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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    given that carcalla and geta father septimus was punic lybian paternally ( his mother was italian though)
    there is this option for there y haplogroups to be : j1, e-m81, e-v65
    with the bigest chances for e-m81 ....
    it is cool that you belong to e-m81 from jordan ....


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    If they were marked as Syrian they would be Neolithic. E-M18 is likely from Natufian farmers.
    This is a real adaptation of the leaders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I don't know where their noses "come from" in terms of lineage. I just meant that it doesn't look like Trump has that kind of nose, i.e. high nose bridge so it's almost a straight line from forehead to nose, or Roman "bump" half way down.



    As a young man I see a resemblance more to Eric than Donald Jr. except for the pigmentation. The nose looks "thicker" around the bridge, don't you think? Maybe he had it altered?



    His parents:


    It looks like the Roman "bump" came from Trump's father. Nice looking man; better looking than his son at the same time of life.

    It's hard to tell, but I don't think either of the sons got the nose from Ivana.

    That woman's features are maybe Armenian even though she is registered as being a C Republic citizen. Clearly, the hair is bleached.


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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleyes2 View Post
    That woman's features are maybe Armenian even though she is registered as being a C Republic citizen. Clearly, the hair is bleached.

    Everybody with a nose that has a tip that turns down is Near Eastern?

    She doesn't look like any Armenian I've ever seen. Look at pictures of her as she got older. She couldn't be more Slavic in type.

    Go through the whole thread. Lots of what people used to call Near Eastern noses sprinkled throughout Europe, even if it isn't the dominant shape for their country.

    Oh, and you made some of the Emperors too dark. Verus was specifically described by contemporaries as having "natural" blonde hair and blue eyes, and yes, that would have been possible among the ancient Romans, even if uncommon. No reason for Marcus Aurelius to be so dark either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Everybody with a nose that has a tip that turns down is Near Eastern?

    She doesn't look like any Armenian I've ever seen. Look at pictures of her as she got older. She couldn't be more Slavic in type.

    Go through the whole thread. Lots of what people used to call Near Eastern noses sprinkled throughout Europe, even if it isn't the dominant shape for their country.

    Oh, and you made some of the Emperors too dark. Verus was specifically described by contemporaries as having "natural" blonde hair and blue eyes, and yes, that would have been possible among the ancient Romans, even if uncommon. No reason for Marcus Aurelius to be so dark either.

    Almost everybody on this topic has some sort of personal agenda.
    I know people from the C Republic and who have been there physically her look isn't typical at all. C Republic's are a East Germanics people, even Poles are more Slavic. Her look is something Semitic or whatever this is more typical though.

    https://www.beautiful-women-pedia.co...ra-nemcova.jpg


    That was not my picture of the Romans, someone else made it I just knew the Roman elite were of a Mediterranean subset nothing ''British'' or blonde looking about the elite at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleyes2 View Post
    I know people from the C Republic and who have been there physically her look isn't typical at all. C Republic's are a East Germanics people, even Poles are more Slavic. Her look is something Semitic or whatever this is more typical though.

    https://www.beautiful-women-pedia.co...ra-nemcova.jpg


    That was not my picture of the Romans, someone else made it I just knew the Roman elite were of a Mediterranean subset nothing ''British'' or blonde looking about the elite at all.


    Only agree with you
    On this the elite were not scandinavian looking
    More likely med features...
    All those are busts....
    No one know how they realy looked like...
    But simple logic and geography point to med look

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    Only agree with you
    On this the elite were not scandinavian looking
    More likely med features...
    All those are busts....
    No one know how they realy looked like...
    But simple logic and geography point to med look
    Agreed, nothing British about them at all they were from a Mediterranean subset. Probably a mixture of Alpines and Dinarics.

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    Malenia Trump is certainly 100 percent Slavic though

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleyes2 View Post
    I know people from the C Republic and who have been there physically her look isn't typical at all. C Republic's are a East Germanics people, even Poles are more Slavic. Her look is something Semitic or whatever this is more typical though.

    https://www.beautiful-women-pedia.co...ra-nemcova.jpg


    That was not my picture of the Romans, someone else made it I just knew the Roman elite were of a Mediterranean subset nothing ''British'' or blonde looking about the elite at all.
    How could I have missed how Semitic looking she is?



    Petra Nemcova in real life, real hair, nose not photoshopped so half of it is gone. Are you a t-roll?


    I could do the same with Bianca Balti





    Maybe we should all just stick to politicians.

    Mediterranean the early Romans were; that doesn't mean they were all dark.

    Claudio Marchisio-half southern Italian, btw. Coloring is perhaps "Augustus" like...


    Ignazio Abate


    Actually "blonde" Italian man...a cousin. Perhaps a Verus type coloring.


    You can certainly find the same thing among Spaniards.

    Fine, you didn't make it. The point remains. Where you have contemporary accounts and you DON'T use them you have an agenda. Where you don't have contemporary accounts and you make it up according to your agenda it's unreliable.

    Just play it straight, everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    How could I have missed how Semitic looking she is?



    Petra Nemcova had half her nose chopped off. She's typical of nowhere. Posting her would be like my posting Bianca Balti and saying she's the typical Italian woman. Please...





    Mediterranean the early Romans were; that doesn't mean they were all dark.

    Claudio Marchisio-half southern Italian, btw. Coloring is perhaps "Augustus" like...


    Ignazio Abate


    Actually "blonde" Italian man...a cousin. Perhaps a Verus type coloring.


    You can certainly find the same thing among Spaniards.

    Fine, you didn't make it. The point remains. Where you have contemporary accounts and you DON'T use them you have an agenda. Where you don't have contemporary accounts and you make it up according to your agenda it's unreliable.

    Just play it straight, everybody.
    They both got plastic surgery common among Ashkenazis I guess. Her daughter did too who looks similarly Khazarian




    Malenia Trump looks typically Slavic / Slovenian just compare the two eyes and nose shape



    Without airbrushed glossy magazine covers. The above link explained how they ''Christianize'' their names



    Not my contemporary accounts. Some people have different opinions, it's called life. I find it easier to believe that the elite of Roman generals were Mediterranean and didn't have a uniform of blonde hair and blue eyes and were British looking.

    This isn't about the percentage of modern Italians with blonde hair and blue eyes which proves nothing apart from the fact that some South Europeans can have blonde hair and blue eyes.

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    honestly i think totti has a roman look
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Totti



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    angela you might have a point you could be southern european with light hair and eyes
    abate has realy a roman face and his blond hair .....
    do roman sources say all emperors were blond or only verus ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    honestly i think totti has a roman look
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Totti
    I think magazines and celeb pics airbrush and white wash people, their different ethnic groups and their physical traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    honestly i think totti has a roman look
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Totti



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    angela you might have a point you could be southern european with light hair and eyes
    abate has realy a roman face and his blond hair .....
    do roman sources say all emperors were blond or only verus ?
    The only word for "natural" "real" blonde that the contemporaries used was for Verus.

    A few others were described with a word meaning "fairish", light brown/dark blonde, including Augustus. It's all detailed in the site Pax posted upthread, along with who among the contemporaries of these people said it and about which emperors.

    We also know that most of the Republican inhabitants of Rome were genetically between northern Italians and Spaniards so obviously just from that, logically, some of these Republicans were "fair haired and eyed". Not, seemingly, the majority. It's always the unusual which is mentioned, not the common.

    We also have data from these Republicans.

    He's just another t-roll; this time an anti-Semitic one.

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    angleeyes2, you missed the real Petra. :)



    Yes, every person in eastern Europe with a downward pointing tip is a secret Jew.

    Goodbye to another anti-Semitic Slavicist t-roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    The only word for "natural" "real" blonde that the contemporaries used was for Verus.

    A few others were described with a word meaning "fairish", light brown/dark blonde, including Augustus. It's all detailed in the site Pax posted upthread, along with who among the contemporaries of these people said it and about which emperors.

    We also know that most of the Republican inhabitants of Rome were genetically between northern Italians and Spaniards so obviously just from that, logically, some of these Republicans were "fair haired and eyed". Not, seemingly, the majority. It's always the unusual which is mentioned, not the common.

    We also have data from these Republicans.

    He's just another t-roll; this time an anti-Semitic one.

    you think he is an apricity refugge ?

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    [QUOTE=Angela;610922]angleeyes2, you missed the real Petra. :)



    Yes, every person in eastern Europe with a downward pointing tip is a secret Jew.

    Goodbye to another anti-Semitic Slavicist t-roll.
    Strangely, we share the same face shape, forehead and chin. Even the eyes are not dissimilar, but hers are too close together. Isn't that supposed to be a "Semitic" or Near Eastern trait? :) Ditto for the full lipped mouth. I thought Northern Europeans were supposed to have small mouths. That's' what they considered beautiful for centuries, along with an oval face. You people don't read enough history.

    Fwiw, I don't think that's a picture of an outstandingly beautiful woman. I do envy her mouth, though.

    More than anything else models are chosen for their weird and rare bodies, often with the breasts then augmented. In the industry there were always a lot of rumors that some of them have weird chromosomal patterns in terms of x and y. Maybe one of the reasons so many never have children.. In recent decades they also deliberately DON'T choose women who have "perfect", "harmonious" faces. They say it's because they're more "interesting". I just think they're uglier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Strangely, we share the same face shape, forehead and chin. Even the eyes are not dissimilar, but hers are too close together. Isn't that supposed to be a "Semitic" or Near Eastern trait? :)

    Fwiw, I don't think that's a picture of an outstandingly beautiful woman.

    i think she is pretty
    not miss universe but defiently pretty
    i was i czech republik with my brothers few years ago
    woman there are indeed there pretty generally speaking
    and they drink to much bear
    like i drink water

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    i think she is pretty
    not miss universe but defiently pretty
    i was i czech republik with my brothers few years ago
    woman there are indeed there pretty generally speaking
    and they drink to much bear
    like i drink water
    Can you blame them? Their beer is on another level. Becherovka is nice as well if you managed to try.

    On another note... Everyone says Czech women are beautiful... and maybe it is a thing of people hyping up something too much so when you see it for yourself you feel let down... but imo Czech women despite being pretty on average have got nothing on... say for example Bulgarian women :).

    Also... Why does everything have to fall as either Semite phenotype or Nordic phenotype (?)... there is a whole rainbow in between. I know some Swedish women who after a couple of weeks on a Southern European vacation get a gorgeous tan and look really similar to the minor, light Balkan phenotype (light eyes, blonde/fair hair). I have to admit they are taller on average tho, and with sharper features/less round face/ more pronounced jaws.

    My point is that even these supposedly really light phenotype Nordic people after a couple of weeks of proper tanning (not burning up a skin rash) look "similar" to Southern Europeans in skin tone. And their eye/hair phenotype is not absent from Southern Europe to begin with. Personally only their morphology gives them away in Southern Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archetype0ne View Post
    Can you blame them? Their beer is on another level. Becherovka is nice as well if you managed to try.

    On another note... Everyone says Czech women are beautiful... and maybe it is a thing of people hyping up something too much so when you see it for yourself you feel let down... but imo Czech women despite being pretty on average have got nothing on... say for example Bulgarian women :).

    Also... Why does everything have to fall as either Semite phenotype or Nordic phenotype (?)... there is a whole rainbow in between. I know some Swedish women who after a couple of weeks on a Southern European vacation get a gorgeous tan and look really similar to the minor, light Balkan phenotype (light eyes, blonde/fair hair). I have to admit they are taller on average tho, and with sharper features/less round face/ more pronounced jaws.

    My point is that even these supposedly really light phenotype Nordic people after a couple of weeks of proper tanning (not burning up a skin rash) look "similar" to Southern Europeans in skin tone. And their eye/hair phenotype is not absent from Southern Europe to begin with. Personally only their morphology gives them away in Southern Europe.

    agree on bulgarian woman was in sofia
    very pretty indeed
    i personally less attracted to woman with sharp features
    pronounced jaw ( dolf lundgren jaw )
    but it is a matter of taste
    on skin tone agree many sweeds can get tan like southern europeans ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    i think she is pretty
    not miss universe but defiently pretty
    i was i czech republik with my brothers few years ago
    woman there are indeed there pretty generally speaking
    and they drink to much bear
    like i drink water
    We don't disagree; attractive, pretty, but not classically beautiful or just drop dead gorgeous whether "classical looking or not". A lot of models and actresses used to be classically beautiful.


    Candid shot of a young Elizabeth Taylor...


    Marilyn Monroe:

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    angleeyes2, you missed the real Petra. :)



    Yes, every person in eastern Europe with a downward pointing tip is a secret Jew.

    Goodbye to another anti-Semitic Slavicist t-roll.
    Strangely, we share the same face shape, forehead and chin. Even the eyes are not dissimilar, but hers are too close together. Isn't that supposed to be a "Semitic" or Near Eastern trait? :) Ditto for the full lipped mouth. I thought Northern Europeans were supposed to have small mouths. That's' what they considered beautiful for centuries, along with an oval face. You people don't read enough history.

    Fwiw, I don't think that's a picture of an outstandingly beautiful woman. I do envy her mouth, though.

    More than anything else models are chosen for their weird and rare bodies, often with the breasts then augmented. In the industry there were always a lot of rumors that some of them have weird chromosomal patterns in terms of x and y. Maybe one of the reasons so many never have children.. In recent decades they also deliberately DON'T choose women who have "perfect", "harmonious" faces. They say it's because they're more "interesting". I just think they're uglier.

    she have oval face in the picture you posted
    (oval type the perfect for woman less perfect for man i have oval face )
    her jaw look like the clssical slavic one in this photo
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra_...nes_2018_2.jpg

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    Why do you think it's a particularly Slavic trait? I'd say it's northern European but can show up in other groups.

    Grace Kelly: stunningly beautiful in her youth, and still lovely in middle age, but she looks like she could crack walnuts with those jaws. :)




    She was half German for what it's worth.

    I'm not saying this to be mean or catty. I have a pretty strong jaw too.

    Gisele Buendchen



    Honestly, in a lot of her pictures I don't even think she looks pretty.

    It's all the big international models nowadays, though, nothing particular to one ethnicity.

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    i dont know
    my mother also have this jaw and she probably got from her mom
    so i thought it is was slavic trait ....
    gisele Buendchen is maybe not classical beauty but she is hot
    she is german brazilian from south brazil

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleyes2 View Post
    It is clear from the article posted back thread that the color of their hair and eyes is unknown, with the exception of 4 emperors.

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