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Thread: how did my haplogroup come to north england?

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    how did my haplogroup come to north england?

    hi. I am from north England and my haplogroup is J1a2b2 [J1-Z1884]. i heard it is common in the middle east, north africa and south italy. my family have lived here and in ireland for hundreds of years and i have an english surname. does anyone have an idea how i got this haplogroup?
    sorry if anything is confusing, i am no expert at this :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by YRD3 View Post
    hi. I am from north England and my haplogroup is J1a2b2 [J1-Z1884]. i heard it is common in the middle east, north africa and south italy. my family have lived here and in ireland for hundreds of years and i have an english surname. does anyone have an idea how i got this haplogroup?
    sorry if anything is confusing, i am no expert at this :)
    Many different ways, looking at known historical events -

    1. Romans who may have carried small amounts of J1 (maybe phoenician?), there is also over 6% of Roman R1b U152 in England along with some other Southern European clades which probably travelled with Romans

    2. Jewish, I think Jews have a short history of settling in England but then we don't know if this is a Jewish clade maybe Arab father had a Jewish wife/partner

    3. Slave? England has a history with slavery. I am not sure how much J1 was found in the countries where England took most slaves from (since I don't know where they took them from), there is more J1 towards East Africa & North

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    J-y13481

    Hi again I'm user YRD3. I had to create a new account my last one was a quick one I made, forgot the password.

    I've had a look on ftdna. I believe the specific haplogroup is J-FT264818 (going down the tree: FT264818 - Y13481 - FT3509014 - FGC4412 - FGC4415 etc) Does anyone have any information on this haplogroup? Thanks.

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    Looks like it may have been spread with arab muslim expansions

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...out-J-FGC4415?

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    Thank you for the link.
    Since the arab armies never made it to Britain during their invasions, my theory is that i have a paternal arab ancestor who settled in spain and his descendants sailed by boat to Britain and settled there. I can't think of another explanation

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