The genomic history of the Aegean palatial civilizations.

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I ran the samples through the K13 Modern so there would be no squawking from other places.

Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log02
3.95887610Tuscan
8.18320842North_Italian
9.02556923West_Sicilian
9.20050542Greek_Thessaly
9.67008273Italian_Abruzzo
12.67926654Central_Greek
13.35816604East_Sicilian
14.66986367Bulgarian
15.02793066South_Italian
15.55129898Romanian
16.80972933Ashkenazi
17.95004457Spanish_Extremadura
18.02786454Portuguese
18.75250117Spanish_Andalucia
19.22330097Spanish_Murcia
19.26025182Serbian
19.50536080Spanish_Valencia
19.51763818Spanish_Galicia
20.30129060Spanish_Cataluna
20.56086088Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
21.11848479Italian_Jewish
21.14110688Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
21.51626594Sephardic_Jewish
21.53301883Algerian_Jewish
23.12442215Spanish_Cantabria

Log4
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log04
8.35465738Romanian
9.15210905Bulgarian
11.49876080Greek_Thessaly
11.76738289Serbian
12.66054106Tuscan
12.79527647North_Italian
14.23441955Italian_Abruzzo
16.80767384West_Sicilian
17.33217240Central_Greek
18.76695500East_Sicilian
19.11081108Moldavian
19.34580833Hungarian
19.40008505Portuguese
19.79225354French
20.08691365Spanish_Extremadura
20.52343051Spanish_Galicia
20.62840517Austrian
20.92206491Spanish_Cataluna
21.09877011West_German
21.27530258Spanish_Murcia
21.36302179South_Italian
21.70000230Spanish_Andalucia
21.75738036Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
21.82477262Spanish_Valencia
22.01043389Croatian

Well, well, here's a surprise, this sample is closest to admixed Jews (i.e. those which mixed with Europeans), but then Mycenaeans were pretty close to them as well.
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Mik15
18.52527193Algerian_Jewish
19.47616492Italian_Jewish
22.04608582Sephardic_Jewish
22.59917919Tunisian_Jewish
22.62203572Libyan_Jewish
23.48751370South_Italian
24.23913159West_Sicilian
24.41921375Ashkenazi
25.45199992Tunisian
25.51561875East_Sicilian
26.79552761Algerian
26.84176969Sardinian
27.07234382Central_Greek
27.57608565Mozabite_Berber
27.78684401Cyprian
27.93904973Moroccan
28.34711096Tuscan
28.77691262Italian_Abruzzo
30.96489141Greek_Thessaly
31.25588905Samaritan
33.31969238Lebanese_Christian
33.32246239North_Italian
34.06860725Egyptian
34.22980865Lebanese_Muslim
34.40983580Palestinian
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Mik15
18.52527193Algerian_Jewish
19.47616492Italian_Jewish
22.04608582Sephardic_Jewish
22.59917919Tunisian_Jewish
22.62203572Libyan_Jewish
23.48751370South_Italian
24.23913159West_Sicilian
24.41921375Ashkenazi
25.45199992Tunisian
25.51561875East_Sicilian
26.79552761Algerian
26.84176969Sardinian
27.07234382Central_Greek
27.57608565Mozabite_Berber
27.78684401Cyprian
27.93904973Moroccan
28.34711096Tuscan
28.77691262Italian_Abruzzo
30.96489141Greek_Thessaly
31.25588905Samaritan
33.31969238Lebanese_Christian
33.32246239North_Italian
34.06860725Egyptian
34.22980865Lebanese_Muslim
34.40983580Palestinian

The first three were Middle Bronze Age. Now for the Early Bronze Age. Much the same for the first one...
Distance to:Greece_EBA_Pta08
16.32743091Algerian_Jewish
17.79478294Italian_Jewish
19.81873861Tunisian_Jewish
19.92590776Libyan_Jewish
20.18929915Sephardic_Jewish
22.12526158South_Italian
22.56049202Cyprian
23.31849266Ashkenazi
24.53357903East_Sicilian
24.91526440West_Sicilian
25.69987549Tunisian
25.91040525Samaritan
25.97189442Central_Greek
27.59686214Algerian
27.73495628Lebanese_Christian
28.45815876Mozabite_Berber
28.80092707Moroccan
28.81681107Italian_Abruzzo
29.38614469Lebanese_Muslim
30.18337125Palestinian
30.34125245Syrian
30.55785987Tuscan
30.63102349Lebanese_Druze
31.10842008Jordanian
31.11900705Greek_Thessaly

Same again...
Distance to:EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou01
16.19176643Algerian_Jewish
17.37221345Italian_Jewish
19.43704453Tunisian_Jewish
19.70652937Libyan_Jewish
19.86622007Sephardic_Jewish
21.27427320Cyprian
21.80122703South_Italian
23.07222139Ashkenazi
24.47097464East_Sicilian
24.97725766Samaritan
25.12103302West_Sicilian
25.75772894Central_Greek
26.47167354Lebanese_Christian
27.11146805Tunisian
28.29519040Lebanese_Muslim
28.72263045Italian_Abruzzo
29.05404103Lebanese_Druze
29.13735232Algerian
29.56914946Palestinian
29.63970142Syrian
30.08778324Mozabite_Berber
30.45786105Jordanian
30.62695382Moroccan
31.04383192Tuscan
31.22407565Greek_Thessaly

And once more...
Distance to:EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou03
11.04838450Algerian_Jewish
12.02086103Italian_Jewish
12.72752922South_Italian
12.99317513Sephardic_Jewish
14.37239020Cyprian
14.59525265Tunisian_Jewish
15.21940866Libyan_Jewish
16.36783736East_Sicilian
17.17588135Central_Greek
17.55569708Ashkenazi
17.96173711West_Sicilian
20.08987805Italian_Abruzzo
21.06931655Lebanese_Muslim
21.61782366Samaritan
22.77767767Lebanese_Christian
22.87203970Syrian
24.39007995Greek_Thessaly
24.76770074Lebanese_Druze
24.78269154Tuscan
25.58807926Jordanian
25.73555323Palestinian
26.03208021Tunisian
27.06813994Turkish
27.66145694Algerian
28.11674768Assyrian

So, even in the Middle Bronze, where we see the increased steppe is from a settlement on the periphery of the Mycenaean world, the other Middle Bronze Age settlements were still like the much later Mycenaean samples we have.

Now, it could be that there are actual Mycenaean samples which have more steppe, brought by these peripheral people. We don't know. However, if there weren't a lot of them, how much change could they have wrought? We just don't know and won't know until we have more samples.

What we do know, however, is when Bronze Age Greece flourished, and when it got temporarily knocked down.

"The Early Bronze Age (3200-2000 B.C.) is characterised by the spread of metal, the use of which is already known in the Final Neolithic or Chalcolithic period. The Northeastern Aegean, the Cyclades and Mainland Greece are home to specific cultural groups during this period.[FONT=&quot]Initially the way of life in all aspects continues along the lines of its Neolithic predecessor. The general development of the second phase of the period (2700-2200 B.C.) leads to the creation of organised settlements, the construction of monumental buildings and a controlled economy with the accumulation of goods and the use of seals. This is the time of the first urban development, communication between settlements and commerce by sea with the shipping of metal objects, Melian obsidian and fine pottery throughout the Aegean.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In the Northeastern Aegean, Poliochni in Lemnos and Troy in Asia Minor become prominent as strong proto-urban centres.To this same period belong the graves of Leukas in the Ionian Sea, with their rich funerary equipment. In Mainland Greece, Boeotian Orchomenos beside the Kopais lake, Lerna in the Argolid and Aegina are among the important centres of this time -for the well-known Neolithic sites such as Sesklo and Lianokladi we have less evidence. In Attica there are many small but important settlements such as Raphina, Askitario and Ag. Kosmas. The imported objects found in these settlements provide evidence of their habitual communication with the Cyclades.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] The development observable during the second phase of the Early Bronze Age comes to an end during the third and last phase of the Period (2200-2000 B.C.). Evident are destructions, the abandonment of settlements and a general disorganisation that has been traditionally associated with the incursion of new populations. The Middle Bronze Age (2000-1600 B.C.) is characterised initially by an economic and cultural decline,as can be seen in the poor remains of the settlements and in the poverty of the burials. It is a time of re establishment and by the middle of the period, development is evident. The growth in population and consequent necessity of further cultivation of the fertile land leads to the appearance of new settlements in opportune places. The most important of these have bronze workshops. Graves are now supplied with bronze weapons and jewellery of gold, bronze and semi-precious stones, in addition to pottery. The pottery of the period, for the most part wheel-made, comprises two main categories Minyan ware and Matt Painted.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Toward the end of the Middle Bronze Age, the richly provided tombs of Mainland Greece bespeak the rise of anumber of ruling groups. The influence of the advanced culture of Minoan Crete, the importation of luxurious and beautifully worked vessels and weapons, the spread of new ideas and techniques is to bring about basic changes that are observable in all levels of life and art. The end of the Middle Helladic Period is marked by social change rather than by catastrophe. It is the time of the Shaft Graves at Mycenae and the new warrior aristocracy which introduces us to the Mycenaean period. "
[/FONT]

The Log samples are dated to 2000 to 1800 BC.
 
I ran the samples through the K13 Modern so there would be no squawking from other places.

Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log02
3.95887610Tuscan
8.18320842North_Italian
9.02556923West_Sicilian
9.20050542Greek_Thessaly
9.67008273Italian_Abruzzo
12.67926654Central_Greek
13.35816604East_Sicilian
14.66986367Bulgarian
15.02793066South_Italian
15.55129898Romanian
16.80972933Ashkenazi
17.95004457Spanish_Extremadura
18.02786454Portuguese
18.75250117Spanish_Andalucia
19.22330097Spanish_Murcia
19.26025182Serbian
19.50536080Spanish_Valencia
19.51763818Spanish_Galicia
20.30129060Spanish_Cataluna
20.56086088Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
21.11848479Italian_Jewish
21.14110688Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
21.51626594Sephardic_Jewish
21.53301883Algerian_Jewish
23.12442215Spanish_Cantabria

Log4
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log04
8.35465738Romanian
9.15210905Bulgarian
11.49876080Greek_Thessaly
11.76738289Serbian
12.66054106Tuscan
12.79527647North_Italian
14.23441955Italian_Abruzzo
16.80767384West_Sicilian
17.33217240Central_Greek
18.76695500East_Sicilian
19.11081108Moldavian
19.34580833Hungarian
19.40008505Portuguese
19.79225354French
20.08691365Spanish_Extremadura
20.52343051Spanish_Galicia
20.62840517Austrian
20.92206491Spanish_Cataluna
21.09877011West_German
21.27530258Spanish_Murcia
21.36302179South_Italian
21.70000230Spanish_Andalucia
21.75738036Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
21.82477262Spanish_Valencia
22.01043389Croatian

Well, well, here's a surprise, this sample is closest to admixed Jews (i.e. those which mixed with Europeans), but then Mycenaeans were pretty close to them as well.
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Mik15
18.52527193Algerian_Jewish
19.47616492Italian_Jewish
22.04608582Sephardic_Jewish
22.59917919Tunisian_Jewish
22.62203572Libyan_Jewish
23.48751370South_Italian
24.23913159West_Sicilian
24.41921375Ashkenazi
25.45199992Tunisian
25.51561875East_Sicilian
26.79552761Algerian
26.84176969Sardinian
27.07234382Central_Greek
27.57608565Mozabite_Berber
27.78684401Cyprian
27.93904973Moroccan
28.34711096Tuscan
28.77691262Italian_Abruzzo
30.96489141Greek_Thessaly
31.25588905Samaritan
33.31969238Lebanese_Christian
33.32246239North_Italian
34.06860725Egyptian
34.22980865Lebanese_Muslim
34.40983580Palestinian
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Mik15
18.52527193Algerian_Jewish
19.47616492Italian_Jewish
22.04608582Sephardic_Jewish
22.59917919Tunisian_Jewish
22.62203572Libyan_Jewish
23.48751370South_Italian
24.23913159West_Sicilian
24.41921375Ashkenazi
25.45199992Tunisian
25.51561875East_Sicilian
26.79552761Algerian
26.84176969Sardinian
27.07234382Central_Greek
27.57608565Mozabite_Berber
27.78684401Cyprian
27.93904973Moroccan
28.34711096Tuscan
28.77691262Italian_Abruzzo
30.96489141Greek_Thessaly
31.25588905Samaritan
33.31969238Lebanese_Christian
33.32246239North_Italian
34.06860725Egyptian
34.22980865Lebanese_Muslim
34.40983580Palestinian

The first three were Middle Bronze Age. Now for the Early Bronze Age. Much the same for the first one...
Distance to:Greece_EBA_Pta08
16.32743091Algerian_Jewish
17.79478294Italian_Jewish
19.81873861Tunisian_Jewish
19.92590776Libyan_Jewish
20.18929915Sephardic_Jewish
22.12526158South_Italian
22.56049202Cyprian
23.31849266Ashkenazi
24.53357903East_Sicilian
24.91526440West_Sicilian
25.69987549Tunisian
25.91040525Samaritan
25.97189442Central_Greek
27.59686214Algerian
27.73495628Lebanese_Christian
28.45815876Mozabite_Berber
28.80092707Moroccan
28.81681107Italian_Abruzzo
29.38614469Lebanese_Muslim
30.18337125Palestinian
30.34125245Syrian
30.55785987Tuscan
30.63102349Lebanese_Druze
31.10842008Jordanian
31.11900705Greek_Thessaly

Same again...
Distance to:EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou01
16.19176643Algerian_Jewish
17.37221345Italian_Jewish
19.43704453Tunisian_Jewish
19.70652937Libyan_Jewish
19.86622007Sephardic_Jewish
21.27427320Cyprian
21.80122703South_Italian
23.07222139Ashkenazi
24.47097464East_Sicilian
24.97725766Samaritan
25.12103302West_Sicilian
25.75772894Central_Greek
26.47167354Lebanese_Christian
27.11146805Tunisian
28.29519040Lebanese_Muslim
28.72263045Italian_Abruzzo
29.05404103Lebanese_Druze
29.13735232Algerian
29.56914946Palestinian
29.63970142Syrian
30.08778324Mozabite_Berber
30.45786105Jordanian
30.62695382Moroccan
31.04383192Tuscan
31.22407565Greek_Thessaly

And once more...
Distance to:EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou03
11.04838450Algerian_Jewish
12.02086103Italian_Jewish
12.72752922South_Italian
12.99317513Sephardic_Jewish
14.37239020Cyprian
14.59525265Tunisian_Jewish
15.21940866Libyan_Jewish
16.36783736East_Sicilian
17.17588135Central_Greek
17.55569708Ashkenazi
17.96173711West_Sicilian
20.08987805Italian_Abruzzo
21.06931655Lebanese_Muslim
21.61782366Samaritan
22.77767767Lebanese_Christian
22.87203970Syrian
24.39007995Greek_Thessaly
24.76770074Lebanese_Druze
24.78269154Tuscan
25.58807926Jordanian
25.73555323Palestinian
26.03208021Tunisian
27.06813994Turkish
27.66145694Algerian
28.11674768Assyrian

So, even in the Middle Bronze, where we see the increased steppe is from a settlement on the periphery of the Mycenaean world, the other Middle Bronze Age settlements were still like the much later Mycenaean samples we have.

Now, it could be that there are actual Mycenaean samples which have more steppe, brought by these peripheral people. We don't know. However, if there weren't a lot of them, how much change could they have wrought? We just don't know and won't know until we have more samples.

What we do know, however, is when Bronze Age Greece flourished, and when it got temporarily knocked down.

"The Early Bronze Age (3200-2000 B.C.) is characterised by the spread of metal, the use of which is already known in the Final Neolithic or Chalcolithic period. The Northeastern Aegean, the Cyclades and Mainland Greece are home to specific cultural groups during this period.Initially the way of life in all aspects continues along the lines of its Neolithic predecessor. The general development of the second phase of the period (2700-2200 B.C.) leads to the creation of organised settlements, the construction of monumental buildings and a controlled economy with the accumulation of goods and the use of seals. This is the time of the first urban development, communication between settlements and commerce by sea with the shipping of metal objects, Melian obsidian and fine pottery throughout the Aegean.
In the Northeastern Aegean, Poliochni in Lemnos and Troy in Asia Minor become prominent as strong proto-urban centres.To this same period belong the graves of Leukas in the Ionian Sea, with their rich funerary equipment. In Mainland Greece, Boeotian Orchomenos beside the Kopais lake, Lerna in the Argolid and Aegina are among the important centres of this time -for the well-known Neolithic sites such as Sesklo and Lianokladi we have less evidence. In Attica there are many small but important settlements such as Raphina, Askitario and Ag. Kosmas. The imported objects found in these settlements provide evidence of their habitual communication with the Cyclades.
The development observable during the second phase of the Early Bronze Age comes to an end during the third and last phase of the Period (2200-2000 B.C.). Evident are destructions, the abandonment of settlements and a general disorganisation that has been traditionally associated with the incursion of new populations. The Middle Bronze Age (2000-1600 B.C.) is characterised initially by an economic and cultural decline,as can be seen in the poor remains of the settlements and in the poverty of the burials. It is a time of re establishment and by the middle of the period, development is evident. The growth in population and consequent necessity of further cultivation of the fertile land leads to the appearance of new settlements in opportune places. The most important of these have bronze workshops. Graves are now supplied with bronze weapons and jewellery of gold, bronze and semi-precious stones, in addition to pottery. The pottery of the period, for the most part wheel-made, comprises two main categories Minyan ware and Matt Painted.

Toward the end of the Middle Bronze Age, the richly provided tombs of Mainland Greece bespeak the rise of anumber of ruling groups. The influence of the advanced culture of Minoan Crete, the importation of luxurious and beautifully worked vessels and weapons, the spread of new ideas and techniques is to bring about basic changes that are observable in all levels of life and art. The end of the Middle Helladic Period is marked by social change rather than by catastrophe. It is the time of the Shaft Graves at Mycenae and the new warrior aristocracy which introduces us to the Mycenaean period. "

The Log samples are dated to 2000 to 1800 BC.


yes:):cool-v:
Greece_EBA_Pta08 and Greece_MBA_Mik15
cluster with western jews specificly algerian jews

algerian jews have higher west med element in k13 than other west jewish groups ( aschenazi) thats why they fit more :unsure:
 
yes:):cool-v:
Greece_EBA_Pta08 and Greece_MBA_Mik15
cluster with western jews specificly algerian jews

algerian jews have higher west med element in k13 than other west jewish groups ( aschenazi) thats why they fit more :unsure:

I also think that North African and Italian Jews have practiced the strictest endogamy of any Jewish groups of which I'm aware.
 
I also think that North African and Italian Jews have practiced the strictest endogamy of any Jewish groups of which I'm aware.


yes
and anyway this result and overlapp is not something
nordicist would like :unsure:
but we are not in battle here of med- nordic :LOL:
 
Lemnian and some other non-Indo-European languages were spoken in northern Greece as late as Iron Age.

There is no evidence Lemnian was spoken in northern Greece. Apart from the handful of inscriptions found in Lemnos, this language is not attested anywhere else.
 
Using Dodecad Global k13, Log02 is my best proxy


Distance to:Dodecad_Glob_13Stuvanè
4.04188075Log02
4.08461749I12221:I12221
4.34099067Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_:R1
5.09472276Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto_:R33
5.18898834I6491:I6491
5.19982692Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna_:R55
5.21557284scy300:scy300
5.21999042scy305:scy305
5.62549553scy192:scy192
5.67967429scy197:scy197
6.18153703Croatia_Vucedol_:I3499
6.45676390Croatia_LBA_:I3313
6.72580850Croatia_EMBA_:I4331
7.03241068_Croatia_EMBA_:I4332
7.23624903Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi_:R105
7.48278691Late_Antiquity_Celio_:R36
7.69515432Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_:R111
7.69551818I3574:I3574
7.72903616Medieval_Era_Cancelleria_:R1285
7.79855756Medieval_Era_Cancelleria_:R1283
8.04805567Log04
8.35907890Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_:R120
8.41250260I8475:I8475
8.59768574Medieval_Era_Cancelleria_:R1287
8.63588444Iron_Age_Civitavecchia_:R474



With Eurogenes k13 Log02 is in 5th position

Distance to:Eurogenesk13Stuvanè
1.74533664SZ36_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
3.14240354R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy
3.42537589SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_60th_century
5.09575313SZ37_Hungary_Langobard_1447_ybp
5.29883950Greece_MBA_Log02
5.57403803R55_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
5.93517481CL36_longobard_north_italy
6.23759569R33_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
6.27857468SZ43_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1431_ybp
6.71080472scy192_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
6.75707777NW54_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1491_ybp
6.89536801SZ32_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
6.95242404STR535_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1491_ybp
6.96397875SZ1_Hungary_BA.SG_3950_ybp
7.07966807SZ1.SG_longobard_hungary
7.11709913R36_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
7.43295365I7424_morisco_
7.68773048R105_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
7.80582475I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp
8.39662432Greece_MBA_Log04
8.65786348I7043_Hungary_BA_4000_ybp
8.95337367I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp
9.20757297R970_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
9.32214568R1287_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
9.32721287CL23_longobard_north_italy

 
Interesting thread. I saw from Angela's post #21 that Greece_MBA_LOG2 was fairly close to West_Sicily. My Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad Global 13 for these new samples. Both have Log_02 as my closest. Thanks to everyone for the sample coordinates. Cheers, PT.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
11.48583911Greece_MBA_Log02
14.73128643EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou03
19.50930291Greece_MBA_Log04
22.06773890Greece_MBA_Mik15
22.15810687EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou01
22.18858265Greece_EBA_Pta08

Dodecad Global 13 Distances.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
12.54329303Log02
17.71794853Kou03
18.67837520Kou01
19.27195890Pta08
19.46929891Log04
19.91225000Mik15
 
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Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log02 (Eurogenes K13 Updated)
2.95259208IT_Romagna
3.13593686Italian
3.39331696IT_Tuscan
4.03905930IT_Umbria
4.20913293IT_Lazio
4.59830404IT_Marche
5.17323883IT_Emilia
5.83922940Greek_Western-Thrace
6.25199168France_Corsica
6.30203142IT_Liguria
7.10985935Albanian_Tosk
7.15717123Torbesh_average
7.33418025Albanian
7.70112329Albanian_Gheg
8.05681699Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.20441497Greek_Thessaly
8.55922894Greek_West_Macedonia
8.96763068IT_Lombardy
9.04089044Greek_Northeast
9.31016112Greek_West
9.41627846Greek
9.44320920IT_Veneto
9.74846142Greek_Central_Macedonia
9.85988337Greek_Peloponnese
9.96484822IT_Abruzzo
10.32186030IT_Piedmont
10.48881786Greek_Athens
10.63293939IT_Molise
10.80119438IT_Friuli-VG
10.84329113Macedonia_south
10.90104582Greek_Central
10.91875451IT_Basilicata
10.98925839Vlach(Aromanian)_average
11.34386178IT_Apulia
11.55377428MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
11.85947925Macednia_north
11.88318560Greek_Cyclades
12.26651132Sicily
12.35061132France_Provence
12.59483227Greek_Andros_Island
12.62022979IT_Trentino
12.63010689Turk_Makedonya
12.78509679Greek_Eastern-Thrace
13.45644455Greek_Ionia
13.47197090IT_Campania
13.65030036Bulgaria_Southeastern
13.69302012Greek_Northern-Thrace
13.92670815Swiss-Italian2
14.03085885Bulgaria_Northeastern
14.27838926Swiss_Italian
14.35592212Turk_Crete
14.44698584Bulgaria_Southcentral
14.55892166Moldova_South_Gagauzia
14.70167678Bosniak_Sandzak
14.82326212Bulgaria_Southwestern


Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log04 (K13 Updated)
7.57147278Bulgaria_Northeastern
8.07289988Macedonia_south
8.21144932MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
8.32564760Macednia_north
8.43821071Vlach(Aromanian)_average
8.53050409Bulgaria_Southwestern
8.63423998Albanian_Gheg
8.81241738Bosniak_Sandzak
8.87257009Bulgaria_Southeastern
8.98715750IT_Friuli-VG
9.16182296Albanian
9.22154542Bulgaria_average
9.29618739Romania_Oltenia
9.33978051Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
9.43313310Bulgaria_Southcentral
9.44151471Montenegrin
9.46655692Romania_Wallachia
9.46857434Torbesh_average
9.52895062Romania_Muntenia
9.67906633Greek_Thessaly
9.68180768Moldova_South_Gagauzia
9.72142994Greek_West_Macedonia
9.73061149Turk_Makedonya
9.75858084Bulgaria_Northcentral
9.76761486Romania_Dobruja
9.77960633Greek_Northeast
10.08394764Romania_Transylvania
10.13963017Romania_Banat
10.29971844IT_Veneto
10.32259657Romania_average
10.38168580Moldova_South
10.40436927Italian
10.46156298Albanian_Tosk
10.50909606Romania_Crisana
10.93294105IT_Emilia
10.96091237IT_Romagna
11.02802339Romania_Moldavia_South
11.02851305Greek
11.03121480Bulgaria_Northwestern
11.06550948Greek_Central_Macedonia
11.33117381Turk_Deliorman
11.38935468Greek_Western-Thrace
11.42264855Pomak_Bulgaria
11.59688751IT_Liguria
11.61155028Serb_south
11.64934333IT_Tuscan
11.75539025Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.80457115Greek_West
11.99857492IT_Trentino
12.02124786IT_Umbria
12.26557785France_Provence
12.32908350Greek_Peloponnese
12.35167195IT_Piedmont
12.42856388IT_Marche
12.62712160Pomak_Greece
 
Distance to:Greece_MBA_Mik15 (K13 Updated)
18.52527193Algerian_Jewish
19.18064650Moroccan_Jew
19.47616492Italian_Jewish
22.04608582Sephardic_Jewish
22.59917919Tunisian_Jewish
22.62203572Libyan_Jewish
23.71164060Greek_Symi_Island
23.97507039IT_Calabria
24.41921375Ashkenazi
24.53356476Algerian
24.59106748Malta
24.89529875Moldova_Jewish
25.05905625Sicily
25.40192512Sardinia
25.45199992Tunisian
25.72141131IT_Campania
25.83348989France_Corsica
25.83513886IT_Apulia
25.94076136Greek_North_Aegean
25.96375936IT_Molise
26.32854345IT_Abruzzo
26.58362278Greek_Dodecanese
27.04873749IT_Basilicata
27.17688540Greek_Crete
27.57608565Mozabite_Berber
27.69486414Greek_Cyclades
27.77894886IT_Lazio
27.78684401Greek_Cypriot
27.81246663Greek_Chios
27.84034842Turk_Cypriot
27.84426871Greek_Ionia
27.93904973Moroccan
28.15080461IT_Marche
28.57076653Greek_Athens
28.77252856IT_Umbria
29.05162646Greek_Western-Thrace
29.32869244IT_Romagna
29.58719656Greek_Central
29.58854508IT_Tuscan
29.96353450Greek_Andros_Island
29.98509797Italian
30.57933453Greek_Peloponnese
30.62563795Albanian_Tosk
30.81097369Greek_West
31.20275789Greek_Eastern-Thrace
31.25588905Samaritan
31.65682075Greek
31.92177157Torbesh_average
31.95516234IT_Emilia
32.05251043Greek_Thessaly
32.08959800Greek_Central_Macedonia
32.20669185Greek_West_Macedonia
32.22759997Albanian
32.37750145IT_Liguria
32.50129074Turk_Crete


Distance to:Greece_EBA_Pta08
16.32743091Algerian_Jewish
17.79478294Italian_Jewish
18.97246162Moroccan_Jew
19.81873861Tunisian_Jewish
19.92590776Libyan_Jewish
20.18929915Sephardic_Jewish
20.98549976Greek_Symi_Island
22.20946420IT_Calabria
22.56049202Greek_Cypriot
23.31849266Ashkenazi
23.36526696Turk_Cypriot
23.39491611Malta
23.52774107Moldova_Jewish
23.59130984Greek_Dodecanese
23.76282811Greek_North_Aegean
24.45126582Sicily
24.66351556Greek_Chios
24.71313011Greek_Crete
24.74700992IT_Campania
25.25267709IT_Apulia
25.68244731IT_Molise
25.69987549Tunisian
25.91040525Samaritan
26.13148484Algerian
26.26939093IT_Abruzzo
26.52989634Greek_Ionia
26.80699722IT_Basilicata
26.83872575Greek_Cyclades
27.73495628Lebanese_Christian
28.01497814Greek_Athens
28.45815876Mozabite_Berber
28.74555792France_Corsica
28.80092707Moroccan
28.95245240Greek_Central
29.17121355Greek_Andros_Island
29.27077211IT_Lazio
29.38614469Lebanese_Muslim
29.57332751IT_Marche
29.59593553Greek_Cappadocian
29.60140368Greek_Western-Thrace
29.74945546Nusayri
29.86855370Sardinia
30.18337125Palestinian
30.34125245Syrian
30.37890057Greek_Peloponnese
30.41623415IT_Umbria
30.58644471Greek_Eastern-Thrace
30.63102349Lebanese_Druze
30.79019649Greek_West
31.10842008Jordanian
31.11073287IT_Romagna
31.28155687Albanian_Tosk
31.34539679Egyptian
31.46955036Turk_Crete
31.60850518Greek

Distance to:EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou01
16.19176643Algerian_Jewish
17.37221345Italian_Jewish
19.05658941Moroccan_Jew
19.43704453Tunisian_Jewish
19.70652937Libyan_Jewish
19.86622007Sephardic_Jewish
20.23696371Greek_Symi_Island
21.27427320Greek_Cypriot
21.80151830IT_Calabria
22.52201146Turk_Cypriot
22.86207340Greek_Dodecanese
23.07222139Ashkenazi
23.09889391Moldova_Jewish
23.20857385Greek_North_Aegean
23.23690599Malta
23.85880760Greek_Chios
24.09940456Greek_Crete
24.38222098Sicily
24.40497900IT_Campania
24.97725766Samaritan
25.07265842IT_Apulia
25.52829802IT_Molise
26.16213676IT_Abruzzo
26.19731093Greek_Ionia
26.47167354Lebanese_Christian
26.62341263Greek_Cyclades
26.71663152IT_Basilicata
27.11146805Tunisian
27.76614485Algerian
27.88783785Greek_Athens
28.14083687Greek_Cappadocian
28.29519040Lebanese_Muslim
28.54428489Nusayri
28.81220575Greek_Central
28.84652145Greek_Andros_Island
29.05404103Lebanese_Druze
29.51372562France_Corsica
29.55576424IT_Lazio
29.56914946Palestinian
29.60335116Greek_Western-Thrace
29.63970142Syrian
29.81333259IT_Marche
30.08778324Mozabite_Berber
30.32839429Greek_Peloponnese
30.45786105Jordanian
30.49133156Greek_Eastern-Thrace
30.62695382Moroccan
30.69436919Greek_West
30.72349589IT_Umbria
31.25585545Turk_Crete
31.38207291Albanian_Tosk
31.47223538IT_Romagna
31.58494420Greek
31.60622407Sardinia
31.61913661Egyptian

Distance to:EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou03
10.46443501Greek_Symi_Island
11.04838450Algerian_Jewish
12.02086103Italian_Jewish
12.83948208IT_Calabria
12.99317513Sephardic_Jewish
13.23161744Greek_Dodecanese
13.74862175Greek_Chios
14.04495639Greek_North_Aegean
14.30644260Moroccan_Jew
14.37239020Greek_Cypriot
14.59525265Tunisian_Jewish
14.91607522Malta
15.06685435Turk_Cypriot
15.21940866Libyan_Jewish
15.22616170Greek_Crete
15.50515076IT_Campania
15.92317179Sicily
16.45927398IT_Apulia
17.25743028IT_Molise
17.30736837Moldova_Jewish
17.55569708Ashkenazi
17.75183371Greek_Ionia
17.98608351Greek_Cyclades
18.03984202IT_Abruzzo
18.16601497IT_Basilicata
18.36695947Greek_Cappadocian
20.03895706Greek_Athens
20.25081480Greek_Andros_Island
20.66184648Nusayri
20.85784505Greek_Central
21.06931655Lebanese_Muslim
21.61782366Samaritan
22.25397717Greek_Western-Thrace
22.35380281IT_Lazio
22.56213421IT_Marche
22.77767767Lebanese_Christian
22.87203970Syrian
23.06649952Greek_Peloponnese
23.21706700Turk_Crete
23.55934846IT_Umbria
23.72957648Greek_West
23.74524163Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
23.82069269Greek_Eastern-Thrace
24.27133494France_Corsica
24.27986409Greek
24.74293232Greek_West_Macedonia
24.75341391IT_Romagna
24.76770074Lebanese_Druze
24.90026907Albanian_Tosk
25.14791443Italian
25.23202529Greek_Istanbul
25.34368560Greek_Northeast
25.35142994Greek_Central_Macedonia
25.58807926Jordanian
25.73555323Palestinian
 
Eurogenes K13 Ancient Distances including new samples.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani
10.35133325I9041_Greece_Mycenaean_3250_ybp
10.48649608I9033_Mycenaean_1352_bc_M_
11.48583911Greece_MBA_Log02
14.73128643EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou03
14.96395001I9010_Mycenaean_1351_bc_
15.57234086I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
16.94984071I9005_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
19.50930291Greece_MBA_Log04
21.13371004I0071_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
21.45854375I0070_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
22.06773890Greece_MBA_Mik15
22.15810687EBA:Greece_EBA_Kou01
22.18858265Greece_EBA_Pta08
24.17464374I0074_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
25.24808706I0073_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp

 
Distance to:TorzioK13
8.23627950Greece_MBA:Greece_MBA_Log04
9.48179835Greece_MBA:Greece_MBA_Log02
15.38939895Bulgaria_EBA:I2520_Bulgaria_EBA_5132_ybp
19.74614140Bulgaria_Thracian:I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp
24.15514852Greece_Mycenaean:I9033_Mycenaean_1352_bc_M_
26.44129914Early_Slav:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_ybp
27.56939426Greece_Mycenaean:I9041_Greece_Mycenaean_3250_ybp
27.80769857Early_Slav:AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
28.76452503Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2430_Bulgaria_Late_C_6448_ybp
29.51368157Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2431_Bulgaria_Middle_C_6615_ybp
30.38001152Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2425_Bulgaria_Late_C_6515_ybp
32.62742865Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2424_Bulgaria_Late_C_6304_ybp
32.80998019Greece_Mycenaean:I9010_Mycenaean_1351_bc_
33.80039645Greece_Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
33.95007364Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2519_Bulgaria_C_6242_ybp
34.30244743Greece_Minoan:I9005_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
35.81743011Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2509_Bulgaria_C_6353_ybp
36.13575238Bulgaria_EBA:I2510_Bulgaria_EBA_4758_ybp
36.16931434Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2423_Bulgaria_Late_C_6388_ybp
36.61578212Bulgaria_Calcolithic:I2427_Bulgaria_Late_C_6340_ybp
37.47596163Greece_MBA:Greece_MBA_Mik15
38.65021475Greece_Minoan:I0071_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
39.25780050Greece_Minoan:I0070_Greece_Minoan_Lassithi_4000_ybp
39.86464850Greece_EBA:Greece_EBA_Pta08
39.94054206Anatolia_EBA:MA2213_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp



Log04 and Log02 have a little bit of baltic in them , others do not
 
Target: Helladic_MBA:Log04
Distance: 2.4194% / 0.02419401
52.2 UKR_N_o
45.8 Yamnaya_UKR
1.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.8 GEO_CHG
0.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
0.0 IberomaurusianMAR_Taforalt
0.0 Indian
0.0 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Nganassan
0.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.0 West_African
0.0 WHG
 
Target: Helladic_MBA:Log02
Distance: 1.6277% / 0.01627748 | R3P
48.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
34.6 RUS_Afanasievo
17.4 BGR_Middle_C



Target: Helladic_MBA:Log04
Distance: 1.9000% / 0.01899977 | R3P
41.4 BGR_Middle_C
38.4 RUS_Catacomb
20.2 TUR_Kumtepe_N
 
Target: Helladic_MBA:Log04
Distance: 2.4194% / 0.02419401
52.2 UKR_N_o
45.8 Yamnaya_UKR
1.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.8 GEO_CHG
0.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
0.0 IberomaurusianMAR_Taforalt
0.0 Indian
0.0 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Nganassan
0.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.0 West_African
0.0 WHG

Whoever did that it's absolute nonsense. The highest steppe in these samples is 46%. What kind of junk are people passing around?
 
Code:
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=-webkit-standard]Eurogenes K15[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=-webkit-standard] Greece_MBA_Log02,15.11,18.45,7.99,3.31,20.66,10.7,19.07,2.98,0,0,0,0.67,1.03,0,0[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=-webkit-standard]Dodecad K12[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=-webkit-standard] Greece_MBA_Log02,2.53,0.15,1.68,0.18,32.54,23.27,0.11,0,8.18,0,29.93,1.43 [/FONT][/COLOR]

Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log02 (Eurogenes K15 Updated)
3.76558096Italy_Tuscany
3.77898134Tuscan
3.78802059Italy_Emiliaromagna
4.89200368Italy_Marche
5.33719964Italy_Lazio
5.63260153Italy_Liguria
6.26850062Albanian-Kosovo
6.87065499Albanian-North
7.36548709Albanian-South
7.36694645France_Corsica
7.57181249Kosovo_Albanian
7.88827611Albanian-Macedonia
8.87777562Italy_Friuli
9.21531877Italy_Lombardy
9.28511712Italy_Veneto
9.46489303Greek_Thessaly
10.48424055Macedonian_2
10.58160196Greek
10.64288201GR_Peloponese
10.76678225West_Sicilian
11.18683154French_Provence
11.20422688Sicily_Syracuse
11.53098001Italy_Abruzzo
11.71002562Sicily_Trapani
11.85638646Italy_Trentino
12.02191748Italy_Piedmont
12.05463811Italy_Apulia
12.61307699GR_Macedonia
12.61705592Central_Greek
12.67064324Sicily_Ragusa
12.81996880East_Sicilian
13.42595620Sicily_Caltanisetta
13.66946597Romania_South
13.74886637Macedonian
13.77379396Gagauz
13.80185857Sicily_Palermo
13.82074166Bulgarian
14.21634271Bulgarian_Thracian
14.24384779Sicily_Enna
14.27539842Italy_Campania
14.40676577Italy_Central_Sicily
14.53421481Romanian
14.74744309Montenegrin
14.80781888Italy_West_Sicily
14.81654818Sicily_Agrigento
14.84630594Ashkenazi
14.98650393South_Serbian
15.08337164Romania_Sw
15.16876396Romania_Se
15.49020336Sicily_Catania
16.24043411Sicily_Messina
16.26365273Portuguese
16.40358193Spanish_Extremadura
16.48697365Italy_East_Sicily
16.75862465Greek_Crete


Distance to:Greece_MBA_Log02 (Dodecad K12 Updated)
4.81965766Albanian
5.71058666Italian_Romagna
5.99226168Albanian_Kosovo
6.11173461Italian_Lazio
6.20779349Greek_Thessaly
6.38098738Greek_Thrace
6.47777307Italian_Marche
6.97821610Greek_Thessaloniki
7.55721510Italian_Tuscany
8.04519111Greek_Peloponnese
8.27799493Greek_Athens
8.32700426Greek_Central
8.62515507Italian_Emilia
8.92029708Bulgarian_Thrace
8.95997768Italian_Liguria
10.06699558Italian_Veneto
10.11353054Turk_Makedonya
10.38715553Italian_Abruzzo
10.47544825France_Corsica
10.83237278Italian_Lombardy
10.91127399Greek_Macedonia
11.03433278Italian_Friuli_VG
11.13983393Italian_Piedmont
11.20190609Italian_Apulia
11.33250193Greek_Foca
11.41070988Bulgarian_East
11.74533950MD_Gagauz
12.66728858Bulgarian_Central
12.82154047Greek_Lemnos
12.82877235Italian_Campania
13.14711755Bulgarian_West
13.39951492MD_South
13.45734744Pomak_Bulgaria
13.46283078Swiss_Italian
13.52902805Italian_Sicily
13.58800574Macedonian
13.79490848Italian_Trentino
13.95522125Romanian
14.21530161Pomak_Greece
14.28422206Turk_Trakya
14.59007539Turk_Deliorman
14.94003347Ashkenazi_Jews
15.22965200MD_Jewish
15.34918565Montenegrin
15.48070735Greek_Izmir
16.06448256Italian_Calabria
16.77191700Greek_Fournoi
17.50190561Italian_Aosta_Valley
17.95560358Greek_Crete
18.98602381Spanish_Canarias
19.11040816Serb
19.27879405Greek_Icaria
19.39444508Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
19.49657406Spanish_Baleares
19.70369762Italian_Jews
 
Eurogenes G25

Code:
 Scaled

Cycladic_EBA:Kou01,0.113823,0.176702,-0.018479,-0.088179,0.02462,-0.039602,-0.00094,-0.007154,0.011249,0.053942,0.008119,0.013788,-0.017542,0.012799,-0.026601,-0.016574,0.004955,0.004561,0.01169,-0.016133,-0.007736,-0.002968,0.000123,0.00723,-0.000479
Cycladic_EBA:Kou03,0.108132,0.159438,-0.02225,-0.07106,0.013233,-0.032351,-0.00517,-0.006231,0.000409,0.045377,0.005359,0.015586,-0.022299,-0.002477,-0.024565,0.003713,0.026468,0.00076,0.007416,-0.006878,-0.008859,-0.001484,0.002218,-0.001084,-0.006227
Helladic_MBA:Log02,0.117238,0.153345,0.01961,-0.019057,0.02739,-0.013945,-0.00235,-0.003461,0.003068,0.025878,-0.000162,0.005695,-0.015015,0.000275,-0.014251,-0.012596,-0.005476,0.00152,0.00264,-0.002126,-0.010357,0.000989,0.006286,-0.000602,-0.002754
Helladic_MBA:Log04,0.119514,0.141159,0.026776,-0.001292,0.01908,-0.001673,-0.00611,-0.002538,-0.007567,0.008018,0.003573,0.014687,-0.011744,0.001651,-0.003529,-0.011535,-0.004042,-0.002154,0.008799,-0.014632,-0.010606,0.004451,0.003451,0.005784,-0.005029
Helladic_EBA:Mik15,0.110408,0.176702,0.001131,-0.084949,0.030159,-0.031794,-0.002585,-0.004615,0.029042,0.065605,0.003085,0.009292,-0.019475,0.003716,-0.03013,-0.017502,0.008736,0.005194,0.009302,-0.017884,-0.009234,0.002349,-0.001849,0.006868,-0.004071
Minoan_EBA:Pta08,0.112685,0.168578,-0.018102,-0.089471,0.026774,-0.034861,0.00282,-0.003461,0.022702,0.057404,0.009256,0.008542,-0.018434,0.007569,-0.033251,-0.024529,0.000261,0.003421,0.009176,-0.009004,-0.008235,0.007543,-0.005053,-0.003253,0.002515

Distance to:Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.02523331Greek_Thessaly
0.02642431Italian_Tuscany
0.02680568Italian_Piedmont
0.02711457Italian_Lombardy
0.02791138Italian_Marche
0.02845305Italian_Liguria
0.02943631Albanian
0.03011735French_Corsica
0.03103996Italian_Umbria
0.03223088Greek_Macedonia
0.03232640Italian_Bergamo
0.03374879Italian_Lazio
0.03421376Greek_Peloponnese
0.03432588Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03546127Swiss_Italian
0.03594062Italian_Veneto
0.03611853Italian_Abruzzo
0.03699253Italian_Molise
0.03787082Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03938887Italian_Apulia
0.03939264Rumelia_East
0.03941018Macedonian:Central
0.04241476Greek_Izmir
0.04333878Greek_Laconia
0.04359595Italian_Northeast
0.04365836Italian_Basilicata
0.04399883Sicilian_West
0.04454211Macedonian:pelagonia1
0.04503405Spanish_Menorca
0.04545647Macedonian:Northwest
0.04546896Sicilian_East
0.04573501Macedonian:Southeast
0.04670852Gagauz
0.04707098Italian_Campania
0.04808248Macedonian:East2
0.04822838Spanish_Baleares
0.04848134Spanish_Eivissa
0.04869347Spanish_Mallorca
0.04899510Bulgarian
0.05088327French_Provence
0.05148620Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05202754Spanish_Murcia
0.05215984Maltese
0.05230830Italian_Calabria
0.05242603Spanish_Extremadura
0.05248531Spanish_Andalucia
0.05299183Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05301696Macedonian:East1
0.05333724Portuguese
0.05349866Romanian
0.05357838Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05361639Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.05416657Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05446682Ashkenazi_Russia
0.05449029Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona


Distance to:Helladic_MBA:Log04
0.03337994Macedonian:pelagonia1
0.03473317Greek_Thessaly
0.03494436Macedonian:East2
0.03679269Gagauz
0.03685512Greek_Macedonia
0.03807272Italian_Northeast
0.03838581Italian_Piedmont
0.03843968Albanian
0.03851571Bulgarian
0.03906968Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03926574Macedonian:Central
0.04001684Romanian
0.04047764Italian_Veneto
0.04068234Swiss_Italian
0.04084777Rumelia_East
0.04159919Italian_Liguria
0.04189718Italian_Lombardy
0.04201872Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04303498Italian_Bergamo
0.04311134Italian_Tuscany
0.04421022Macedonian:Northwest
0.04428248Macedonian:Southeast
0.04582923French_Provence
0.04667105Serbian
0.04674458Italian_Marche
0.04677877Montenegrin
0.04792880Greek_Peloponnese
0.04882086Macedonian:East1
0.04925889Italian_Umbria
0.05015927Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05172263Moldovan
0.05270845Spanish_Mallorca
0.05281949Swiss_French
0.05298287Italian_Molise
0.05363029Swiss_German
0.05375571Spanish_Baleares
0.05423592French_Corsica
0.05442753Spanish_Eivissa
0.05488245Turkish_Deliorman
0.05492221Spanish_Menorca
0.05512859Italian_Abruzzo
0.05517734French_Alsace
0.05583527French_Auvergne
0.05583557Italian_Lazio
0.05596100Greek_Izmir
0.05697630Spanish_Penedes
0.05707534Spanish_Girona
0.05788032Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05814320Bosnian
0.05855480Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05867200French_Nord
0.05915712Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05963272Italian_Apulia
0.06001138Spanish_Alacant
0.06004219French_Occitanie


Distance to:Cycladic_EBA:Kou01
0.07590415Cypriot_B
0.07604349Greek_Dodecanese
0.07669554Italian_Jew
0.07745765Romaniote_Jew
0.07783882Italian_Calabria
0.07869598Greek_Kos
0.07878945Italian_Campania
0.07989198Sephardic_Jew
0.07995099Sicilian_East
0.08036046Italian_Apulia
0.08055665Cypriot
0.08178649Italian_Basilicata
0.08308932Greek_Crete
0.08384985Ashkenazi_Germany
0.08536558Maltese
0.08647964Italian_Abruzzo
0.08746155Tunisian_Jew
0.08760472Italian_Molise
0.08791223Italian_Lazio
0.08946731Greek_Izmir
0.08951182Greek_Laconia
0.08964250Sicilian_West
0.09033844Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.09156203Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09175135Moroccan_Jew
0.09186866Libyan_Jew
0.09277910Italian_Marche
0.09306349Syrian_Jew
0.09313099Greek_Cappadocia
0.09336534Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.09350530Italian_Umbria
0.09351215Lebanese_Christian
0.09424352Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.09450008Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09526028Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09547685Greek_Peloponnese
0.09573638Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09625135Sardinian
0.09641683Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09743676French_Corsica
0.09822865Druze
0.09989781Italian_Tuscany
0.09991362Samaritan
0.10077235Lebanese_Druze
0.10085671Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.10103523Karaite_Egypt
0.10183466Greek_Thessaly
0.10509591Albanian
0.10728483Greek_Macedonia
0.10749670Lebanese_Muslim
0.10794570Italian_Piedmont
0.10909332Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.10959279Italian_Lombardy
0.11154791Rumelia_East
0.11165440Armenian_B


Distance to:Cycladic_EBA:Kou03
0.05204134Greek_Kos
0.05385652Greek_Dodecanese
0.05480986Cypriot_B
0.05680599Italian_Calabria
0.05856668Italian_Campania
0.05971432Romaniote_Jew
0.06059452Italian_Jew
0.06078801Italian_Basilicata
0.06180311Greek_Crete
0.06216075Italian_Apulia
0.06230512Cypriot
0.06317933Ashkenazi_Germany
0.06476211Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06480381Sephardic_Jew
0.06506609Sicilian_East
0.06632712Greek_Izmir
0.06704354Maltese
0.06706089Italian_Abruzzo
0.06824511Italian_Molise
0.06931194Greek_Laconia
0.07018232Italian_Lazio
0.07288819Italian_Umbria
0.07298538Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.07331913Greek_Cappadocia
0.07365125Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07366501Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.07405214Sicilian_West
0.07512460Syrian_Jew
0.07556403Moroccan_Jew
0.07595047Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07654973Italian_Marche
0.07661637Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07669265Greek_Peloponnese
0.07690939Tunisian_Jew
0.07785186Lebanese_Christian
0.07818188Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.07843023Libyan_Jew
0.07868837Druze
0.07884641Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.08174797Lebanese_Druze
0.08202996Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.08219148Italian_Tuscany
0.08333150French_Corsica
0.08456778Greek_Thessaly
0.08722587Karaite_Egypt
0.08742032Albanian
0.08838596Lebanese_Muslim
0.08881193Armenian_B
0.08979301Turkish_Trabzon
0.08989309Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.09064673Rumelia_East
0.09144232Greek_Macedonia
0.09260476Italian_Piedmont
0.09373045Greek_Trabzon
0.09511237Lebanese_Muslim_Shia


Distance to:Helladic_EBA:Mik15
0.07397421Sardinian
0.08414964Italian_Calabria
0.08465636Italian_Campania
0.08497520Italian_Jew
0.08526022Sicilian_East
0.08537033Italian_Apulia
0.08669518Italian_Basilicata
0.08765681Italian_Lazio
0.08867735Maltese
0.08882200Romaniote_Jew
0.08947458Sephardic_Jew
0.08948834Greek_Dodecanese
0.08964486Italian_Abruzzo
0.09044171French_Corsica
0.09055579Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09057000Sicilian_West
0.09070700Italian_Molise
0.09142735Greek_Kos
0.09187913Greek_Laconia
0.09247294Cypriot_B
0.09293438Italian_Umbria
0.09307799Italian_Marche
0.09320012Greek_Crete
0.09488329Greek_Izmir
0.09614535Tunisian_Jew
0.09696668Cypriot
0.09702718Moroccan_Jew
0.09716544Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09758630Italian_Tuscany
0.09794467Greek_Peloponnese
0.09956599Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.10035030Libyan_Jew
0.10063262Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.10146093Ashkenazi_Russia
0.10161478Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.10237677Greek_Thessaly
0.10369462Italian_Lombardy
0.10406674Italian_Piedmont
0.10462846Albanian
0.10603333Italian_Bergamo
0.10814912Syrian_Jew
0.10872759Italian_Liguria
0.10878346Greek_Macedonia
0.10913322Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.10916323Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.10961357Swiss_Italian
0.11083834Lebanese_Christian
0.11182549Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.11260793Greek_Cappadocia
0.11270585Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.11304394Rumelia_East
0.11393672Italian_Veneto
0.11495301Spanish_Menorca
0.11551928Druze
0.11587821Palestinian_Beit_Sahour


Distance to:Minoan_EBA:pta08
0.07794846Italian_Jew
0.07888632Romaniote_Jew
0.07966648Greek_Dodecanese
0.08001202Cypriot_B
0.08029646Italian_Calabria
0.08085760Sicilian_East
0.08124932Italian_Campania
0.08180170Sephardic_Jew
0.08291480Italian_Apulia
0.08321596Greek_Kos
0.08375053Cypriot
0.08429738Italian_Basilicata
0.08538057Ashkenazi_Germany
0.08657638Greek_Crete
0.08690987Maltese
0.08819190Tunisian_Jew
0.08870051Italian_Abruzzo
0.08913941Italian_Lazio
0.08930199Sicilian_West
0.08979417Italian_Molise
0.08995290Sardinian
0.09259749Greek_Izmir
0.09262980Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09272088Greek_Laconia
0.09292286Libyan_Jew
0.09328395Moroccan_Jew
0.09466288Italian_Marche
0.09557428Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09570491Italian_Umbria
0.09610834Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.09641777Syrian_Jew
0.09658196Lebanese_Christian
0.09668734Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09685229Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.09729297French_Corsica
0.09743143Greek_Cappadocia
0.09753704Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09762716Greek_Peloponnese
0.09768439Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09775410Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.10103884Samaritan
0.10129367Druze
0.10154348Italian_Tuscany
0.10283865Karaite_Egypt
0.10395822Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.10400532Greek_Thessaly
0.10421546Lebanese_Druze
0.10661488Albanian
0.10867229Greek_Macedonia
0.10892293Italian_Piedmont
0.10960258Lebanese_Muslim
0.10964491Italian_Lombardy
0.11079269Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.11351051Italian_Bergamo
0.11352478Italian_Liguria
 
Target: Helladic_MBA:Log02
Distance: 2.8273% / 0.02827337 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.6Anatolia_Barcin_N
34.8Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.6WHG


Target: Helladic_MBA:Log04
Distance: 3.2335% / 0.03233510 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.2Anatolia_Barcin_N
45.8Yamnaya_RUS_Samara


Target: Cycladic_EBA:Kou01
Distance: 3.2808% / 0.03280773 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.0Anatolia_Barcin_N
8.2GEO_CHG
7.8IRN_Wezmeh_N


Target: Cycladic_EBA:Kou03
Distance: 1.6772% / 0.01677226 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.6Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.2IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
9.2GEO_CHG
5.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara



Target: Helladic_EBA:Mik15
Distance: 2.7598% / 0.02759813 | ADC: 0.25x RC
88.6Anatolia_Barcin_N
6.8Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.6IRN_Wezmeh_N


Target: Minoan_EBA:pta08
Distance: 3.0579% / 0.03057867 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.0Anatolia_Barcin_N
8.8GEO_CHG
5.2IRN_Wezmeh_N
4.0Levant_Natufian
 
mine using G25 scaled

Distance to:
0.03616684Helladic_MBA__Log04_scaled
0.03786616Helladic_MBA__Log02_scaled
0.11499904Cycladic_EBA__Kou03_scaled
0.11871845Helladic_EBA__Mik15_scaled
0.12309355Minoan_EBA__Pta08_scaled
0.12395859Cycladic_EBA__Kou01_scaled





according to others Log02 is

Helladic_MBA__Log02 can be modeled as:
50.00 % HUN_Protoboleraz_LCA__I2791
+ 25.00 % TUR_Ikiztepe_LC__IKI009
+ 25.00 % Corded_Ware_Baltic_early__I4629 0.016017
 
It's very odd. I'm assuming that's based on coordinates from the paper. It would be helpful if someone would provide them because I can't find an archaeological site named Logkas anywhere in Macedonia.

The closest I come is Logas in northern Corfu where there is indeed a Middle Bronze Age site.

Maybe it's a very new site and so isn't yet on any list of archaeological sites in Macedonia. What I did find is the arrival of Mycenaean artifacts in the Late Bronze Age, perhaps indicating influence from the south.

https://archeorient.hypotheses.org/11282

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0006:entry=kerkyra
 
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