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Thread: Population genomics of the Viking world (Margaryan et al 2020)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I'm not sure I'm an Ancient Iapygian,
    maybe I’m, ... I speculate, ... I look for clues :)

    If you have close matches with the ancient Dalmatian samples , then you should have matches with the Iapygian , as the Iapygian lived initially North-East of the Dalmatians
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    The Viking sample VK398 which is branch T1a2 appears in Yfull



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas View Post
    Check in Admixturestudio this file for other calcs.

    Components %
    North_Atlantic 20,22
    Baltic 7,68
    West_Med 19,16
    West_Asian 13,86
    East_Med 29,90
    Red_Sea 6,73
    South_Asian 0,00
    East_Asian 0,00
    Siberian 0,70
    Amerindian 0,00
    Oceanian 0,00
    Northeast_African 0,11
    Sub-Saharan 1,64



    Mixed Mode:
    1 50,39% Lebanese_Christian + 49,61% AostaValley @ 1,948
    2 50,39% AostaValley + 49,61% Lebanese_Christian @ 1,978
    3 94,92% Basilicata + 5,08% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2,059
    4 94,92% Basilicata + 5,08% Saudi @ 2,140
    5 62,11% Cyprian + 37,89% French @ 2,151
    6 62,11% Greek_Cypriot + 37,89% French @ 2,151
    7 94,14% Basilicata + 5,86% Egyptian @ 2,253
    8 52,73% Nusayri + 47,27% Swiss_Italian @ 2,287
    9 94,14% Basilicata + 5,86% Bedouin @ 2,312
    10 93,36% Basilicata + 6,64% Palestinian @ 2,313

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% Basilicata @ 2,946
    2 100% Abruzzo @ 3,755
    3 100% Molise @ 3,829
    4 100% Campania @ 4,104
    5 100% Apulia @ 4,385
    6 100% Sicily @ 4,435
    7 100% Malta @ 4,828
    8 100% Greek_Andros_Island @ 4,841
    9 100% East_Sicilian @ 4,940
    10 100% West_Sicilian @ 5,412

    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% Lebanese_Christian + 50% AostaValley @ 1,950
    2 50% Lebanese_Muslim + 50% Swiss_Italian @ 2,622
    3 50% Nusayri + 50% Swiss_Italian @ 2,623
    4 50% Samaritan + 50% AostaValley @ 2,752
    5 50% Lebanese_Muslim + 50% Swiss-Italian @ 2,754
    6 50% Piedmont + 50% Nusayri @ 2,767
    7 50% Sephardic_Jewish + 50% Greek_Central-Macedonia @ 2,816
    8 50% Lombardy + 50% Nusayri @ 2,845
    9 50% Piedmont + 50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2,869
    10 50% Basilicata + 50% Malta @ 2,888

    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% Tuscan + 33% Tuscan + 33% Nusayri @ 2,437
    2 33% Tuscan + 33% Tuscan + 33% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2,510
    3 33% Basilicata + 33% Basilicata + 33% Malta @ 2,599
    4 33% Romagna + 33% Romagna + 33% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2,600
    5 33% Romagna + 33% Romagna + 33% Nusayri @ 2,674
    6 33% Basilicata + 33% Abruzzo + 33% Malta @ 2,735
    7 33% Malta + 33% Greek_Andros_Island + 33% West_Sicilian @ 2,746
    8 33% Tuscany + 33% Tuscany + 33% Lebanese_Druze @ 2,840
    9 33% Romagna + 33% Romagna + 33% Syrian @ 2,874
    10 33% Greek_Symi_Island + 33% Sephardic_Jewish + 33% Friuli-VG @ 2,908

    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% Marche + 25% Marche + 25% Marche + 25% Palestinian @ 2,414
    2 25% Greek_Symi_Island + 25% Greek_Symi_Island + 25% Sephardic_Jewish + 25% Swiss_German @ 2,510
    3 25% Basilicata + 25% Basilicata + 25% Basilicata + 25% Malta @ 2,568
    4 25% Marche + 25% Marche + 25% Marche + 25% Jordanian @ 2,617
    5 25% Basilicata + 25% Basilicata + 25% Basilicata + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2,619
    6 25% Malta + 25% Malta + 25% Greek_Andros_Island + 25% Marche @ 2,667
    7 25% Basilicata + 25% Basilicata + 25% Abruzzo + 25% Malta @ 2,676
    8 25% Greek_Symi_Island + 25% Greek_Symi_Island + 25% Sephardic_Jewish + 25% Swiss_French @ 2,730
    9 25% Marche + 25% Marche + 25% Marche + 25% Syrian @ 2,737
    10 25% Malta + 25% Malta + 25% Greek_Andros_Island + 25% Umbria @ 2,750


    Thanks lukas
    Cool results for him
    Sefhardi, aschenazi, bulgarian
    die Überlebenden
    https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y62418/
    https://yfull.com/mtree/H3ap/
    k12b ancient
    Closest:
    3.30708331
    R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietrophenotype: east med with pontic vibe

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    From the supplement:

    https://static-content.springer.com/...MOESM1_ESM.pdf

    Öland, Sweden
    (Prepared by Helene Wilhelmson, Sydsvensk arkeologi AB, Kristianstad, and Department of Archaeology and Ancient History, Lund University)

    Many human remains from the late Iron Age (400-1050 CE) have been excavated from burials and other contexts on the island of Öland in the Baltic Sea. Throughout the period the burials are both cremations as well as inhumations. There is considerable variation in inhumation burial form (pit coffin, stone cist, etc.) during the VA76–80. The uncremated human remains from burials (and other contexts) were recently studied using an interdisciplinary bioarchaeological perspective80 integrating new radiocarbon dates for many graves. The individuals studied for aDNA here are the majority of the late Iron Age population discussed in that study.

    The most recent dietary isotope analysis of human remains, show a great individual variation in diet5 supporting the archaeozoological finds and point towards a population with highly varied subsistence strategies. First generation migration to Öland was investigated through 87Sr/86Sr and δ18O isotopes and the results were interpreted to show extensive immigration to the island with 68% non-local individuals in the late Iron Age. The immigrants appear to be both regional and interregional. The greater variation in individual diet could not be concluded to correlate to provenance of an individual. The people living in Öland during the late Iron Age have therefore been interpreted as a population of mixed provenance resulting in a creolized society with a combination of non-local and local traditions for burial and subsistence practices80.

    The 29 individuals we sampled were included in the study of Wilhelmson80 and consist of all types of burials. They are from 20 sites in Öland, excavated on separate occasions between 1931 and 1975. About half of the individuals (n=15) are dated by 14C and the rest are dated by typology. The burials are inhumations of varied type. They have different orientations (east-west, north-south or southnorth), feature different architecture (lime stone cists, pits, coffins, full boat burial), and include single as well as multiple burials in one grave. Two more skeletons sampled in this study (id 1099, 1052) are from the early Iron Age. The table shown below presents details of the selected individuals.




    This ancient sample was added to YFull:
    L283: J-Z1043>Z8424>Y36972

    Google maps of the Island: https://www.google.com/maps/place/%C...8!4d16.6364773
    Location of find:
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/38...8!4d16.7268612

    This particular sample seems to be classified as "local". Albeit the finds on the island are a mix between local and nonlocal.

    The samples from the island are dated (400-1050 CE).

    Not too sure about VK346.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    So is their "Swedish-like" basically Baltic IE-like in fact? Is that based on IA Swedish samples? I wonder if those were really Germanic Scandinavians, not Baltic people who once lived on the other side of the sea, too, and Germanic tribes were actually and mostly living more to the west at that time (Denmark, Norway, Western Sweden, Northern Germany and Poland).

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    Fwiw, my grandfather's surname is a Latinized version of a Norman surname, first found in Burgundy. His family was also well-to-do, they had wealth inherited back from generations. I wonder if the "Yamnaya Bulgaria" component could be a proxy for some Scandinavian/French/Norman admixture. It could also help explain why I am pulled "North" and "East" of the Mediterraeanean_C6 sample average. Just a theory.

    Barese has old-French and Norman linguistic influences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bari_dialect
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    Much different results when utilizing the samples as individuals. Only 534 and 535 coming out with some North African admixture, but have a larger share of Eastern Mediterranean. 536 comes with Mediterranean, with some Mycenaean. 537 is mostly Mediterranean, with some Eastern Mediterranean. Finally 538 mostly gets Balkan_BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    A new paper just came out: Population genomics of the Viking world (Margaryan et al 2020)

    Abstract

    The maritime expansion of Scandinavian populations during the Viking Age (about AD 750–1050) was a far-flung transformation in world history. Here we sequenced the genomes of 442 humans from archaeological sites across Europe and Greenland (to a median depth of about 1×) to understand the global influence of this expansion. We find the Viking period involved gene flow into Scandinavia from the south and east. We observe genetic structure within Scandinavia, with diversity hotspots in the south and restricted gene flow within Scandinavia. We find evidence for a major influx of Danish ancestry into England; a Swedish influx into the Baltic; and Norwegian influx into Ireland, Iceland and Greenland. Additionally, we see substantial ancestry from elsewhere in Europe entering Scandinavia during the Viking Age. Our ancient DNA analysis also revealed that a Viking expedition included close family members. By comparing with modern populations, we find that pigmentation-associated loci have undergone strong population differentiation during the past millennium, and trace positively selected loci—including the lactase-persistence allele of LCT and alleles of ANKA that are associated with the immune response—in detail. We conclude that the Viking diaspora was characterized by substantial transregional engagement: distinct populations influenced the genomic makeup of different regions of Europe, and Scandinavia experienced increased contact with the rest of the continent.

    Here is the supplementary information (178 pages). There are also Excel tables in supplements. I haven't read anything yet.

    "The 442 ancient individuals were divided into five broad categories (Figure 1 in the main text) and the majority (n=376) were sequenced to between 0.1 and 11X average depth of coverage. The data set includes Bronze Age (n=2) and Iron Age (n=10) individuals from Scandinavia; early VA (n=43)individuals from Estonia (n=34), Denmark (n=6), and Sweden (n=3); ancient individuals associated with Norse culture from Greenland (n=23), VA individuals from Denmark (n=78), the Faroe Islands(n=1), Iceland (n=17), Ireland (n=4), Norway (n=29), Poland (n=8), Russia (n=33), Sweden (n=118),the Isle of Man (n=1), Scotland (n=8), England (n=32), Wales (n=1), and Ukraine (n=3), as well as individuals from the medieval and early modern periods from the Faroe Islands (n=16), Italy (n=5),Norway (n=7), Poland (n=2), and Ukraine (n=1). The VA individuals were supplemented with published genomes from Sigtuna, Sweden (n=21, samples VK557-VK578)35, and Iceland."
    Map based on Germanics vs Celtic (Eurogenes)
    - above Celtic
    - middle Germanic (close to Anglo-Saxons/ Elb-Germans), gross of the Vikings
    - beneath Baltic/ NE Europe
    - besides Romance/Italic

    As known this is build around latest (what's in a name) drift. Regarding Germanics what I can see is that Elb-Germanic (the Bavarian samples) and the Saxon samples are representing the core Germanic space. We as North Dutch are in that space: Chauken/ North Sea amalgam with a little touch Bronze Age population (substrate).


    But see Jutland IA, on the border of the Celtic space, Cimbri? How come?


    The rest of the Celtic-Viking space is known: the Orkney samples were not Scandic, and Iceland and Faroe contain mixes. All clear.


    The 'Baltic' or may be better NE Europe corner is also clear this also showed up in Sigtuna.


    What really is interesting is the 'Romance' sphere with Swede Karda VA and some DNK Langeland samples. They seem to have a Italic or even a Greece mixture.





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    Foggia VK535 - VK537
    Dodecad K12 and K13 coordinates

    Code:
    VK535_Dod_K12,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK537_Dod_K12,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    Code:
    VK535_Dod_K13,0.00,0.44,2.74,0.00,16.55,1.00,36.68,0.83,0.00,22.13,18.61,0.18,0.84
    VK537_Dod_K13,1.13,0.00,2.14,0.00,16.99,0.50,35.10,0.77,0.00,21.45,20.99,0.17,0.76

    ... Credit to Lukas for the Raw-Data, (...thank me for the coordinates above)

    Dod K12:
    modern


    ancient


    Maciano 2way ancient alternative:

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...n-populations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Foggia VK535 - VK537
    Dodecad K12 and K13 coordinates

    Code:
    VK535_Dod_K12,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK537_Dod_K12,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    Code:
    VK535_Dod_K13,0.00,0.44,2.74,0.00,16.55,1.00,36.68,0.83,0.00,22.13,18.61,0.18,0.84
    VK537_Dod_K13,1.13,0.00,2.14,0.00,16.99,0.50,35.10,0.77,0.00,21.45,20.99,0.17,0.76

    ... Credit to Lukas for the Raw-Data, (...thank me for the coordinates above)

    Dod K12:
    modern


    ancient


    Maciano 2way ancient alternative:

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...n-populations!

    what about our T1a2 branch Viking .....................not very far in Yfull from myself ( and you )

    Sample: VK398 / Sweden_Skara 231
    Location: Varnhem, Skara, Sweden
    Age: Viking 10-12th centuries CE
    Y-DNA: T-BY215080
    mtDNA: H1b1-T16362C

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    Salento: Thanks for the coordinates (and provider, Lukas, of the raw data).

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    5.59998214 VK535_Dod_K12
    6.31893978 VK537_Dod_K12


    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    3.70159425 VK535_Dod_K13
    4.63629162 VK537_Dod_K13

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    what about our T1a2 branch Viking .....................not very far in Yfull from myself ( and you )

    Sample: VK398 / Sweden_Skara 231
    Location: Varnhem, Skara, Sweden
    Age: Viking 10-12th centuries CE
    Y-DNA: T-BY215080
    mtDNA: H1b1-T16362C
    I don't have the VK398 data,

    ... if anyone has it, please share it :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I don't have the VK398 data,

    ... if anyone has it, please share it :)
    in yfull VK398 is

    VK398 ......900 (1050750) .........SWE [SE-O].......... T-Y21210 i


    The graves at Varnhem exhibit signs of a socially stratified society. Members of the family that owned the magnate’s farm were buried closest to the church. This is indicated by the presence of limestone coffins. Further away from the church, the dead had been interred in wooden coffins or in simpler graves without a coffin. The social division of the churchyard is also reflected in the state of health that can be observed in the skeletons. There was also a division by gender. Men were buried to the south of the church and women to the north. The dating of the graves is interesting. The burial ground at Varnhem was used continuously for Christian burials from the first half of the 10thcentury CE to the end of the 12thcentury, a period of 250-300 years. Christianity was obviously established in the area by the middle of the 10thcentury CE at the latest71.

    not sure if VK398 became a christian , so being one of the first buried there in a christian cemetary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I don't have the VK398 data,

    ... if anyone has it, please share it :)
    All I got years ago was the admixture split



    T1a1a ....sample VK17
    48% Finnish
    41% Swedish



    T1a2b1 ....sample VK398
    38% Italian
    33% Danish
    13% British

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    Viking Index 12% compared to 13% Swedish Vikings from the Ancient 2WAY by Maciano:






    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...nt-populations
    Last edited by Salento; 18-03-21 at 04:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    what about our T1a2 branch Viking .....................not very far in Yfull from myself ( and you )

    Sample: VK398 / Sweden_Skara 231
    Location: Varnhem, Skara, Sweden
    Age: Viking 10-12th centuries CE
    Y-DNA: T-BY215080
    mtDNA: H1b1-T16362C
    @Torzio

    y T1a2 - VK398 coordinates:

    Dodecad K7 w9 K12 K13
    MDLP k16
    EU K13 K15 K36

    Code:
    VK398_Dod_K7b,0.12,13.33,2.25,1.52,13.17,69.62,0.00
    
    
    VK398_Dod_W9,0.75,0.00,1.42,68.75,0.43,1.96,13.85,12.84,0.00
    
    
    VK398_Dod_K12b,8.51,1.82,0.00,0.00,35.33,41.96,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.00,10.07,1.61
    
    
    VK398_Dod_13,1.67,0.32,1.81,0.00,2.08,0.00,31.67,0.33,0.56,10.18,51.37,0.00,0.00
    
    
    VK398_MDLP_K16,0.22,0.27,22.43,0.00,0.00,0.00,20.55,0.00,25.21,0.01,29.39,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.38
    
    
    VK398_EU_K13,47.61,23.05,11.16,7.28,4.35,3.52,0.30,0.00,0.84,0.68,0.72,0.00,0.49
    
    
    VK398_EU_K15,26.70,35.27,12.81,6.71,5.98,6.62,0.54,3.19,0.39,0.00,0.71,0.32,0.47,0.09,0.22
    
    
    VK398_EU_K36,0.01,0.00,0.00,3.79,0.00,6.69,0.00,0.00,4.72,0.00,5.41,0.00,4.35,8.85,8.71,20.80,0.00,2.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.14,3.26,13.81,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.26,0.48,2.21,0.00


    dod K12 Ancient 2way by Maciano:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Foggia VK535 - VK537
    Dodecad K12 and K13 coordinates

    ... Credit to Lukas for the Raw-Data, (...thank me for the coordinates)

    Code:
    VK535_Dod_K12,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK537_Dod_K12,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    Code:
    VK535_Dod_K13,0.00,0.44,2.74,0.00,16.55,1.00,36.68,0.83,0.00,22.13,18.61,0.18,0.84
    VK537_Dod_K13,1.13,0.00,2.14,0.00,16.99,0.50,35.10,0.77,0.00,21.45,20.99,0.17,0.76
    Foggia VK538 coordinates

    Dodecad: K12 - K13

    EU: K13 - K15 - K36

    Code:
    VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30
    
    
    VK538_Dod_13,0.04,0.38,1.74,0.00,10.52,1.00,34.07,0.00,0.56,12.67,39.01,0.00,0.00
    
    
    VK538_EU_K13,27.62,21.44,19.02,8.37,16.15,4.96,0.00,0.30,0.91,0.00,0.21,0.68,0.34
    
    
    VK538_EU_K15,15.17,19.20,13.23,10.28,15.24,6.93,14.03,4.60,0.00,0.08,0.29,0.00,0.09,0.81,0.04
    
    
    VK538_EU_K36,0.00,1.79,0.53,0.84,0.00,3.26,0.00,0.00,5.81,0.00,10.09,4.99,3.30,4.81,0.88,16.95,0.00,15.52,0.00,8.91,0.49,6.49,1.66,7.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.39,0.00,0.00,4.25

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    fyi I had issues with the new “WGS Extract” app, ... for the VK398 and VK538 bams I used the older version :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Torzio

    y T1a2 - VK398 coordinates:

    Dodecad K7 w9 K12 K13
    MDLP k16
    EU K13 K15 K36

    Code:
    VK398_Dod_K7b,0.12,13.33,2.25,1.52,13.17,69.62,0.00
    
    
    VK398_Dod_W9,0.75,0.00,1.42,68.75,0.43,1.96,13.85,12.84,0.00
    
    
    VK398_Dod_K12b,8.51,1.82,0.00,0.00,35.33,41.96,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.00,10.07,1.61
    
    
    VK398_Dod_13,1.67,0.32,1.81,0.00,2.08,0.00,31.67,0.33,0.56,10.18,51.37,0.00,0.00
    
    
    VK398_MDLP_K16,0.22,0.27,22.43,0.00,0.00,0.00,20.55,0.00,25.21,0.01,29.39,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.38
    
    
    VK398_EU_K13,47.61,23.05,11.16,7.28,4.35,3.52,0.30,0.00,0.84,0.68,0.72,0.00,0.49
    
    
    VK398_EU_K15,26.70,35.27,12.81,6.71,5.98,6.62,0.54,3.19,0.39,0.00,0.71,0.32,0.47,0.09,0.22
    
    
    VK398_EU_K36,0.01,0.00,0.00,3.79,0.00,6.69,0.00,0.00,4.72,0.00,5.41,0.00,4.35,8.85,8.71,20.80,0.00,2.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.14,3.26,13.81,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.26,0.48,2.21,0.00


    dod K12 Ancient 2way by Maciano:

    running numbers in vahaduo

    I get

    Target: VK398_Dod_K12b
    Distance: 0.7464% / 0.74643793 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.1 English_mixed
    13.6 German
    4.0 Adygei
    2.4 Bulgarians
    1.6 ASW30
    1.3 Nganassan

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    I get two results for VK398 ( previous post ) and below

    Target: VK398_Dod_K12b
    Distance: 0.7481% / 0.74813794 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    77.9 English_mixed
    13.3 German
    4.1 Balkars
    2.1 Bulgarians
    1.4 Yoruba
    1.2 Nganassan


    Adygei and Balkars are both in the North-Caucasus area

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    VK17
    ybp 950 - Viking Russia

    y-DNA T-Y138678 (T1a)
    mtDNA U5a2a1b


    coordinates

    Dodecad: K7 W9 K12 K13
    MDLP k16
    EU: K13 K15 K36

    Code:
    VK17_Dod_K7b,0.00,6.60,3.86,1.43,5.59,82.52,0.00
    
    VK17_Dod_W9,0.59,0.00,1.46,81.54,0.03,3.55,8.16,4.67,0.00
    
    VK17_Dod_K12b,2.57,2.93,0.02,0.50,28.20,60.64,0.00,0.12,0.01,0.00,3.78,1.23
    
    VK17_Dod_13,1.94,0.00,0.85,0.81,1.12,0.00,23.14,0.21,1.13,1.24,69.56,0.00,0.00
    
    VK17_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.06,20.77,0.19,1.64,0.00,16.74,0.00,35.60,0.00,23.00,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.00,1.05
    
    VK17_EU_K13,44.12,42.69,5.90,0.11,2.74,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.98,0.00,0.07,0.09,1.28
    
    VK17_EU_K15,39.67,17.44,20.45,17.47,2.27,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.16
    
    VK17_EU_K36,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.44,0.42,4.20,0.00,0.00,2.69,0.00,12.13,0.00,12.56,32.45,9.80,5.29,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.43,0.00,13.58,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

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    Adding to ... and consolidating the five Foggia VK samples coordinates.

    VK534 VK535 VK536 VK537 VK538


    Dodecad: K7 K12 K13 - MDLP: K16 - EU: K13 K15 K36

    Dod K7:

    Code:
    VK534_Dod_K7b,0.00,26.31,0.02,2.88,34.55,34.96,1.27
    VK535_Dod_K7b,0.14,24.22,0,3.01,35.27,36.23,1.13
    VK536_Dod_K7b,0.00,21.50,1.47,2.23,33.44,41.36,0.00
    VK537_Dod_K7b,0.46,24.08,1.32,2.74,33.51,37.89,0
    VK538_Dod_K7b,0,17.17,0.14,1.55,24.19,55.66,1.28

    Dod K12:

    Code:
    VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
    VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
    VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30

    Dod K13:

    Code:
    VK534_Dod_13,0.00,0.16,1.83,0.00,16.95,1.75,34.89,0.00,0.05,22.98,20.20,0.00,1.19
    VK535_Dod_13,0.00,0.44,2.74,0.00,16.55,1.00,36.68,0.83,0.00,22.13,18.61,0.18,0.84
    VK536_Dod_13,1.66,0.00,2.21,0.09,13.14,0.00,40.59,0.34,0.19,19.94,21.65,0.00,0.19
    VK537_Dod_13,1.13,0.00,2.14,0.00,16.99,0.50,35.10,0.77,0.00,21.45,20.99,0.17,0.76
    VK538_Dod_13,0.04,0.38,1.74,0.00,10.52,1.00,34.07,0.00,0.56,12.67,39.01,0.00,0.00
    MDLP K16:
    Code:
    VK534_MDLP_K16,0.22,0.48,12.28,0.00,0.00,0.00,43.56,0.00,9.41,5.30,22.63,2.96,0.00,0.00,0.94,2.22
    VK535_MDLP_K16,0.41,0.00,8.64,2.00,0.00,0.00,36.62,0.00,12.60,5.09,26.76,3.47,0.78,0.01,0.37,3.26
    VK536_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.31,14.83,0.00,0.96,0.00,34.59,0.00,10.52,4.55,29.85,1.65,0.29,0.25,0.00,2.21
    VK537_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.00,10.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,40.88,0.50,10.67,6.58,24.01,4.63,0.00,0.83,0.00,1.73
    VK538_MDLP_K16,0.82,0.00,17.01,0.00,0.02,0.00,27.18,0.30,19.15,1.88,31.19,0.57,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.90
    EU K13:
    Code:
    VK534_EU_K13,16.05,9.75,21.87,15.20,28.50,4.62,1.33,1.40,0.00,0.03,0.00,1.27,0.00
    VK535_EU_K13,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
    VK536_EU_K13,25.42,5.92,24.54,13.04,22.96,4.86,0.00,0.00,1.83,0.00,0.00,1.08,0.34
    VK537_EU_K13,20.22,7.68,19.16,13.86,29.90,6.73,0.00,0.00,0.70,0.00,0.00,0.11,1.64
    VK538_EU_K13,27.62,21.44,19.02,8.37,16.15,4.96,0.00,0.30,0.91,0.00,0.21,0.68,0.34

    EU K15:

    Code:
    VK534_EU_K15,13.66,10.13,7.19,0.14,18.17,15.27,27.54,4.26,0.93,1.38,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.32,0.00
    VK535_EU_K15,8.96,14.66,6.50,2.48,20.42,12.07,23.94,5.86,2.01,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.66,1.38
    VK536_EU_K15,14.33,19.61,2.08,1.42,19.85,14.67,20.53,4.53,0.00,0.00,1.38,0.00,0.05,1.56,0.00
    VK537_EU_K15,13.99,13.83,6.22,0.23,14.68,12.76,29.56,6.57,0.00,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.48
    VK538_EU_K15,15.17,19.20,13.23,10.28,15.24,6.93,14.03,4.60,0.00,0.08,0.29,0.00,0.09,0.81,0.04

    EU K36:

    Code:
    VK534_EU_K36,0.00,4.28,2.85,0.13,0.00,3.44,0.00,0.00,2.58,0.00,2.89,19.54,0.00,4.05,1.51,7.79,0.78,19.46,0.00,10.14,1.62,0.00,1.86,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.03,6.46
    VK535_EU_K36,0.00,4.56,7.41,1.06,0.00,2.49,0.00,0.00,7.68,0.00,2.65,7.52,0.00,0.00,1.14,12.70,0.00,20.42,0.00,12.09,3.67,0.00,8.52,0.00,0.32,0.36,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.81
    VK536_EU_K36,0.00,0.00,1.34,3.82,0.00,1.41,0.00,0.00,1.33,0.00,0.00,12.19,0.00,0.00,4.77,15.62,0.00,20.84,0.00,12.03,2.04,4.36,3.74,3.90,0.88,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.80,5.93
    VK537_EU_K36,0.00,3.74,3.38,0.37,0.00,5.78,0.35,0.00,6.59,0.00,0.00,17.06,0.00,0.00,1.36,12.34,0.00,21.49,0.00,11.29,1.91,1.77,1.52,2.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.42,2.51
    VK538_EU_K36,0.00,1.79,0.53,0.84,0.00,3.26,0.00,0.00,5.81,0.00,10.09,4.99,3.30,4.81,0.88,16.95,0.00,15.52,0.00,8.91,0.49,6.49,1.66,7.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.39,0.00,0.00,4.25

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    Salento: Nice work in post #72 and thanks. I am going to run them.

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    Palermo_Trapani vs. Foggia VK Samples".

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    6.41735927 VK537_EU_K13
    7.12113053 VK534_EU_K13
    8.94680390 VK535_EU_K13
    10.20256830 VK536_EU_K13
    23.35537840 VK538_EU_K13

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    5.96797286 VK535_EU_K15
    7.46930385 VK534_EU_K15
    8.30998797 VK537_EU_K15
    11.13727525 VK536_EU_K15
    21.28857205 VK538_EU_K15

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    3.01807886 VK535_Dod_K7b
    4.13581914 VK537_Dod_K7b
    4.33989631 VK534_Dod_K7b
    6.38683020 VK536_Dod_K7b
    23.41389972 VK538_Dod_K7b

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    5.52786577 VK535_Dod_K12b
    5.87170333 VK536_Dod_K12b
    6.22550400 VK537_Dod_K12b
    10.67837066 VK534_Dod_K12b
    22.34514489 VK538_Dod_K12b

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    3.67483333 VK535_Dod_13
    4.48889741 VK537_Dod_13
    4.62916839 VK534_Dod_13
    6.14185640 VK536_Dod_13
    23.04308790 VK538_Dod_13
    Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 24-03-21 at 02:42. Reason: clarification

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    you’re welcome PT :)

    ... Clash of the Apulians ...

    Salento vs Foggia VKs

    ... though most were imported Apulians, lol

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