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    How factual, reliable and unbiased are the main news websites and TV channels?



    The site Media Bias/Fact Check rates news media for their factual reporting and political bias. There are thousands of sites rated, but I thought it would be interesting to give a concise summary of the main English-language news websites and TV channels. I am going to classify them by country.

    United Kingdom

    In 2016, in my article Who reads which newspaper in Britain? I explained the political bias and social class associated with the major British newspapers.

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    BBC News High Left-center
    Daily Express Mixed Right
    Daily Mail Low Right
    Daily Mirror Mixed Left-center
    Daily Star Mixed Right-center
    Daily Telegraph Mixed Right
    London Evening Standard High Right-center
    Financial Times High Least biased
    Sky News High Least biased
    The Economist High Least biased
    The Guardian Mixed Left-center
    The Independent Mixed Left-center
    The Sun Mixed Right
    The Times High Right-center


    United States

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    ABC High Left-center
    Associated Press Very high Least biased
    CBS High Left-center
    CNN Mixed Left
    Fox News Mixed Right
    The Huffington Post Mixed Left
    The Los Angeles Times High Left-center
    New York Post Mixed Right-center
    The New York Times High Left-center
    NBC News High Left-center
    Newsweek Mixed Left
    NPR Very high Left-center
    Politico High Least biased
    Reuters Very high Least biased
    Time Magazine High Left-center
    USA Today High Left-center
    Washington Post High Left-center
    Yahoo News High Left-center


    Canada

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    CBS High Left-center
    CTV High Least biased
    Financial Post Mostly factual Right-center
    The Globe and Mail High Right-center
    Global News High Left-center
    National Post High Right-center
    Toronto Star High Left-center
    Toronto Sun Mostly factual Right


    Australia

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    9 News High Right-center
    ABC High Left-center
    The Age High Left-center
    The Australian Mixed Right-center
    Daily Telegraph Mixed Right
    The Herald Sun Mostly factual Right-center
    News.com.au Mostly factual Right-center
    The Sydney Morning Herald High Left-center


    News in English from non-English-speaking countries

    News media Country Factual reporting Political bias
    Al Jazeera Qatar Mixed Left-center
    ANSA Italy High Least biased
    Asahi Shimbun Japan High Left-center
    CCTV International China Mixed Left-center
    Deutsche Welle (DW News) Germany High Left-center
    El Pais Spain High Left-center
    Euronews France High Least biased
    EU Observer Belgium High Left-center
    France 24 France High Least biased
    Japan Times Japan High Least biased
    Japan Today Japan High Left-center
    The Local Sweden High Left-center
    Mainichi Shimbun Japan High Left-center
    NHK World Japan High Left-center
    Russia Today (RT News) Russia Very low Right-center
    Spiegel Online Germany High Left-center
    South China Morning Post China Mixed Left-center
    Xinhua News China Mixed Left-center
    Yomiuri Shimbun Japan High Right-center
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    Maciamo, I don't know why I should accept the conclusions of some armchair pundit.

    "The Columbia Journalism Review describes Media Bias/Fact Check as an amateur attempt at categorizing media bias and Van Zandt as an "armchair media analyst."[3] The Poynter Institute notes, "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific."[5]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check

    Plus, anyone who thinks the New York Times and NPR are unbiased has very strange standards, imo.

    These judgments are inherently subjective, again, imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Maciamo, I don't know why I should accept the conclusions of some armchair pundit.

    "The Columbia Journalism Review describes Media Bias/Fact Check as an amateur attempt at categorizing media bias and Van Zandt as an "armchair media analyst."[3] The Poynter Institute notes, "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific."[5]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Bias/Fact_Check

    Plus, anyone who thinks the New York Times and NPR are unbiased has very strange standards, imo.

    These judgments are inherently subjective, again, imo.
    I thought analysts field work is on the armchair?

    I know the idiom btw... it's just not the best word choice for the profession.
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    I didn't know that Media Bias/Fact Check was amateurish. Sorry about that. Here are other attempts at classifications of news websites across the political spectrum.

    First, the British Government did a survey on YouGov asking British people what they thought of the political biases of British newspapers.



    And this sorted by the actual political party for which the readers voted at the last election.





    Next is a series of charts are from Pew Research's articles on Political Polarization in the U.S.













    Here is a chart is from AllSides.com, a website that attributes political bias and let users provide feedback on whether they agree or not with their attributions.





    AdFontesMedia is another site that rates news sites on their political bias as well as factual reliability. They made the next two charts.







    This one is about the quality of science news reporting. It was was made by the American Council of Science and Health and Real Clear Science.


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    Glad to see that most of my favorite sources are non-partisan, least biased. AP, Reuters for general news mainly. I use WSJ, Bloomberg mainly for business/economics news, and for the laymen it is good enough, but if you are looking to trade on their news beware... I would not recommend it, won't go in depth as to why not.

    Surprised that MIT TR is rated so low on "compelling to read"? I absolutely love it.

    Edit: Also, INFOWARS is fun to watch, who needs the Onion when you can have this as (un/intentional?) satire. Haven't followed since they got de-platformed (for good reason, some things should not be even sarcastically implied, Sandy Hook denial was just despicable).

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    From the various sources above, it seems that Media Bias/Fact Check was right about the political bias of British news sites. What is odd is that AllSides consider The Economist as slightly leftist, when if anything they are very slightly on the right of the center.

    In the USA, we have:

    - CNN, MSCBC, Huffington Post, Newsweek and Time Magazine on the left.

    - ABC, Politico, The New York Times and the Washington Post are center to center-left.

    - AP, NPR and Reuters are in the middle (least biased).

    - The New York Post is either listed as center-right or very much on the right.

    - Fox News and Breibart are on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    From the various sources above, it seems that Media Bias/Fact Check was right about the political bias of British news sites. What is odd is that AllSides consider The Economist as slightly leftist, when if anything they are very slightly on the right of the center.

    In the USA, we have:

    - CNN, MSCBC, Huffington Post, Newsweek and Time Magazine on the left.

    - ABC, Politico, The New York Times and the Washington Post are center to center-left.

    - AP, NPR and Reuters are in the middle (least biased).

    - The New York Post is either listed as center-right or very much on the right.

    - Fox News and Breibart are on the right.
    And in Europe Maciamo?

    I can add for the Netherlands:

    I. Newspapers:
    - De Telegraaf, right
    - Algemeen Dagblad center-right
    - De Volkskrant, center-left
    - NRC- Handelsblad, center-liberal
    - Trouw, center, christian
    - Het Parool (mostly Amsterdam), center-left
    - Nederlands Dagblad, christian-reformed
    - Reformatorisch Dagblad, reformed-pietistic

    II. News Magazines
    - Elsevier, right
    - Vrij Nederland, center left
    - Groene Amsterdammer, libertarian
    - HP/De Tijd, center

    May be contra to the dominant view about the Netherlands are the biggest newspaper (De Telegraaf) and the biggest Newsmagazine (Elsevier) without doubt right wing. You see also a quite big shot of christian newspapers (calvinistic). There is a liberal-libertarian influence (NRC, Groene Amsterdammer). Newsmagazine Vrij Nederland and Newspaper Het Parool are rooted in the resistance in ww2 and have a social-democratic kind of signature. The story of the newspaper The Volkskrant is most remarkable. It was traditional the newspaper of the Roman-Catholics (Southern Netherlands) but due to the counter culture in the sixties it shifted definitely to the left, now it's kind of center-left.

    Personally I read Elsevier, Groene Amsterdammer, de Volkskrant and a regional newspaper called Dagblad van het Noorden. In the earlier days also Vrij Nederland.

    Who can add for other countries?

    I have read long time the newsmagazine Der Spiegel, kind of center -left (according to the old publisher 'when doubt: left') and Die Zeit kind of liberal-highly academic. Both centered in Hamburg, Germany.

    Can others add???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    The site Media Bias/Fact Check rates news media for their factual reporting and political bias. There are thousands of sites rated, but I thought it would be interesting to give a concise summary of the main English-language news websites and TV channels. I am going to classify them by country.

    United Kingdom

    In 2016, in my article Who reads which newspaper in Britain? I explained the political bias and social class associated with the major British newspapers.

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    BBC News High Left-center
    Daily Express Mixed Right
    Daily Mail Low Right
    Daily Mirror Mixed Left-center
    Daily Star Mixed Right-center
    Daily Telegraph Mixed Right
    London Evening Standard High Right-center
    Financial Times High Least biased
    Sky News High Least biased
    The Economist High Least biased
    The Guardian Mixed Left-center
    The Independent Mixed Left-center
    The Sun Mixed Right
    The Times High Right-center


    United States

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    ABC High Left-center
    Associated Press Very high Least biased
    CBS High Left-center
    CNN Mixed Left
    Fox News Mixed Right
    The Huffington Post Mixed Left
    The Los Angeles Times High Left-center
    New York Post Mixed Right-center
    The New York Times High Left-center
    NBC News High Left-center
    Newsweek Mixed Left
    NPR Very high Left-center
    Politico High Least biased
    Reuters Very high Least biased
    Time Magazine High Left-center
    USA Today High Left-center
    Washington Post High Left-center
    Yahoo News High Left-center


    Canada

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    CBS High Left-center
    CTV High Least biased
    Financial Post Mostly factual Right-center
    The Globe and Mail High Right-center
    Global News High Left-center
    National Post High Right-center
    Toronto Star High Left-center
    Toronto Sun Mostly factual Right


    Australia

    News media Factual reporting Political bias
    9 News High Right-center
    ABC High Left-center
    The Age High Left-center
    The Australian Mixed Right-center
    Daily Telegraph Mixed Right
    The Herald Sun Mostly factual Right-center
    News.com.au Mostly factual Right-center
    The Sydney Morning Herald High Left-center


    News in English from non-English-speaking countries

    News media Country Factual reporting Political bias
    Al Jazeera Qatar Mixed Left-center
    ANSA Italy High Least biased
    Asahi Shimbun Japan High Left-center
    CCTV International China Mixed Left-center
    Deutsche Welle (DW News) Germany High Left-center
    El Pais Spain High Left-center
    Euronews France High Least biased
    EU Observer Belgium High Left-center
    France 24 France High Least biased
    Japan Times Japan High Least biased
    Japan Today Japan High Left-center
    The Local Sweden High Left-center
    Mainichi Shimbun Japan High Left-center
    NHK World Japan High Left-center
    Russia Today (RT News) Russia Very low Right-center
    Spiegel Online Germany High Left-center
    South China Morning Post China Mixed Left-center
    Xinhua News China Mixed Left-center
    Yomiuri Shimbun Japan High Right-center

    I don't know but I guess there is not really such thing as unbiased news, it's always with some kind of flavor, middle ground doesn't mean unbiased....I think unbiased is an idee fixe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    And in Europe Maciamo?

    I can add for the Netherlands:

    I. Newspapers:
    - De Telegraaf, right
    - Algemeen Dagblad center-right
    - De Volkskrant, center-left
    - NRC- Handelsblad, center-liberal
    - Trouw, center, christian
    - Het Parool (mostly Amsterdam), center-left
    - Nederlands Dagblad, christian-reformed
    - Reformatorisch Dagblad, reformed-pietistic

    II. News Magazines
    - Elsevier, right
    - Vrij Nederland, center left
    - Groene Amsterdammer, libertarian
    - HP/De Tijd, center

    May be contra to the dominant view about the Netherlands are the biggest newspaper (De Telegraaf) and the biggest Newsmagazine (Elsevier) without doubt right wing. You see also a quite big shot of christian newspapers (calvinistic). There is a liberal-libertarian influence (NRC, Groene Amsterdammer). Newsmagazine Vrij Nederland and Newspaper Het Parool are rooted in the resistance in ww2 and have a social-democratic kind of signature. The story of the newspaper The Volkskrant is most remarkable. It was traditional the newspaper of the Roman-Catholics (Southern Netherlands) but due to the counter culture in the sixties it shifted definitely to the left, now it's kind of center-left.

    Personally I read Elsevier, Groene Amsterdammer, de Volkskrant and a regional newspaper called Dagblad van het Noorden. In the earlier days also Vrij Nederland.

    Who can add for other countries?

    I have read long time the newsmagazine Der Spiegel, kind of center -left (according to the old publisher 'when doubt: left') and Die Zeit kind of liberal-highly academic. Both centered in Hamburg, Germany.

    Can others add???
    Thanks for sharing. The purpose of this thread is to give a summary of the main news websites in English. It would be too daunting a task to tackle the whole world, or even all European countries.

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    NPR in the U.S. is rated "very high" regarding factual reporting?

    Um, no.

    I trust smaller, independent news sources more at this point than the legacy mainstream media. During evolving news stories I look to video recorded by "man on the street" types.

    Nevertheless, I do review sites from all perspectives to distill the most accurate viewpoint. I even force myself to review HuffPo nearly everyday and I listen to NPR when driving to see what the other side has cooked up. Keeps my blood pressure nice and high like I like it.

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    What is most illuminating about these Left-to-Right spectrums for assessing media bias is the complete absence of a national populist Third Position, as though such a perspective did not exist.

    The first question that one should ask is, Who Owns the Media?

    "Democracy has become a weapon of moneyed interests. It uses the media to create the illusion that there is consent from the governed. The press today is an army with carefully organized weapons, the journalists its officers, the readers its soldiers. The reader neither knows nor is supposed to know the purposes for which he is used and the role he is to play. The notion of democracy is often no different than living under a plutocracy or a government by wealthy elites."

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    If by 'democracy' we mean the form which the Third Estate as such wishes to impart to public life as a whole, it must be concluded that democracy and plutocracy are the same thing under the two aspects of wish and actuality, theory and practice, knowing and doing. It is the tragic comedy of the world‑improvers' and freedom‑teachers' desperate fight against money that they are ipso facto assisting money to be effective. Respect for the big number—expressed in the principles of equality for all, natural rights, and universal suffrage—is just as much a class‑ideal of the unclassed as freedom of public opinion (and more particularly freedom of the press) is so. These are ideals, but in actuality the freedom of public opinion involves the preparation of public opinion, which costs money; and the freedom of the press brings with it the question of possession of the press, which again is a matter of money; and with the franchise comes electioneering, in which he who pays the piper calls the tune. The representatives of the ideas look at one side only, while the representatives of money operate with the other. The concepts of Liberalism and Socialism are set in effective motion only by money. … There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money—and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact.

    Concrete Example of Spengler's argument ----> 9-11 and the War on Terror ----> The planes crashing into the Twin Towers were but a "gruesome spectacle." Controlled demolitions brought down WTC 1 & 2, plus the oft-forgotten WTC 7. And yet otherwise intelligent people continue to subscribe to the official narrative, thanks to the media's complete control of the narrative.

    Anybody who understands the truth of 9-11 cannot be at all surprised by the grotesque falsehood that reigns in the media today.

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    Well Dominique, at least we know where you stand.

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