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    originally posted by user Imesmouden from anthrogenica

    Hicham El Guerrouj (Arabic: هشام الݣروج, Hishāmu l-Karrūj; Berber: Hisham El Gerruj, ⵀⵉⵛⴰⵎ ⴻⵍ ⴳⴻⵔⵔⵓⵊ; born 14 September 1974) is a retired Moroccan middle-distance runner. El Guerrouj is the current world record holder of the outdoor 1500 metres, mile, and 2000 metres events. He also held indoor world records for the mile and 1500 metres until 2019, and is the only man since Paavo Nurmi to earn a gold medal in both the 1500 metres and 5000 metres at the same Olympic Games. El Guerrouj is considered the greatest middle-distance runner in history[4][5][6] and is also viewed as one of the greatest athletes of all time.[7]
    El Guerrouj has also won the world championship in the 1500 meters six times: four consecutive times outdoors in 1997, 1999, 2001, and 2003 and twice indoors in 1995 and 1997 and has won the World Athlete of the Year awards three times.[8][9] He holds 7 of the fastest 10 times ever run in the 1500 metres and in the mile.[10][11]
    In November 2014, he was inducted into the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) Hall of Fame.[12]



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    Hicham El Guerrouj , the Morocco's olympics champion is E-M81 confirmed ✔️

    Source : his nephew 23andme result


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    he is a great middle distance runner
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    Direct paternal line : mizrahi from damascus
    e-fgc7391
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FGC7391/

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slobod...C5%A1evi%C4%87

    Milosevic, Arandjelovdan, Lopate, Podgorica, E-V13> Y30977> Y37092> Y126722
    It belongs to the Vasojevic family. The haplotype of the test subject has an elevated value of the marker DYS570 = 20.
    The Milosevics are a brotherhood from the branch of Vasojevic - Rajevic - Lopac. One of them is Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of Serbia and Yugoslavia.









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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slobod...C5%A1evi%C4%87

    Milosevic, Arandjelovdan, Lopate, Podgorica, E-V13> Y30977> Y37092> Y126722
    It belongs to the Vasojevic family. The haplotype of the test subject has an elevated value of the marker DYS570 = 20.
    The Milosevics are a brotherhood from the branch of Vasojevic - Rajevic - Lopac. One of them is Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of Serbia and Yugoslavia.









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    Interesting. That's one of the older Southern clades of E-V13 (LBA).

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    One of the founders of KLA/UCK in Kosovo War, Adem Jashari, was E-V13, E-V13 => L241. He belonged to Berisha-Kuqi tribe, the Kuqi from Kosove have no relationship with the Berishas or the original Kuqi from Montenegro. But to me it looks like the Kuqi was more of a territorial designation, but interesting enough all people claiming to be Kuqi belong to E-V13 S2979 subclades.



    Though, not verified by all means, but likely one of the famous KLA Commandos Ramush Haradinaj is E-V13 => L241 as well (A Thaq from Iballe in origin, the Thaq from Iballe are exclusively E-V13 => L241).



    Another key KLA person Hashim Thaqi claims the same ancestry as Ramush Haradinaj, Thaq from Iballe (there have been rumours that a person from the same village has been tested R1b-Z2103 though, but that's yet to be verified because it will go against the claim of his family for the ancestry).


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    yes could be late bronze age

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    I was recently contacted by some people claiming to be my relatives. It was very strange to hear that, especially from people you don't know, but they explained it to me and sent me the details of the family tree, which included me, too. My mom and dad were there too, and even those relatives of mine that I very rarely contact, so it sounds plausible. I have now bought myself a ticket to Minnesota on a business jet, This is the aero jet services company website I use all the time as it has interesting deals. I hope that I will not fly there for anything and that these people do not turn out to be crooked because it is interesting to learn more about their kind.
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    E-FT14641 for
    Lyndon Baines Johnson
    , known as LBJ, started his professional life as a high school teacher in Texas, then as a congressional aide. He went on to serve in all four elected offices of the U.S. federal government: the House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate, the Vice President, and then as the 36th President.
    According to FTDNA. Interestingly, the upstream branch (E-Y142744) is mostly Ashkenazi Jewish (especially E-BY77657, but potentially also other subclades of E-Y142744) and South Slavic (primarily E-FT350330, especially Serbian). On the other hand there is also a second English branch and they all date back very far in time (Iron Age).




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    Lyndon Baines Johnson (E-FT14641)

    share a common paternal line ancestor (E-M35) who lived around 22,000 BCE (24,000 years ago).
    Lyndon Baines Johnson, known as LBJ, started his professional life as a high school teacher in Texas, then as a congressional aide. He went on to serve in all four elected offices of the U.S. federal government: the House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate, the Vice President, and then as the 36th President.

    Johnson was sworn in as President on Air Force One following the assassination of President Kennedy on November 22, 1963 with Mrs. Kennedy looking on in a tragic and surreal moment.
    Johnson went on to run for his own presidential term in 1964, winning handily.
    President Johnson was best known for championing and signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Acts of 1965 and 1968, and creating both Medicare and Medicaid.

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    if ftdna is aware of it enough to put it in there discover tool i say it is the final nail he
    was for sure e-v13

    B2565 Johnston Thomas C. Johnston, b. 1867 Unknown Origin E-FT14641 13 24 13 10 16-18 11 12 12 13 11 31 15 9-9 11 11 26 14 20 32 16-17-17-18 9 11 19-21 15 12 17 21 31-33 11 10 10 8 15-15 8 10 10 8 12 10 0 23-24 18 11 12 12 15 8 12 22 18 12 13 12 14 11 11 11 11 33 15 8 15 11 23 27 19 13 12 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 31 10 13 20 14 13 10 19 16 21 12 24 13 13 16 24 14 24 18 13 14 17 9 13 11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    E-FT14641 for


    According to FTDNA. Interestingly, the upstream branch (E-Y142744) is mostly Ashkenazi Jewish (especially E-BY77657, but potentially also other subclades of E-Y142744) and South Slavic (primarily E-FT350330, especially Serbian). On the other hand there is also a second English branch and they all date back very far in time (Iron Age).




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    Isn't that the line deriving from ancient Hebrews traveling the Northeastern route towards Spain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    Isn't that the line deriving from ancient Hebrews traveling the Northeastern route towards Spain?
    Doesn't look like it at first glance. E-Y142744 has one main downstream Jewish branch. I know upstream might be some Jewish members as well, but where they belong is difficult to tell. There are in any case a lot of English and Serbs in the other branches. I rather think that somewhere around Bohemia-Moravia, in a territory the branch was common - like the ancient DNA samples suggest as well, a couple of local males converted to Judaism in the Early Medieval era.

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    according to ftdna discover tool connections
    patrick was under a branch of e-v12



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patric..._Earl_of_Lucan




    Patrick Sarsfield, 1st Earl of Lucan (E-Y111022)





    Patrick Sarsfield(Irish: Pádraig Sáirseál) was a leading Irish soldier in the Jacobite army during the Williamite War in Ireland between Irish Catholic supporters of deposed King James (the Jacobites) and Protestant supporters of William III of England.
    By the end of the war Patrick largely controlled the Jacobite’s military strategy and was given the title Earl of Lucan. By 1691 they had adopted a defensive position and faced internal divisions, mainly between the “Peace Party,” who wanted to negotiate a settlement with William, and the “War Party” grouped around Sarsfield. After the Battle of Aughrim, estimated to be the bloodiest battle in the history of Ireland, the remnants of the Jacobite army regrouped at Limerick. Their position was hopeless and Patrick helped negotiate the Treaty of Limerick which ended the war. The treaty allowed the remaining troops of the Jacobite army to enter French service and about 19,000 men, including Sarsfield, chose to leave Ireland in what became known as the Flight of the Wild Geese.
    When Patrick arrived in France he became Major-General in the exile army. He fought in the Battle of Steenkerque in 1692 and was fatally wounded in the Battle of Landen in 1693. He died of his wounds three days later. Legend has it that his last words were “If this was only for Ireland.
    The detailed haplogroup of the Sarsfields was determined by Big Y testing of Tim Sarsfield, a descendant of the Sarsfields of Cork. Genetic genealogy evangelist Gerard Corcoran led the research and presented the results. The Y-DNA result showed a distant relation between the Sarsfields and other Cambro Norman families such as Fitzgerald and Roche.


    IN105122 Sarsfield Unknown Origin E-Y111022 13 23 13 11 16-17 11 12 14 13 11 30 16 9-9 11 11 25 14 20 35 13-13-17-17 10 11 19-24 17 12 16 17 36-38 12 10 10 8 15-17 8 11 11 8 11 10 0 22-22 18 11 12 12 17 7 11 24 18 12 13 11 13 11 11 11 11 36 15 8 15 11 23 27 17 13 12 12 11 12 9 11 11 10 11 13 32 11 13 19 16 13 11 19 16 19 13 23 14 13 16 24 15 21 18 13 15 17 9 11 11


    his branch in yfull

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    according to ftdna ( discover tool)
    The Harfush dynasty
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harfush_dynasty
    fall on haplogroup e-v22 branch ( more specifically e-by172871)


    The Harfush dynasty (Arabic: آل حرفوش) was a dynasty from the Khuza'a tribe that helped in the conquest of Syria under the reign of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). The dynasty ruled parts of Syria and Lebanon for centuries until its dissolution by the Ottoman empire in 1865 CE.
    The haplogroup was determined by Big Y testing of Mr. Kinan Al Harfush Alkhuzai and confirmed by Mr. Faisal Alhashash.

    Harfush dynasty
    1483 - 1865 CE







    Emir Khanjar Harfoush, Emir of Baalbek (1850)



    Emir Alli Harfush, Sheik of a small village near Baalbek (1894)

    Emir Ahmad Harfouche (1935)



    the haplotype :

    BP18946 ذرية الأمير اسماعيل الحرفوشي الخزاعي Syrian Arab Republic E-BY172871 13 23 14 10 18-19 11 12 13 13 11 30 16 9-9 11 11 25 14 20 31 16-16-16-17 10 12 19-22 15 11 18 18 35-37 12 10 10 9 15-15 8 11 10 8 13 11 0 22-23 19 11 12 12 15


    the branch in yfull :
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y156521/
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    He doesn't look very Saudi like at all, unlike some of the Hashemites, for example. He would easily pass as European, imo.

    Saudi King Faisal:


    The Hashemites:


    Funny how the current half-English king looks like a clone of his father, King Hussein, just with bleached, English-fair skin. Those are strong genes. :)

    Imo, some of the Hashemites are not "stereotypically" Saudi, while some are...

    Faisal I of Iraq:




    Abdullah I of Jordan:


    His son King Talal in the pin-striped suit:


    The founder of them all: Sharif Husayn of Mecca:


    His son Faisal looked very much like him, Abdullah not so much.

    Cavalli-Sforza wrote in his book on drift in Northern Italy that when two different groups of people encounter one another, and there is constant mixing, but no new influx of genes, eventually you can get almost pure phenotypes of the two original groups even in one family. Perhaps that's part of what goes on with Saudis?

    That said, I lived pretty near the U.N., and saw a lot of Saudis in their robes, and they didn't at all look like Sharif Husayn or his son Faisal, but were tall, hefty, broad faced men who looked like this:


    Maybe it's more SSA as well as more Caucasus, whereas the other is more Neolithic? Just a speculation.

    The only one I remember who broke that mold was the Minister to the U.S. under Obama, I think.
    He couls be French or Italian.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hunyadi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Corvinus


    The Hunyadi family is one of the most influential families in the history of Central Europe in the 14th–16thcenturies. The family’s prestige was established by Johannes Hunyadi, a Turk-beater who rose to the position ofgovernor of the Kingdom of Hungary. His second son, Matthias Hunyadi, became the elected ruler of the Kingdomof Hungary in 1458
    . The Hunyadi family had unknown origin. Moreover, Matthias failed to found a dynastybecause of lacking a legitimate heir and his illegitimate son Johannes Corvinus was unable to obtain the crown.His grandson, Christophorus Corvinus, died in childhood, thus the direct male line of the family ended.In the framework of on interdisciplinary research, we have determined the whole genome sequences ofJohannes Corvinus and Christophorus Corvinus by next-generation sequencing technology. Both of them carriedthe Y-chromosome haplogroup is E1b1b1a1b1a6a1c ~, which is widespread in Eurasia. The father-son relationship was verified using the classical STR method and whole genome data. Christophorus Corvinus belongs tothe rare, sporadically occurring T2c1þ146 mitochondrial haplogroup, most frequent around the Mediterranean,while his father belongs to the T2b mitochondrial haplogroup, widespread in Eurasia, both are consistent with theknown origin of the mothers. Archaeogenomic analysis indicated that the Corvinus had an ancient Europeangenome composition.Based on the reported genetic data, it will be possible to identify all the other Hunyadi family member, whoseonly known grave site is known, but who are resting assorted with several other skeleto







    there specific branch under e-v13:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-PH1173/


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    Makes sense for the land of LBK, I guess.

    I have to say it: He has an Italian profile, by way of the combination of EEF and some steppe. Could be one of my relatives. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Makes sense for the land of LBK, I guess.

    I have to say it: He has an Italian profile, by way of the combination of EEF and some steppe. Could be one of my relatives. :)

    yes cool for the e-v13's out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hunyadi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Corvinus


    The Hunyadi family is one of the most influential families in the history of Central Europe in the 14th–16thcenturies. The family’s prestige was established by Johannes Hunyadi, a Turk-beater who rose to the position ofgovernor of the Kingdom of Hungary. His second son, Matthias Hunyadi, became the elected ruler of the Kingdomof Hungary in 1458
    . The Hunyadi family had unknown origin. Moreover, Matthias failed to found a dynastybecause of lacking a legitimate heir and his illegitimate son Johannes Corvinus was unable to obtain the crown.His grandson, Christophorus Corvinus, died in childhood, thus the direct male line of the family ended.In the framework of on interdisciplinary research, we have determined the whole genome sequences ofJohannes Corvinus and Christophorus Corvinus by next-generation sequencing technology. Both of them carriedthe Y-chromosome haplogroup is E1b1b1a1b1a6a1c ~, which is widespread in Eurasia. The father-son relationship was verified using the classical STR method and whole genome data. Christophorus Corvinus belongs tothe rare, sporadically occurring T2c1þ146 mitochondrial haplogroup, most frequent around the Mediterranean,while his father belongs to the T2b mitochondrial haplogroup, widespread in Eurasia, both are consistent with theknown origin of the mothers. Archaeogenomic analysis indicated that the Corvinus had an ancient Europeangenome composition.Based on the reported genetic data, it will be possible to identify all the other Hunyadi family member, whoseonly known grave site is known, but who are resting assorted with several other skeleto







    there specific branch under e-v13:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-PH1173/


    source:

    https://www.cell.com/heliyon/fulltex...440(22)03019-5
    Its interesting because I think that Hunyadi's was of Turkic descent and more probably they have R1a-R1b or Central Asian J2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmak View Post
    Its interesting because I think that Hunyadi's was of Turkic descent and more probably they have R1a-R1b or Central Asian J2.
    That's why they tested and this is what you got, any speculation about something else can be largely disregarded.

    He is said to have been of Vlach origin or alternatively Hungarian:

    John's father, Voyk and Voyk's four kinsmen, including John himself.[4] According to the document, John's father served in the royal household as a "court knight" at that time, suggesting that he was descended from a respected family.[5][6] Two 15th-century chroniclersJohannes de Thurocz and Antonio Bonfiniwrite that Voyk had moved from Wallachia to Hungary upon King Sigismund's initiative.[3][7] Lszl Makkai, Malcolm Hebron, Pl Engel and other scholars accept the two chroniclers' report of the Wallachian origin of John Hunyadi's father.[5][8][9][10] In contrast with them, Ioan-Aurel Pop says that Voyk was a native of the wider region of Hunyad Castle.[11] Antonio Bonfini was the first chronicler to have made a passing remark of an alternative story of John Hunyadi's parentage, soon stating that it was just a "tasteless tale" fabricated by Hunyadi's opponent, Ulrich II, Count of Celje.[12][13] According to this anecdote, John was actually not Voyk's child, but King Sigismund's illegitimate son.[12][14] The story became especially popular during the reign of John Hunyadi's son, Matthias Corvinus who erected a statue for King Sigismund in Buda.[15] The 16th-century chronicler Gspr Heltai repeated and further developed the tale, but modern scholarsfor instance, Cartledge, and Kubinyiregard it as an unverifiable gossip.[14][13] Hunyadi's popularity among the peoples of the Balkan Peninsula give rise to further legends of his royal parentage.[16][2]
    The identification of John Hunyadi's mother is even less certain.[13][15] In connection with King Sigismund's supposed parentage, both Bonfini and Heltai say that she was the daughter of a rich boyar, or nobleman, whose estates were located at Morzsina (present-day Margina, Romania).[13][15] Pop proposes that she was called Elisabeth.[11] According to historian Lszl Makkai, John Hunyadi's mother was a member of the Muzsina (or Mușina) kenez family from Demsus (Densuș, Romania), but Pop refuses the identification of the Morzsina and Muzsina families.[11][17]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hunyadi

    So a Vlach lineage is the most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    That's why they tested and this is what you got, any speculation about something else can be largely disregarded.

    He is said to have been of Vlach origin or alternatively Hungarian:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hunyadi

    So a Vlach lineage is the most likely.
    That's right because he has balkanic clade.

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    from ftdna discover tool :
    George Kourounis belonged to E-L793

    George Kourounis is a Greek-Canadian global explorer, adventurer, and storm chaser who presents the TV series Angry Planet. He also co-hosted episodes of the TV series Storm Hunters.
    He specializes in documenting extreme weather, climate change, and worldwide natural disasters, such as tornadoes, hurricanes, blizzards, floods, lightning, forest fires, and erupting volcanoes.
    George has a special interest in volcanoes, and in 2006, he married his wife Michelle on top of an erupting volcano in Tanna Island, Vanuatu. In 2013, he was the first person to set foot at the bottom of the “Doorway To Hell” gas crater in Darvaza, Turkmenistan.




    in action



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Kourounis


    this branch in yfull:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-L793/
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    It seems that my 13 top match on MTA is a famous E1b1b1




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