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    What's the current theory on dog domestication?



    Do we know where it happened and how dogs spread?

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    See:
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...+domestication

    You can also just google it; there are lots of papers.


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    This seems like a good paper.

    https://www.scienceintheclassroom.or...-domestication

    -Domesticated dogs in Europe 15000 ybp (domesticated by WHG?)
    -Domesticated dogs in asia 14000 ybp (domesticated by ANE? or by ENA? the oldest domestication center seems to be near Lake Baikal)
    -asian dogs move into Europe 14000-6400 ybp (movement of ANE?) and replace European dogs to a large degree
    -Some of the east asian breeds like huskies seem admixed with West Eurasian dogs. I read in Kuzmina and Mallory's The Origin of the Indo-Iranians that Andronovo had a small husky type dog. I always assumed they got it from some Paleo-Siberian people but I wonder if they got it from their Fataynovo-Abashevo ancestors in Europe in light of this.

    Some other papers/articles
    -https://www.pnas.org/content/109/23/8878

    -https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/the-origins-of-dogs (argues domesticated dogs present in Goyet 36000 ybp)

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    The study yielded another important finding: the mitochondrial DNA analyses of modern and ancient dogs showed that, while most of the ancient European specimens belonged to haplogroup C (60%) or D (20%), the majority of modern-day ones are of haplogroups A (64%) and B (22%), both of Asian origin, pointing to a migration from Asia to Europe.

    What about the paternal lineages?
    https://news.cnrs.fr/articles/rethin...origin-of-dogs

    -https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2015/12/28/the-33000-year-old-origin-story-of-mans-best-friend.html
    This paper seems political. I haven't seen anything that mentions a dog domestication 33000 ybp in SE Asia with no independent domestication in Europe and somehow the SE Asian dogs being brought to Europe.

    On a related not how do things like this come out of universities?
    http://veparchaeology.org/ch5/ch5q07-doc02.html
    Horses domesticated in MENA? Upper Mesopotamia and NW Iran not part of the Neolithic domestication event but North Africa and parts of SSA are? No pig domestication in West Asia?

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    My father's dog Sultan would have had a wolf paternal lineage; his paternal grandfather was a German shepherd-wolf dog with the wolf as the father, but sadly he died in 2013 before dog DNA tests arose. His mother was a Labrador, so he had the webbed feet, slow metabolism, and love of me common with the breed.

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    Eupedia says dogs were domesticated in the the Altai? Would that be by ANE or ENA like people? And this strain of domestication seems to account for most modern dogs?

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