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    Place and classify this Greek family - Individually and as a whole



    Please classify them and tell the top 5 countries ,or even Greek areas, where they could pass.

    The following couple were the parents of my friend's maternal grandmother. All the photos are enhanced and one colorized.
    The man was a Sfakiot Cretan and the woman was half western anatolian greek from Erythrea ,modern day Karaburun in Turkey, from her father's side and half from the island of Milos from her mother's .












    These were their children, my friend's maternal grandmother and her siblings

    Son 1




    Son 2



    Son 3



    Daughter




    My friend is mentioned,though not shown, in the following thread
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...reek-regions-)

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    I’m inclined to say Armenian but he’s got some East Asian mix which kinda makes him look like an Afghani or some Pathans from Pakistan due to their Mongoloid mix.

    Or he’s simply a typical Turk with mostly Anatolid looking plus the slight Mongoloid admix.

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    the grand grand ones, are typical of their origin,.

    the man has typical of his origin, the man probably had red or brown-red hair, right?
    what bothers me is the eyes, they do not seem so sfakiotika.
    the woman is of SE Greece and minor Asia looking
    But bothers me the nose, of a sibling
    the nose especially at photo 9 looks more central east European, it is like having a cresent inwards. possibly dark-dark brown or black hair.
    Erythraia ancient city was founded by Cretans.

    women from Erythraia.

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    Well, the sfakiot great-grandfather really has something off about his eyes,mostly on the first photo. Sfakia though is one of the "drifted" regions of Crete in comparison with the rest of the island if I recall correctly from a recent study, like Mani in comparison with the rest of the Peloponnese so... Could it be that an "atypical" phenotype persisted due to this ? I personally have gone for vacation in the area and have seen some atypical people.

    In which countries could each one pass ? What about phenotypes ?


    About the settlements of Erythraia, they were a mix of Cretans from before but mostly after the ottoman occupation of the island along with other islanders and mainlanders
    https://www.mixanitouxronou.gr/voyrl...-karampoyrnoy/

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    the great grand father in photo 2 looks very Cretan.
    photo 1 looks strange, possibly the light or makeup for photo of that era, or something else.
    Sfakia is a mix of 2 population and is obvious to those who know, he is also missing the blue spots at the eyes, or technical methods of that era could not catch.
    hm, surely has Crete inside him, but something extra.
    have seen such eyes but in East Crete,


    the great grand mana, seems of the type that exists from Near East to S Italy. Her origin is included,
    from my second view. she propably has green eyes also.
    hm she has something Central European,

    do you know the colours (hair eyes skin) of great grand mana?

    btw
    from where is that emblem ethnosemon on the beret?
    Is it the old crown? (κορωνα), or a foreign one?
    seems strange?
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    Son 1 looks quite Eastern European, the eyes and lips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    the great grand father in photo 2 looks very Cretan.
    photo 1 looks strange, possibly the light or makeup for photo of that era, or something else.
    Sfakia is a mix of 2 population and is obvious to those who know, he is also missing the blue spots at the eyes, or technical methods of that era could not catch.
    hm, surely has Crete inside him, but something extra.
    have seen such eyes but in East Crete,


    the great grand mana, seems of the type that exists from Near East to S Italy. Her origin is included,
    from my second view. she propably has green eyes also.
    hm she has something Central European,

    do you know the colours (hair eyes skin) of great grand mana?

    btw
    from where is that emblem ethnosemon on the beret?
    Is it the old crown? (κορωνα), or a foreign one?
    seems strange?
    Characteristics of each one

    Father:
    Hair dark brown, Eyes light brown/honey coloured, Skin tone olive in the typical range

    Mother:
    Hair dark blonde, Eyes blue, Skin tone fair

    Son 1:
    Hair blonde to dark blonde, Eyes blue, Skin tone olive in the typical range

    Son 2:
    Hair dark brown, Eyes dark brown, Skin tone olive maybe on the darker end

    Son 3:
    Hair dark brown, Eyes blue, Skin tone olive maybe on the darker end

    Daughter:
    Hair dark blonde, Eyes green, Skin tone fair olive in the typical range

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