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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    goths removed from line one and see new bolded


    Distance to:
    1.09120220 48.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 52.00% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    1.39874608 60.80% Bell_Beaker_Germany_(n=24) + 39.20% Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.57641508 49.20% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4) + 50.80% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.59465844 41.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 58.40% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.63813115 46.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 53.40% Swedish_Vikings_(n=23)
    1.70804040 55.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 45.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.81083934 93.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 6.40% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8)
    1.81301319 93.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 7.00% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    1.81562522 53.20% Bell_Beaker_Germany_(n=24) + 46.80% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    1.82916239 4.80% Mesolithic_East_Europeans_(EHG)_(n=12) + 95.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.84104359 5.00% Neolithic_Ukraine_(n=12) + 95.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.84994977 94.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 5.80% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16)
    1.85902430 6.80% Eastern_Corded_Ware_(n=5) + 93.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.86022241 29.00% Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2) + 71.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.86509818 5.20% Mesolithic_Baltic_Scandinavia_(SHG)_(n=31) + 94.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.88822152 90.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 9.40% Avars_(n=2)
    1.93217773 48.80% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 51.20% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    1.96139894 6.00% Mesolithic_Balkans_HG_(n=43) + 94.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.96802339 92.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 7.20% MBA_Andronovo_culture_(n=3)
    1.96816792 8.20% Western_Corded_Ware_(n=17) + 91.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.98510523 44.20% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18) + 55.80% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    2.01011704 8.60% EBA_Fatyanovo_culture_(n=18) + 91.40% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    2.01556759 92.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 7.20% Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    2.01625660 9.20% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18) + 90.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    2.03847629 88.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 12.00% Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)


    88% and over ...what does that mean for the lower number of that line?
    with the addition of Halstatt celts...

    Distance to:
    1.09120220 48.00% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 52.00% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    1.38733157 45.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 54.60% Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    1.39874608 60.80% Bell_Beaker_Germany_(n=24) + 39.20% Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
    1.57641508 49.20% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4) + 50.80% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.59465844 41.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 58.40% Lombards_(n=28)
    1.63813115 46.60% Minoan_Greece_(n=10) + 53.40% Swedish_Vikings_(n=23)
    1.70804040 55.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12) + 45.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
    1.81083934 93.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 6.40% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8)
    1.81301319 93.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 7.00% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    1.81562522 53.20% Bell_Beaker_Germany_(n=24) + 46.80% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    1.82916239 4.80% Mesolithic_East_Europeans_(EHG)_(n=12) + 95.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.84098870 6.80% Eastern_Corded_Ware_(n=8) + 93.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.84104359 5.00% Neolithic_Ukraine_(n=12) + 95.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.84886826 94.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 5.80% Baltic_Bronze_Age_(n=12)
    1.84994977 94.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 5.80% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16)
    1.86022241 29.00% Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2) + 71.00% Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    1.86509818 5.20% Mesolithic_Baltic_Scandinavia_(SHG)_(n=31) + 94.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.88822152 90.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 9.40% Avars_(n=2)
    1.93217773 48.80% Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3) + 51.20% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18)
    1.96139894 6.00% Mesolithic_Balkans_HG_(n=43) + 94.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.96802339 92.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 7.20% MBA_Andronovo_culture_(n=3)
    1.96816792 8.20% Western_Corded_Ware_(n=17) + 91.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.98510523 44.20% EBA_Unetice_culture_(n=18) + 55.80% Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
    2.01011704 8.60% EBA_Fatyanovo_culture_(n=18) + 91.40% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    2.01556759 92.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 7.20% Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
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    Distance to: Duarte
    4.66417136 47.60% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 52.40% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    4.85328375 49.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5) + 51.00% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.04636530 24.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 76.00% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.18746490 22.80% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 77.20% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.19626512 42.80% Chalcolithic_BB_Sardinia_(n=10) + 57.20% Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    5.42021978 20.60% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 79.40% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.51279033 82.40% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9) + 17.60% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.55329431 48.40% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 51.60% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.63868310 8.20% Chalcolithic_BB_Sardinia_(n=10) + 91.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.66006917 11.00% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11) + 89.00% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.66539760 11.80% Chalcolithic_Iberia_(n=59) + 88.20% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.67109585 5.80% Early_Medieval_Canaries_(n=5) + 94.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.73086346 6.00% Early_Neolithic_Spain_(n=10) + 94.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.73125619 6.40% Middle_Neolithic_Sardinia_(n=10) + 93.60% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.75815472 2.80% Epipaleolithic_Magreb_(Iberomaurusian)_(n=5) + 97.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.77419747 6.80% Middle_Late_Neolithic_Spain_(n=12) + 93.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.78241084 7.40% Chalcolithic_Iberia_(n=59) + 92.60% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.78342255 6.60% Nuragic_Sardinia_(n=13) + 93.40% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.78479561 6.80% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11) + 93.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.80845669 7.60% Late_Neolithic_Switzerland_(n=58) + 92.40% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.81063741 32.40% MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6) + 67.60% Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    5.81619145 6.00% Early_Neolithic_Maghreb_(n=1) + 94.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.81776672 7.20% Neolithic_Britain_(n=62) + 92.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    5.81831970 13.20% Globular_Amphora_culture_(n=6) + 86.80% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    5.82309411 8.20% Megalithic_Europe_(n=24) + 91.80% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)




    Distance to: Duarte
    6.17150711 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
    6.71266713 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
    10.86048341 Etruscans_(n=3)
    11.27186764 Latins_(n=4)
    12.12435978 Villanovans_(n=2)
    14.03098001 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    14.05696980 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    14.52055095 Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
    14.84792915 Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7)
    15.13849068 Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
    15.21667178 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
    15.30209790 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
    15.31625933 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
    16.25126149 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38)
    16.49046998 BB_Poland_Czechia_Hungary_(n=23)
    17.46561765 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
    18.93396947 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
    20.69150309 Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
    20.81037962 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
    21.80919989 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
    22.12759137 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Italy_(n=4)
    22.92128923 Globular_Amphora_culture_(n=6)
    22.94319289 Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)
    23.82327643 Megalithic_Europe_(n=24)
    24.01004581 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 4.6642% / 4.66417136 | R2P
    52.4 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    47.6 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 3.2378% / 3.23778073 | R3P
    55.4 Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
    37.8 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    6.8 Epipaleolithic_Mesolithic_Caucasus_(CHG)_(n=2)

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 2.5300% / 2.52998438 | R4P
    43.0 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    31.2 MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6)
    15.6 Bell_Beaker_Iberia_(n=11)
    10.2 Epipaleolithic_Mesolithic_Caucasus_(CHG)_(n=2)

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 1.9308% / 1.93082214 | R5P
    35.6 MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6)
    28.8 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
    19.0 CA_Remedello_culture_(n=3)
    12.5 Epipaleolithic_Mesolithic_Caucasus_(CHG)_(n=2)
    4.1 Epipaleolithic_Magreb_(Iberomaurusian)_(n=5)


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    new: Mesolithic” Baltic Scandinavia - Italian Greeks
    and down below Avars and Hallstatt Celts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    -Epipaleolithic Magreb (Iberomaurusian) : 65.5% NW Africa, 19% East Africa and 5.5% SW Asia. Interestingly no Atlantic Med (unlike Mesolithic Europeans and Anatolians).


    - Early Neolithic Maghreb : Big change from Epipaleolithic. From 0% to 48% Atlantic Med, from 5.5% to 21% SW Asia, from 65.5% to 19% NW Africa, from 0% to 10% Caucasus and from 19% to 1.7% East African. It looks like only 10% of the genes of Neolithic Maghrebi were indigenous, and 90% from Near Eastern immigrants.



    This is an interesting paper talking about this big change:

    Ancient genomes from North Africa evidence prehistoric migrations to the Maghreb from both the Levant and Europe


    https://www.pnas.org/content/115/26/6774



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    It blows my mind that Europe is only separated by 8 miles of water from the coast of Northern Africa (Strait of Gibraltar)

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    I have added:

    - Narva culture (Neolithic Lithuania) : almost pure North European (78%) and Atlantic Med (21%). Closest to modern Latvians (12.6).

    - Kangju (Iranian Sogdians) : no close modern match. The closest are the Pamiri from Tajikistan/Afghanistan (15.9).*

    - Medieval Steppe Turks : most similar to modern South Bashkirs (13.9) and Tatars (15.6).
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    I started making maps to visualise the admixtures by period.







    I did not include the Pre-Pottery Neolithic Levant, Iran and Anatolia as it would require a separate map for this period only (9000-6500 BCE).

    I also split the data for Pre-Pottery Neolithic Anatolia (samples from 8300-7800 BCE) and Early Neolithic Anatolia (samples from 6800-6200 BCE). There is actually a big difference between the two periods. We can see that there was a large migration from the Fertile Crescent to western Anatolia once pottery started spreading. Atlantic Med fell from 50% to 40%, North European fell from 3.7% to 0%, whereas the Caucasus, SW Asia and NW Africa increased in total by 14%. Pre-Pottery Neolithic Anatolia was in fact closer to Mesolithic Anatolia.

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    Here is a 3D PCA for demonstrating the position of the Iberomaurusians:


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    new top duo:

    Neol. Lithuania Narva Culture - Italian Greeks

    I'm glad the 2way works for many of you, ... maybe too Northern in my case, I'm not sure it represents my niche, though I could be wrong.

    We shouldn’t use Haplogroups to make sense of Autosomal results, ... but my y is rare and who knows where it’s been :)


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    Illyrian I4332 gets my top northern populations too, ... what if the Illyrians like I4332 were the ones that contributed to the Messapi Ancestry mix ???

    maybe that's what my results (above) are reflecting :)

    Distance to: I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
    1.51419541 3.00% Neolithic_Ukraine_(n=12) + 97.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.52129364 3.40% Neolithic_Lithuania_Narva_culture_(n=4) + 96.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.52695334 3.20% Mesolithic_Baltic_Scandinavia_(SHG)_(n=31) + 96.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.53373135 3.60% Mesolithic_Balkans_HG_(n=43) + 96.40% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.53760795 95.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 4.40% Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    1.55579035 96.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 3.40% Baltic_Bronze_Age_(n=12)
    1.55783178 96.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 3.40% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16)
    1.56970512 96.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 3.80% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8)
    1.59146553 95.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 4.20% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    1.60048039 4.20% Mesolithic_West_Europeans_(WHG)_(n=21) + 95.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians

    I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge,3.68,0.00,0.54,1.35,37.10, 27.03,0.00,0.00,5.65,0.00,23.65,0.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Illyrian I4332 gets my top northern populations too, ... what if the Illyrians like I4332 were the ones that contributed to the Messapi Ancestry mix ???

    maybe that's what my results (above) are reflecting :)

    Distance to: I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
    1.51419541 3.00% Neolithic_Ukraine_(n=12) + 97.00% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.52129364 3.40% Neolithic_Lithuania_Narva_culture_(n=4) + 96.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.52695334 3.20% Mesolithic_Baltic_Scandinavia_(SHG)_(n=31) + 96.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.53373135 3.60% Mesolithic_Balkans_HG_(n=43) + 96.40% Bronze_Age_Illyrians
    1.53760795 95.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 4.40% Early_Medieval_Czechs_(n=2)
    1.55579035 96.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 3.40% Baltic_Bronze_Age_(n=12)
    1.55783178 96.60% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 3.40% Bronze_Age_Estonia_(n=16)
    1.56970512 96.20% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 3.80% Iron_Age_Estonia_(n=8)
    1.59146553 95.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians + 4.20% Medieval_Estonia_(n=7)
    1.60048039 4.20% Mesolithic_West_Europeans_(WHG)_(n=21) + 95.80% Bronze_Age_Illyrians

    I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge,3.68,0.00,0.54,1.35,37.10, 27.03,0.00,0.00,5.65,0.00,23.65,0.99

    me and Kit TX8387837 (I4332 Ancient Dalmatia) [-]



    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 205.1cM (5.726 Pct)

    53 shared segments found for this comparison.

    265764 SNPs used for this comparison.

    53.982 Pct SNPs are full identical



    Comparing Kit TX8387837 (I4332 Ancient Dalmatia) [-] and Kit SZ6386770 (I3313 Dalmatia Bronze Age) [-]

    Largest segment = 6.6 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 63.6cM (1.776 Pct)

    17 shared segments found for this comparison.

    313574 SNPs used for this comparison.

    60.027 Pct SNPs are full identical

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    me and Kit TX8387837 (I4332 Ancient Dalmatia) [-]



    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 205.1cM (5.726 Pct)

    53 shared segments found for this comparison.

    265764 SNPs used for this comparison.

    53.982 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Comparing Kit TX8387837 (I4332 Ancient Dalmatia) [-] and Kit SZ6386770 (I3313 Dalmatia Bronze Age) [-]

    Largest segment = 6.6 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 63.6cM (1.776 Pct)

    17 shared segments found for this comparison.

    313574 SNPs used for this comparison.

    60.027 Pct SNPs are full identical
    one to one: me vs I4332:
    (... I also have “deep dive” results with it.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I started making maps to visualise the admixtures by period.







    I did not include the Pre-Pottery Neolithic Levant, Iran and Anatolia as it would require a separate map for this period only (9000-6500 BCE).

    I also split the data for Pre-Pottery Neolithic Anatolia (samples from 8300-7800 BCE) and Early Neolithic Anatolia (samples from 6800-6200 BCE). There is actually a big difference between the two periods. We can see that there was a large migration from the Fertile Crescent to western Anatolia once pottery started spreading. Atlantic Med fell from 50% to 40%, North European fell from 3.7% to 0%, whereas the Caucasus, SW Asia and NW Africa increased in total by 14%. Pre-Pottery Neolithic Anatolia was in fact closer to Mesolithic Anatolia.


    Thank you. Very interesting map. just a question: what the red color in the european clusters stand for exactly? Only WHG or WHG+EHG or maybe Common West Eurasian?

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    Three new maps.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    one to one: me vs I4332:
    (... I also have “deep dive” results with it.)


    Interesting is that you have only 3 shared segments with Dalmatian I4332 , while I have 53 shared segments .............................maybe your line was further north or already in italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Interesting is that you have only 3 shared segments with Dalmatian I4332 , while I have 53 shared segments .............................maybe your line was further north or already in italy
    ... a bit off topic: I posted more conservative results.
    I get 53+ shared segments too if I change the settings from 25 3 to 25 3 3 :


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    In my case, it seems that the delivery man leave dropped on the floor all the pizzas made by maciamo and, desperately, mixed all the pieces of all the pizzas in the pizza that was delivered to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... a bit off topic: I posted more conservative results.
    I get 53+ shared segments too if I change the settings from 25 3 to 25 3 3 :


    ok

    with 25 and 3 only ...1 get


    Largest segment = 4.4 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 43.8cM (1.222 Pct)

    12 shared segments found for this comparison.

    265764 SNPs used for this comparison.

    53.982 Pct SNPs are full identical

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    My data plotted on a pie chart using the same layout as Maciamo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    My data plotted on a pie chart using the same layout as Maciamo.

    Duarte's Pizza :) ... well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Duarte's Pizza :) ... well done

    My personalized pizza. A pizza with several flavors. This is the style of the house. Only at Pizzeria Duarte. It is a gourmet dish. ‘MasterChef’ winner, lol

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    Here is the map of the Bronze Age period.


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    Excellent maps, it is easy to see why modern Southern Europeans have admixture components from the Caucasus in Dodecad K12b modeling. Since it was already present in Minoans at 41.3% and Mycenaean at 37.1%. Also in Bronze Age Sicily at 27.5%, and respectable amounts in MBA Croatia, MBA North Italy, into the surrounding areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Excellent maps, it is easy to see why modern Southern Europeans have admixture components from the Caucasus in Dodecad K12b modeling. Since it was already present in Minoans at 41.3% and Mycenaean at 37.1%. Also in Bronze Age Sicily at 27.5%, and respectable amounts in MBA Croatia, MBA North Italy, into the surrounding areas.
    Including relatively high amounts in the Neolithic era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Excellent maps, it is easy to see why modern Southern Europeans have admixture components from the Caucasus in Dodecad K12b modeling. Since it was already present in Minoans at 41.3% and Mycenaean at 37.1%. Also in Bronze Age Sicily at 27.5%, and respectable amounts in MBA Croatia, MBA North Italy, into the surrounding areas.
    I remember pointing out long ago how Otzi, a Copper Age Italian, already had SW Asian and Caucasus. Now, looking at Maciamo's graph you can see they're at substantial percentages not only in Mycenaean Greece, but at lower levels in Italy, Sardinia, the Balkans, Iberia, and lower but still significant percentages across the Alps in the North Alpine Bronze Age and Unetice.

    If the Bronze Age Indo-European speaking people came by way of those two areas and then intermingled with Neolithic and Chalcolithic Italians, no wonder the percentages didn't go down very much.

    I'm reminded of the conversation you had the other day on another thread and the insistence all this ancestry arrived in the Iron Age and especially the Empire; not going by this they didn't.

    Even some of the academics and Khan ought to look more closely at the Bronze Age samples. Let's hope there are a lot more soon.

    As for my own results they're always the same, either 65% Latin and the rest Italian-Greek in Iron Age terms, or 75% Villanovan and 25% Mycenaean in Bronze Age terms. It all makes perfect sense.

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