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Thread: Dodecad Globe 13 Ancient & Modern

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    my 1st cousin , once removed

    Target: trentinoClesK13
    Distance: 62.8911% / 62.89107645
    68.6 SZ1_Dod_Globe13
    31.4 SZ40_Dod_Globe13
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    Fantastic work! sorry to say I'm out of votes today.

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    My G13 results:

    Distance to: Jovialis
    2.19171166 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
    2.94545412 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
    3.51341714 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
    3.93150099 ALB_PostMdv:I14686
    4.07899497 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15463
    4.61660048 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Y.kapı_Byz:I14840
    4.65070962 BGR_Anc:I19500
    4.91024439 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19453
    5.29424216 GRC_Palace_of_Nestor_EIA:I19368
    5.53723758 ALB_Mdv:I13839
    5.75930551 ALB_Mdv:I14622
    6.11698455 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19495
    6.16275101 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14831
    6.51842005 MKD_Anc:I10389
    7.05246765 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_PostMdv:I14823
    7.21683449 ALB_PostMdv:I14687
    7.33931877 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13577
    7.40916999 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14822
    8.16132955 MKD_BA:I7231
    8.35838501 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13517_d
    8.49340921 ALB_PostMdv:I15707
    8.55926983 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14832
    8.68715719 ALB_Mdv:I13834
    8.74471269 MKD_Anc:I10391
    8.85206191 MKD_Anc:I10382

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    Nice work Salento.
    I am also without votes. Now I have to search where I stored my Globe 13 coordinates. Recently I changed my windows PC.

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    For some reason it's not working for me. While on the other runs I got 3s, here my lowest was 41???

    Then I started getting notifications of viruses so I just got off the site.


    Non si fa il proprio dovere perchè qualcuno ci dica grazie, lo si fa per principio, per se stessi, per la propria dignità. Oriana Fallaci

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    ^^I'm not sure why, but mediafire seems to set off anti-virus software sometimes. I recall McAfee would delete software from a computer game I had, because it thought it was malware. So idk if it is legit or not.

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    Distance to: Duarte
    6.40289778 ROU_Arman_BA:I10562
    6.60410478 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    7.03358372 HRV_IA:I5726
    7.13071525 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18414_d
    7.36598941 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18415
    7.79020539 SRB_BA:I17912
    7.97618957 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18413
    8.10651590 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18074
    8.21223478 HRV_IA:I5728
    8.27622498 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I17633
    8.30959084 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18724
    8.33723575 SRB_BA:I16803
    8.35315509 HRV_IA:I5723
    8.47205996 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18720
    8.58040792 HRV_IA:I5724
    8.81419310 HRV_Anc:I18831
    8.90520073 MNE_LBA:I13169
    8.99977778 MNE_LBA:I14498
    9.01917956 MNE_LBA_outlier:I13166
    9.04358889 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18725
    9.06712744 HRV_BA:I5074
    9.09538894 HRV_IA:I5725
    9.21891534 ROU_Arman_BA:I10479
    9.30890434 ROU_Arman_BA:I10481
    9.35664470 MNE_LBA:I14501

    Distance to: Duarte
    3.50060109 34.80% BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA:I12834 + 65.20% MNE_LBA_outlier:I13166
    3.86326261 60.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 39.60% MNE_LBA_outlier:I13166
    3.86518523 56.40% GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17959 + 43.60% MNE_Vrbička_Mes:I16995
    4.28844863 22.00% BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA:I19460 + 78.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    4.34515073 64.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 35.40% HRV_Cetina_BA:I18747
    4.36526401 47.20% GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17959 + 52.80% SRB_Iron_Gates_MBA:I5243
    4.36735983 25.40% ALB_PostMdv:I14685 + 74.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    4.38703099 41.40% BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA:I12834 + 58.60% MNE_LBA:I14497
    4.39304289 32.80% HRV_BA:I18712 + 67.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    4.40047485 73.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 27.00% HRV_Cetina_BA:I19032
    4.40340246 73.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 26.80% SRB_IA:I16814
    4.45241564 81.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 18.60% TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14822
    4.47685647 69.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 30.80% HRV_Cetina_BA:I19019
    4.48888067 74.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 26.00% HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15743
    4.49407165 70.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 29.60% HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
    4.53310851 22.80% ALB_PostMdv:I15706 + 77.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    4.57148154 30.40% HRV_BA:I18748 + 69.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    4.57165288 62.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 38.00% MNE_LBA:I14498
    4.57275387 71.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 29.00% MKD_Anc:I10384
    4.61435302 69.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 31.00% MNE_LBA:I13172
    4.61506040 69.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 30.60% MNE_LBA:I14497
    4.61920320 57.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 43.00% SRB_BA:I17912
    4.62583866 20.80% ALB_Mdv:I14622 + 79.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    4.63151795 70.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733 + 29.80% MKD_Anc:I8112
    4.63582344 35.80% HRV_Anc:I18830 + 64.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 2.0096% / 2.00963814 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.0 MNE_LBA_outlier
    22.2 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    18.9 BGR_TellKran_EBA
    18.9 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.9749% / 0.97491914 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    47.7 MNE_LBA_outlier
    27.5 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    8.5 MKD_IA_lc
    6.1 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc
    5.3 BGR_TellKran_EBA
    4.9 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.7684% / 0.76844257
    37.3 MNE_LBA_outlier
    31.1 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    9.5 MKD_IA_lc
    7.9 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc
    7.1 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA
    3.2 MNE_Vrbička_Mes
    2.3 TUR_Marmara_Apollonia_Rom
    1.5 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B
    0.1 HRV_MLBA_lc

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 2.9722% / 2.97215149 | R2P
    77.1 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    22.9 MKD_IA_lc


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 1.6491% / 1.64912626 | R3P
    56.8 MNE_LBA_outlier
    34.9 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    8.3 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.9132% / 0.91319212 | R4P
    40.4 MNE_LBA_outlier
    40.1 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    10.6 MKD_IA_lc
    8.9 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.8522% / 0.85223760 | R5P
    40.2 MNE_LBA_outlier
    34.7 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    10.2 MKD_IA_lc
    7.5 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc
    7.4 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.8265% / 0.82645191 | R6P
    37.7 MNE_LBA_outlier
    34.0 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    11.0 MKD_IA_lc
    9.2 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA
    5.9 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc
    2.2 TUR_Marmara_Apollonia_Rom


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.7556% / 0.75562709 | R7P
    37.2 MNE_LBA_outlier
    32.0 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA
    9.4 MKD_IA_lc
    8.4 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc
    7.2 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA
    3.4 MDA_Ciumai_BA
    2.4 TUR_Marmara_Apollonia_Rom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    For some reason it's not working for me. While on the other runs I got 3s, here my lowest was 41???

    Then I started getting notifications of viruses so I just got off the site.
    @Angela try the Eupedia attachment (it's just a text file).
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    If you get big distances when comparing Dod. K12b with Dod. Globe 13, maybe you’re using the Eurogenes K13 coordinates by mistake, … it happens … easy to confuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Salento: Thanks again for your efforts. Excellent work again. My top 25 Dodecad Global 13 from new Southern Arc Samples.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    4.32297351 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
    5.16114328 BGR_Anc:I19500
    5.44713686 GRC_Palace_of_Nestor_EIA:I19368
    5.46448534 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
    5.71459535 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14831
    5.81486027 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19453
    5.91722063 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13517_d
    6.11599542 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
    6.18164218 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13577
    6.25550158 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Y.kapı_Byz:I14840
    6.49738409 ALB_PostMdv:I14686
    7.00154983 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15463
    7.07378965 ALB_Mdv:I13839
    7.52711764 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20187
    7.65604990 BGR_Diamandievo_IA:I19481
    8.17041003 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_PostMdv:I14823
    8.22290095 ALB_Mdv:I14622
    8.27880426 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20183
    8.31636940 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19495
    8.38663818 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13532
    8.51894947 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13518
    8.83370817 ALB_PostMdv:I14687
    8.91077438 MKD_Anc:I10378
    8.96931436 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13506_d
    9.25437194 MKD_Anc:I7233

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    @Salento, Thank you so much for your patience with my carelessness.

    Distance to: Angela
    2.04907296 MKD_Anc:I10390
    2.69655336 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14688
    2.79136167 MKD_Anc:I10383
    2.88192644 MKD_Anc:I10379
    3.17636585 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16251
    3.20162459 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19490
    3.47279426 MKD_Anc:I10381
    3.77202863 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14692
    3.82009162 MKD_Anc:I10391
    3.86667816 MNE_LBA:I13172
    3.87294462 HRV_BA:I5073
    3.88217722 ALB_PostMdv:I15707
    4.01230607 MNE_LBA:I13167
    4.18557045 MKD_Anc:I10388
    4.71707537 MKD_Anc:I10387
    4.75207323 ALB_PostMdv:I14687
    4.77231600 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19452
    4.86347612 MKD_BA:I7231
    4.92826541 HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
    4.95537082 MKD_Anc:I8112
    5.28376760 ALB_Mdv:I13834
    5.49947270 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16256
    5.67247741 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16254
    5.71251258 ALB_MBA:I8471
    5.97531589 MNE_LBA:I14498
    5.99579853 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16253
    6.01704246 MNE_LBA:I13169
    6.14519324 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15743
    6.23347415 HRV_BA:I18748
    6.23668181 MNE_LBA:I13775
    6.34178208 MKD_Anc:I10384
    6.48779624 MNE_LBA:I13171
    6.50489047 HRV_BA:I5074
    6.54457791 ALB_Mdv:I13839
    6.73703941 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19456
    6.91172193 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18088
    6.98186222 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19451
    7.15825398 MNE_LBA:I13777
    7.31781388 HRV_BA:I18712
    7.41909024 SRB_BA:I16803
    7.57660874 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19455
    7.83118126 MNE_LBA:I14500
    7.93960956 ALB_PostMdv:I14686
    7.94742726 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18747
    7.96300823 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14690
    8.03740630 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18722
    8.09147700 MNE_LBA:I13168
    8.16637006 HRV_BA:I5080
    8.27836336 SRB_BA:I17912
    8.38275611 SRB_BA:I17913

    Strange how I'm closer to some of these ancient samples from the Balkans than I am to many regions in modern Italy.

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    If I do not forgot something, these would be my top 25 with all the coordinates produced so far in this thread.

    Distance to: Duarte
    5.65621782 Olalde_et_al_2019:I12514
    6.13415031 Olalde_et_al_2019:I10895
    6.24398110 Olalde_et_al_2019:I10866
    6.26891538 Olalde_et_al_2019:I10853
    6.39570168 Olalde_et_al_2019:I10892
    6.40289778 ROU_Arman_BA:I10562
    6.55540235 Olalde_et_al_2019:I1313
    6.60410478 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18733
    6.74273683 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R110
    6.89459208 Olalde_et_al_2019:I12516
    6.91129510 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R109
    6.92270901 Saupe_et_al._2021:utigBRC003
    6.92582125 Olalde_et_al_2019:I10852
    6.93939479 Olalde_et_al_2019:I3584
    6.94108061 Olalde_et_al_2019:I6490
    7.03358372 HRV_IA:I5726
    7.11523014 VOL001_Dod_Globe13
    7.13071525 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18414_d
    7.29715013 C_Valdiosera_et_al._2018_por003
    7.34150530 CL94_Dod_Globe13
    7.36598941 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18415
    7.43433924 Saupe_et_al._2021:utigBRC002
    7.48911877 VET001_Dod_Globe13
    7.49508506 Olalde_et_al_2019:I3585
    7.51214350 Saupe_et_al._2021:utigGCP003A1

    Distance to: Duarte
    2.26511210 41.80% Olalde_et_al_2019:I3238 + 58.20% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425
    2.47105866 36.60% Allencroft_et_al_2015:RISE564 + 63.40% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425
    2.57480275 35.20% Allencroft_et_al_2015:RISE484 + 64.80% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425
    2.66170679 60.60% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425 + 39.40% Olalde_et_al_2019:I8202
    2.67924076 59.20% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425 + 40.80% Olalde_et_al_2019:I8340
    2.70795994 13.60% Fernandes_et_al_2020:I4936 + 86.40% Olalde_et_al_2019:I10866
    2.75422367 62.00% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425 + 38.00% HRV_MLBA_lc:I18736
    2.90193501 48.20% Olalde_et_al_2019:I3758 + 51.80% Olalde_et_al_2019:I7425
    2.99114431 41.60% Olalde_et_al_2019:I3238 + 58.40% Olalde_et_al_2019:I8146
    Last edited by Duarte; 15-09-22 at 02:10.

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    My Southern Arc Dodecad Globe 13


    Distance to: Dodecad_Glob_13Stuvanè
    2.90915795 HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
    2.98412466 ALB_MBA:I8471
    3.28841907 ALB_PostMdv:I14685
    3.30136335 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15743
    3.80842487 HRV_Cetina_BA:I19032
    3.86086778 MKD_Anc:I8112
    4.00622016 MKD_Anc:I10384
    4.15675354 HRV_BA:I18712
    4.23124095 MNE_LBA:I13172
    4.67495455 MKD_BA:I7231
    4.70889584 SRB_IA:I16814
    4.72609776 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18747
    4.85644932 HRV_BA:I5073
    5.11095881 ALB_PostMdv:I15706
    5.22952197 MKD_Anc:I10379
    5.34862599 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14692
    5.46329571 MNE_LBA:I14498
    5.55528577 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19490
    5.57302431 MKD_Anc:I10388
    5.71913455 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18088
    5.72315472 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16251
    5.75226043 MNE_LBA:I14497
    6.06819578 HRV_BA:I18748
    6.12454896 MNE_LBA:I13171
    6.19561942 ALB_PostMdv:I15707

    Target: Dodecad_Glob_13Stuvanè
    Distance: 0.8961% / 0.89613518 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    49.5 ALB_PostMdv
    20.4 HRV_Cetina_BA
    12.3 MKD_Anc
    9.9 BGR_Smyadovo_EBA
    7.9 MNE_LBA


    Target: Dodecad_Glob_13Stuvanè
    Distance: 0.4926% / 0.49261451 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    34.8 HRV_Cetina_BA
    28.6 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
    19.0 ALB_PostMdv
    13.7 MNE_LBA
    3.9 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA


    Distance to: Dodecad_Glob_13Stuvanè
    0.47924521 61.60% SRB_BA_outlier:I17916 + 38.40% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I8367
    0.66538695 69.20% SRB_BA:I16813 + 30.80% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I8367
    0.76922790 78.80% MNE_LBA:I14501 + 21.20% TUR_SE_Gaziantep_BA:I14649
    0.79291127 31.40% GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962 + 68.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18073
    0.79902971 68.00% SRB_BA:I16813 + 32.00% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799
    0.80196949 31.80% GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13514 + 68.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18073
    0.82264204 30.80% BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20184 + 69.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18073
    0.82319691 66.80% SRB_BA:I16813 + 33.20% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20574
    0.84632021 27.00% GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA:I15571 + 73.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18073
    0.84944095 26.60% BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19493 + 73.40% HRV_Cetina_BA:I19032
    0.84969212 70.40% SRB_BA:I16813 + 29.60% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Camandras_Dalagöz_Rom:I20139
    0.84983860 61.00% GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13518 + 39.00% TUR_Marmara_Ilıpınar_Byz3:I10430
    0.85237772 78.60% HRV_IA:I5723 + 21.40% TUR_SE_Mardin_RomByz:I4475
    0.85405818 68.80% SRB_BA:I16813 + 31.20% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Camandras_Dalagöz_Rom:I20002
    0.85592719 63.60% ROU_Ploieşti_BA:I10494 + 36.40% TUR_SE_Gaziantep_Byz:I14650
    0.85794335 79.20% HRV_IA:I5723 + 20.80% TUR_SE_Batman_Anc:I14635
    0.88514268 79.00% HRV_IA:I5723 + 21.00% TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4619
    0.90380067 79.20% HRV_IA:I5723 + 20.80% TUR_SE_Gaziantep_Byz:I16571
    0.90669388 64.40% SRB_BA:I16813 + 35.60% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Samantaş_Byz:I20265
    0.91087986 92.80% HRV_Cetina_BA:I19032 + 7.20% HRV_Vinkovci_MN:I7398
    0.92069691 30.60% GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13506_d + 69.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18073
    0.92282321 70.80% SRB_BA:I16813 + 29.20% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I8371
    0.92454319 58.60% SRB_BA_outlier:I17916 + 41.40% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Y.kapı_Byz:I14842
    0.93456274 58.80% SRB_BA_outlier:I17916 + 41.20% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20574
    0.93561944 59.20% HRV_IA:I5723 + 40.80% TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14831

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    Sorry, I'm lost, from where should I take the values? Dodecad or Eurogenes?

    Thanks in advance/ Dimitrios

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    @Salento, Thank you so much for your patience with my carelessness.

    Distance to: Angela
    2.04907296 MKD_Anc:I10390
    2.69655336 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14688
    2.79136167 MKD_Anc:I10383
    2.88192644 MKD_Anc:I10379
    3.17636585 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16251
    3.20162459 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19490
    3.47279426 MKD_Anc:I10381
    3.77202863 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14692
    3.82009162 MKD_Anc:I10391
    3.86667816 MNE_LBA:I13172
    3.87294462 HRV_BA:I5073
    3.88217722 ALB_PostMdv:I15707
    4.01230607 MNE_LBA:I13167
    4.18557045 MKD_Anc:I10388
    4.71707537 MKD_Anc:I10387
    4.75207323 ALB_PostMdv:I14687
    4.77231600 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19452
    4.86347612 MKD_BA:I7231
    4.92826541 HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
    4.95537082 MKD_Anc:I8112
    5.28376760 ALB_Mdv:I13834
    5.49947270 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16256
    5.67247741 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16254
    5.71251258 ALB_MBA:I8471
    5.97531589 MNE_LBA:I14498
    5.99579853 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16253
    6.01704246 MNE_LBA:I13169
    6.14519324 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15743
    6.23347415 HRV_BA:I18748
    6.23668181 MNE_LBA:I13775
    6.34178208 MKD_Anc:I10384
    6.48779624 MNE_LBA:I13171
    6.50489047 HRV_BA:I5074
    6.54457791 ALB_Mdv:I13839
    6.73703941 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19456
    6.91172193 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18088
    6.98186222 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19451
    7.15825398 MNE_LBA:I13777
    7.31781388 HRV_BA:I18712
    7.41909024 SRB_BA:I16803
    7.57660874 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19455
    7.83118126 MNE_LBA:I14500
    7.93960956 ALB_PostMdv:I14686
    7.94742726 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18747
    7.96300823 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14690
    8.03740630 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18722
    8.09147700 MNE_LBA:I13168
    8.16637006 HRV_BA:I5080
    8.27836336 SRB_BA:I17912
    8.38275611 SRB_BA:I17913

    Strange how I'm closer to some of these ancient samples from the Balkans than I am to many regions in modern Italy.

    Target: Angela
    Distance: 13.6727% / 0.13672667
    17.8 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA
    13.6 MNE_LBA
    13.0 MKD_Anc
    6.4 HRV_MLBA_lc
    5.4 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
    5.2 ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL
    3.4 ALB_PostMdv
    3.2 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA
    3.2 HRV_MBA_Cetina_lc
    3.2 MNE_Vrbička_N
    3.0 MKD_N
    2.8 BGR_MalakPreslavets_N
    2.8 TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz
    2.6 TUR_Aegean_Bodrum_Halikarnassos_Anc1
    2.2 IRN_HajjiFiruz_ChL
    2.0 ALB_Mdv_lc
    2.0 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
    1.2 HRV_Vinkovci_MN
    1.0 MNE_Vrbička_Mes
    1.0 TUR_Marmara_Barcın_N_sister.of.I0736
    0.8 BIH_unknown
    0.6 BGR_ChL_outlier
    0.6 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA
    0.6 HRV_Trogir_Byz_outlier
    0.4 ARM_Brardzryal_Urartian
    0.4 BGR_EBA_lc
    0.4 MKD_BA_lc
    0.4 TUR_C_Gordion_Anc
    0.2 ALB_BIA_lc
    0.2 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Değirmendere_Anc
    0.2 TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_B
    0.2 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A

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    Does anyone have a text file of all Jovialis' Dodecad Globe 13 coordinates. When I went to the mediafire site my computer blocked it because of viruses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akritas View Post
    Sorry, I'm lost, from where should I take the values? Dodecad or Eurogenes?

    Thanks in advance/ Dimitrios
    This is Dodecad Globe 13 Ancient. The source data are available in some posts of this thread and your personal coordinates that must used as target must be obtained uploading a kit with your SNPs directly in the Dodecad Globe 13 calculator that is available only in the DNA genics website:

    https://www.dnagenics.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwmouZBhDSARIsALYcourrnlltkdinYlLWJFA tDYaUTZN5qjbs7ua-E864eZ2vbBWELIBJJYwaAuxPEALw_wcB


    After obtain the personal coordinates, all data (source and target coordinates) must be transcribed in Vahaduo to see the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Does anyone have a text file of all Jovialis' Dodecad Globe 13 coordinates. When I went to the mediafire site my computer blocked it because of viruses.
    Hi Angela. This is a link for the Jovialis Dodecad Globe 13 coordinates. To these data you must adding the other coordinates produced after by Salento. Hope it works without viruses.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14se...w?usp=drivesdk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hi Angela. This is a link for the Jovialis Dodecad Globe 13 coordinates. To these data you must adding the other coordinates produced after by Salento. Hope it works without viruses.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14se...w?usp=drivesdk
    Unfortunately, I'm out of juice, but thank you so much. I'll save to my own computer.

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    I wanted to see if I was still closest to these ancient Makedonian and Albanian samples, and I am.

    Distance to: Angela
    2.04907296 MKD_Anc:I10390
    2.69655336 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14688
    2.79136167 MKD_Anc:I10383
    2.88192644 MKD_Anc:I10379
    3.17636585 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16251
    3.20162459 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19490
    3.47279426 MKD_Anc:I10381
    3.70847678 Clemente_et_al._2021:Log02
    3.77202863 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14692
    3.82009162 MKD_Anc:I10391
    3.82638210 Mathieson_et_al_2018:I3499
    3.86667816 MNE_LBA:I13172
    3.87294462 HRV_BA:I5073
    3.88217722 ALB_PostMdv:I15707
    4.01230607 MNE_LBA:I13167
    4.08521725 Olalde_et_al_2019:I8475
    4.18557045 MKD_Anc:I10388
    4.61932896 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R111
    4.71707537 MKD_Anc:I10387
    4.73849132 Krzewińska_et_al_2018:scy197
    4.75207323 ALB_PostMdv:I14687
    4.77231600 BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19452
    4.86347612 MKD_BA:I7231
    4.90245857 Fernandes_et_al_2020:I12221
    4.92826541 HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
    4.95537082 MKD_Anc:I8112
    5.13953305 Olalde_et_al_2019:I6491
    5.28376760 ALB_Mdv:I13834
    5.31522342 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R1285
    5.48747665 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R1287
    5.49947270 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16256
    5.62794812 Olalde_et_al._2018:I1979
    5.62794812 Olalde_et_al_2018:I1979
    5.67247741 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16254
    5.70107007 Mathieson_et_al_2018:I3313
    5.71251258 ALB_MBA:I8471
    5.97531589 MNE_LBA:I14498
    5.99579853 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16253
    6.01704246 MNE_LBA:I13169
    6.07028830 Olalde_et_al_2019:I12645
    6.14519324 HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15743
    6.16178546 KR_Veeramah_et_al._2018:AEHIb
    6.23347415 HRV_BA:I18748
    6.23668181 MNE_LBA:I13775
    6.29963491 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R1
    6.34178208 MKD_Anc:I10384
    6.38015674 Krzewińska_et_al_2018:scy192
    6.41184841 Olalde_et_al_2019:I3574
    6.45279009 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R36
    6.46599567 Antonio_M_et_al_2019:R1283

    Log 2 and the Tuscan like Scythian aren't bad at all either.

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    Modern - Raveane A, Serena A, Montinaro F, et al. 2019

    Code:
    Abruzzo:ALP161,0.00,0.50,0.10,0.00,14.74,0.00,37.40,0.23,0.18,21.99,24.41,0.00,0.44
    Abruzzo:ALP205,0.00,0.69,0.00,0.33,17.73,0.00,37.81,0.00,0.00,23.65,19.11,0.00,0.68
    Abruzzo:Alp090,0.00,0.00,0.03,0.00,16.19,0.00,38.72,0.09,0.13,21.51,21.99,0.56,0.77
    Abruzzo:Alp140,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,16.26,0.00,36.56,0.00,0.11,23.05,22.58,0.77,0.66
    Abruzzo:Alp162,0.00,0.41,0.43,0.05,16.79,0.15,35.98,0.25,0.00,22.61,22.14,1.13,0.07
    Abruzzo:Alp380,0.00,1.12,0.53,0.00,16.62,0.00,38.35,0.00,0.17,22.84,20.05,0.29,0.03
    Abruzzo:Alp503,0.05,0.00,0.00,0.48,15.26,0.10,38.65,0.00,0.00,25.17,19.84,0.10,0.34
    Abruzzo:Alp616,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.30,15.05,0.54,37.58,0.20,0.00,23.81,22.06,0.00,0.46
    Albanian:AL12,0.93,0.02,0.00,0.00,11.07,0.32,39.71,0.00,0.17,17.44,30.34,0.00,0.00
    Albanian:AL17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.95,0.00,37.23,0.88,0.05,19.58,27.90,0.42,0.00
    Albanian:AL29,1.47,0.00,0.33,0.00,14.35,0.23,37.06,0.05,0.06,19.29,26.90,0.00,0.26
    Albanian:AL82,0.13,0.72,0.00,0.30,11.42,0.31,34.40,0.00,0.38,20.25,32.11,0.00,0.00
    Albanian:AL9,0.00,0.23,2.27,0.03,11.54,0.64,37.23,0.71,0.00,17.85,29.18,0.00,0.31
    Albanian:AL98,0.93,0.71,1.24,0.00,13.27,0.06,35.09,0.81,0.27,20.83,26.78,0.00,0.00
    Aosta-Valley:ALP225,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00,5.72,0.00,39.94,0.00,1.08,13.56,38.87,0.70,0.00
    Aosta-Valley:ALP227,0.00,0.75,0.02,0.00,6.51,0.00,38.63,0.27,0.01,12.01,41.46,0.00,0.33
    Apulia:ALP379,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.06,16.94,0.88,38.35,0.00,0.00,22.61,20.23,0.29,0.22
    Apulia:ALP583,0.00,0.31,0.44,0.00,15.42,0.00,38.91,0.19,0.00,24.34,18.81,0.99,0.60
    Apulia:GS32,0.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,15.70,0.00,39.18,0.70,0.68,24.34,18.43,0.00,0.51
    Apulia:GS34,0.20,1.17,0.00,0.00,18.35,0.00,37.19,0.11,0.00,21.63,20.86,0.00,0.49
    Apulia:GS47,0.66,0.00,0.00,0.00,17.04,0.13,38.17,0.51,0.00,23.54,19.23,0.00,0.72
    Apulia:Pu2,0.00,0.45,0.11,0.00,17.16,0.00,36.60,0.00,0.00,22.93,21.59,0.00,1.17
    Apulia:Pu3,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,18.86,0.00,36.90,0.84,0.04,25.09,17.94,0.00,0.33
    Apulia:Pu45,0.13,0.26,0.39,0.00,14.61,0.02,39.12,0.53,0.70,24.10,19.84,0.00,0.30
    Apulia:Pu7,0.00,0.00,0.32,0.01,17.63,0.00,38.85,0.24,0.00,25.45,17.50,0.00,0.00
    Apulia:Pu8,0.00,0.44,0.33,0.00,20.54,0.39,37.14,0.44,0.24,24.48,14.60,0.00,1.41
    Apulia:cera1,0.00,0.36,0.00,0.00,15.76,0.00,39.34,0.39,0.00,22.86,20.40,0.00,0.89
    Apulia:cera2,0.00,0.52,0.45,0.00,14.66,0.00,39.77,0.00,0.00,24.20,20.40,0.00,0.00
    Apulia:cera8,0.00,0.38,0.20,0.43,15.40,0.97,39.08,0.34,0.00,22.78,20.23,0.00,0.18
    Apulia:cera9,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.23,16.00,0.00,39.53,0.61,0.00,21.24,21.94,0.00,0.46
    Basilicata:PG16,0.44,0.00,0.76,0.00,17.22,0.26,37.69,0.33,0.51,24.79,17.03,0.18,0.80
    Basilicata:PG17,0.00,0.00,0.35,0.00,17.16,0.08,37.44,0.32,0.00,24.87,19.78,0.00,0.00
    Basilicata:PG18,0.00,0.65,0.00,0.16,18.07,1.01,37.29,0.00,0.06,22.61,20.15,0.00,0.00
    Basilicata:PG19,0.00,0.06,0.12,0.56,17.40,0.00,38.48,0.66,0.29,22.38,19.34,0.00,0.72
    Basilicata:PG20,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.34,17.37,0.00,38.91,0.47,0.42,23.72,18.35,0.00,0.34
    Basilicata:PG21,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,17.34,0.00,34.84,0.00,0.65,22.60,21.62,1.68,0.93
    Basilicata:PG22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.25,15.65,0.00,37.10,0.03,0.00,26.57,19.91,0.00,0.50
    Basilicata:PG24,0.14,0.00,0.25,0.03,17.12,0.89,37.56,1.22,0.05,22.54,19.06,0.00,1.14
    Basilicata:PG25,0.71,0.00,0.04,0.43,17.48,0.52,37.52,0.77,0.12,23.09,18.82,0.00,0.50
    Calabria:ALP582,0.00,0.59,1.06,0.22,19.32,1.24,38.23,0.41,0.00,24.40,13.79,0.41,0.34
    Calabria:ALP596,0.29,0.00,0.00,0.00,19.57,0.00,37.43,0.04,0.00,23.37,17.87,0.11,1.33
    Campania:NaN119AMR,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.00,18.14,0.88,37.24,0.16,0.00,22.23,20.09,0.00,1.03
    Campania:NaN128LA,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,17.69,0.14,39.00,0.00,0.04,24.32,18.19,0.00,0.63
    Campania:NaN195ST,0.14,0.00,0.58,0.00,16.28,0.91,41.49,0.10,0.20,24.48,15.56,0.00,0.27
    Campania:NaN207MM,0.00,0.15,0.85,0.00,19.09,0.00,37.12,0.39,0.04,24.22,18.14,0.00,0.00
    Campania:NaN212CR,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.26,16.84,0.00,38.77,0.35,0.02,22.83,20.08,0.51,0.19
    Campania:NaN238DM,0.20,0.17,0.00,0.00,16.57,0.13,38.40,0.27,0.00,23.22,20.80,0.00,0.23
    Campania:NaN275IS,0.00,1.03,0.71,0.16,19.88,0.00,36.33,0.37,0.00,26.06,15.33,0.00,0.13
    Campania:NaN289RM,0.00,0.46,0.01,0.13,16.07,1.17,38.37,0.00,0.00,24.47,18.53,0.00,0.79
    Campania:NaN293SF,0.04,0.00,0.45,0.28,16.75,0.01,37.91,0.05,0.26,24.58,18.81,0.69,0.17
    Campania:NaN43TC,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.10,17.24,0.44,39.55,0.40,0.00,21.48,19.90,0.00,0.88
    Campania:NaN46TC,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.24,18.37,0.00,38.69,0.08,0.00,22.98,18.19,0.78,0.54
    Campania:NaN58AC,0.83,0.31,0.52,0.00,16.79,0.00,37.87,0.22,0.00,24.63,17.23,1.50,0.10
    Campania:NaN65DFG,0.12,0.00,0.00,0.00,18.93,0.69,38.24,1.13,0.00,25.13,14.91,0.14,0.71
    Campania:NaN77FAM,0.00,0.00,0.20,0.00,18.66,1.37,37.55,0.00,0.00,25.27,15.89,0.01,1.05
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP081,0.72,0.25,0.08,0.00,9.35,0.00,38.62,0.00,0.00,11.87,38.08,0.80,0.23
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP093,0.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,7.73,0.00,36.17,0.32,0.74,14.22,40.47,0.00,0.05
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP188,1.49,0.59,0.00,0.00,6.83,0.07,27.10,0.17,0.00,10.23,53.53,0.00,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP220,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.13,8.49,0.00,34.42,0.00,0.99,11.76,44.20,0.01,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP233,0.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.03,0.75,37.34,0.20,0.00,14.22,37.42,0.01,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP235,0.32,0.71,0.10,0.00,8.68,0.15,38.28,0.17,0.00,14.25,36.55,0.80,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP280,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.10,8.34,0.36,38.89,0.01,0.00,14.47,37.61,0.21,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP346,0.85,0.65,0.12,0.00,9.15,0.00,37.34,0.46,0.00,13.93,37.49,0.00,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP354,0.37,0.00,0.22,0.00,9.07,0.00,37.52,0.79,0.00,13.38,38.65,0.00,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP435,0.00,0.53,0.00,0.00,8.83,0.17,33.95,0.02,0.87,12.38,42.99,0.00,0.28
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP506,0.25,0.07,0.02,0.00,8.48,0.23,39.06,0.13,0.12,13.42,38.17,0.00,0.04
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:KF1800761,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.39,9.91,0.85,38.60,0.00,0.07,12.44,37.51,0.22,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:KF1803129,0.00,0.54,0.16,0.02,9.97,0.00,37.89,0.00,0.39,11.40,39.63,0.00,0.00
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:KF2700922,0.43,0.11,0.00,0.11,9.38,0.00,35.62,0.00,0.77,13.48,39.99,0.09,0.02
    Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:KF2700960,1.14,0.00,0.05,0.00,9.71,0.73,36.77,0.00,0.00,13.39,38.18,0.04,0.00
    Lazio:NOR24,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.11,14.19,0.00,40.73,0.00,0.44,22.63,21.61,0.15,0.00
    Lazio:NOR28,0.10,0.00,0.17,0.00,15.84,0.52,38.90,0.00,0.07,22.80,21.59,0.00,0.00
    Lazio:PG28,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,16.17,0.00,40.91,0.10,0.00,16.66,25.77,0.00,0.19
    Lazio:PG30,0.12,0.00,0.00,0.08,15.82,0.35,38.10,0.00,0.00,19.94,25.23,0.00,0.35
    Liguria:ALP099,0.45,0.49,0.51,0.15,10.07,0.02,41.03,0.14,0.05,14.35,32.15,0.55,0.04
    Lombrardy:ALP288,0.52,0.16,0.00,0.00,10.70,0.05,39.57,0.21,0.35,14.64,33.05,0.33,0.41
    Lombrardy:BGD103,0.15,0.91,0.00,0.00,10.53,0.00,40.65,0.03,0.81,13.41,33.52,0.00,0.00
    Lombrardy:BGD28,0.12,1.11,0.00,0.09,9.88,0.27,42.72,0.00,0.00,13.45,32.36,0.00,0.00
    Lombrardy:BGD301,0.36,0.00,0.18,0.00,9.41,0.46,44.87,0.18,0.00,14.11,30.43,0.00,0.00
    Lombrardy:BGD31,0.65,0.09,0.00,0.00,10.59,0.25,41.87,0.15,0.00,14.18,32.21,0.00,0.00
    Marche:MarABG010D,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.04,14.38,0.59,39.41,0.04,0.00,18.72,25.99,0.19,0.63
    Marche:MarABI020D,0.00,0.07,0.71,0.01,13.40,0.00,40.30,0.00,0.10,20.16,24.99,0.00,0.26
    Marche:MarABN020D,0.49,0.00,0.10,0.00,14.83,0.77,38.28,0.43,0.00,20.55,24.55,0.00,0.00
    Marche:MarABP050D,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.14,14.16,0.31,39.68,0.00,0.30,21.02,23.86,0.00,0.51
    Marche:MarABQ080D,0.79,0.00,0.00,0.00,14.93,0.00,39.25,0.26,0.13,19.34,25.02,0.00,0.29
    Marche:MarABU050D,0.00,0.00,0.22,0.00,12.45,1.31,39.44,0.00,0.39,18.21,27.98,0.00,0.00
    Marche:MarABY030D,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.30,15.76,0.00,37.85,0.00,0.00,21.21,23.89,0.00,0.60
    Marche:MarACM040D,0.00,0.25,0.13,0.00,15.84,0.00,38.58,0.05,1.06,22.39,21.60,0.11,0.00
    Marche:MarACO060D,0.00,0.56,0.00,0.03,14.31,0.00,39.02,0.48,0.00,20.03,25.27,0.00,0.30
    Marche:MarACO100D,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.34,16.56,0.00,37.72,0.33,0.00,21.47,23.37,0.00,0.00
    Marche:MarACV100D,0.00,0.54,0.00,0.00,14.58,0.19,36.83,0.72,0.00,19.38,27.20,0.57,0.00
    Marche:MarACW030D,0.00,0.26,0.19,0.00,12.95,0.45,39.88,0.00,0.00,18.60,27.41,0.01,0.27
    Marche:MarACW080D,0.09,1.50,0.00,0.10,13.34,0.00,38.08,0.00,0.30,21.81,24.76,0.01,0.00
    Marche:MarACY030D,0.00,0.15,0.00,0.00,14.75,0.39,38.99,0.35,0.56,20.52,24.04,0.05,0.21
    Marche:MarADC050D,0.00,0.00,0.26,0.14,12.19,0.20,40.79,0.38,0.00,19.00,27.03,0.00,0.00
    Marche:MarADG030D,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.32,14.46,0.00,38.00,0.00,0.09,18.76,27.26,0.56,0.34
    Molise:PG26,0.00,0.28,0.29,0.27,15.29,0.00,37.89,0.23,0.14,23.31,22.04,0.00,0.26
    Molise:PG27,0.35,0.00,0.20,0.34,14.53,0.79,38.23,0.19,0.00,22.48,22.77,0.00,0.11
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070,0.53,0.11,0.00,0.00,7.81,0.32,39.45,0.00,0.14,11.53,40.12,0.00,0.00
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071,0.82,0.27,0.00,0.17,6.79,0.26,39.11,0.00,0.00,11.41,41.16,0.00,0.00
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP114,0.51,0.00,0.05,0.00,10.47,0.00,42.36,0.32,0.10,15.95,30.15,0.00,0.10
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP200,0.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.56,0.00,38.57,0.56,0.00,15.13,34.90,0.10,0.00
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP259,0.00,0.00,0.01,0.00,9.05,0.32,42.43,0.00,0.00,10.84,37.35,0.00,0.00
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP395,0.11,0.20,0.00,0.00,8.15,0.00,40.64,0.00,0.00,12.84,37.22,0.83,0.00
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP414,0.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.25,0.00,29.63,0.33,0.44,8.63,53.47,0.35,0.00
    Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP420,0.17,0.47,0.00,0.00,9.19,0.00,40.01,0.08,0.01,12.34,37.22,0.51,0.00
    Tuscany:MURLO114,0.00,0.55,0.21,0.00,13.13,0.00,40.45,1.08,0.13,16.38,27.46,0.59,0.00
    Tuscany:VO109,0.00,0.67,0.08,0.09,14.54,0.00,38.70,0.84,0.08,16.95,27.78,0.00,0.27
    Tuscany:VO59,0.00,0.99,0.00,0.00,12.51,0.00,38.60,0.78,0.00,17.93,29.19,0.00,0.00
    Tuscany:VO65,0.00,0.16,0.19,0.00,12.80,0.16,41.68,0.17,0.00,16.16,28.24,0.00,0.44
    Umbria:PG03,0.14,0.08,0.00,0.00,15.28,0.06,40.17,0.00,0.09,19.84,22.97,0.69,0.66
    Umbria:PG04,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.15,13.86,0.00,38.00,0.18,0.35,20.65,26.35,0.00,0.25
    Umbria:PG05,0.00,0.13,0.07,0.00,14.87,0.13,39.36,0.42,0.32,21.32,23.37,0.00,0.00
    Umbria:PG06,0.00,0.53,0.00,0.23,12.41,0.36,39.39,0.36,0.00,23.69,22.67,0.36,0.00
    Umbria:PG07,0.00,0.73,0.00,0.11,14.41,0.00,39.86,1.11,0.00,20.00,23.55,0.00,0.23
    Umbria:PG08,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00,12.45,0.93,40.71,0.00,0.00,16.94,28.24,0.61,0.00
    Umbria:PG11,0.33,0.00,0.33,0.00,13.00,0.00,39.08,0.00,0.19,20.18,26.27,0.36,0.26
    Umbria:PG12,0.45,0.12,0.00,0.00,11.06,0.28,40.19,0.00,0.00,20.67,27.02,0.02,0.19
    Umbria:PG15,0.07,0.89,0.00,0.00,14.28,0.00,39.62,0.00,0.00,21.05,22.66,0.87,0.56
    Veneto:ALP022,0.00,0.22,0.07,0.00,9.94,0.37,38.98,0.00,0.00,14.82,35.59,0.00,0.00
    Veneto:ALP040,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,7.48,0.00,43.37,0.23,0.00,14.07,34.84,0.00,0.00
    Veneto:ALP116,0.33,0.59,0.11,0.00,11.22,0.00,40.90,0.18,0.00,14.65,31.90,0.12,0.00
    Veneto:ALP209,0.10,0.00,0.23,0.06,11.74,0.00,39.22,0.00,0.00,15.71,32.94,0.00,0.00
    Veneto:ALP249,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.22,9.15,0.00,39.87,0.18,0.00,14.48,35.54,0.57,0.00
    Veneto:ALP250,0.12,0.75,0.00,0.00,8.96,0.00,39.37,0.00,0.14,11.22,38.94,0.43,0.07
    Veneto:ALP273,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.00,10.75,0.00,38.12,0.00,0.00,13.15,37.02,0.68,0.13
    Veneto:ALP322,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.66,0.00,39.66,0.00,0.00,13.40,37.28,0.00,0.00
    Veneto:ALP378,0.02,0.35,0.00,0.00,7.50,0.00,39.02,0.26,0.59,15.01,37.24,0.00,0.00
    Veneto:Alp100,0.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.11,1.30,39.80,0.00,0.00,10.01,37.63,0.19,0.00
    Veneto:Alp401,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,8.15,1.04,40.32,0.00,0.00,13.44,36.98,0.00,0.00
    Veneto:KF1800751,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.73,0.00,40.73,0.35,0.00,13.36,35.70,0.00,0.13
    Veneto:KF1800772,0.00,0.13,0.00,0.00,8.87,0.33,41.37,0.00,0.00,14.99,33.81,0.49,0.00
    Veneto:KF1803105,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,8.96,0.00,40.13,0.12,0.00,12.47,37.21,0.00,0.09
    Veneto:KF1803109,0.30,0.21,0.00,0.00,11.18,0.00,40.13,0.34,0.30,13.91,33.22,0.00,0.42
    Veneto:KF1803151,0.00,1.19,0.00,0.00,9.07,0.48,37.62,0.00,0.25,13.73,37.54,0.13,0.00

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    You southerners! You always get such good fits! :)

    Could there have been more movement in Northern Italy in the modern era, as well as movement from the south to the north? Some of this looks pretty suspicious to me, especially the first one. There's got to have been some admixture there.

    Distance to: Angela
    2.15041856 Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP114
    2.90554642 Tuscany:VO65
    3.25808226 Umbria:PG08
    3.63945051 Lombrardy:BGD301
    4.24671638 Albanian:AL12
    4.25786331 Tuscany:MURLO114
    4.26838377 Marche:MarADC050D
    4.58823495 Lombrardy:BGD31
    4.62923320 Veneto:ALP116
    4.68313997 Marche:MarABU050D
    4.83383905 Marche:MarACW030D
    4.89824458 Liguria:ALP099
    5.06793844 Lombrardy:BGD28
    5.49736300 Tuscany:VO59
    5.51427239 Umbria:PG12
    6.02238325 Veneto:KF1800772
    6.15707723 Veneto:ALP209
    6.17461740 Lombrardy:ALP288
    6.27081334 Veneto:KF1803109
    6.27198533 Tuscany:VO109
    6.45184470 Marche:MarABG010D
    6.53313860 Lombrardy:BGD103
    6.60784382 Umbria:PG11
    6.68780981 Marche:MarABI020D
    6.73751438 Albanian:AL9

    The fit is not good for the following, but I suppose it captures the basic idea: half Northern Italian and half Central Italian. Usually, it shows Lombardia and Toscana, but those were different samples.

    Campania/Lombardia/Umbria
    6.2 60.0 33.8
    Average 0.51972833 6.2 60.0 33.8

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    Salento: Thanks, great work again!!!!!


    Distance to: PalermoTrapani
    0.85702975 Basilicata:PG19
    1.03087342 Campania:NaN43TC
    1.57530949 Campania:NaN212CR
    1.68178477 Apulia:ALP379
    1.69481562 Basilicata:PG24
    1.98836616 Apulia:GS47
    2.03577995 Campania:NaN119AMR
    2.08129767 Basilicata:PG25
    2.21596480 Campania:NaN238DM
    2.21855809 Abruzzo:Alp380
    2.22688123 Apulia:cera1
    2.33355951 Campania:NaN46TC
    2.35278558 Basilicata:PG20
    2.37571042 Abruzzo:ALP205
    2.41789164 Basilicata:PG18
    2.52513366 Apulia:cera8
    2.73700566 Apulia:GS34
    2.89818909 Abruzzo:Alp090
    2.94996610 Lazio:NOR28
    2.95115232 Campania:NaN128LA
    2.96599056 Apulia:cera9
    3.06814276 Marche:MarACM040D
    3.27533204 Campania:NaN293SF
    3.32198736 Campania:NaN289RM
    3.32633432 Apulia:Pu2

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    Modern - Tamm, E., Di Cristofaro, J., Mazières, S. et al. 2019

    Code:
    Corsica:1308,0,0.32,0.25,0,15.33,0.21,43.80,0,0,13.92,26.16,0,0
    Corsica:03708,0.11,0.31,0,0.08,14.07,0,44.71,0,0,15.54,24.45,0,0.72
    Corsica:11908,0.49,0,0,0,9.44,0.44,39.87,0.23,0,11.71,37.24,0,0.58
    Corsica:14708,0.43,0.33,0.22,0,9.82,0,44.19,0,0,13.35,31.62,0,0.03
    Corsica:19508,0,0,0,0,14.10,0.34,44.24,0,0.18,12.78,27.48,0.60,0.28
    Corsica:24508,0.14,0.76,0,0.17,12.98,0.40,43.06,0,0,13.94,28.12,0.44,0
    Corsica:29008,0,0.25,0.24,0.22,12.90,0,44.12,0,0,16.71,25.56,0,0
    Corsica:29708,0.13,0.07,0.09,0,12.33,0,45.03,0.18,0,14.70,27.00,0.47,0
    Corsica:S00708,0.47,0,0,0,8.86,0,45.33,1.54,0,8.60,34.85,0.10,0.26
    Corsica:S03308,0,0,0.49,0,12.25,0.27,44.11,0.54,0,15.03,27.31,0,0
    Corsica:S04208,0,0.08,0.06,0.07,11.11,0.10,43.80,0.58,0,15.19,28.99,0,0
    Corsica:S10208,0,0,0,0.10,11.77,0.59,48.36,0,0.45,13.95,24.72,0,0.05
    Corsica:S13308,0.36,0.38,0.14,0,3.27,0.10,36.61,0.37,0.18,9.91,48.39,0,0.29
    Corsica:S13808,0.02,0.43,2.48,0,11.65,0.81,43.05,0,0.66,13.39,27.19,0,0.32
    Corsica:S15608,0,0,4.47,0.95,11.93,0,43.46,0.64,0,12.67,25.89,0,0
    Corsica:S29908,0,0.34,0,0.25,12.58,0.26,43.54,0.15,0.08,16.63,25.88,0,0.28
    Italy-Piedmont:43,0,0.32,0,0.33,10.44,0,42.65,0.40,0.10,19.04,26.61,0,0.11
    Italy-Piedmont:61,0,0,0,0,10.20,0.88,39.86,0.29,0.02,14.17,34.51,0,0.06
    Italy-Piedmont:63,0,0,0.38,0.12,10.17,1.54,40.05,0.11,0.75,14.40,32.47,0,0
    Italy-Piedmont:98,0.61,0,0,0.16,11.40,0,41.99,0,0,13.43,32.41,0,0
    Italy-Piedmont:119,0.05,0,0,0.13,10.71,0,41.77,0.15,0.10,15.25,31.50,0.34,0
    Italy-Piedmont:127,0,0,0.30,0,8.52,0.19,38.95,0.27,0,14.19,36.38,1.01,0.18
    Italy-Piedmont:136,0,1.05,0.16,0,12.35,0,40.12,0,0.25,15.85,30.23,0,0
    Italy-Piedmont:145,0,0.59,0,0,11.74,0.09,40.03,0,0.48,17.80,27.93,0.27,1.06
    Italy-Piedmont:149,0,0,0,0,11.18,0.38,41.16,0.28,0.20,16.06,30.73,0,0
    Italy-Piedmont:154,0,0.08,0.25,0.12,13.83,0.64,36.01,0.65,0,17.11,30.79,0.17,0.36
    Portugal:1,0.39,1.21,1.06,0.05,8.23,0,43.38,0,0,6.64,35.98,1.18,1.89
    Portugal:2,0,0.63,1.77,0.14,10.67,0.49,42.36,0.59,0.78,10.06,31.02,0.18,1.32
    Portugal:3,0,0.21,0.66,0,10.48,0.93,42.53,0.41,0,8.18,34.57,0.24,1.77
    Portugal:6,0,0.54,1.18,0.18,8.88,0.38,44.09,0,0,6.21,37.68,0,0.85
    Portugal:7,0,0.26,0.46,0,10.16,0,42.12,0,1.13,8.06,35.45,0,2.36
    Portugal:9,0,0.49,0.35,0,8.15,0,43.84,0.21,0,6.26,35.88,2.10,2.71
    Portugal:10,0.43,0,0.77,0,10.67,0.25,41.27,0,0,8.15,36.46,0.28,1.73
    Portugal:11,0,1.07,1.54,0,10.96,0,40.46,0.14,0,7.18,36.72,0.87,1.07
    Portugal:12,0.32,0,1.63,0,9.58,0,42.38,0.54,0.90,9.04,34.62,0,0.99
    Portugal:13,0,0.73,1.22,0.01,8.52,0,43.96,0,0.50,8.90,34.40,0.79,0.96
    Provance:2508,0,0.68,0.03,0,7.98,0.18,39.34,0.59,0.08,12.63,38.16,0.32,0
    Provance:2708,0,0,0.32,0.66,11.09,0,39.94,0.19,0.25,13.92,33.01,0.63,0
    Provance:4109,0,0.05,0.08,0,6.98,1.19,40.98,0,0,9.23,41.11,0,0.38
    Provance:4409,0,0.54,0.97,0,5.73,0,33.37,0,1.00,11.69,46.11,0.60,0
    Provance:4509,0,0.22,0,0.17,6.87,0,39.89,0.73,0,9.63,42.49,0,0
    Tuscany:27,0.40,0,0,0,11.00,0,41.62,0.21,0,16.92,28.77,0.28,0.80
    Tuscany:38,0,0,0.16,0.35,13.34,0,39.95,0,0,16.86,28.61,0.73,0
    Tuscany:54,0,0.62,0,0.40,11.01,0,41.08,0,0,19.24,27.41,0,0.23
    Tuscany:65,0,0,0.13,0.09,13.13,0.20,41.92,0.17,0,15.47,28.34,0,0.54
    Tuscany:74,0.53,0,1.63,0,11.28,0.36,39.44,0,0,17.55,28.17,1.04,0
    Tuscany:93,0.31,0.69,0.05,0.07,12.92,0,39.41,0.89,0,17.29,28.04,0,0.31
    Tuscany:98,0,0.06,0,0.38,9.75,0,42.58,0,0,16.65,28.99,1.60,0

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