My origins 3.0 is very soon

fwiw

Below fifteen myOrigins 3.0 results from Brazilians with full North Italian ancestry. Courtesy of the same fellow who provided the results I posted previously. He made an awesome job testing many distant relatives. Some (few) of them are matches of my uncle, since they share an ancestry location.

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I got my and my brothers result. Those are nonsense.

My Brother - Greeks/Balkan - 35
Italy - 14

Me - Greeks/Balkan -3
Italy - 35


I have 15% Magyar, he doesn't have any
 
Perhaps it has become partly more defined, I have some doubts about the Sicilian-Maltese sample, whose share in users of other forums appears in continental populations (including Hungarians...), but paradoxically it's missing precisely among Sicilians (!)
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fwiw
Below fifteen myOrigins 3.0 results from Brazilians with full North Italian ancestry. Courtesy of the same fellow who provided the results I posted previously. He made an awesome job testing many distant relatives. Some (few) of them are matches of my uncle, since they share an ancestry location.
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Thanks (y)
Some of them score 20% greece balkans
Nice :cool-v:
Some random results different etnicity::)

Azerbaijan Rep.
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%
Southern Levant
6%
Eastern Caucasus
19%
Southern Caucasus
19%
West Slavic
3%
Magyar
3%
Indus Valley
3%
southern bulgarian
Greece & Balkans - 100% ( they maybe used mainland greeks and south bulgarians for this cluster)
full lebanese christian
Middle East 98%
Northern Levant 76%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 21%
Arabian Peninsula <2%
Europe 2%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans <2%

full greek cypriot
Italian Peninsula 65%
Ashkenazi Jewish <1%
Northern Levant: 19%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia: 14%
Sephardic Jewish: <2%
full croatian
west salvic : 40%
east slavic : 10%
central europe : 32%
baltic: 7%
greece balkan : 8%
sicily / malta : 2%

full tuscan
ITALIAN PENINSULA:54%
IBERIAN PENINSULA:14%
SARDINIA: 6%
IRELAND:10%
CENTRAL EUROPE:16%

full costa- rican :
iberian peninsula: 62%
scandinavia : 3%
ireland <2%
finland <1%
amerindian - central america : 30%
africa : 3%
maghreb < 1%

full ukranian
East Slavic
45%
West Slavic
28%
Baltic
24%
Greece & Balkans
2%
Central Europe<2%

Florina north greece
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florina
( i don't know if this person define himself as macedonian or slavic macedonian )������
His results:
86% greece -balkans
14% west slavic

Full belarusian person:
- East Slavic 67%
- West Slavic 33%

Full pashtun person:
• Afghanistan & Northern Pakistan 30%
• Indus Valley 29%
• Southern India 9%
• Western India 6%
• Northern India 4%
• Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 8%
• Southern Caucasus 6%
• Magyar 6%
• East Slavic <2%
• Scandinavia <2%
 
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This update wasn't so good for my grandma. Her grandparents were from Mantua, Lucca, Reggio Emilia and Padua:

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This update wasn't so good for my grandma. Her grandparents were from Mantua, Lucca, Reggio Emilia and Padua:
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can't see the pictures :sad-2: ( maybe it is only me )
P.s
Ok now i can see her results :cool-v:
Weird in my iphone i can
In my computer i couldn't:unsure:
Her iberian is to high:rolleyes: ( if she doesn't have portuguase ancestery and only north italian ancestery the rest look logic to me )



southern romanian

West Slavic 25%
East Slavic 3%
Magyar 4%


Greece & Balkans 42%
Sardinia 14%


Ireland <2%
Great Britain 4%

Baltic 4%
Finnish 2%

Druze <1%
Sephardic Jewish <1%




A Czech
70% West Slavic
20% Central Europe
8% Italian Peninsula
<2% Magyar


damn look logic (y)
 
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Now my results are much more precise. Father of full italian descent (mostly from north), central portuguese mother. The only think that doesn't make sense is the Magyar.

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Europe
100%

Western Europe 79%

Central Europe
29%
Scandinavia
25%
Ireland
25%

Great Britain

<0%


Eastern Europe 13%

West Slavic
13%

Southern Europe 8%

Basque
3%
Iberian Peninsula
3%
Italian Peninsula
<2%

No British, first time for me. Must be buried in the Central European... or Scandinavia. Must be a Norman or Viking invader. Hey I'm part Italian too... Omnium Rerum Principia Parva Sunt !


Old results:

Europe 100%
European West and Central Europe 86%
European Scandinavia 11%
European East Europe 3%
 
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Here's my update, it's a vast improvement compared to MyOrigins 2.0:

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For comparison, MyOrigins 2.0 gave me:
West and Central Europe: 55% Southeast Europe: 17% East Europe: 9% Middle-East: 19%
 
Here's my update, it's a vast improvement compared to MyOrigins 2.0:
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For comparison, MyOrigins 2.0 gave me:
West and Central Europe: 55% Southeast Europe: 17% East Europe: 9% Middle-East: 19%
Nice :cool-v:
Look generally speaking more or less
correct reflecting your campanian and french roots:unsure:
Thanks for sharing (y)



p.s
full croatian from split :)
Greece & Balkans
40%
Iberian Peninsula
5%
West Slavic
43%
Baltic
12%

only the iberian is weird but it is low % :cool-v:


 
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full moroccan berber

maghreb- egypt - 83%

mizrahi jewish < 3%
yemenite jewish < 1%

malta-sicily -6%
sardinia -6%
ireland 3%

p.s
except the ireland 3 %
everything look logic to me
the person himself didn't like his results
i think they are fair and logic for a berber
 
full lithaunian (don't know from where in lithaunia)
baltic - 73%
west slavic -27%


eastern poland
west slavic -64%
baltic -27%
greece balkan - 10%


full danish ( don't know from where in denmark )
scandinavia 100% ( there are still some pure people or he matches the scandinavian refrences of ftdna like a glove ....):unsure:
 
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Take a look at this, Adam. It is my results of the Vahaduo Dodecad K7b Ancient added from the samples below (samples from ancient Iberians from the study by Olalde et al):

Code:
I3575_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0.14,9.54,0.2,7.03,34.33,48.26,0.5
I3578_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0,10.93,0,5.76,36.91,46.41,0
I3583_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,2.35,8.37,0.62,4.44,38.23,46,0
I3775_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCatalonia,0,7.14,0,0.88,23.47,65.44,3.07
I3776_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCatalonia,0,13.47,1.63,0,22.18,62.72,0
I3778_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCatalonia,4.01,4.41,0,0,23.65,67.93,0
I3808_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndalusia,2,17.88,0.5,4.35,40.12,35.16,0
I3866_600–700CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCatalonia,0,11.62,0,1.65,23.66,63.07,0
I3980_677–866calCE_VentasdeZafarrayaGranadaAndalusia,0,14.43,0,6.6,39.97,39,0
I4054_200–400CE_PlazaEinsteinGranadaAndalusia,0.26,17.28,0,4.17,34.23,43.72,0.33
I6490_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalonia,0,9.63,0,1.64,22.71,64.93,1.09
I6491_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalonia,0,28.22,0,0.05,20.06,51.67,0
I6492_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalonia,4.87,2.25,0,0,17.23,75.5,0.15
I7158_200–500CE_MasGassolAlcoverTarragonaCatalonia,0,0,0,0,55.23,44.77,0
I7423_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndalusia,0,4.36,0,4.57,38.75,51.68,0.63
I7424_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndalusia,0.07,16.07,0.01,4.01,36.02,43.82,0
I7426_1500–1600CE_Mondújar(Lecrín)GranadaAndalusia,0,5.57,6.56,2.97,39.98,37.89,7.02
I7458_1100–1300CE_AlhamadeGranadaGranadaAndalusia,0,28.23,3.86,0,18.49,49.42,0
I7499_1000–1100CE_HuéscarGranadaAndalusia,0,19.14,0,4.93,39.83,35.51,0.59
I7500_900–1100CE_TorrenuevaGranadaAndalusia,4.01,17.36,1.56,3.6,38.5,34.96,0
I7672_785–801CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCatalonia,4.31,0.94,0,0.13,19.05,75.56,0
I7674_785–801CE_L'EsquerdaRodadeTerBarcelonaCatalonia,6.01,2.74,0,1.51,29.37,60.37,0
I8145_1300–1500CE_LaZubiaGranadaAndalusia,0.25,9.27,0,7.59,35.53,47.36,0
I8147_1300–1500CE_LaZubiaGranadaAndalusia,0,13.15,0,5.82,46.76,33.6,0.68
I10854_973–1150calCE_SantJuliàdRamisGironaCatalonia,0,0,0,0,34.36,51.24,14.4
I10897_1033–1204calCE_SantJuliàdRamisGironaCatalonia,1.07,8.1,0.81,1.73,20.91,65.34,2.03
I12029_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,6.88,6.85,0,0,14.6,71.66,0
I12030_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,4.25,13.57,0.17,2.91,33.05,46.05,0
I12031_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,0.98,14.06,0.53,0.65,21.59,60.35,1.84
I12033_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,1.9,16.36,0,0,15.52,65.11,1.12
I12162_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,0,14.7,0,1.32,16.18,65.65,2.16
I12646_1100–1300CE_València,0,0,0,5.77,52.4,41.83,0
I12648_1100–1300CE_València,0,6.65,0,2.5,24.8,64.11,1.93
I12650_1100–1300CE_València,0,0,0,0.84,28.21,70.95,0
I2469_910–840calBCE_ElSotilloLaguardiaÁlavaBasqueCountry,0.96,10.39,0,0,26.85,61.8,0
I2472_1605–1425calBCE_ElSotilloLaguardiaÁlavaBasqueCountry,0,0.47,0,0,28.93,70.01,0.59
I3238_2500–2200BCE_CuevadelaPalomaSotodelasReguerasAsturias,0,5.7,0,0.99,20.22,72.24,0.84
I3324_360–193calBCE_OrceGranadaAndalusia,0,6.28,1.26,0.72,22.46,69.06,0.23
I3576_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0,11.2,1.11,5.01,36.86,45.82,0
I3581_400–600CE_MontefríoGranadaAndalusia,0,10.11,0.1,3.93,36.47,48.03,1.35
I4055_200–400CE_PlazaEinsteinGranadaAndalusia,0,8.83,2.52,4.38,35.66,48.6,0
I8209_450–400BCE_EmpúriesGironaCatalonia,0.06,8.75,0,0.48,22.74,67.68,0.29
I8339_100–200CE_EmpúriesGironaCatalonia,3.12,1.86,0,0.48,24.47,68.78,1.28
I12032_500–600CE_SarriàdeTerGironaCatalonia,0,12.87,1.37,0.44,17.35,67.97,0
I12410_515–375calBCE_515–375calBCE_PacsdelPenedèsBarcelonaCatalonia,0,0,0,1.23,28.09,69.69,0.98
I12561_700–500BCE_AlcaládelRíoSevillaAndalusia,5.63,0,0,0,30.37,64,0
I12640_696–540BCE_SabadellBarcelonaCatalonia,0,0.87,0,1.51,31.9,65.73,0
I12878_507–366calBCE_PacsdelPenedèsBarcelonaCatalonia,0,0,0,0.67,28.54,70.79,0
VAD002_1689–1528calBCE_ValdescusaHervíasLaRioja,0,0,0.85,0,26.34,71.58,1.22
I1977_1660–1454calBCE_LaguardiaÁlavaBasqueCountry,0,5.9,0,0.36,27.36,66.37,0
I3243_2500–2200BCE_CuevadelaPalomaAsturias,0,12.31,0,0,13.96,68.84,4.9
VisigothIberianGirona_I12034,0.02,6.92,0.13,0.33,22.96,67.77,1.86
CuevadelaPalomaSpain_2350BC_I3239,3.34,4.9,0,0.98,20.83,69.36,0.59
IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498,1.24,9.8,1.8,3.76,31.87,51.54,0
RomanSoldier_FN_2,0,7.73,0.24,3.09,25,62.76,1.19
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584,0,8.47,0.09,2.75,28.54,58.52,1.63
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585,1.09,9.01,0.91,3.16,31.97,53.67,0.21
EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981,0,10.91,0,4.28,32.53,51.91,0.37
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982,0,7.79,0.68,4.87,34.47,52.19,0
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983,0,12.09,0,5.98,37.14,43.91,0.89
CarthagoAl-AndalusAlhama_I7457,0,10.19,0,7.01,33.69,49.11,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673,1.4,8.5,0,0.64,27.68,61.17,0.61
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675,0,7.27,0,1.12,27.36,63.47,0.78
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852,1.99,9.12,0,1.69,26.20,61,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853,1.36,11.07,0,1.68,29.33,56.56,0
Roman-EraEmpuries_I10866,0.33,5,0.78,6.23,27.53,60.14,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892,0.21,10.18,0.24,1.52,28.53,58.85,0.47
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895,0,8.58,0.17,1.62,29.37,59.86,0.39
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514,0,8.58,1.57,3.15,29.37,56.66,0.67
SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515,0,12.15,0,2.76,32.25,51.62,1.22
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516,0,10.12,0.32,2.9,29.76,56.68,0.22
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649,0,14.79,0.71,1.52,29.59,53.39,0
Post-ReconquistaGranada_I7425,0,12.2,0,8.37,32.89,44.99,1.54
Hispano-RomanTaifaofValencia_I12647,0,11.44,0.55,4.55,33.56,49.9,0
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12645,0.74,17.35,0,0.69,32.11,49.1,0
Late-RomanEraMontefrioGranada_I3582,2.13,10.54,0,4.58,35.22,47.53,0
Greco-EraEmporion_425BC_I8341,2.02,0,0.35,0,18.99,74.51,4.14
LateRoman-EraEmporion_I8343,0,7.71,0,1.57,35.42,55.3,0
BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_1290BC_I12208,0.44,0.36,0,1.77,30.57,65.52,1.35
Roman-CarthagoMixEmpuries_I8475,0.57,14.41,0.41,0.83,33.01,50.77,0
BronzeAgeSpainCogotas_1290BC_I12209,0,0,0,1.04,28.17,69.64,1.15
Hispano-Roman-MehrebiCordobaCaliphate_I7497,0,8.89,0,4.92,38.16,45.1,2.92
Post-ReconquistaGranada_I3807,0,13.99,0.81,4.35,33.34,47.5,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7676,1.47,13.47,0,0,21.59,63.48,0
IberianSettlementCataloniaSpain_I3496,1.67,1.74,0.52,1.1,25.39,69.59,0
Iberian/SpaniardCordobaCaliphat_I3809,4.39,14.15,0,3.58,28.85,49.02,0
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3574,1.04,12.02,0,1.92,32.24,52.77,0
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3579,3.02,12.97,0.19,2.04,31.84,49.94,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10851,2.61,12.48,0,1.53,24.08,59.31,0
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3577,0,1.99,0.95,2.13,36.13,58.8,0
IberianTaifaofValencia_I12644,0,10.18,1.44,4.52,35.72,48.13,0
TrypillianVertebaCaveUkraine_3500_BC_I1926,0,1.22,0,0.96,38.88,58.94,0
CopperAgeAlburg-LerchenhaidStraubingBavaria_2225BC_I3590,0,14.44,0.99,1.56,21.37,61.64,0
LaZubiaGranadaAndaluzia_1300-1500CE_I8146,0,11.3,0,11.9,33.42,43.37,0
NE_Iberia_Pladel'HortaSarriàdeTerGirona_500CE_I12164,0.66,16.74,0.02,0,17.68,64.9,0
IlergetesTribeCatalan_600BC_I4566,6.54,21.3,17.59,0.32,0,52.32,1.92
IlergetesTribeCatalan_200BC_I3320,0.31,3.25,0,1.7,28.19,65.92,0.63
IlercavonesCatalan_200BC_I3321,0,1.66,0.12,0.87,28.99,68.36,0
BasquePost-RomanEraBarcelona_650AD_I3777,0.41,10.22,1.61,0.29,22,65.46,0
BronzeAgeNorthernSpain_1560BC_VAD001,0.95,2.93,0,0.55,26.2,69.26,0.1

Distance to:Duarte
4.87655616PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
4.96405077EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
5.26381991PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
5.82155478Roman-EraEmpuries_I10866
6.29609403GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.42997667GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
6.88409035GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.23286942EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.28958161GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
7.40809017C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
7.64748978RomanSoldier_FN_2
7.94598012C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
7.95412472GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10851
8.01921443CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
8.11814018EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.12233341C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
8.20206681IberianCordobaCaliphate_I7498
8.21397589France_IA:NOR3-15
8.34727500C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
8.36759822C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
8.44770975C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
8.61048779C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
8.71397728C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
8.76621355C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
8.86159692Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.7529% / 0.75292904 | ADC: 0.25x
46.8EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
18.4Roman-EraEmpuries_I10866
17.2Post-ReconquistaGranada_I7425
9.4Foggia_MA:VK538
6.4Ukraine_Mesolithic:I1763_Ukraine_Mesolithic
1.8LaZubiaGranadaAndaluzia_1300-1500CE_I8146


The results of the Dodecad K7b compared with the more recent results displayed by FTDNAMyOrigins3.0 are quite consistent ,IMO, which makes this calculator an excellent commercial calculator, at least in my case. I notice that there was a small change in my last results of FTDNAMyOrigins3.0 , with the addition of <1% of Myanmar and <1% of South Africa, which did not affect the final result because the last two ethnicities that was added it was computed as background noise (probably a background noise that stayed recorded in my genotype due the old Brazilian Amerindians and the former african slaves that arrived in Brazil with Portuguese the settlers, considering that I am a native of Brazil - more a proof that FTDNA is in the correct line, in my specific case).

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Europe
85%
Southern Europe

Italian Peninsula
49%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Iberian Peninsula
4%

Western Europe
Central Europe
8%

Eastern Europe
East Slavic
7%

Americas
12%
Americas

Amerindian – Central & South Mexico
11%
Amerindian – Andes & Caribbean
info
<1%
Amerindian – Central America
info
<1%

Middle East
<3%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt
info
<3%

Africa
<2%
Horn of Africa
Eritrea, Northern Ethiopia & Somalia
info
<2%
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Results for us are better than with 2.0 and, in fact, arguably the best from any current company. Not that there are not likely some issues, but overall the issues seem less now.

They now break down Eastern European into more regions so that makes that are much more informative than under version 2.0 or over at 23andme. It now detects Western European for Baltic people while the old 2.0 version struggled to do that. The new 23andm3 v5 also struggles badly with that (it does find it, but wayyyy underplays it). MyHeritage sometimes finds it and sometimes misses it. The old v3 of 23andme was very good at this though, maybe the best any test has done, but they messed that up with the new v5. Also 23andm3 v3 used to give my dad a bit of Finnish and the chromosome painter showed it, for instance on one spot that my dad has a slew of 99-100% Finnish matches and now v5 doesn't give him any.

FTDNA v2.0:
me: 99% East Europe, <1% Southeast Europe

mom: 100% East Europe

dad: 91% East Europe, 8% Finland
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FTDNA v3.0:
me: 93% Baltic, 6% Ireland, <1% Magyar, <1% Western Siberian Plains

mom: 93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland

dad: 69% Baltic, 19% West Slavic, 7% Finland, 4% Ireland
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23andme v5 (seems much worse for us than their old v3):
me: 95.3% Eastern European, 2.6% Greek & Balkan, 0.6% French & German, 0.8% Broadly Northwestern European, 0.7% Broadly European
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania = Highly Likely; Poland and Russia = Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Gulbene and Nereta - intermediate shading

mom: 99.8% Eastern European, 0.2% Broadly European (I forget but I think v3 said something like 91% Eastern European and 8% Broadly Northwestern European and 1% unassigned.)
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania = Highly Likely; Russia = Likely; Poland and Ukraine = Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Gulbene - intermediate shading; Nereta, Jelgava, Ludza - light shading

dad: 98.0% Eastern European, 0.9% French & German, 0.8% Broadly Northwestern European, Broadly Northwestern European 0.3%
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania - Highly Likely; Poland and Russia - Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Liepaja and Ludza - intermediate shading
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MyHeritage:
me: 95.5% Baltic; 1.0% East European; 3.5% Irish, Scottish and Welsh

mom: 100.0% Baltic

dad: 85.3% Baltic; 13.3% Irish, Scottish and Welsh; 1.4% North African
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Geno 2.0:
I forget the numbers exactly for the ancient world components but they could be parsed to imply:
mom: might have a lot of Baltic/Eastern European and a bit of Western European and a little bit of Oceanian
dad: might have a lot of Baltic/Eastern European, a bit of Western European, a bit of some sort of Romanian/western Ukrainian/general Balkan type element and some Finnish and possible a touch of something more exotic
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now as per what we have managed going by genealogical research:
mom: 37.5% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Nereta, Latvia; 12.5% unknown father of lateish 1800s ancestor (just over border in Lithuania from Nereta, might well not be entirely Latvian or Lithuanian, could be Polish or Balkan or Baltic German or who knows); 25% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Valmiera, Latvia; 12.5% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Jelgava (also one born in Latvian outpost in Lithuania run by Baltic German barons who had cross ties to Jelgava, quite possible that strictly maternal line eventually leads to something very unusual and interesting, mtDNA is of a type that is Western European so some bit of this 12.5% virtually certainly goes to something not actually ethnic Baltic Latvian; FWIW this person came from a spot in Lithuania where some Lithuanian testers have scored msyterious tiny bits of Oceanian on some DNA tests as did my mom on Geno 2.0 and Eurogenes K13, one of her matches actually got nearly 3% at Eurogenes K13 and some others get traces at 23andme and elsewhere); 12.5% Baltic German (but one person at 3.125% level of one of these branches has a Scottish seeming surname Barclay and at least some bit of that must eventually trace back to the UK with a potential stop in Scandinavia along the way possible as some Barclay went to the Baltics directly, some with first stop in Poland/Prussia and others first through Scandinavia; also at 1.5625% level one person has an odd rare variant Slavic type surname maybe from Slovakia or Poland but there are bizarre record confusions and this person might possibly instead supposed to be someone else who would be ethnic Baltic Latvian instead; 4.6875% of this Baltic German line stuff seems to go to people who likely would eventually trace back to Germany in the early 1700s or 1600s; and finally 3.125% level has someone with a surname that might well trace back to Germany in early 1700s or 1600s or earlier or then again just as likely trace back to ultimate Scandinavian roots; and of course these Baltic German lines can at any point farther back have ties mixed in to who knows what)

Anyway, so let us note we get from that Latvian regions of: a LOT of Nereta (37.5%-50%), quite a bit of Valmiera (25%) and some Jelgava (around 12.5%) and then the rest a mix of all over Latvia and beyond. Only 23andme tries to pick out such regions (by using DNA matches and various normalizations and weightings of them and so on) and didn't note Valmiera at all and noted possible Jelgava connection. Then it noted a heavy Riga expectation which is not apparent in reality at all, but it's known that any truly major city in a country tends to swamp out and trick the 23andme algorithm so almost everyone gets the major city in country of primary origin marked with super heaviest expectation and one has to always take that with a huge grain of salt. It then added a somewhat strong Gulbene guess, her mother was born there so kinda correct but none of the ancestry is from there and no cross relations to anyone there so it's a bit odd to show up and then the Ludza well hard to say so far zero Latgale ancestry known for my mom (or dad) but she (as well as my dad) do get a decent number of DNA matches there so somehow there is some connection over there maybe some roving Baltic German spread cross ties from there to places of our known ancestry or something?

Anyway from that as far as countries go we get origin ethnicities of: Latvian for sure tons, possibly a little Lithuanian, likely a little German, a little bit of UK that is probably Scottish, maybe could be a little Scandinavian and Polish/Slovakian and of course unknown hidden stuff. So far only 23andme really gets into countries and they picked Latvia strongly which fits, Lithuania strongly which could well fit, Russia semi-strongly which could fit but so far has not shown up, Poland possibly which could possibly fit and Ukranian which maybe could possibly fit but not shown up so far yet

Anyway from that as far as the basic ancestry comp breakdown expected:
Baltic: 75%-89% (maybe to 93% if almost every single thing went Baltic way and some more mixed in a bit farther back again in Baltic German lines)

UK (probably Scottish): fractional%-3% (depending upon how much mixing they had outside of UK on their ancestral line which has not been traced at all, whatever is not UK is probably either German or

Scandinavian but could be other stuff too)

Polish/Slovakian: 0.0%-1.6%

German: probably 5%-9%

Scandinavian: 0.0%-5%

not traced but there is probably around 1%-2% Oceanian based on various external tests and match tests

some mix of anything from someone who seemed to have one and quite possible more out of wedlock kids in mid to late 1800s in the Baltics which would total to non-Baltic of: 0.0%-12.5% and could add up to 12.% to any category above or to a new category or categories

so maybe:
Baltic: 85%-88%
German: 6%-8%
Scandinavian: 0%-5%
Scottish/UK: 1%-3%
Oceanian: 1%-2%
Slavic: 0%-3%

a wild guess of what maybe it could be:
Baltic: 85%
German: 6%
Scandinavian: 3%
Slavic: 3%
Scottish: 2%
Oceanian: 1%

but some uncertainties, certainly LOTS of Baltic but NOT all Baltic, hard to peg it especially with the one mystery mid to late 1800s out of wedlock with unknown father that could really swing things around

The traced ancestry seems to overall perfectly fit with the general ancient component projections of Geno 2.0 and with the more modern component type DNA tests the closest matches overall would seem to be 23andm3 v3 (something like 91% Eastern European, 8% Broadly Northwestern European and 1% Unassigned) and MyOrigins 3.0 (93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland) with 23andm3 v5 (99.8% Eastern European and 0.2% Broadly European) and MyHeritage (100% Baltic) results not quite as good.

And this is long so I will continue with detailed breakdown for my dad tomorrow.
 
So a latvian with 93% baltic in my origins 3.0
Again logic 👍
from what i see most complains from
People of british heritage
Irish read as british- isels or vice versa,
they score
Central europe or scandinavia sometimes 🤔
 
some small changes in :
ftdna my origins 3.0 references :


1. Great Britain is now England, Wales and Scotland ( look like ireland another category)

2. Malta and Sicily is now Malta
 
mine below and my wife underneath...her line both paternal and maternal and on the Livenza river, which is the border of Veneto and Friuli ( her father , northern part of Livenza and her mother southern part which is venezia province




Wife's data
Europe 100%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
39%
Greece & Balkans
18%
Western Europe
Central Europe
32%
Scandinavia
11%




In Version 1 , I had no Anatolian ....in version 2 , I had 8% Anatolian and 3% Greek/balkan .......in V3 , I have zero Anatolian and 11% Greek/Balkan



In regards to UK clusters .................I have 4 x "uk clusters" matches in ftdna with the Hill families of North and South Carolina ....they are Scots and went to USA in 1730


My Great Britain became Ireland and Scotland in these changes



.................

my sister does not have any british isles

Europe 100%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
51%
Sardinia
8%
Western Europe
Central Europe
38%
Baltic
Baltic
3%




strange ....when we both have 3 to 4 matches with women from Scania Sweden
 
some small changes in :
ftdna my origins 3.0 references :


1. Great Britain is now England, Wales and Scotland ( look like ireland another category)

2. Malta and Sicily is now Malta

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