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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I am surprised that since you are DNA related to my wife....you do not have any FVG

    her results
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    53.4%




    • Italy (Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia) #2

    • Italy (Veneto and Lombardy)

    • Italy (Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia) #1



    Balkan



    19.9%




    Iberian



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    North and West European



    8.3%


    .................................................. .......

    Top places 1750 - 1800
    Italy

    Veneto, Italy

    Treviso, Veneto, Italy

    Belluno, Veneto, Italy

    Fontanelle, Veneto, Italy


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    Top places 1650 - 1700
    Carbonera, Veneto, Italy

    Fontane, Veneto, Italy

    Fontanelle, Veneto, Italy

    Grasciano, Abruzzo, Italy

    Lancenigo, Veneto, Italy
    We both have Italy (Veneto and Lombardy), it must be our link; I have only one 5th great-grandfather from FVG, from Premariacco, so little DNA from there.

    I'm surprised Tuscany didn't show up, since I have one great-grandmother whose parents were from Livorno and Siena.

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    And this is another of the additional genetic groups that I get.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hi Carlos

    You must to click in the tab “Ethnicity Estimate”. After show up the new window in app you must to click in the tab “View Full Estimate”. Then, in next window that will be opened will show up all your ethnicities. Click in the ethnicity of your interest and wil be displayed the following dada, for example for one of my ethnicities (Portugal, Group ID: 5176):




    Timelipse of Group ID: 5176 (Portuguese) between 1600 - 2000









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    Quote Originally Posted by HYGILI4K View Post
    We both have Italy (Veneto and Lombardy), it must be our link; I have only one 5th great-grandfather from FVG, from Premariacco, so little DNA from there.

    I'm surprised Tuscany didn't show up, since I have one great-grandmother whose parents were from Livorno and Siena.
    Then you are really Friulan ...........your area, cividale, Udine, Cormons etc are really from Friuli in the FVG ( Friuli -Venezia-Giulia ) ....................my wife come from many towns along the current border of veneto and Friuli, the Livenza river ...from San Stino di Livenza ( in the south ) up to Vittorio Veneto ( was named Ceneda originally prior WW1)

    my Wife has no Tuscan, or even Lombard some Villach Austria yes , carnian alps yes, ......that's all I know for her line.



    FVG - borders reset by Austria in period ( 1820-1870 )
    F = Friuli ......Udine province , speak Furlan
    V = Venezia.....Pordenone area, speak Venetian
    G = Giulian mountains area, speak Furlan........but since they added Trieste and they spoke Venetian even though they never ever where under the Venetian republic , then it must incorporate even some sloveans
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    And this is another of the additional genetic groups that I get.



    Spanish Netherlands ............did your ancestors fight for the Spanish which ruled the area or the dutch that revolted for independence

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Spanish Netherlands ............did your ancestors fight for the Spanish which ruled the area or the dutch that revolted for independence

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands

    That's what you can think of in the first place. I do not see myself capable of inseminating such a large expanse of land in such a short time.




    I am the one who gets the result.




    Does not appear coloured Spain



    There is another historical period and another history that seems more in line with these results.


    In my paternal family they say that we are descended from a French legionnaire who had deserted from Napoleon's troops when they occupied Spain 1808-1814 and had changed his surname. I heard this story personally from my paternal grandfather's brother and my father's sister. The nationality by oral tradition could have been kept confused by oral tradition since the everything for the memory of that time at a popular level would be French; although their troops were multinational to some degree.


    And the time period of my 1900-1950 result on this map is more in keeping with the Napoleonic period than with the Spanish in Holland.


    I see Wikipedia that Louis Bonaparte is proclaimed king in Holland in 1806 and I thought I saw the French recruiting troops in Holland.

    And in my multidisciplinary compilation I have these results of my situation.



    Y HEAT MAPE














    Between 1700 and 1800, it already made its mark in Paris.




    My great-grandfather second man from the right with his 6 brothers. They would be even closer to that ancestor who would have been a deserter from Napoleon's troops according to family legend.




    Other ancestors are fitting me better on other maps. To date for this ancestor that matches my dna Y and the data I handle seems to me the most plausible possibility.
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    Me (ESP-MA)
    Overijssel



    Outstanding places are cities or countries where members of a genetic group lived during a certain period of time, as well as the geographical distribution of the genetic group at that time





    This region appears




    From 1800 to 1850 it no longer appears









    Common group ethnicities
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    ... not MH original, ... from months old upload,
    ... they did get Bari and Lecce (Salento), ... Rome in the images
    ... though they’re still bundling as one easy to spot distinctive population.














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    ... though I’m Leccese (Salento), the highest Confidence Level is Bari,

    I’m writing in Italian for a second:

    @Christa
    ... penso che sarebbe meglio se non ci unissero con i Greci, ci confondono un po’ con gli Ebrei ed altri.
    Ancestry, 23andme e LivingDNA ci sanno distinguere un po’ meglio.

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    I think so. Maybe new regions will be update according to genetic groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christa View Post
    I think so. Maybe new regions will be update according to genetic groups.
    It seems that, at least at the regional or local level, the main DNA testing companies are slowly consolidating,

    and I think they're generally correct because a lot of us know where we're from.


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    ... if true, in the 1600s, Apulians were very popular in the UK, ... unless it’s Ancient Roman shared ancestry, ... or Normans related? Maybe both?

    ... or something else must have happened that I’m not aware of :)




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    Someone used for this group is American of Italian origin.The group is "italians in Bari Apulia and someone of their descendents in United States".So in their genealogy there is some British ancestors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christa View Post
    Someone used for this group is American of Italian origin.The group is "italians in Bari Apulia and someone of their descendents in United States".So in their genealogy there is some British ancestors.
    Attachment 12503
    I can’t see your attachment, ... but are you saying that some of them cheated pretending to be unmixed though they’re mixed ?

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    For someone is indicated only a regions under the genetic groups. Instead, in the case of Bari is indicated ""italians in Bari Apulia and someone of their descendents in United States",so it's possible that in their genealogies there are some British ancestors.
    I don't know well. It's only an hypothesis. I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christa View Post
    For someone is indicated only a regions under the genetic groups. Instead, in the case of Bari is indicated ""italians in Bari Apulia and someone of their descendents in United States",so it's possible that in their genealogies there are some British ancestors.
    I don't know well. It's only an hypothesis. I could be wrong.
    OK, thanks,
    ... and now I can see your image too,
    ... showing the same genetic group code as mine :)

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    I am British













    I don't know if it's related to the other maps of Flevoland since I don't see colored Spain in any time either.

    In the more modern era, Italy and even Azerbaijan appeared, as mentioned above, perhaps due to the mixing of Italian and Irish marriages in the United States.


    In Mexico it also appears, I had heard that a small number of French emigrated to Mexico.

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    Top Places 1700 - 1750 / Confidence Level: High


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    I had forgotten Google Earth but I saw a guy playing with this application and I thought about mixing coordinates related to my results and this is what happened based on and having as only objective my dna Y

    I mixed the coordinates of my dna Y (ESP-MA) with those of my partner's origin in Y full Overijssen





    I obtained the region of Jijel in Algeria.

    Towards the 10th century a. C., the Phoenicians, sailors and merchants, settled in the area in search of bases where to guarantee the security of their trade. In the first century B.C. it was the Romans who invaded the place. It was elevated to the rank of Roman Colony in the year 33 by Caesar Augustus, being administered by a senator.


    With the arrival of the Germanic peoples, the Vandals crossed Spain and travelled through North Africa. They destroyed Igilgili in the year 429.


    From here I mix the coordinates of Jijel with some of Spain, I think I used Gerona. From here I mix the coordinates of Jijel with some of Spain, I think I used Gerona, I tried some other and the result was the same, the sea





    It coincides with this result where it ends up in the sea



    I remember the saying that All roads lead to Rome, so mix those coordinates with those of Rome



    It's funny that mound with that little forest planted there, in my land trees are planted in those areas when there are stones underneath to prevent the harvesting machines from colliding with the stones underneath. Maybe there's Nero's body down there or something...



    If you look very closely, there is the tomb of Nero, so I give myself a margin of 100 years from the death of Nero and I get these results




    Now I mix the coordinates of Rome with Listrim one of my results in MyHeritage




    This oracle has really surprised me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Jovialis
    @Christa

    Top Places 1700 - 1750 / Confidence Level: High

    ... I speculate that in the 1750s some of my relatives must have been the Mayor of Altamura



    ... interesting: one of the ancient names of Altamura is Lupatia, ... Lecce was Lupiae ​:)
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    Do you have ancestors of Altamura?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christa View Post
    Do you have ancestors of Altamura?
    none that I’m aware of, ... but it showed up in my genetic group, ... so I mentioned it, just so you two guys would know :)

    ... meno male che mi hanno dato anche il gruppo genetico di Lecce, ... altrimenti sarebbe stata una tragedia per un Salentino come me, ... lol

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    This is mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    This is mine.
    That’s great Jovialis :)

    ... I've been assigned the Bari and Chieti (Abruzzo) confidence level higher than Lecce (Salento), but I’m happy that at least I got my Ancestral area.






    ... 1650 Chieti shows Calabria and Liguria too, ... nice,

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    I wish I had some results to share but I never bought it. All I know is that they use Ashkenazim as part of the "Middle East" reference group, an ethnicity which by conservative estimates is at least 40-60% European. I'd never heard of anything so stupid by a testing company. That would vastly inflate the "Middle Eastern" in Europeans, and also inflate Ashkenazi in Southern Europeans.

    It's almost as bad as Eurogenes "J" test.

    If you're Southern European and want to know if you have Ashkenazi ancestry to any meaningful degree, go to 23andme. If you have it, the genes will show up.


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