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    Brnjica Culture (Kosovo/South Serbia/Macedonia) archaeological source of Dardanians



    I think this is possibly the best candidate for the Dardanian people and language. Some Serbian archaeologists are trying to claim it as a "Daco-Mysian", but the territory is too much in the heart of the Dardanian territory, all the way to the Drin, and explains many things perfectly. Dardanians may have been related to Daco-Mysians distantly, but these people were referred to as Dardanians, not Daco-Mysians.

    Important to note that these people survived in Gjilan, Suhareka. Suhareke is important as its next to Sharr mountains.





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    Also important that there are signs of them reaching some further places like greece.


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    Great info Johane. Thanks for sharing.

    It seems that the theory of the Mycenaeans coming from the East (Anatolia) and Dorians from
    the North is becoming stronger.

    Those later so-called Dorians could have very well been originally non-Hellenic speakers assimilated by the majority after adopting the locals’ more advanced culture.

    It’s not implausible that their previous substrate/tongue influenced how they spoke Hellenic ending up creating a new dialect and accent.

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    about possible wrong assuprtion and easy conclusions some might have.

    1) The title speaks about 1300-750 BC,
    Is that the time of Myceneans?


    2)
    The map of Derite on post suggests a naval invasion, a naval devastasion, a naval entrance at the most kind vocabulary
    Did Dorians came from sea? were they a seafaring civilization?

    Before we go to the next question lets see some facts
    the Mycenean world,





    the protoGreek world




    Interesting isn't it?
    someone can compare the post #2 map and the Greco-Brygian world,
    and have conclusions.

    to end
    Dorian's descent from sea, hmmm

    Suggestion,
    When at Mesopotamia build Megalithic structures,
    At Egypt build Megalithic structures
    at S Greece build also palaces and megaithic structures, but tottally different
    the Long corridor palaces architecture is a design started by Minoans and Myceneans,
    the primary difference of these 2 civilizations with all the rest is this,


    this is the start of Mycenean world



    and is at least 2500 BC.
    meaning long time before from brnijia culture.

    so any connection with Myceneans or seafaring Dorians is out of Question,
    as also might occupied the land that Brygians left behind them.
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    Yetos, I have no idea what you’re on about with the dates and maps you provided. We’re all familiar with these old theories and if we aren’t a trip to Wikipedia would suffice.

    You can post all the coloured maps you want, truth is the theory of Epirus being proto-Brygian holds more water than Proto-Greek.

    The influx from Central and Western Balkans is evident not only in material culture but also as a minority anthropological type (Dinaric and Alpine), as well as influence on the Doric spoken in Laconia. Early Doric might as well have been a creole language that got more and more Hellenic eventually for all we know.

    And similarly the Mycenaean might have come from the East considering its close ties to Armenian and Aryan languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    about possible wrong assuprtion and easy conclusions some might have.

    1) The title speaks about 1300-750 BC,
    Is that the time of Myceneans?


    2)
    The map of Derite on post suggests a naval invasion, a naval devastasion, a naval entrance at the most kind vocabulary
    Did Dorians came from sea? were they a seafaring civilization?

    Before we go to the next question lets see some facts
    the Mycenean world,





    the protoGreek world




    Interesting isn't it?
    someone can compare the post #2 map and the Greco-Brygian world,
    and have conclusions.

    to end
    Dorian's descent from sea, hmmm

    Suggestion,
    When at Mesopotamia build Megalithic structures,
    At Egypt build Megalithic structures
    at S Greece build also palaces and megaithic structures, but tottally different
    the Long corridor palaces architecture is a design started by Minoans and Myceneans,
    the primary difference of these 2 civilizations with all the rest is this,


    this is the start of Mycenean world



    and is at least 2500 BC.
    meaning long time before from brnijia culture.

    so any connection with Myceneans or seafaring Dorians is out of Question,
    as also might occupied the land that Brygians left behind them.
    Hold strong Yetos .....the earth is shaking......it is the Dorians coming from North (Not Epirus obviously)


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    Hold strong Yetos .....the earth is shaking......it is the Dorians coming from North (Not Epirus obviously)


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    Hahaha again you dream,

    seafaring Dorians, and more North than Proto-Greek are far far from your post,

    In fact see it better to see where it is,

    Ahahahaha

    Love you guys when you think you have changed history.

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    Brnjica Culture (Kosovo/South Serbia/Macedonia) archaeological source of Dardanians

    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Hahaha again you dream,

    seafaring Dorians, and more North than Proto-Greek are far far from your post,

    In fact see it better to see where it is,

    Ahahahaha

    Love you guys when you think you have changed history.
    Hahahahha.....its not a dream it is my agenda, we pay people (second hand scientists) to make it generally accepted......:, we have learned from you a great deal......hahahha.

    Sound like GOT, winter is coming......


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