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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    for some context: Norman Kings were born in my town (Lecce, Salento, Puglia), and there are towns founded by the Normans,
    on the Two Way top results, as my secondary group, I don’t get a gradual northerly shift, … it goes to Scandinavia bypassing Central Europe.

    My Genomelink Viking index is more or less inline with my Two Way top results. It also shows a similar cline, I am more closely related to northern (Scandinavian) Vikings than southern.


    those normans came out of Norman-Sicily trying to take albania from the byzantines.........the failed attempt must have led the normans to take some R and R in beautiful apulia
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    those normans came out of Norman-Sicily trying to take albania from the byzantines.........the failed attempt must have led the normans to take some R and R in beautiful apulia
    … actually they've been in Puglia for a few generations, the last Norman King of Sicily was Tancred of Lecce.
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    To change the subject, where exactly do the North_Italian and Tuscan HGDP samples come from? Bergamo? Florence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallicanus View Post
    To change the subject, where exactly do the North_Italian and Tuscan HGDP samples come from? Bergamo? Florence?
    I've answered this many times before. According to CEPH coordinates, North Italian HGDP = Bergamo HGDP (North Italian HGDP and Bergamo HGDP are the same thing, it's a set of 13/14 individuals), and the coordinates point to Seriana Valley (Val Seriana in Bergamo province), so Prealps. According to CEPH coordinates Tuscan HGDP (a set of 8 individuals) points to Colline Metallifere in Grosseto province, so southern-western Tuscany.

    HGDP-CEPH Human Genome Diversity Cell Line Panel

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    those normans came out of Norman-Sicily trying to take albania from the byzantines.........the failed attempt must have led the normans to take some R and R in beautiful apulia
    @Torzio … they were not passing-by riders, but settlers.

    … The discovery that traces of Viking DNA are still present today in the Apulian population …

    … The Normans, a population of Viking descent, settled in Puglia during the Middle Ages …

    https://wonderwhy.it/la-vera-identit...ntata-dal-dna/

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    Super interesting thread this - Many thanks for your work Maciamo!

    My results...

    Distance to: Richard
    6.40219494 Iron_Age_Britons_(n=4)
    6.47072639 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    7.53434138 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    8.05877162 Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26)
    8.39280049 Roman_Britain_(n=8)
    9.88607101 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24)
    10.33107932 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    10.34098641 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    10.53766103 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    10.54057399 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    10.69832230 Anglo-Saxons_(n=4)
    11.41404836 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    11.61816251 Vikings_from_England_(n=28)
    12.24416187 Lombards_(n=28)
    12.54466819 Early_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=28)
    12.71875780 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
    12.82490546 Bell_Beaker_Britain_(n=27)
    12.92967904 Danish_Vikings_(n=21)
    12.96795281 Iron_Age_Denmark_(n=10)
    13.20199985 Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)
    13.28435546 Suebi_Alemmani_(n=20)
    14.83124742 MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6)
    15.10268850 Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
    15.42317412 Norwegian_Vikings_(n=12)
    15.67476635 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    15.74842214 Iron_Age_Sweden_(n=4)
    16.43308857 Nordic_Bronze_Age_(n=14)
    17.13496717 Bell_Beaker_Netherlands_(n=7)
    17.58236332 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    17.75675083 Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1)
    17.76394945 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    18.09436100 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
    18.39899454 Swedish_Vikings_(n=23)
    18.60466339 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    19.39697399 EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    19.73050937 Battle-Axe_culture_(n=3)
    19.76129550 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    19.91960843 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    20.12736446 Iron_Age_Norway_(n=6)
    20.39372698 Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7)

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    All these results are really good, but I have absolutely no idea how to 'translate' them wrt what is shows of my ancestry, if anything.

    So, looking at my results in the post above - how should I read how they describe or define 'me'?

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    I have started calculating the K12b average of populations tested by Patterson et al. 2021. There are over 800 genomes so it's going to take time.

    Tumulus culture 1600-1200 BCE (n=4)
    Distance to: MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    1.86791327 French_Normandie
    2.41236399 Belgian_average
    3.28112785 Belgian_Wallonia
    3.30603993 Belgian_mixed
    3.64654631 French_North
    4.24736389 French_Northeast
    4.28307133 French_Bretagne
    4.42453387 Belgian_Flanders
    5.47127956 French_Northwest
    5.71448160 English_South

    This Middle Bronze Age culture from the north of the Alps was very similar to modern Belgian and North French people.

    Hallstatt culture (1200-500 BCE) (n=12)

    Distance to: Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    3.36511515 French_Normandie
    3.82134793 Belgian_Wallonia
    4.54057265 Belgian_mixed
    4.63450105 French_Northeast
    4.77596064 French_North
    4.81742670 French_Bretagne
    4.84986598 Belgian_average
    6.34616420 French_South
    6.59771172 French
    6.99194537 German_Bavaria

    The Tumulus culture was succeeded by the Hallstatt culture, which spanned from the Late Bronze Age to Early Iron Age. We can see the genetic continuity.

    La Tène Celts from Central Europe (450-50 BCE) (n=55)

    Distance to: La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    1.93842720 Belgian_average
    2.29305473 Belgian_mixed
    3.38725553 French_Normandie
    3.74615803 French_Bretagne
    3.82584631 Belgian_Flanders
    3.88808436 Belgian_Wallonia
    4.01884312 French_North
    4.16618531 French_Northeast
    4.20378401 German_Bavaria
    5.72878696 Dutch

    Hallstatt was succeeded by La Tène. The La Tène expansion took over the whole of Gaul, but the samples here are from Austria, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary. Yet they are genetically almost identical to modern Belgians. It's not surprising as the geographic origins of the La Tène culture ranged from Alsace to Belgium, along the Rhine and Meuse valleys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have started calculating the K12b average of populations tested by Patterson et al. 2021. There are over 800 genomes so it's going to take time.

    Tumulus culture 1600-1200 BCE (n=4)
    Distance to: MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    1.86791327 French_Normandie
    2.41236399 Belgian_average
    3.28112785 Belgian_Wallonia
    3.30603993 Belgian_mixed
    3.64654631 French_North
    4.24736389 French_Northeast
    4.28307133 French_Bretagne
    4.42453387 Belgian_Flanders
    5.47127956 French_Northwest
    5.71448160 English_South

    This Middle Bronze Age culture from the north of the Alps was very similar to modern Belgian and North French people.

    Hallstatt culture (1200-500 BCE) (n=12)

    Distance to: Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    3.36511515 French_Normandie
    3.82134793 Belgian_Wallonia
    4.54057265 Belgian_mixed
    4.63450105 French_Northeast
    4.77596064 French_North
    4.81742670 French_Bretagne
    4.84986598 Belgian_average
    6.34616420 French_South
    6.59771172 French
    6.99194537 German_Bavaria

    The Tumulus culture was succeeded by the Hallstatt culture, which spanned from the Late Bronze Age to Early Iron Age. We can see the genetic continuity.

    La Tène Celts from Central Europe (450-50 BCE) (n=55)

    Distance to: La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    1.93842720 Belgian_average
    2.29305473 Belgian_mixed
    3.38725553 French_Normandie
    3.74615803 French_Bretagne
    3.82584631 Belgian_Flanders
    3.88808436 Belgian_Wallonia
    4.01884312 French_North
    4.16618531 French_Northeast
    4.20378401 German_Bavaria
    5.72878696 Dutch

    Hallstatt was succeeded by La Tène. The La Tène expansion took over the whole of Gaul, but the samples here are from Austria, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary. Yet they are genetically almost identical to modern Belgians. It's not surprising as the geographic origins of the La Tène culture ranged from Alsace to Belgium, along the Rhine and Meuse valleys.
    Neat.

    Would be interesting to use the AC-BC mode on Vahaduo to see which component would be needed to shift said population where it is, in reference to a) the modern people living in the territory of the abovementioned cultures b) the modern populations scoring the highest in the above models.
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    Great work Maciamo! I look forward to seeing the rest of the samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have started calculating the K12b average of populations tested by Patterson et al. 2021. There are over 800 genomes so it's going to take time.

    Tumulus culture 1600-1200 BCE (n=4)
    Distance to: MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    1.86791327 French_Normandie
    2.41236399 Belgian_average
    3.28112785 Belgian_Wallonia
    3.30603993 Belgian_mixed
    3.64654631 French_North
    4.24736389 French_Northeast
    4.28307133 French_Bretagne
    4.42453387 Belgian_Flanders
    5.47127956 French_Northwest
    5.71448160 English_South

    This Middle Bronze Age culture from the north of the Alps was very similar to modern Belgian and North French people.

    Hallstatt culture (1200-500 BCE) (n=12)

    Distance to: Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    3.36511515 French_Normandie
    3.82134793 Belgian_Wallonia
    4.54057265 Belgian_mixed
    4.63450105 French_Northeast
    4.77596064 French_North
    4.81742670 French_Bretagne
    4.84986598 Belgian_average
    6.34616420 French_South
    6.59771172 French
    6.99194537 German_Bavaria

    The Tumulus culture was succeeded by the Hallstatt culture, which spanned from the Late Bronze Age to Early Iron Age. We can see the genetic continuity.

    La Tène Celts from Central Europe (450-50 BCE) (n=55)

    Distance to: La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    1.93842720 Belgian_average
    2.29305473 Belgian_mixed
    3.38725553 French_Normandie
    3.74615803 French_Bretagne
    3.82584631 Belgian_Flanders
    3.88808436 Belgian_Wallonia
    4.01884312 French_North
    4.16618531 French_Northeast
    4.20378401 German_Bavaria
    5.72878696 Dutch

    Hallstatt was succeeded by La Tène. The La Tène expansion took over the whole of Gaul, but the samples here are from Austria, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary. Yet they are genetically almost identical to modern Belgians. It's not surprising as the geographic origins of the La Tène culture ranged from Alsace to Belgium, along the Rhine and Meuse valleys.
    interesting that the modern central europeans aren't closer. is this because those regions are nowadays more southern/eastern shifted or maybe because those samples are only from the elite of that time while the common people were different?

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    4 members found this post helpful.
    I have just added these:

    Early Iron Age Croatia (750-600 BCE)

    Distance to: Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    2.83058298 Swiss_Italian
    3.47106612 Italian_Trentino
    3.53571775 Italian_Lombardy
    3.56795460 Italian_Piedmont
    3.97366330 Italian_Veneto
    5.01514706 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    6.24753551 Italian_Friuli_VG
    6.29325035 Italian_Liguria
    6.69997761 Italian_Emilia
    7.00375614 Spanish_Baleares
    8.51084602 Italian_Tuscany
    9.99144134 Spanish_Castilla-Leon
    10.01344097 Portuguese
    10.27997568 Spanish_Valencia
    10.32603506 Spanish_Catalonia

    Similar to Late Bronze Age Croatia and to ancient Romans/Italics. Closest to modern North Italians.

    Early Iron Age Hungary (750-550 BCE)

    Distance to: Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    4.56799737 German_Bavaria
    5.08180086 Belgian_mixed
    5.97977424 French_Bretagne
    6.64220596 French_Northeast
    6.95240246 Belgian_average
    7.48322123 Belgian_Wallonia
    7.59679538 French_North
    7.65504409 French_Normandie
    8.34980239 Austrian
    9.33625728 Belgian_Flanders
    10.20457250 French_South
    10.24349550 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    10.54671987 Hungarian
    10.58289185 Italian_Trentino
    10.68169462 Dutch

    Strong Celtic influence already in the Early Iron Age, which would further increase in the Late Iron Age (La Tène), as we have seen above.

    Iron Age Netherlands (600-0 BCE)

    Distance to: Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    2.81817317 German_Northwest
    3.64554523 Icelandic
    4.36874124 Dutch
    4.63766105 German
    5.33819258 Dutch_Frisia
    5.50960071 English_North
    5.64025709 Scottish
    6.07415838 English_South
    6.34811783 Belgian_Flanders
    6.35255067 Irish
    6.99798542 French_Northwest
    9.33842599 English_Kent_1KG
    9.59563442 French_FrenchFlanders
    9.59705163 Belgian_average
    10.26558815 Austrian

    Germanic people from Scandinavia expanded towards North Germany and the Netherlands between 500 and 250 BCE. In this period all samples already appear quite Germanic and not very different from modern (northern) Dutch and NW Germans.

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    Early Iron Age Slovenia (700-400 BCE)

    Distance to: Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    2.35070202 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    5.08041337 Italian_Trentino
    5.38496982 French_Auvergne
    5.40013889 Swiss_Italian
    5.57656704 French_South
    5.65203503 Spanish_Baleares
    7.75159983 Spanish_Catalonia
    8.65611922 Italian_Piedmont
    8.69804576 Spanish_Valencia
    8.69962068 Spanish_Castilla-Leon
    8.91347856 French_Bretagne
    8.94704979 Italian_Veneto
    9.16831500 Italian_Lombardy
    9.19947825 Italian_Friuli_VG
    9.22994583 French_Northeast
    9.41752621 Spanish_Galicia
    9.51401598 Portuguese
    9.62593372 Belgian_Wallonia
    9.68178186 Spanish_Cantabria
    10.02819525 French_North
    10.29290047 German_Bavaria
    10.50303290 Spanish_Aragon
    10.71872194 Spanish_Andalusia
    10.74691118 Swiss_Geneva
    10.77209822 Belgian_mixed

    Similar to EIA Croatia but more shifted toward the Alps and the South of France.

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    My results with the new updates. Thak you , Maciamo.

    Distance to: italouruguayan

    11.56324781 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    13.80911655 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    14.69083047 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    16.23768764 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    16.25998155 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    16.91561409 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    17.20738795 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_ (n = 5)
    17.22619517 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    17.28995084 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    17.87656846 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    17.89198424 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_ (n = 9)
    18.33555017 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    18.58682060 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    19.03316579 Medieval_Basilicata_ (n = 10)
    19.12385421 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    19.14316327 Villanovans_(n=2)
    19,40467469 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    19.41398465 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    19.55606300 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    19.72882916 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    20.81990874 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    21.62285365 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    21.86751929 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)

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    my results after latest update

    Distance to: Torziok12b
    4.93252471 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    5.32530750 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    6.19887086 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    6.46840011 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    7.93611996 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.63517805 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    8.83276287 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.58380926 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    9.76980041 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    11.13904394 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    11.79564750 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    11.90092433 Etruscans_(n=48)
    12.70354675 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    13.59802927 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    13.63916053 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    13.72095113 Latins_(n=4)
    14.38534671 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    14.46272104 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    14.51663529 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.18951941 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    15.49905158 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    15.64978594 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    16.26212471 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    16.33994186 La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    17.09693832 MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)



    2 way .................all over the place
    Distance to: Torziok12b
    0.96235572 30.80% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7) + 69.20% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.21708578 40.40% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 59.60% Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    1.28275078 26.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24) + 74.00% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.28723505 48.60% Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6) + 51.40% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.29338977 51.40% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4) + 48.60% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.32009497 67.80% Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13) + 32.20% Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
    1.32106066 40.80% Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26) + 59.20% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.32271482 38.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 61.40% Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
    1.33298971 36.80% Iron_Age_Britons_(n=4) + 63.20% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.36758056 30.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) + 69.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.41204789 44.60% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2) + 55.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.42057771 30.40% Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6) + 69.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.42644518 64.20% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7) + 35.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.43970424 47.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 53.00% Battle-Axe_culture_(n=3)
    1.47469894 23.60% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 76.40% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.54670488 46.20% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2) + 53.80% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.55218859 52.80% Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=14) + 47.20% Western_Corded_Ware_(n=17)
    1.58061234 16.00% Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=14) + 84.00% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    1.61329492 66.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 33.60% Roman_Britain_(n=8)
    1.62100759 26.80% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4) + 73.20% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.62339551 14.60% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 85.40% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    1.63696416 54.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 45.80% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    1.64679071 54.40% Bell_Beaker_Netherlands_(n=7) + 45.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.65219103 32.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24) + 68.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.65221278 43.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24) + 57.00% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)

  16. #416
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    G2a-Z1903>>PF6863
    MtDNA haplogroup
    HV16

    Ethnic group
    Italian, English, Irish
    Country: United States



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Using the new data, I ran both my mother's results and my own. She is entirely British Isles, specifically, half Irish and half Yorkshire ancestry. Her closest match is Lombards, followed closely by Roman Britain. My father is 100% Calabrian, but doesn't deign to have his DNA tested. I of course am a mix of the two parents.

    Distance to: mom
    3.55571371 Lombards_(n=28)
    3.62236111 Roman_Britain_(n=8)
    4.01823344 Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26)
    4.20792110 Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)
    4.48555459 Danish_Vikings_(n=21)
    4.56640997 Iron_Age_Britons_(n=4)
    5.05610522 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24)
    5.09970587 Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    5.48790488 Vikings_from_England_(n=28)
    5.71654616 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    6.65844576 La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    6.65859595 MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    6.81284816 Anglo-Saxons_(n=4)
    6.86239754 Suebi_Alemmani_(n=20)
    6.92838365 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    7.05641552 Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
    7.38272307 Iron_Age_Denmark_(n=10)
    7.38603412 Early_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=28)
    7.90494149 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    8.09662893 Bell_Beaker_Britain_(n=27)
    8.97302067 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    9.91293095 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    10.27226363 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    10.34740064 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    10.46379472 Swedish_Vikings_(n=23)

    Distance to: dominic
    4.96833976 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    8.33547839 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    8.33887882 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.58299536 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    9.82643883 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    11.38652713 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    11.91365183 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    12.06227176 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    12.36386671 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    12.68729286 Villanovans_(n=2)
    13.01456492 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    13.39107539 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    13.77112559 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    14.26108341 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    14.36009401 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    15.04534479 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    15.16733991 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    15.38591239 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    15.45989974 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    15.50872335 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    16.22455238 La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    16.45694382 Etruscans_(n=48)
    16.60457467 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    16.68201427 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    17.32628350 MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)

    Distance to: mom
    1.90104401 6.40% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11) + 93.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.94139389 6.00% CA_Remedello_culture_(n=3) + 94.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.99050989 12.20% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5) + 87.80% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.00594376 62.20% Battle-Axe_culture_(n=3) + 37.80% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    2.01496107 10.60% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 89.40% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.03610326 9.40% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 90.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.05016651 6.40% Chalcolithic_Spain_(n=60) + 93.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.09787614 29.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 70.20% Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    2.09977850 54.60% MBA_Sintashta_culture_(n=4) + 45.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    2.10039805 7.20% Globular_Amphora_culture_(n=6) + 92.80% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.10352484 18.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5) + 82.00% Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    2.12617369 5.60% Middle_Late_Neolithic_Spain_(n=12) + 94.40% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.13147815 9.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 90.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.13936686 5.80% Middle-Late_Neolithic_Portugal_(n=4) + 94.20% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.15009465 56.40% Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6) + 43.60% Nordic_Bronze_Age_(n=14)
    2.15099235 6.00% Neolithic_Britain_(n=62) + 94.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.16022928 6.00% Chalcolithic_Portugal_(n=11) + 94.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.16727388 6.00% Late_Neolithic_Switzerland_(n=58) + 94.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.17905816 8.40% Middle_Bronze_Age_Portugal_(n=4) + 91.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.19444822 5.00% Middle_Neolithic_Sardinia_(n=10) + 95.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.19687532 5.20% Nuragic_Sardinia_(n=13) + 94.80% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.22321708 26.80% Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24) + 73.20% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.22394335 6.40% Megalithic_Europe_(n=24) + 93.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.22901151 21.60% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7) + 78.40% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.24841268 4.60% Early_Neolithic_Spain_(n=10) + 95.40% Lombards_(n=28)

    Distance to: dominic
    1.70068214 42.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 57.60% Roman_Britain_(n=8)
    1.77866442 53.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24) + 47.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.89953002 34.80% Bell_Beaker_Netherlands_(n=7) + 65.20% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    1.92974347 42.20% Bell_Beaker_Britain_(n=27) + 57.80% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.93179788 45.60% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 54.40% Roman_Britain_(n=8)
    1.93867039 43.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=28) + 57.00% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    2.00342697 8.80% Chalcolithic_Azerbaijan_(n=4) + 91.20% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    2.01417693 44.20% Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5) + 55.80% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    2.03057946 41.80% Early_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=28) + 58.20% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    2.05246831 50.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 49.80% Anglo-Saxons_(n=4)
    2.05780208 41.00% Bell_Beaker_Britain_(n=27) + 59.00% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    2.07499868 32.40% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 67.60% Iron_Age_Britons_(n=4)
    2.14318629 43.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 57.00% Iron_Age_Britons_(n=4)
    2.18231543 56.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24) + 44.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.20726415 43.40% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24) + 56.60% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    2.21818459 59.80% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7) + 40.20% Anglo-Saxons_(n=4)
    2.22320575 55.40% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7) + 44.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    2.22397589 50.40% Bell_Beaker_Britain_(n=27) + 49.60% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.22666888 64.40% Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20) + 35.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    2.22810111 31.20% Early_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=4) + 68.80% Iron_Age_Britons_(n=4)
    2.24695111 24.00% Kura-Araxes_culture_(n=8) + 76.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    2.24947311 44.60% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=24) + 55.40% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    2.25569030 51.20% Early_Bronze_Age_Britain_(n=28) + 48.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    2.25936001 52.20% Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20) + 47.80% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    2.26263533 47.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 52.80% Anglo-Saxons_(n=4)

  17. #417
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    my father numbers

    Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
    1.00389945 28.60% Nordic_Bronze_Age_(n=14) + 71.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.19865410 37.80% Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20) + 62.20% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.21310809 45.80% La_Tène_Celts_(n=55) + 54.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.26108710 26.40% Chalcolithic_North_Levant_(n=6) + 73.60% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    1.38775692 31.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 69.00% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.39564225 35.60% Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20) + 64.40% Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)
    1.45187767 45.40% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 54.60% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    1.45703347 35.80% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2) + 64.20% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.45751495 36.80% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 63.20% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.48682921 33.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 66.20% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.48872393 29.40% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 70.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.49160073 18.80% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 81.20% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.50668391 44.60% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4) + 55.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.50882597 36.60% Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20) + 63.40% Danish_Vikings_(n=21)
    1.53930914 30.80% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 69.20% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    1.58481315 30.60% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 69.40% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.61041980 22.40% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 77.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.62585712 48.60% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4) + 51.40% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.62726510 36.40% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 63.60% Danish_Vikings_(n=21)
    1.63068175 51.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2) + 48.40% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.71091353 21.40% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 78.60% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.73418768 21.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=4) + 78.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.74923613 64.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 36.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.75852080 46.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23) + 53.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.77023868 41.40% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2) + 58.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)



    Target: Ponsan_K12b
    Distance: 25.1385% / 0.25138546
    30.0 Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    15.6 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    9.2 Early_Neolithic_France_(n=4)
    6.8 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
    5.8 Early-Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=9)
    5.8 Neolithic_Lithuania_Narva_culture_(n=4)
    4.8 Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35)
    4.8 Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    4.2 Chalcolithic_North_Levant_(n=6)
    3.0 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    2.8 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.6 Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.2 Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
    1.2 MN_Vinca_culture_(n=6)
    1.0 Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)
    0.8 Iron_Age_Armenia_(n=7)
    0.6 Chalcolithic_Azerbaijan_(n=4)
    0.2 CA_Afanasievo_culture_(n=5)
    0.2 Chalcolithic_Northwest_Caucasus_(n=3)
    0.2 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    0.2 Late_Bronze_Age_North_Caucasus_(n=4)



    Distance to: Ponsan_K12b
    5.49286810 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    6.01870418 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    6.39941404 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    7.66512231 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    7.90473276 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    8.28037439 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.70974741 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.03701278 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    9.10329061 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    9.62883170 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    10.86827953 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    11.62867146 Etruscans_(n=48)
    12.76489326 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    13.19541208 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    13.63991202 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    13.67783974 Latins_(n=4)
    13.85478618 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    13.97096274 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    14.93179494 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    15.01443972 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    15.08288765 La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    15.70286280 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    15.79124758 MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    16.13783753 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    16.36747690 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)

  18. #418
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    1st cousin in Trentino ...from sister line of my paternal grandfather

    Distance to: TrentinoCles
    3.13482057 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    5.83890401 Villanovans_(n=2)
    6.10347442 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    6.79513061 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    8.33524445 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    10.52804350 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    10.90298124 Etruscans_(n=48)
    11.21687122 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    11.72499467 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    12.04986307 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    12.34738029 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    12.73217185 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    13.23675564 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    13.30812909 Latins_(n=4)
    13.97320650 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    14.99738977 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    15.18600342 Medieval_Basilicata_(n=10)
    15.43010693 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    15.54832467 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    16.35610284 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    17.63395588 Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    17.71318718 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    18.41030146 Middle_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy_(n=9)
    18.62196821 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    19.03681433 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)

  19. #419
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    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    1st cousin of my paternal side via grandmother line .......ydna I1

    Distance to: ScallywagK12b
    4.95456355 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    5.35770473 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    6.26125387 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    6.81455061 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    7.78089326 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.21688505 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    9.06613479 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    9.48521481 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    9.82516667 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    10.22576159 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    11.64465113 Etruscans_(n=48)
    11.91347137 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    11.94597003 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    13.60472712 Latins_(n=4)
    13.92384286 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    13.99483833 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    14.13477273 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    14.26629945 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    14.43961911 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    14.96820965 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    15.47996124 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    15.95268629 La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    16.00410260 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    16.18546879 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    16.70265248 MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)


    Distance to: ScallywagK12b
    1.05200231 31.00% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2) + 69.00% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.07481306 45.40% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4) + 54.60% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.14528879 25.40% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 74.60% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.16592236 44.60% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2) + 55.40% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.21233783 37.00% Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20) + 63.00% Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)
    1.23093108 63.20% Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15) + 36.80% Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.26468208 32.20% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) + 67.80% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.26515163 23.00% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 77.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.30448196 42.60% La_Tène_Celts_(n=55) + 57.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.36910628 40.00% Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20) + 60.00% Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    1.41879263 39.20% Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20) + 60.80% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.43930751 33.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 66.80% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.44222315 34.80% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 65.20% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.45239495 46.60% La_Tène_Celts_(n=55) + 53.40% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.45487457 40.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 60.00% Iron_Age_Netherlands_(n=5)
    1.45862014 66.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 33.60% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.47561323 16.00% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 84.00% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.48817671 36.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 63.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.50197377 28.60% MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4) + 71.40% Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    1.54356793 46.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 54.00% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    1.56701180 39.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 61.00% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.57806834 24.00% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 76.00% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.58227847 48.20% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2) + 51.80% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.61210069 37.80% Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26) + 62.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.62211423 49.60% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16) + 50.40% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)

  20. #420
    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    Country: Australia



    1 members found this post helpful.
    removing all the AD samples and only using BC ones

    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 116.0605% / 1.16060544 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.6 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    29.2 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    8.6 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    4.4 Iron_Age_Armenia_(n=7)
    2.2 Epipaleolithic_Levant_(Natufians)_(n=6)


    Distance to: Torziok12b
    4.93252471 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    5.32530750 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    7.93611996 Villanovans_(n=2)
    8.63517805 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    8.83276287 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    11.13904394 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    11.90092433 Etruscans_(n=48)
    12.70354675 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    14.38534671 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    14.46272104 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
    15.49905158 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    15.64978594 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    16.26212471 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    16.33994186 La_Tène_Celts_(n=55)
    17.09693832 MBA_Tumulus_culture_(n=4)
    17.83940302 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
    18.08538360 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.27350267 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    18.80015160 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    19.50209220 Middle_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy_(n=9)
    19.61592210 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    19.75143539 Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26)
    20.37132298 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
    21.52223037 Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)

  21. #421
    Satyavrata Maciamo's Avatar
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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Here is the average for the 37 samples from Early Iron Age Britain (600-400 BCE).

    Distance to: Early_Iron_Age_Britain_(n=37)
    1.98073219 French_FrenchFlanders
    2.77602233 French_Northwest
    3.54295075 English_South
    3.83846323 Scottish
    3.88332332 English_North
    3.99540987 English_Kent_1KG
    4.10285267 Irish
    5.58969588 Belgian_Flanders
    5.73317539 English_Cornwall_1KG
    6.21379916 British
    6.37330370 Dutch_Frisia
    6.39633489 French_Normandie
    6.55961127 Belgian_average
    6.99621326 Belgian_Wallonia
    7.07876402 French_North

  22. #422
    Regular Member Stuvanè's Avatar
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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J2
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1e

    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: Italy



    No substantial changes for me

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    2.44000000 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    5.56800682 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    5.98677710 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    7.17117145 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    7.55611011 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    8.90949494 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    9.05316519 Villanovans_(n=2)
    9.79013789 Early_Iron_Age_Croatia_(n=9)
    11.15952956 Medieval_Basilicata_(n=10)
    11.89520071 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    11.97150784 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    12.46981957 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
    12.65941547 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    13.83990607 Etruscans_(n=48)
    14.29163392 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    14.33619894 Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    14.81254536 Early_Iron_Age_Slovenia_(n=10)
    15.88332774 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
    16.54552810 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)
    16.57576846 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    16.98754544 Latins_(n=4)
    18.30430277 Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9)
    18.57900428 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    19.17563558 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    19.70430156 EMBA_Greece_(n=6)

    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 1.7423% / 1.74230116 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    53.7 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    35.9 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    10.4 Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23)



    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 1.0570% / 1.05704240 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    61.7 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    28.8 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    8.0 Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    1.5 Chalcolithic_Israel


    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    1.00751716 46.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 53.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.13891506 28.00% Early_Iron_Age_Hungary_(n=9) + 72.00% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.21333868 86.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 13.20% Avars_(n=2)
    1.31544663 8.00% Neolithic_Lithuania_Narva_culture_(n=4) + 92.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.33787616 89.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 10.40% Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    1.38280652 53.80% Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23) + 46.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.38828111 9.20% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8) + 90.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.39666581 87.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 12.80% Vikings_from_Poland_(n=9)
    1.39843341 30.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23) + 70.00% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.40308287 8.40% Baltic_Bronze_Age_(n=12) + 91.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.40399532 86.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 13.40% Vikings_from_Ukraine_(n=4)
    1.41632842 7.80% Mesolithic_Baltic_Scandinavia_(SHG)_(n=31) + 92.20% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.41891825 90.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 10.00% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    1.43379052 8.40% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16) + 91.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.46155456 8.60% Mesolithic_Balkans_HG_(n=43) + 91.40% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.52904928 58.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23) + 41.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.53487951 31.60% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 68.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.54010003 7.40% Neolithic_Ukraine_(n=12) + 92.60% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.56920293 87.00% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5) + 13.00% Vikings_from_Russia_(n=15)
    1.57589108 41.80% Early_Bronze_Age_Serbia_(n=23) + 58.20% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.57964586 14.40% Chalcolithic_Romania_(n=1) + 85.60% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.57977958 42.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 58.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.61842251 7.20% Mesolithic_Ukraine_(n=7) + 92.80% Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    1.61962629 12.40% Mesolithic_West_Europeans_(WHG)_(n=21) + 87.60% Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    1.62514635 53.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 46.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)

  23. #423
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    My top 25 Distances.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
    2.21022623 Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    3.69576785 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    4.04279606 Medieval_Basilicata_(n=10)
    4.56704500 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    6.40511514 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
    6.82852107 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    6.88947023 Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    7.34777517 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
    9.28752927 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
    10.15466395 EMBA_Greece_(n=6)
    10.64579729 Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    12.60896506 Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    13.70398117 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
    17.53414383 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    18.82482404 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    19.24242448 Villanovans_(n=2)
    19.26982615 Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=20)
    19.78511814 Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)
    20.23252332 Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    20.45064058 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=14)
    20.59513292 Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)
    20.74764806 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)
    20.74958072 Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
    20.89875116 Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)
    21.27021627 Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)

    Top 25 two variable/Factor source ancestry model fits.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
    1.20964158 3.00% Chalcolithic_Pontic_Steppe_(n=3) + 97.00% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.27407695 12.60% Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Levant_(n=15) + 87.40% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.27734625 3.00% Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Caucasus_(n=7) + 97.00% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.31703669 2.80% EMBA_Catacomb_culture_(n=4) + 97.20% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.34387372 2.80% Yamna_culture_(n=16) + 97.20% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.42475836 2.80% EMBA_Poltavka_culture_(n=8) + 97.20% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.42902871 96.00% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 4.00% Iron_Age_Kangju_(n=4)
    1.43246937 2.60% CA_Afanasievo_culture_(n=5) + 97.40% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.43397478 2.20% Khvalynsk_culture_(n=3) + 97.80% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.44456915 5.40% Iron_Age_Armenia_(n=7) + 94.60% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.46581884 67.20% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 32.80% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    1.50050107 70.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 29.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    1.50685742 96.60% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 3.40% Sarmatians_(n=14)
    1.54567948 94.80% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 5.20% Caucasian_Alans_(n=2)
    1.55653480 45.60% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 54.40% Etruscans_(n=48)
    1.56983493 3.80% Late_Bronze_Age_North_Caucasus_(n=4) + 96.20% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.57372734 4.20% Maykop_culture_(n=16) + 95.80% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.58938433 21.60% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 78.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
    1.60463230 2.80% LBA_Srubna_culture_(n=27) + 97.20% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.61313556 96.80% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 3.20% Tian_Shan_Saka_(n=5)
    1.62189931 2.60% Eastern_Corded_Ware_(n=14) + 97.40% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4)
    1.62473465 76.60% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 23.40% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    1.63780477 71.40% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 28.60% Medieval_Basilicata_(n=10)
    1.65056517 74.40% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 25.60% 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
    1.65924733 96.60% Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4) + 3.40% Cimmerians_(n=6)

  24. #424
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    Italian, English, Irish
    Country: United States



    I find it strange that my mother has so much affinity for Lombard ancestry. According to Ancestry.com, she is 67% Irish, 20% Scottish, 8% English & NW European, and 5% Norway. This suggests to me that the Lombard samples used in the calculator may in fact reflect Celtic ancestry? Are the "Lombard" samples taken from the 2018 study on 6th-century movements from Scania down to Pannonia to Piedmont? Something seems strange here.

    How do other English and Irish people fare on this calculator?

  25. #425
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    The DNA world needs to start shifting into IBD analysis. I'm sorry to say it but stuff like this is becoming almost useless. Those steppe analysis done by David Reich showed it. On the surface two populations can seem identical, but they share no close kinship. Some R1b Yamnaya shared more kinship with R1a Corded Ware, than other R1b steppe people.

    Sharing similar ratios of distant ancestry, is not an indication for close kinship. Someone needs to start using those 23andme tools.


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