K7b Lazaridis et al. 2017 (Dodecad K7b)

Because the southern european gene
Flow was pre-bottleneck we experienced in medival time
I don't expect to see we share ibd with
Italians....
But there is overlap in genetic markers
But i do agree that we can aquired it in asia minor could be greek geneflow....

P.s
About aschenazi mtdna yes...
J1c7a, v7a, look european aquired to me
But most ashkenazim belong to woman mtdna founders (k1a1b1a, k1a9, n1b2, k2a9)
 
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Palermo Trapani said:
Salento: I would think your updated ancient map of matches would look similar to mine. Am I correct?
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... I checked, ... I think my 23andme and AncestryDNA Deep Dive maps are somewhat similar to yours,

the Combined (bigger file) has more matches, though Ötzi is closer to me in the smaller 23andme, lol

I often gain or lose matches when I re-upload the files, sometimes I get more Spanish, Seleucids, Hittites and others, ...

:unsure: Majority of our matches are not far from the coastline, ... we’re some other Sea People :grin:

23andme:
JhZH3Uv.jpg

Combined:
kHOgTAM.jpg
 
I’m looking at the maps above, ... more or less, all roads lead to Rome :)
 
Salento said:
I’m looking at the maps above, ... more or less, all roads lead to Rome :)
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Thanks, yes I agree, all Roads lead to the Eternal City. That 900 BC from the Black Sea area. First time I have seen that one show up, is that one of these new samples? How do you get your MTA Map too that size. I use SNIP and save it as a Jpeg but I can't format it larger, or least, haven't figured that out yet, or maybe my snipper doesn't have that capability:unsure:
 
Palermo Trapani said:
Thanks, yes I agree, all Roads lead to the Eternal City. That 900 BC from the Black Sea area. First time I have seen that one show up, is that one of these new samples? How do you get your MTA Map too that size. I use SNIP and save it as a Jpeg but I can't format it larger, or least, haven't figured that out yet, or maybe my snipper doesn't have that capability:unsure:
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... with the iPhone, I just press on it, I save the images and upload them to imgur, ... that’s it, no editing required :)

... you probably saw that Thracian a few months ago :)

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threa...s-Calculators)?p=599848&viewfull=1#post599848

M7exLGv.jpg
 
Salento: Ok, thanks, never thought of using iphone from screen. As for the 900 Black See Sample, for some reason just I just seemed to notice it this time. Looks like the sample is plotting in Genoa, Liguria area on your PCA Plot.
 
matadworf said:
7.36650528I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
10.26614826I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
12.85325640I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
15.57055233I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
19.50467380I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
23.41702372I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
23.84516303I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
24.32356882I2495_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
24.56317976I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
24.67506839I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
24.81119102I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
24.96022636I2499_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
26.33523875I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
26.52846019I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
27.84392752I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
28.48974201I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
28.62323182I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
29.29516172I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
29.85156445I2683_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
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That's pretty close to the Myceneans @metaworf.
 
Distance to:
 Florere
6.48521395
 I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
13.40099996
 I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
17.18648306
 I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
21.27812257
 I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
21.73558603
 I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
25.61194643
 I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
26.03917817
 I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
27.99748917
 I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
28.23294529
 I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
29.16242788
 I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
29.85748482
 I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
30.02149230
 I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
31.22676416
 I2495_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
31.43942111
 I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
32.09724443
 I2499_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
32.29271899
 I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
33.03961864
 I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
34.69445345
 I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
36.94967253
 I2683_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
 
Target: Carlos
Distance: 19.9229% / 19.92288383
100.0I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete

Distance to:Carlos
19.92288383I9123_Bronze_Age_Armenoi_Crete
26.64584208I9033_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Peristeria_Tryfilia_Peloponnese
31.11317245I9041_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
32.78659482I9010_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese
35.73179956I9129_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
36.38643154I9006_Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Agia_Kyriaki_Salamis
36.46883464I2937_Greece_Neolithic_Diros_Alepotrypa_Cave
40.26341391I9128_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
41.13679983I9130_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
41.86196961I0071_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
42.25278571I9127_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
42.38011208I0074_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
45.01176180I0073_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
45.44315570I9005_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
45.90472634I2495_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
46.16445494I0070_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Hagios_Charalambos_Cave_Lasithi_Crete
46.98785375I2499_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province
48.60232916I9131_Bronze_Age_Minoan_Moni_Odigitria_Heraklion_Crete
51.69632482I2683_Bronze_Age_Harmanören-Göndürle_Höyük_Isparta_Province

 
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