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  1. #226
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    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Distance to: Torziok12b
    5.32530750 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    6.46840011 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    7.93611996 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.83276287 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.58380926 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    9.76980041 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    11.45072923 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.79564750 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    13.59802927 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    13.72095113 Latins_(n=4)
    14.38534671 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    14.46272104 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    14.51663529 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.64978594 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    16.26212471 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    17.79364774 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    17.83940302 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    18.06710824 Imperial_Roman_Marche_(n=2)
    18.08538360 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.27350267 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    18.80015160 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    19.61592210 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    19.75143539 Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26)
    20.34056538 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    20.37132298 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)



    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 1.0790% / 1.07896228 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.1 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    32.4 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    32.4 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    2.1 Avars_(n=2)
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4p
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

  2. #227
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    Distance to: Torziok12b
    0.96235572 30.80% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7) + 69.20% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.28275078 26.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24) + 74.00% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.32009497 67.80% Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13) + 32.20% Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
    1.32271482 38.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 61.40% Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
    1.36758056 30.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) + 69.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.41204789 44.60% Imperial_Roman_Marche_(n=2) + 55.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.42057771 30.40% Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6) + 69.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.42644518 64.20% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7) + 35.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.43970424 47.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 53.00% Battle-Axe_culture_(n=3)
    1.47469894 23.60% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 76.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.61329492 33.60% Roman_Britain_(n=8) + 66.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.64160044 20.00% Iron_Age_Briton_(n=2) + 80.00% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.64679071 54.40% Bell_Beaker_Netherlands_(n=7) + 45.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.65219103 32.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24) + 68.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.69887007 51.00% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 49.00% MBA_Sintashta_culture_(n=4)
    1.70260430 44.80% Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6) + 55.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.71723077 23.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2) + 76.40% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.72693236 24.00% Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26) + 76.00% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.73022344 53.00% Imperial_Roman_Marche_(n=2) + 47.00% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.73354583 39.20% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 60.80% Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
    1.77260423 47.60% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 52.40% Battle-Axe_culture_(n=3)
    1.77296129 31.80% Iron_Age_Briton_(n=2) + 68.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.77723273 36.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 64.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.78402180 49.00% EMBA_Greece_(n=6) + 51.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24)
    1.79906282 39.60% Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20) + 60.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    @Maciamo

    Salento posted these coordinates in another thread. These are five medieval samples from Foggia, that were used in the recent paper on Viking DNA.

    Code:
    VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
    VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
    VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30
    
    Medieval_Foggia_(n=5),5.884,0.562,3.818,0.492,27.974,19.278,0.19,0.47,10.484,0.346,29.06,1.442

  4. #229
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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Here are my results with the inclusion of Medieval Foggia:




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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Although the Italian-Greeks are now below the Imperial Roman Marche (and Foggia), they still dominate the 2Way :)

    ... with the extra Foggia VKs averaged by Jovialis:




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    2 members found this post helpful.
    with Salento vikings included


    Distance to: Torziok12b
    5.32530750 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    6.35530487 VK538_Dod_K12b
    6.46840011 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    7.93611996 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.83276287 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.58380926 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    9.76980041 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    11.45072923 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.79564750 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    13.59802927 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    13.72095113 Latins_(n=4)
    14.38534671 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    14.46272104 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    14.51663529 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.19033719 Medieval_Foggia_(n=5)
    15.64978594 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    15.88170331 VK536_Dod_K12b
    16.26212471 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    17.79364774 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    17.83940302 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    18.06710824 Imperial_Roman_Marche_(n=2)
    18.08538360 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.27350267 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    18.80015160 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    19.09991361 VK535_Dod_K12b


    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 1.1308% / 1.13083207 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.0 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    31.8 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    28.8 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    6.4 VK538_Dod_K12b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have added:

    - Late Antiquity Latium : most similar to modern Marche (1.4), Lazio (2.2) and Romagna (4.3).
    - Early Medieval Latium : most similar to modern Romagna (2.8), Marche (3.3) and Lazio (4.1).
    - Late Medieval Latium : most similar to modern Romagna (4.3), Tuscany (4.5) and Emilia (4.8).

    Using the 2WAY percentages with the Iron Age populations as sources, we get:

    - Late Antiquity Latium : 69.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 31.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) => distance = 1.75
    - Early Medieval Latium : 63.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 37.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) => distance = 3.5
    - Late Medieval Latium: 51.60% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 48.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) => distance = 1.27

    So the Latium got more Celtic-like and less Greek-like over time between 300 and 1500 CE.
    Here are my results using just the Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) components:


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    @Maciamo

    https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/anc...analyzer.shtml

    Excellent work on the new information page! I am just seeing it this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Here are my results using just the Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) components:

    Here are the original Dodecad K12b modern Italian samples using these two components. I actually get the best fit for this combination out of all of them:


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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    with Salento vikings included


    Distance to: Torziok12b
    5.32530750 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    6.35530487 VK538_Dod_K12b
    6.46840011 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    7.93611996 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.83276287 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.58380926 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    9.76980041 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    11.45072923 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.79564750 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    13.59802927 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    13.72095113 Latins_(n=4)
    14.38534671 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    14.46272104 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    14.51663529 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.19033719 Medieval_Foggia_(n=5)
    15.64978594 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    15.88170331 VK536_Dod_K12b
    16.26212471 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    17.79364774 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    17.83940302 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    18.06710824 Imperial_Roman_Marche_(n=2)
    18.08538360 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.27350267 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    18.80015160 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    19.09991361 VK535_Dod_K12b


    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 1.1308% / 1.13083207 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.0 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    31.8 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    28.8 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    6.4 VK538_Dod_K12b
    That makes sense, VK538 matches close to people from your region. He was possibly a Northern Italian migrant to Foggia. They all seem to match up with all different parts of Italy, and one Greco-Anatolian (though genetically, I believe Foca matches more with Greek Islanders) :

    Distance to: VK538_Dod_K12b
    4.96578292 Italian_Friuli_VG
    7.14699937 Montenegrin
    7.32195329 Macedonian
    7.48015374 Romanian
    7.80994878 Moldovan_South
    8.07792052 Italian_Trentino
    8.10242556 Italian_Veneto
    8.35226915 Bulgarian_West
    8.88132873 Italian_Piedmont
    8.89524030 Bulgarian_Central


    Distance to: VK537_Dod_K12b
    3.86817787 Italian_Apulia
    4.69266449 Italian_Sicily
    4.75513407 Italian_Abruzzo
    5.58225761 Greek_Lemnos
    5.79400552 Greek_Athens
    5.83847583 Moldovan_Jewish
    6.09016420 Greek_Foca
    6.09776188 Greek_Central
    6.09782748 Italian_Campania
    6.13282154 Ashkenazi_Jews


    Distance to: VK536_Dod_K12b
    4.17846910 Italian_Marche
    5.09452647 Italian_Lazio
    5.84702488 Italian_Abruzzo
    6.79721266 Italian_Romagna
    7.73720234 Italian_Campania
    7.93807911 Italian_Sicily
    8.38227893 Italian_Apulia
    8.90838930 French_Corsica
    9.03142846 Greek_Central
    9.17369609 Greek_Athens


    Distance to: VK535_Dod_K12b
    5.55576277 Italian_Sicily
    6.13741802 Italian_Abruzzo
    6.87211758 Italian_Apulia
    7.38840308 Italian_Campania
    8.12213026 Moldovan_Jewish
    8.15900729 Greek_Lemnos
    8.33353466 Italian_Lazio
    8.47961674 Italian_Calabria
    8.48138550 Ashkenazi_Jews
    8.64601666 Italian_Marche


    Distance to: VK534_Dod_K12b
    5.14979611 Greek_Foca
    5.17923740 Greek_Izmir
    5.55867790 Moldovan_Jewish
    5.61911025 Greek_Fournoi
    6.14069214 Greek_Lemnos
    6.14123766 Ashkenazi_Jews
    6.16033278 Italian_Apulia
    6.56028201 Greek_Crete
    7.00554066 Greek_Athens
    7.82819264 Italian_Sicily

  11. #236
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    With latest updates (including Salento Vikings)

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    2.44000000 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    5.56800682 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    5.98677710 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    7.55611011 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    8.90949494 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    9.05316519 Villanovans_(n=2)
    9.86080626 VK538_Dod_K12b
    10.02239991 VK536_Dod_K12b
    11.05727815 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.97150784 Imperial_Roman_Marche_(n=2)
    12.65941547 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    12.74250760 VK537_Dod_K12b
    13.59450257 VK535_Dod_K12b
    14.29163392 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    15.88332774 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    16.57576846 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    16.98754544 Latins_(n=4)
    17.47864983 VK534_Dod_K12b
    18.57900428 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    19.17563558 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    19.70430156 EMBA_Greece_(n=6)
    20.27443217 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    21.15670816 Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    21.25037647 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    21.28523432 Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)

    2 way mode

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    1.00751716 46.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 53.20% Imperial_Roman_Latium_(n=46)
    1.21333868 86.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 13.20% Avars_(n=2)
    1.31544663 8.00% Neolithic_Lithuania_Narva_culture_(n=4) + 92.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.33787616 89.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 10.40% Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    1.38828111 9.20% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8) + 90.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.40308287 8.40% Baltic_Bronze_Age_(n=12) + 91.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.41632842 7.80% Mesolithic_Baltic_Scandinavia_(SHG)_(n=31) + 92.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.41891825 90.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 10.00% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    1.43379052 8.40% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16) + 91.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.46155456 8.60% Mesolithic_Balkans_HG_(n=43) + 91.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.48323132 75.60% VK538_Dod_K12b + 24.40% Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.51060219 58.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 41.80% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.51727246 35.40% VK538_Dod_K12b + 64.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.53056178 7.40% Neolithic_Ukraine_(n=12) + 92.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.57977958 42.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 58.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.61842251 7.20% Mesolithic_Ukraine_(n=7) + 92.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.67295690 9.80% Eastern_Corded_Ware_(n=8) + 90.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.69980595 12.60% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18) + 87.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.71689479 11.60% Western_Corded_Ware_(n=17) + 88.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.75369272 68.40% VK538_Dod_K12b + 31.60% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    1.78727890 9.60% Mesolithic_West_Europeans_(WHG)_(n=21) + 90.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.85385340 6.80% Mesolithic_Northwest_Russia_(n=4) + 93.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.86953183 11.00% MBA_Sintashta_culture_(n=4) + 89.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.87517081 87.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 13.00% Swedish_Vikings_(n=23)
    1.91828818 10.20% MBA_Andronovo_culture_(n=3) + 89.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)

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    Distance to: adam
    1.62732947 12.40% MBA_Andronovo_culture_(n=3) + 87.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.70435013 11.80% Eastern_Corded_Ware_(n=8) + 88.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.76028510 13.20% LBA_Srubna_culture_(n=27) + 86.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.80257233 13.40% Western_Corded_Ware_(n=17) + 86.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.84609547 13.60% EBA_Fatyanovo_culture_(n=18) + 86.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.05589682 12.60% MBA_Sintashta_culture_(n=4) + 87.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.09850862 9.60% Chalcolithic_Pontic_Steppe_(n=3) + 90.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.10746976 25.60% Chalcolithic_Azerbaijan_(n=4) + 74.40% Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    2.15575732 11.20% CA_Afanasievo_culture_(n=5) + 88.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.23297559 10.00% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Caucasus_(n=7) + 90.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.24471958 9.20% EMBA_Catacomb_culture_(n=4) + 90.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.25933500 88.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 11.40% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    2.29014277 8.00% Khvalynsk_culture_(n=3) + 92.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.29093942 77.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 22.60% Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    2.29801510 13.40% Battle-Axe_culture_(n=3) + 86.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.30020019 9.20% Yamna_culture_(n=16) + 90.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.30378107 28.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 72.00% Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    2.37895044 43.20% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 56.80% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    2.39388029 12.20% EMBA_Poltavka_culture_(n=8) + 87.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.40549926 89.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 10.80% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8)
    2.46062004 10.00% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16) + 90.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.46210138 13.60% Bell_Beaker_Netherlands_(n=7) + 86.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.46689399 13.40% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18) + 86.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.49123012 86.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 14.00% Avars_(n=2)
    2.50199465 10.20% Baltic_Bronze_Age_(n=12) + 89.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    Last edited by kingjohn; 23-04-21 at 21:43.
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    Updated data posts #7 and #228

    ‘Tab’ DISTANCE

    Distance to: Duarte
    6.17150711 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    6.71266713 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    10.86048341 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.27186764 Latins_(n=4)
    12.12435978 Villanovans_(n=2)
    13.33091895 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    14.03098001 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    14.05696980 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    14.52055095 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    14.84792915 Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7)
    15.13849068 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    15.21667178 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    15.30209790 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.31625933 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
    16.25126149 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38)
    16.54298643 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    16.76632041 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    16.97283712 VK538_Dod_K12b
    17.46561765 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.85846229 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    18.93396947 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    20.69150309 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
    20.72670500 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    20.81037962 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    20.83913626 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)

    ‘Tab’ SINGLE modes 2P, 3P, 4P, 5P

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 1.9308% / 1.93082214 | R5P
    35.6 MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6)
    28.8 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    19.0 CA_Remedello_culture_(n=3)
    12.5 Epipaleolithic_Mesolithic_Caucasus_(CHG)_(n=2)
    4.1 Epipaleolithic_Magreb_(Iberomaurusians)_(n=5)

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 2.7007% / 2.70065754 | R4P
    61.5 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
    27.1 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    8.2 Epipaleolithic_Mesolithic_Caucasus_(CHG)_(n=2)
    3.2 Epipaleolithic_Magreb_(Iberomaurusians)_(n=5)

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 3.2519% / 3.25189654 | R3P
    39.2 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    33.5 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    27.3 Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11)

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 4.6642% / 4.66417136 | R2P
    52.4 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    47.6 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)

    ‘Tab’ 2WAY


    Distance to: Duarte
    4.66417136 47.60% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 52.40% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    4.85328375 49.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5) + 51.00% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.04636530 24.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 76.00% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.18746490 22.80% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 77.20% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.19626512 42.80% Chalcolithic_BB_Sardinia_(n=10) + 57.20% Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    5.42021978 20.60% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 79.40% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.51279033 82.40% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9) + 17.60% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.55329431 48.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 51.60% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.63868310 8.20% Chalcolithic_BB_Sardinia_(n=10) + 91.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.66006917 11.00% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11) + 89.00% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.66539760 11.80% Chalcolithic_Iberia_(n=59) + 88.20% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.67109585 5.80% Early_Medieval_Canaries_(n=5) + 94.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.73086346 6.00% Early_Neolithic_Spain_(n=10) + 94.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.73125619 6.40% Middle_Neolithic_Sardinia_(n=10) + 93.60% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.75815472 2.80% Epipaleolithic_Magreb_(Iberomaurusians)_(n=5) + 97.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.77419747 6.80% Middle_Late_Neolithic_Spain_(n=12) + 93.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.78241084 7.40% Chalcolithic_Iberia_(n=59) + 92.60% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.78342255 6.60% Nuragic_Sardinia_(n=13) + 93.40% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.78479561 6.80% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11) + 93.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.80845669 7.60% Late_Neolithic_Switzerland_(n=58) + 92.40% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.81063741 32.40% MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6) + 67.60% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.81619145 6.00% Early_Neolithic_Maghreb_(n=1) + 94.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.81776672 7.20% Neolithic_Britain_(n=62) + 92.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.81831970 13.20% Globular_Amphora_culture_(n=6) + 86.80% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.82309411 8.20% Megalithic_Europe_(n=24) + 91.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)




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    Gauls_Belgae were similar to northern French and Belgians.

    Distance to: Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    3.27513359 French_Northeast
    3.36928776 French_North
    6.04354201 Belgian
    7.12039325 Bavarian_German
    8.27548790 French_Northwest
    8.87670547 English_South
    9.12361770 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    9.19177350 English
    10.24426669 English_North
    10.47489379 Dutch
    11.00746111 Scottish
    11.17647082 Spanish_Baleares
    11.36626148 Spanish_Catalonia
    11.67295164 Irish
    12.00030833 Spanish_Galicia
    12.02735216 Italian_Trentino
    12.31614794 Spanish_Cantabria
    12.71287930 Portuguese
    12.77105321 Spanish_Valencia
    12.85402661 Spanish_Castilla-Leon
    12.93511935 Swiss_Italian
    12.97283315 German_Northwest
    13.76174044 Spanish_Aragon
    14.00625575 Spanish_Andalusia
    14.47539637 Icelandic
    14.79743221 Italian_Friuli_VG
    14.85032660 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    14.86095555 German
    15.02124828 Spanish_La_Rioja
    15.17341425 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Budapest
    15.57698944 Danish
    15.60496716 Italian_Piedmont
    15.61843462 Hungarian
    15.62655432 Spanish_Canarias
    15.79226710 French_Southwest
    15.91934986 Italian_Veneto
    15.96793036 Slovenian
    16.03879983 Spanish_Asturias
    16.13017979 Hungarian_Alfold
    16.82593237 Italian_Lombardy
    17.29393824 Swedish
    17.34651550 Czech
    17.37266243 Hungarian_North
    17.39517749 Croat
    17.47359150 Serb
    18.29234813 Montenegrin
    18.51457264 Bosnian
    19.12355354 Italian_Liguria
    19.26440240 Moldovan_Central
    19.79404961 Macedonian
    19.89611771 Romanian
    19.91964357 Italian_Emilia
    19.92098642 Slovak
    20.10846339 Moldovan_North
    20.56818174 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    20.68462472 Moldovan_South
    21.35327610 Bulgarian_West
    21.63510573 Italian_Tuscany
    22.23124153 Bulgarian_Central
    22.35721807 Sorb_Lusatia
    22.56263504 Pomak_Bulgaria
    22.64237620 Spanish_Basque
    23.49864251 Greek_Macedonia
    23.60112497 Moldovan_Gagauz
    23.62294012 Albanian_Kosovo



    Italian_Greeks were similar to Southern Italians from Calabria and to a lesser extent to Greek Islanders.

    Distance to: Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.72985549 Italian_Calabria
    3.93148827 Ashkenazi_Jews
    4.19735631 Italian_Campania
    4.64249933 Greek_Fournoi
    4.70212718 Italian_Sicily
    4.87755061 Moldovan_Jewish
    5.23575209 Italian_Jews
    5.39548886 Greek_Icaria
    5.55410659 Greek_Crete
    5.72305862 Greek_Kos
    5.78000865 Greek_Izmir
    6.19436034 Greek_Rhodes
    6.72196400 Sephardic_Jews
    7.22768289 Italian_Abruzzo
    7.36824945 Italian_Apulia
    7.62758809 Greek_Lemnos
    8.60718305 Greek_Foca
    10.39280520 Morocco_Jews
    10.66021107 Turk_Cyprus
    10.66674271 Greek_Athens
    11.06855908 Greek_Central
    12.81808036 Italian_Marche
    13.10058014 Greek_Cypriot
    13.17385669 Italian_Lazio
    13.20435913 Greek_Peloponnese
    15.09033797 Albanian
    15.69383956 Greek_Cappadocia
    15.76718111 Greek_Thrace
    15.98947466 Greek_Thessaloniki
    16.33869640 Italian_Romagna
    16.35213136 Turk_West_BlackSea
    16.42134891 Greek_Thessaly
    17.26822226 Turk_Central_West
    17.38638835 Nusayri_Turkey
    17.64441838 Bulgarian_Thrace

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    I made a two-way model (Dodecad K12b) for modern Italians: Iron Age Italy and Italian Greeks. Iron Age Italy is the combination of all Iron Age samples from Italy (Latins, Etruscans, Villanovans). For some regions (e.g. Friuli, Trentino, Aosta) this two-way model does not work well.


    Italian_Friuli_VG

    8.63834693 96.20% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 3.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Trentino

    9.81171221 83.80% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 16.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Aosta_Valley


    9.67365724 94.00% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 6.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Veneto

    5.64463343 95.20% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 4.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Lombardy

    2.74327779 97.00% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 3.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Piedmont

    5.01524145 96.60% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 3.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Liguria

    2.93306853 85.60% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 14.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Emilia

    3.24133432 82.40% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 17.60% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Romagna

    2.96459059 63.60% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 36.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Tuscany


    2.98115887 75.40% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 24.60% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Marche


    2.44168786 49.80% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 50.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Lazio

    3.91432277 49.80% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 50.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Abruzzo

    2.95584812 26.20% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 73.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Campania

    1.38228087 15.80% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 84.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Apulia

    5.36190973 20.00% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 80.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Calabria

    1.48756179 3.60% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 96.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)


    Italian_Sicily

    3.07384805 14.60% Iron_Age_Italy_(n=9) + 85.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    That makes sense, VK538 matches close to people from your region. He was possibly a Northern Italian migrant to Foggia. They all seem to match up with all different parts of Italy, and one Greco-Anatolian (though genetically, I believe Foca matches more with Greek Islanders) :

    Distance to: VK538_Dod_K12b
    4.96578292 Italian_Friuli_VG
    7.14699937 Montenegrin
    7.32195329 Macedonian
    7.48015374 Romanian
    7.80994878 Moldovan_South
    8.07792052 Italian_Trentino
    8.10242556 Italian_Veneto
    8.35226915 Bulgarian_West
    8.88132873 Italian_Piedmont
    8.89524030 Bulgarian_Central


    Distance to: VK537_Dod_K12b
    3.86817787 Italian_Apulia
    4.69266449 Italian_Sicily
    4.75513407 Italian_Abruzzo
    5.58225761 Greek_Lemnos
    5.79400552 Greek_Athens
    5.83847583 Moldovan_Jewish
    6.09016420 Greek_Foca
    6.09776188 Greek_Central
    6.09782748 Italian_Campania
    6.13282154 Ashkenazi_Jews


    Distance to: VK536_Dod_K12b
    4.17846910 Italian_Marche
    5.09452647 Italian_Lazio
    5.84702488 Italian_Abruzzo
    6.79721266 Italian_Romagna
    7.73720234 Italian_Campania
    7.93807911 Italian_Sicily
    8.38227893 Italian_Apulia
    8.90838930 French_Corsica
    9.03142846 Greek_Central
    9.17369609 Greek_Athens


    Distance to: VK535_Dod_K12b
    5.55576277 Italian_Sicily
    6.13741802 Italian_Abruzzo
    6.87211758 Italian_Apulia
    7.38840308 Italian_Campania
    8.12213026 Moldovan_Jewish
    8.15900729 Greek_Lemnos
    8.33353466 Italian_Lazio
    8.47961674 Italian_Calabria
    8.48138550 Ashkenazi_Jews
    8.64601666 Italian_Marche


    Distance to: VK534_Dod_K12b
    5.14979611 Greek_Foca
    5.17923740 Greek_Izmir
    5.55867790 Moldovan_Jewish
    5.61911025 Greek_Fournoi
    6.14069214 Greek_Lemnos
    6.14123766 Ashkenazi_Jews
    6.16033278 Italian_Apulia
    6.56028201 Greek_Crete
    7.00554066 Greek_Athens
    7.82819264 Italian_Sicily
    thanks ......I thought so as you commented

    to conclude ...............in all of these tests in this thread, conclusion is that Illyrians and bronze-age hungarians match and are the same people ...........and they cam via central europe and that these "foggia" vikings came from same area, some moving north to scandinavia and others south into the balkans and italy

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    I have added the 6th-century samples from Collegno, Piedmont from the Lombard study.

    Using all samples (Italians, Lombards and mixed), the closest modern populations are Friuli (6.3), Trentino (7.2) and Aosta Valley (7.9).

    Taking into account only samples that seemed to be Italian with no Germanic ancestry, the closest populations are Abruzzo (4.0), Marche (5.8), Lazio, Campania and Sicily (all three around 6.0).
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    ^^Great update!

    Here are my results, I get a good fit with the 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7) cohort:


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    Update #242

    Distance to: Duarte
    6.17150711 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    6.71266713 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    10.86048341 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.27186764 Latins_(n=4)
    12.12435978 Villanovans_(n=2)
    13.33091895 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    14.03098001 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    14.05696980 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    14.52055095 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    14.84792915 Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7)
    15.04884381 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    15.13849068 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    15.21667178 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    15.30209790 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.31625933 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
    16.25126149 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38)
    16.54298643 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    16.76632041 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    17.46561765 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.85846229 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    18.93396947 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    20.69150309 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
    20.72670500 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    20.81037962 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    20.83913626 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)



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    With info from post 242 added...mine is


    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 1.0953% / 1.09528753 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.0 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    27.4 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    22.7 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    16.9
    6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    ^^Great update!

    Here are my results, I get a good fit with the 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7) cohort:

    PCA with the new additions for Italy:


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    Updates from Maciamo post #242.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    3.68146710 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    4.53751033 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    6.36689877 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    6.83698764 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    7.26249957 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    9.26208940 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    10.19573931 EMBA_Greece_(n=6)
    10.67402923 Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    12.65821867 Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    13.66139085 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    17.50304259 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    17.97204496 Etruscans_(n=3)
    18.78715785 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    19.21764814 Villanovans_(n=2)
    19.47868835 Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)
    19.82548864 Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)
    20.30116992 Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    20.65298526 Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)
    20.75404539 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)
    20.80088940 Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
    20.96465359 Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)
    21.32149151 Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)
    21.65835174 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    23.41742941 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)
    23.99095455 Chalcolithic_North_Levant_(n=6)


    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    1.29635535 12.40% Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Levant_(n=15) + 87.60% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.34711932 37.20% Etruscans_(n=3) + 62.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.47263743 70.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 30.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    1.52103949 76.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 23.60% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    1.68356643 78.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 21.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    1.68535366 21.60% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 78.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.70103503 17.20% MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6) + 82.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.73156316 67.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 32.80% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    1.73926973 6.60% Epipaleolithic_Levant_(Natufians)_(n=6) + 93.40% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.79832498 15.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 85.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.86990984 43.40% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 56.60% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    1.87882759 14.80% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 85.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.93276489 73.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 26.80% Etruscans_(n=3)
    1.93685948 36.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 63.40% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    1.95239942 49.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 51.00% Latins_(n=4)
    1.98124270 23.20% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5) + 76.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.04416652 19.00% Iron_Age_Israel_(n=6) + 81.00% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    2.06501846 39.60% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 60.40% Etruscans_(n=3)
    2.06555158 21.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 78.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.06923576 48.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 52.00% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    2.09155085 44.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=4) + 56.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    2.09986582 22.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 78.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.12734473 16.40% Early-Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=9) + 83.60% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    2.13023398 46.80% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 53.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    2.17237856 14.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 85.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)

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    Distance to: italouruguayan


    11.56324781 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    13.80911655 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    14.69083047 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    16.23768764 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    16.25998155 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    16.91561409 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    17.20738795 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    17.22619517 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    17.28995084 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    17.89198424 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    18.33555017 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    18.58682060 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    19.14316327 Villanovans_(n=2)
    19.72882916 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    19.86298819 Etruscans_(n=3)
    20.81990874 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    21.62285365 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    21.86751929 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    21.99280109 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    22.57669816 Cimmerians_(n=6)
    22.99249008 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    23.87470209 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    24.40309612 Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26)
    24.58744802 Latins_(n=4)
    25.13049741 Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
    25.24729094 Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)
    25.33739134 Suebi_Alemmani_(n=20)
    26.52373842 Iron_Age_Kangju_(n=4)
    26.82286897 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    27.12488894 Roman_Britain_(n=8)
    27.15390580 Lombards_(n=28)
    27.68604522 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)

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    Late Antique and Middle Ages



    Clearly Lombardic which is a such a NW Germanic population so makes sense imo.

    In the earlier past the results are more blurred imo....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have added the 6th-century samples from Collegno, Piedmont from the Lombard study.

    Using all samples (Italians, Lombards and mixed), the closest modern populations are Friuli (6.3), Trentino (7.2) and Aosta Valley (7.9).

    Taking into account only samples that seemed to be Italian with no Germanic ancestry, the closest populations are Abruzzo (4.0), Marche (5.8), Lazio, Campania and Sicily (all three around 6.0).
    This sample is also extremely close to Imperial-Age_Marche_(n=2).

    As well as pretty close to the Iron Age R437:

    Distance to: C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe_o)_Palestrina_Selicata
    5.31416974 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    6.72588284 EMBA_Greece_(n=6)
    6.90958754 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    7.04519695 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    8.27300429 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    8.83409871 Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    10.38617832 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    10.40333120 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    10.92016026 Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    15.54221992 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    16.33827714 Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)
    16.75771763 Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    17.52457132 Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)
    17.57787530 Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)
    18.16961750 Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)
    18.19599956 Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
    18.28769805 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    18.51004592 Etruscans_(n=3)
    18.79689868 Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)
    19.54934782 Villanovans_(n=2)
    20.24499444 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)
    20.83053768 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    21.05738825 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)
    21.74766884 LN_Lengyel_culture_(n=8)
    22.59695776 Chalcolithic_North_Levant_(n=6)

    These samples exist within the light-blue cohort labeled C6.

    Rather than attributing it totally to Greeks, could it be possible that this is indicative of a native pre-Italic ancestry?


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