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  1. #26
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    Country: Greece



    Is it Dodecad Globe 13 ? if so , here are my friend's and his mother's results

    Distance to: Chris
    3.00293190 I3403:É_Harney_et_al._2019
    4.26845405 I6937:É_Harney_et_al._2019
    6.42063860 I3404:É_Harney_et_al._2019

    Distance to: Chris_Mom
    7.40763795 I6937:É_Harney_et_al._2019
    8.20551034 I3403:É_Harney_et_al._2019
    12.08579331 I3404:É_Harney_et_al._2019

    Chris
    Code:
    1 100% Greek_D  @ 6.220
    2 100% S_Italian_Sicilian_D  @ 7.271
    3 100% Sicilian_D  @ 7.334
    4 100% Ashkenazy_Jews  @ 8.243
    5 100% Ashkenazi_D  @ 8.440
    6 100% C_Italian_D  @ 9.620
    7 100% Tuscan  @ 14.019
    8 100% O_Italian_D  @ 14.522
    9 100% Turkish_Aydin_Ho  @ 14.617
    10 100% Sephardic_Jews  @ 14.667
    11 100% TSI30  @ 14.726
    12 100% Morocco_Jews  @ 16.208
    13 100% Turkish_Cypriot_D  @ 18.203
    14 100% Cypriots  @ 18.882
    15 100% Turkish_D  @ 19.643
    16 100% Turkish_Kayseri_Ho  @ 19.730
    17 100% Turks  @ 20.535
    18 100% N_Italian_D  @ 20.670
    19 100% Bulgarians_Y  @ 21.575
    20 100% North_Italian  @ 21.636
    21 100% Turkish_Istanbul_Ho  @ 21.696
    22 100% Bulgarian_D  @ 21.890
    23 100% Lebanese  @ 22.058
    24 100% Romanians  @ 24.144
    25 100% Kumyks_Y  @ 26.485

    Chris_Mom
    Code:
    1 100% Ashkenazy_Jews  @ 9.768
    2 100% Ashkenazi_D  @ 10.504
    3 100% S_Italian_Sicilian_D  @ 10.770
    4 100% Turkish_Aydin_Ho  @ 11.005
    5 100% Sicilian_D  @ 11.033
    6 100% Greek_D  @ 12.570
    7 100% Turkish_Cypriot_D  @ 12.793
    8 100% Sephardic_Jews  @ 13.583
    9 100% Turkish_D  @ 13.698
    10 100% Turkish_Kayseri_Ho  @ 13.727
    11 100% Cypriots  @ 14.262
    12 100% Turks  @ 14.503
    13 100% Morocco_Jews  @ 15.805
    14 100% Lebanese  @ 15.866
    15 100% Turkish_Istanbul_Ho  @ 15.867
    16 100% C_Italian_D  @ 16.023
    17 100% Tuscan  @ 20.872
    18 100% O_Italian_D  @ 21.141
    19 100% Druze  @ 21.350
    20 100% TSI30  @ 21.576
    21 100% Syrians  @ 21.615
    22 100% Kumyks_Y  @ 21.984
    23 100% Uzbekistan_Jews  @ 22.640
    24 100% Jordanians  @ 23.807
    25 100% Georgia_Jews  @ 23.816

  2. #27
    Regular Member Salento's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H12a

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: United States



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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
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    I3404 mtDNA is H12a (... vs H12), ... same as I6937

    I checked them both :)






    I3403 - I3404 - I6937 coordinates
    Code:
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_K7b,0.00,27.35,0.00,0.40,34.38,37.09,0.77
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_K7b,0.55,27.34,0.00,0.92,29.40,41.03,0.77
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_K7b,0.00,28.49,0.00,2.18,34.56,34.78,0.00
    
    
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_K12b,4.91,0.00,1.54,0.70,25.57,17.55,0.36,0.48,11.88,0.00,37.00,0.00
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_K12b,8.22,0.00,1.44,0.86,25.53,20.87,0.49,0.00,10.05,0.00,31.98,0.56
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_K12b,8.79,0.00,3.93,0.00,25.34,14.70,0.00,0.00,12.38,0.00,33.40,1.46
    
    
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_13,0.00,0.24,0.41,0.00,16.56,0.87,36.11,0.00,0.27,24.98,20.56,0.00,0.00
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_13,0.00,0.68,0.99,0.00,13.51,0.42,34.61,0.42,0.00,23.92,25.23,0.22,0.00
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_Dod_13,0.00,0.00,1.60,0.71,16.53,0.30,37.23,0.27,0.00,25.65,16.98,0.74,0.00
    
    
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.00,9.57,0.00,0.72,0.16,44.88,0.44,12.51,3.62,24.82,2.88,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.00
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.00,11.93,0.23,0.00,0.00,42.59,0.00,12.15,4.55,26.81,0.58,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.93
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.00,10.78,0.00,0.00,0.10,45.98,0.22,11.16,6.17,24.21,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.11,1.27
    
    
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K13,16.10,8.21,23.64,14.20,32.79,2.25,0.71,1.45,0.00,0.13,0.00,0.00,0.51
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K13,17.66,16.43,17.15,14.40,30.34,1.44,0.72,0.53,0.00,0.09,0.94,0.00,0.31
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K13,15.20,7.13,21.24,15.56,32.16,5.58,1.12,0.44,0.00,0.08,0.28,0.08,1.13
    
    
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K15,11.31,11.46,6.92,0.22,20.25,13.18,30.80,2.89,1.16,1.01,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.00,0.59
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K15,10.11,14.85,6.40,9.76,14.20,14.88,26.54,1.87,0.29,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.71,0.00,0.20
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K15,1.48,16.63,4.10,6.17,17.19,16.24,29.46,6.64,0.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,0.18,1.10
    
    
    I3403_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K36,0.00,2.33,6.50,0.00,0.00,6.11,0.00,0.00,10.17,0.00,0.00,20.73,0.00,1.83,1.13,1.08,0.00,16.65,0.00,13.26,0.00,5.34,0.86,2.33,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.21,8.48
    I3404_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K36,0.00,1.31,3.96,0.00,0.00,2.60,0.00,0.00,5.15,0.00,5.17,21.55,2.56,1.03,5.23,10.06,0.00,21.64,0.00,7.30,0.00,3.93,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.00,0.00,0.50,0.00,4.34,2.43
    I6937_Skeleton_Lake_Traveler_EU_K36,0.00,3.64,6.74,2.56,0.00,2.43,0.00,0.00,6.40,0.00,0.49,19.29,0.90,0.00,2.08,5.29,0.00,15.72,0.00,13.18,1.46,4.57,1.19,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.45,0.00,7.89,4.71
    Last edited by Salento; 31-03-21 at 22:02.

  3. #28
    Regular Member Salento's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H12a

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: United States



    2 members found this post helpful.
    I2869 - I3345 - I3348 - I3350 - I3401 - I3403 - I3404 - I3405 - I6935 - I6937- I6939

    Dodecad K 7b 12b 13

    Dod K7b
    Code:
    I2869_Dod_K7b,0.00,29.75,0.00,1.63,34.64,33.67,0.31
    I3345_Dod_K7b,0.00,29.64,0.67,0.95,36.19,31.86,0.70
    I3348_Dod_K7b,2.46,24.19,0.00,0.91,34.24,38.19,0.00
    I3350_Dod_K7b,0.00,31.28,0.65,1.18,33.22,33.34,0.32
    I3401_Dod_K7b,0.00,20.92,0.45,1.43,9.69,65.28,2.23
    I3403_Dod_K7b,0.00,27.35,0.00,0.40,34.38,37.09,0.77
    I3404_Dod_K7b,0.55,27.34,0.00,0.92,29.40,41.03,0.77
    I3405_Dod_K7b,0.00,34.00,0.97,0.35,35.61,28.71,0.36
    I6935_Dod_K7b,0.00,39.09,0.00,0.78,38.18,20.72,1.24
    I6937_Dod_K7b,0.00,28.49,0.00,2.18,34.56,34.78,0.00
    I6939_Dod_K7b,0.00,31.78,0.58,0.45,36.13,30.86,0.20
    Dod K12b:
    Code:
    I2869_Dod_K12b,5.98,0.00,3.10,0.00,23.73,14.69,0.23,0.00,11.15,0.19,39.84,1.11
    I3345_Dod_K12b,8.14,0.43,2.62,0.00,23.11,14.31,0.00,0.93,13.93,0.78,35.74,0.00
    I3348_Dod_K12b,5.64,0.00,2.99,0.00,25.96,18.02,2.50,0.00,13.32,0.00,31.16,0.41
    I3350_Dod_K12b,8.56,0.83,1.91,0.27,25.11,13.69,0.00,0.68,9.32,0.00,39.23,0.40
    I3401_Dod_K12b,6.62,1.36,0.00,1.76,34.54,33.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,21.04,1.50
    I3403_Dod_K12b,4.91,0.00,1.54,0.70,25.57,17.55,0.36,0.48,11.88,0.00,37.00,0.00
    I3404_Dod_K12b,8.22,0.00,1.44,0.86,25.53,20.87,0.49,0.00,10.05,0.00,31.98,0.56
    I3405_Dod_K12b,11.18,0.47,1.68,0.00,23.82,10.56,0.00,0.00,11.59,1.06,39.50,0.15
    I6935_Dod_K12b,12.61,0.00,2.74,1.10,19.43,5.78,0.00,0.19,14.09,0.00,43.95,0.11
    I6937_Dod_K12b,8.79,0.00,3.93,0.00,25.34,14.70,0.00,0.00,12.38,0.00,33.40,1.46
    I6939_Dod_K12b,9.61,0.00,1.68,0.00,24.44,12.56,0.00,0.38,14.49,0.75,36.10,0.00
    Dod 13:
    Code:
    I2869_Dod_13,0.00,0.00,1.47,0.00,15.74,0.85,37.43,0.00,0.00,26.35,17.61,0.26,0.30
    I3345_Dod_13,0.20,0.00,0.26,0.15,20.67,1.27,32.17,0.12,0.20,26.14,17.86,0.00,0.95
    I3348_Dod_13,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,17.48,0.00,34.64,0.80,0.00,22.07,21.85,2.43,0.00
    I3350_Dod_13,0.16,0.78,0.37,0.00,14.96,0.00,36.93,0.91,0.00,28.80,15.80,0.00,1.29
    I3401_Dod_13,0.92,0.00,1.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,37.26,2.47,1.37,14.14,42.50,0.00,0.00
    I3403_Dod_13,0.00,0.24,0.41,0.00,16.56,0.87,36.11,0.00,0.27,24.98,20.56,0.00,0.00
    I3404_Dod_13,0.00,0.68,0.99,0.00,13.51,0.42,34.61,0.42,0.00,23.92,25.23,0.22,0.00
    I3405_Dod_13,0.17,0.00,0.58,0.00,16.55,0.47,35.36,0.00,1.72,31.14,14.00,0.00,0.00
    I6935_Dod_13,0.00,0.35,1.18,0.03,18.94,1.33,35.04,0.02,0.18,36.15,6.78,0.00,0.00
    I6937_Dod_13,0.00,0.00,1.60,0.71,16.53,0.30,37.23,0.27,0.00,25.65,16.98,0.74,0.00
    I6939_Dod_13,0.52,0.00,0.00,0.17,19.52,0.32,34.76,0.13,0.00,27.22,16.67,0.00,0.68

  4. #29
    Regular Member Salento's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    MtDNA haplogroup
    H12a

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: United States



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    Eu: K13 K15 K36

    EU K13:
    Code:
    I2869_EU_K13,13.59,8.28,22.98,18.90,31.28,2.57,1.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.84
    I3345_EU_K13,12.04,8.53,18.77,19.40,32.45,6.44,0.00,0.57,0.24,0.16,1.23,0.00,0.17
    I3348_EU_K13,10.99,12.78,22.80,15.42,28.31,6.22,0.56,0.00,0.69,0.00,0.84,1.40,0.00
    I3350_EU_K13,12.45,9.95,20.33,17.46,33.67,3.70,0.00,0.00,0.21,0.62,0.61,1.00,0.00
    I3401_EU_K13,50.23,17.69,15.45,14.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.33,0.00,0.75
    I3403_EU_K13,16.10,8.21,23.64,14.20,32.79,2.25,0.71,1.45,0.00,0.13,0.00,0.00,0.51
    I3404_EU_K13,17.66,16.43,17.15,14.40,30.34,1.44,0.72,0.53,0.00,0.09,0.94,0.00,0.31
    I3405_EU_K13,13.65,6.51,20.88,18.55,33.22,5.55,0.00,0.00,0.44,0.82,0.00,0.00,0.39
    I6935_EU_K13,8.04,1.90,18.65,26.79,38.21,4.04,0.00,1.15,0.13,0.00,1.09,0.00,0.00
    I6937_EU_K13,15.20,7.13,21.24,15.56,32.16,5.58,1.12,0.44,0.00,0.08,0.28,0.08,1.13
    I6939_EU_K13,17.91,4.99,19.01,18.95,32.27,5.88,0.00,0.52,0.48,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

    EU K15
    Code:
    I2869_EU_K15,6.14,12.77,6.88,3.13,18.61,19.17,28.58,3.08,0.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.26,0.60
    I3345_EU_K15,15.65,1.79,4.66,3.26,16.07,18.49,31.97,6.39,0.00,0.36,0.15,0.00,1.08,0.13,0.00
    I3348_EU_K15,2.39,15.50,12.55,0.00,19.06,15.64,25.50,5.73,0.68,0.00,0.47,0.00,0.81,1.67,0.00
    I3350_EU_K15,10.39,8.33,6.99,1.74,16.37,19.56,31.72,3.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.41,0.96,0.00
    I3401_EU_K15,16.83,45.69,11.70,3.04,7.36,13.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07,0.00,0.85
    I3403_EU_K15,11.31,11.46,6.92,0.22,20.25,13.18,30.80,2.89,1.16,1.01,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.00,0.59
    I3404_EU_K15,10.11,14.85,6.40,9.76,14.20,14.88,26.54,1.87,0.29,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.71,0.00,0.20
    I3405_EU_K15,4.48,12.42,2.80,5.46,18.08,17.85,32.69,5.42,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.40,0.00,0.00,0.21
    I6935_EU_K15,1.62,7.94,5.31,0.14,14.60,27.20,37.08,4.10,0.00,0.63,0.41,0.00,0.96,0.00,0.00
    I6937_EU_K15,1.48,16.63,4.10,6.17,17.19,16.24,29.46,6.64,0.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,0.18,1.10
    I6939_EU_K15,10.35,13.87,2.59,2.65,14.47,18.21,31.53,5.68,0.00,0.25,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    EU K36
    Code:
    I2869_EU_K36,0.00,2.57,1.94,2.81,0.00,0.29,0.00,0.00,4.21,0.00,2.73,18.22,1.16,0.00,0.00,3.51,0.00,24.23,0.00,14.74,0.08,3.58,4.26,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.31,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.76,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.02,5.58
    I3345_EU_K36,0.00,3.47,8.29,0.00,0.00,5.55,0.00,0.00,2.45,0.00,1.71,13.70,0.00,0.00,6.58,5.52,0.00,17.07,0.00,20.89,1.07,0.00,5.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.54,4.18
    I3348_EU_K36,0.00,6.97,4.36,1.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.14,0.00,5.59,18.31,0.00,0.69,0.00,14.28,0.00,19.63,0.00,7.73,0.00,2.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.89,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.69,4.12
    I3350_EU_K36,0.08,2.49,7.05,0.00,0.00,7.29,0.00,0.00,1.85,0.00,0.22,21.50,2.39,0.89,0.33,13.87,0.00,16.88,0.00,10.16,0.34,0.29,6.31,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.95,3.10
    I3401_EU_K36,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.07,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.72,7.24,0.00,29.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,23.98,5.63,9.81,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.00,0.79,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07,0.00,5.99,0.00
    I3403_EU_K36,0.00,2.33,6.50,0.00,0.00,6.11,0.00,0.00,10.17,0.00,0.00,20.73,0.00,1.83,1.13,1.08,0.00,16.65,0.00,13.26,0.00,5.34,0.86,2.33,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.21,8.48
    I3404_EU_K36,0.00,1.31,3.96,0.00,0.00,2.60,0.00,0.00,5.15,0.00,5.17,21.55,2.56,1.03,5.23,10.06,0.00,21.64,0.00,7.30,0.00,3.93,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.00,0.00,0.50,0.00,4.34,2.43
    I3405_EU_K36,0.00,1.34,11.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,22.91,2.12,0.66,2.75,8.24,0.00,25.01,0.00,10.39,0.00,4.16,7.02,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.19,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.12
    I6935_EU_K36,0.00,4.41,11.59,1.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.05,0.00,0.00,25.30,0.00,0.00,2.10,3.42,0.00,10.12,0.64,11.55,0.00,0.00,2.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,12.37,4.32
    I6937_EU_K36,0.00,3.64,6.74,2.56,0.00,2.43,0.00,0.00,6.40,0.00,0.49,19.29,0.90,0.00,2.08,5.29,0.00,15.72,0.00,13.18,1.46,4.57,1.19,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.45,0.00,7.89,4.71
    I6939_EU_K36,0.00,5.58,9.24,1.61,0.00,3.10,0.00,0.00,11.78,0.00,0.00,24.86,0.40,0.51,0.00,1.55,0.00,10.03,0.00,5.29,0.00,7.06,8.23,0.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.84,3.00

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
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    Country: United States



    ... according to MTA nomenclature, most of the samples above are ‘Hellenic’ ... except for I3401 (Atlantic) and I6935 (Cyprian).

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    ... homemade 3D gif PCA :)
    I3403 (y T1a2...) seems to be my closest Skeleton Lake sample:


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    ... Skeleton Lake coordinates on SOURCE, ... Lupiae (me) results




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