I have created a page dedicated the the genetics of ancient Gauls. I calculated the Dodecad K12b average percentages for 16 Gaulish samples and ran them against modern populations in Vahaduo to obtain the closest matches.
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I have created a page dedicated the the genetics of ancient Gauls. I calculated the Dodecad K12b average percentages for 16 Gaulish samples and ran them against modern populations in Vahaduo to obtain the closest matches.
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Congratulations Maciamo. Yes, very nice analysis for the ancient GauIs. I believe that Vahaduo Dodecad K12b can be a good calculator in most situations, especially if the miscegenation degree of the analyzed individual is not very high, which implies a greater correspondence of the individual percentages with the clusters of eachethnic group in populations spreadsheet. In my case, Portuguese and Iberian ancestry is evidenced with a the add of a small part of African ancestry, probably from slaves arrived in Brazil from Angola. The modern MTA calculator seems comes a little closer to the results of the EU K15, IMO.
Vahaduo modern Dodecad K12b:
Single:
Distance to: Duarte 4.86428823 Portuguese 5.60963457 Spanish_Canarias 6.56048779 Spanish_Castilla-Leon 6.81144625 Spanish_Galicia 7.27809041 Spanish_Valencia 7.42806839 Spanish_Andalusia 7.74020026 Spanish_Baleares 8.34568751 Spanish_Asturias 8.43749370 Spanish_Catalonia 8.88155955 Spanish_Aragon 9.45535298 Spanish_Cantabria 10.56102268 Italian_Aosta_Valley 11.58249973 Spanish_La_Rioja 12.25061274 Swiss_Italian 12.33901941 Italian_Piedmont 12.77031715 Italian_Lombardy 12.98469869 Italian_Trentino 13.73355380 Italian_Liguria 13.90171572 Italian_Veneto 14.54954295 Italian_Emilia 14.56949896 French_Southwest 15.16802558 Italian_Friuli_VG 15.94834788 Italian_Tuscany 16.19828386 French_Corsica 16.20948796 French_Northeast
2way mix:
Target: Duarte
Distance: 3.3272% / 3.32716206 | R2P96.5 Portuguese 3.5 Bantu_S.E._Tswana
Target: Duarte
Distance: 3.3850% / 3.38503466 | R2P96.8 Portuguese 3.2 Mandenka
3way mix:
Target: Duarte
Distance: 2.2211% / 2.22110742 | R3P59.2 Portuguese 35.6 Spanish_Aragon 5.2 Luhya
Target: Duarte
Distance: 2.3115% / 2.31152646 | R3P
62.1 Portuguese 33.2 Spanish_Aragon 4.7 Bantu_S.E._Tswana
Modern MTA:
Your closest genetic modern populations...
Info
1. Portuguese (6.307)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (7.061)
3. Spanish_Galicia (7.266)
4. Spanish_Cantabria (7.592)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.609)
6. Spanish_Murcia (7.860)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.977)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.082)
Last edited by Duarte; 04-03-21 at 05:11.
Here is a Dodecad K12b PCA I had made of Bronze Age and Iron Age French samples compared to other ancient groups:
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Nice work Maciamo and Jovialis: Thanks Duarte for sharing your results: My top 25 distances (gradiant 50) for modern using Dodecad K12 (Vahaduo): Dodecad K7 has the Ancient Roman samples by Cluster (i.e. C1, C2...C6..C7) which I think Jovialis worked on if I remember correctly. Is there similar clustering of the Ancient Roman samples from Antonio et al 2019 in Dodecad K12? I know using K7, I get strong clustering with the C6 cluster that Jovialis is showing in his PCA which I also get with Modern Italian samples in Dodecad K12 Modern and Ancient single. I would think those Dodecad K12 matches are in the C6 cluster using Dodecad K12 as well.
Distance to: PalermoTrapani 3.55695094 Italian_Campania 3.83109645 Italian_Abruzzo 4.03399306 Italian_Sicily 5.85703850 Italian_Calabria 6.29590343 Italian_Apulia 6.47651913 Ashkenazi_Jews 7.04365275 Italian_Marche 7.18862991 MD_Jewish 7.65706210 Italian_Lazio 7.90179726 Greek_Lemnos 8.92854971 Italian_Jews 9.03374230 Greek_Foca 9.04327927 Greek_Athens 9.04979005 Greek_Central 9.35666073 Greek_Fournoi 9.70223686 Greek_Izmir 10.45749014 Italian_Romagna 10.57145212 Greek_Crete 10.81484165 Greek_Peloponnese 11.64560432 Sephardic_Jews 11.69138999 Greek_Icaria 11.84918563 Albanian 12.07460558 Greek_Kos 12.38930587 Greek_Thrace 12.53945374 Morocco_Jews
top 25 Ancient:
Distance to: PalermoTrapani 2.59038607 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 2.76190152 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 3.27177322 R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia 3.34701359 R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio 3.84983117 R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 4.10471680 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche 4.16370028 R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 4.18976133 R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata 4.32090268 R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti 4.40341913 Szolad40 4.54783465 R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis 4.57668002 R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia 4.82952379 R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 4.83867751 R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 5.03103369 R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche 5.08341421 Collegno121 5.10995108 R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 5.30245226 R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis 5.32897739 R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 5.43089311 R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti 5.46635162 R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna 5.50746766 R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia 5.68175149 R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi 5.70777540 R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis 5.90403252 R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 03-03-21 at 19:27. Reason: additional information
Interesting, Maciamo.
I notice in LN Switzerland, the Aesch25 (the only Y-R1b there and the late of the site) with 54,8% of 'north-euro', 19,8% 'gedrosia', a very reduced % of 'atlant-med', and 0% of 'NW-Africa' and Caucasus.
in other places, where I notice too some heterogeneity, we see the same link between 'north-euro' and 'gedrosia'; K12b is a special way (based on modern pops) to analyse admixture, and the opposition 'caucasus'-'gedrosia' has been criticised by someones, but I find all that very interesting, before to read it more serously. Thanks.
You speak of heterogeneity among Gauls, but the period of the highest heterogeneity is the BB's one, not surprising; after, it tends to homogenise progressively; all the way I wonder if the elite's exogamy doesn't explain the lasting of some heterogeneity; Celts were dominant tribes upon "loosers" before they underwent osmosis, and the DNA we have is I think rather the elite's one.