personally it is better than version v2.
but i can understand people who are frustrated with v3 version and don't like there results

[Regio X]

Perhaps you and your uncle are too displaced to the north, which made you and him capture the population clusters of Great Britain and Central Europe, in the absence of specific populations in northern Italy. The FTDNA algorithm has chosen for you two some populations that would normally appear as populacional clusters of natives from Germany and France and maybe British Isles. For me there was an improvement, since I had 16% British ancestry in version 2 and now in this version 3 I have zero. I had 72% of Iberian ancestry in version 2 and now I have 63%. The differences was attributed to the Italian Peninsula. Considering that the Iberian and Italian populations overlap in many of the autosomal algorithms, the loss of 9% of Iberian ancestry and 16% of British ancestry in favor of the Italian one is not so serious I think.

Duarte, will PM you.

[spruithean]

p.s
for me personally it is better than version v2.
but i can understand people who are frustrated with v3 version and don't like there results

I think a large amount of people do not like the results because frankly FTDNA did a pretty poor job IMO. You have people with predominately British ancestry getting results saying 0% British or people of Yemeni Arab origin being labeled as “Yemenite Jewish”. Even my own results make no sense for my known origins via paper trail, something I would expect to see in my results (since it makes up such a large portion of my family tree) returns with “0%”.

[kingjohn]

I think a large amount of people do not like the results because frankly FTDNA did a pretty poor job IMO. You have people with predominately British ancestry getting results saying 0% British or people of Yemeni Arab origin being labeled as “Yemenite Jewish”. Even my own results make no sense for my known origins via paper trail, something I would expect to see in my results (since it makes up such a large portion of my family tree) returns with “0%”.

Hi
I respect your opinions
To put all the cards on the table
Ftdna are better in there family finder tool
And y haplogroup and mtdna tests
Much less in there myorigins tool
....
But false positive will happen as long as ftdna use
Those jewish refernces ( mizrahi, sefhardi, yemenite jews)
It is logical to expect overlapp in genetic markers... between non -jewish middle eastern population with those jewish references to some extent....

P.s
I also see
Those false positives in my heritage results of many people...
Having said all that i saw some results in anthrogenica of my origins 3.0 update...
And i see iberians and eastern europeans results that to me look logic..
Maybe they blew it with people of british ancestery hope they will improve in the future for all dissapointed people out there

[italouruguayan]

And there is this match of my uncle, full North Italian in ancestry, that scores 0% for Italian Peninsula. Sorry to say, but no good. I wonder if FTDNA uses any reference from North Italy.

Hard to understand.
My father is 100% of Northern Italian origin.
My mother had a Neapolitan great-grandfather. And I am 49% Italian ...

[Regio X]

Hard to understand.
My father is 100% of Northern Italian origin.
My mother had a Neapolitan great-grandfather. And I am 49% Italian ...

Hard, isn't it? And at the same time we see in this thread a Greek (PaschalisB) scoring well for Italian Peninsula: 45% (same as torzio, and higher than my uncle's and mine). It reminds me my mother scoring almost 50% for Balkan in MyHeritage. lol Also Duarte, Iberian in ancestry, scores almost 30% for Italian Peninsula.

Imo 0% is not acceptable for a N. Italian in ancestry, as well as too high scores for clusters such UK.
Below are the results of this Brazilian, with the permission of his representative. The Southern Euro part is divided into Greece & Balkan and Sardinia only. His actual ancestry is 87.5% from BL and 12.5% from N. TV.

[torzio]

Hard, isn't it? And at the same time we see in this thread a Greek (PaschalisB) scoring well for Italian Peninsula: 45% (same as torzio, and higher than my uncle's and mine). It reminds me my mother scoring almost 50% for Balkan in MyHeritage. lol Also Duarte, Iberian in ancestry, scores almost 30% for Italian Peninsula.

Imo 0% is not acceptable for a N. Italian in ancestry, as well as too high scores for clusters such UK.
Below are the results of this Brazilian, with the permission of his representative. The Southern Euro part is divided into Greece & Balkan and Sardinia only. His actual ancestry is 87.5% from BL and 12.5% from N. TV.

mine below and my wife underneath...her line both paternal and maternal and on the Livenza river, which is the border of Veneto and Friuli ( her father , northern part of Livenza and her mother southern part which is venezia province




Wife's data
Europe 100%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
39%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Western Europe
Central Europe
32%
Scandinavia
11%



In Version 1 , I had no Anatolian ....in version 2 , I had 8% Anatolian and 3% Greek/balkan .......in V3 , I have zero Anatolian and 11% Greek/Balkan



In regards to UK clusters .................I have 4 x "uk clusters" matches in ftdna with the Hill families of North and South Carolina ....they are Scots and went to USA in 1730

[Regio X]

fwiw

Below fifteen myOrigins 3.0 results from Brazilians with full North Italian ancestry. Courtesy of the same fellow who provided the results I posted previously. He made an awesome job testing many distant relatives. Some (few) of them are matches of my uncle, since they share an ancestry location.

[Boreas]

I got my and my brothers result. Those are nonsense.

My Brother - Greeks/Balkan - 35
Italy - 14

Me - Greeks/Balkan -3
Italy - 35


I have 15% Magyar, he doesn't have any

[Stuvanè]

Perhaps it has become partly more defined, I have some doubts about the Sicilian-Maltese sample, whose share in users of other forums appears in continental populations (including Hungarians...), but paradoxically it's missing precisely among Sicilians (!)

[kingjohn]

fwiw
Below fifteen myOrigins 3.0 results from Brazilians with full North Italian ancestry. Courtesy of the same fellow who provided the results I posted previously. He made an awesome job testing many distant relatives. Some (few) of them are matches of my uncle, since they share an ancestry location.

Thanks
Some of them score 20% greece balkans
Nice
Some random results different etnicity:

Azerbaijan Rep.
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%
Southern Levant
6%
Eastern Caucasus
19%
Southern Caucasus
19%
West Slavic
3%
Magyar
3%
Indus Valley
3%
southern bulgarian
Greece & Balkans - 100% ( they maybe used mainland greeks and south bulgarians for this cluster)
full lebanese christian
Middle East 98%
Northern Levant 76%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 21%
Arabian Peninsula <2%
Europe 2%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans <2%

full greek cypriot
Italian Peninsula 65%
Ashkenazi Jewish <1%
Northern Levant: 19%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia: 14%
Sephardic Jewish: <2%
full croatian
west salvic : 40%
east slavic : 10%
central europe : 32%
baltic: 7%
greece balkan : 8%
sicily / malta : 2%

full tuscan
ITALIAN PENINSULA:54%
IBERIAN PENINSULA:14%
SARDINIA: 6%
IRELAND:10%
CENTRAL EUROPE:16%

full costa- rican :
iberian peninsula: 62%
scandinavia : 3%
ireland <2%
finland <1%
amerindian - central america : 30%
africa : 3%
maghreb < 1%

full ukranian
East Slavic
45%
West Slavic
28%
Baltic
24%
Greece & Balkans
2%
Central Europe<2%

Florina north greece
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florina
( i don't know if this person define himself as macedonian or slavic macedonian )������
His results:
86% greece -balkans
14% west slavic

Full belarusian person:
- East Slavic 67%
- West Slavic 33%

Full pashtun person:
• Afghanistan & Northern Pakistan 30%
• Indus Valley 29%
• Southern India 9%
• Western India 6%
• Northern India 4%
• Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 8%
• Southern Caucasus 6%
• Magyar 6%
• East Slavic <2%
• Scandinavia <2%

[emc]

This update wasn't so good for my grandma. Her grandparents were from Mantua, Lucca, Reggio Emilia and Padua:

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[kingjohn]

This update wasn't so good for my grandma. Her grandparents were from Mantua, Lucca, Reggio Emilia and Padua:
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can't see the pictures ( maybe it is only me )
P.s
Ok now i can see her results
Weird in my iphone i can
In my computer i couldn't
Her iberian is to high ( if she doesn't have portuguase ancestery and only north italian ancestery the rest look logic to me )



southern romanian

West Slavic 25%
East Slavic 3%
Magyar 4%


Greece & Balkans 42%
Sardinia 14%


Ireland <2%
Great Britain 4%

Baltic 4%
Finnish 2%

Druze <1%
Sephardic Jewish <1%




A Czech
70% West Slavic
20% Central Europe
8% Italian Peninsula
<2% Magyar


damn look logic

[HYGILI4K]

Now my results are much more precise. Father of full italian descent (mostly from north), central portuguese mother. The only think that doesn't make sense is the Magyar.

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[Dorquest]

Europe
100%

Western Europe 79%

Central Europe
29%
Scandinavia
25%
Ireland
25%

Great Britain

<0%


Eastern Europe 13%

West Slavic
13%

Southern Europe 8%

Basque
3%
Iberian Peninsula
3%
Italian Peninsula
<2%

No British, first time for me. Must be buried in the Central European... or Scandinavia. Must be a Norman or Viking invader. Hey I'm part Italian too... Omnium Rerum Principia Parva Sunt !


Old results:

Europe 100%
European West and Central Europe 86%
European Scandinavia 11%
European East Europe 3%

[TardisBlue]

Here's my update, it's a vast improvement compared to MyOrigins 2.0:



For comparison, MyOrigins 2.0 gave me:
West and Central Europe: 55% Southeast Europe: 17% East Europe: 9% Middle-East: 19%

[kingjohn]

Here's my update, it's a vast improvement compared to MyOrigins 2.0:

For comparison, MyOrigins 2.0 gave me:
West and Central Europe: 55% Southeast Europe: 17% East Europe: 9% Middle-East: 19%

Nice
Look generally speaking more or less
correct reflecting your campanian and french roots
Thanks for sharing



p.s
full croatian from split

Greece & Balkans
40%
Iberian Peninsula
5%
West Slavic
43%
Baltic
12%

only the iberian is weird but it is low %