Ricardo
Elite member
- Messages
- 43
- Reaction score
- 14
- Points
- 8
- Ethnic group
- Brazilian Portuguese Founder
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- J1-FGC6035
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H1ao1
What we do have:
1- There were two completely different populations. One in the Steppe (EHG_like) and another in the South (CHG_Near_Eastern_Iranian_like). They had developed and they had been for thousands of years unadmixed distant and different ancestral populations with few contacts.
2 - North of the Caucasus there is an open plain, the Southern Don River and the Southern Volga River are very close in Stalingrad, (Volgograd), it's an open space, no natural barriers.
3 - The Southern Iranian population moved and admixed in the North and created a new, completely different population that later expanded in several directions.
4 - Just like any other new Bronze Age or Neolithic admixture that new population can be easily investigated with samples from the event or process of admixture and before the admixture addition.
5 - If you wrongly think the Southern population (CHG_Near_Esatern_Iranian) were already in the North of the Caucasus without "The Arrival" and the big movement from the South you can't explain the movement. It was not a slow, long and gradual change and no CHG population lived North of the Caucasus for a long time without admixing with the former Steppe EHG population living there. No different populations lived side by side North of the Caucasus, in the Southern Steppe for thousands of years, but a relatively fast and rapid movement of some centuries, a Southern group movement to the North that changed forever the genetic composition of the Steppe and created a new Mestizo population there full of hybrid vigour with a new Indo-European Creole language, a process observed in many places and continents.
6 - People should know when they are conquered and new changes happened in the Steppe because the Southern Iranian populations moved into the North and changed everything, the genomes changed, the social and political organization changed, the economy, agriculture, metals changed, the language changed, they created new frontiers of expansion and new movement from the big admixture happened there.
7 - New data to confirm and detail what we already know.
8 - The same original haplogroups are still living in the Caspian Sea Shores just like Iranian Y-DNA J1 branches found in the first PIE groups, Khvalysnk, Afanasievo, BMAC and Northern Iran.
1- There were two completely different populations. One in the Steppe (EHG_like) and another in the South (CHG_Near_Eastern_Iranian_like). They had developed and they had been for thousands of years unadmixed distant and different ancestral populations with few contacts.
2 - North of the Caucasus there is an open plain, the Southern Don River and the Southern Volga River are very close in Stalingrad, (Volgograd), it's an open space, no natural barriers.
3 - The Southern Iranian population moved and admixed in the North and created a new, completely different population that later expanded in several directions.
4 - Just like any other new Bronze Age or Neolithic admixture that new population can be easily investigated with samples from the event or process of admixture and before the admixture addition.
5 - If you wrongly think the Southern population (CHG_Near_Esatern_Iranian) were already in the North of the Caucasus without "The Arrival" and the big movement from the South you can't explain the movement. It was not a slow, long and gradual change and no CHG population lived North of the Caucasus for a long time without admixing with the former Steppe EHG population living there. No different populations lived side by side North of the Caucasus, in the Southern Steppe for thousands of years, but a relatively fast and rapid movement of some centuries, a Southern group movement to the North that changed forever the genetic composition of the Steppe and created a new Mestizo population there full of hybrid vigour with a new Indo-European Creole language, a process observed in many places and continents.
6 - People should know when they are conquered and new changes happened in the Steppe because the Southern Iranian populations moved into the North and changed everything, the genomes changed, the social and political organization changed, the economy, agriculture, metals changed, the language changed, they created new frontiers of expansion and new movement from the big admixture happened there.
7 - New data to confirm and detail what we already know.
8 - The same original haplogroups are still living in the Caspian Sea Shores just like Iranian Y-DNA J1 branches found in the first PIE groups, Khvalysnk, Afanasievo, BMAC and Northern Iran.