Ancient genomes reveal structural shifts after the arrival of Steppe-related ancestry

Was that an insult :sad-2: but isnt it found there to?

I think he meant "no brainer" colloquially as in "common knowledge". At least I hope it was that way, since as they say there are no stupid questions.

Haplogrupo_G_%28ADN-Y%29.PNG

This is G distribution and frequency today. As you can see it is absent from the steppe, however you can find it as far away as Malasyia, Central Asia, India etc.

I am no expert on haplogroup G. But from what I know G2a it is related to Eneolithic Anatolian Farmers as far ancient samples are concerned. Also known as the first farmers, and colonized Europe soon after farming was discovered 10kya around Anatolia and the Fertile Crescent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G-M201#Prehistoric_presence
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_G2a_Y-DNA.shtml

Hope this helps (y)
 
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Distance to:Dodecadk12bStuvanè
15.18688908utigBRC002
17.53872572utigBRC010_018
18.35508649utigBRC007_019
19.21595171utigGCP002A1
20.75696510utigGCP003A1
27.27659436utigBRC024
29.42746676utigLSC011A1
31.98705676utigGCP004A1
35.19105000utigBRC013
36.68747743utigBRC022
37.20668623utigLSC002_004
38.61547358utigGLR002A1
42.60209267utigBRC011
43.31036712utigGLR003B1
52.45513607utigBRC012
72.10897586utigLSC007A1
73.82851482utigLSC012A1

 
Was that an insult :sad-2: but isnt it found there to?

It wasn't an insult, as ArchetypeOne explained it meant common knowledge. I think it's related to the UHG/Anatolian_Neolithic minus the Basal Eurasian influence or Basal Eurasian itself, because i don't think Y-DNA E/E-M35 is related to Basal Eurasian, they are related to Ancient North Africans/ANA so North African minus Shum-Laka and some other deeper layers that today Sub-Saharans have.
 
Here they are compared to samples from Antonio et al. 2019:

Distance to:utigLSC012A1
35.21959540C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
41.09825422C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
41.54376488C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
44.16899365C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
44.58641497C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
49.33770668C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
53.41446714C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
54.79099014C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
55.26693044C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
55.54409330C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
55.72552198C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
56.55657787C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
57.21743178C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
57.98049500C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
58.06863267C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
58.19667946C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
58.50468186C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
58.58053943C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
59.02379859C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
59.25275183C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
59.73483573C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
59.81797054C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
60.59539917C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
64.20248360C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
64.59453228C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis


Distance to:utigLSC011A1
10.23869132C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
12.13614848C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
12.22983238C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
13.67857449C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
14.49668583C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
16.15810323C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
16.29168500C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
16.37238834C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
16.65365726C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
16.93906137C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
17.40019827C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
18.12119201C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
18.53173494C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
19.31484403C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
19.52652043C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
20.16101188C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
20.58559691C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
21.20933285C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
23.53887635C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
23.82512120C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
23.82964960C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
24.01072052C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
24.20024587C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
24.68885174C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
24.99238884C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria


Distance to:utigLSC007A1
33.23393898C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
39.01084336C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
39.46463987C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
42.23515597C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
42.54720202C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
47.52305861C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
51.46322862C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
52.74003413C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
53.22765822C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
53.58074748C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
53.89929128C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
54.53008436C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
55.76454698C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
56.25847314C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
56.61995938C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
56.65942375C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
56.73836533C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
57.04775894C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
57.44891644C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
57.56930953C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
58.34247167C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
58.43799962C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
59.08183816C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
62.64193244C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
63.20140347C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis


Distance to:utigLSC002_004
6.96341870C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
7.55959655C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
8.03687128C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
9.95062812C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
10.34951690C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
11.61804631C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
12.98299657C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
13.11458349C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
13.27105497C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
13.52447041C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
14.84591526C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
14.87629322C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
16.02674327C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
20.38672117C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
25.05598332C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
25.75027961C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
26.49935282C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
27.41814910C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
27.48717519C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
30.19195257C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
30.38689356C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
30.75795669C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
31.77742438C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
31.97235055C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
32.02110242C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi


Distance to:utigGLR003B1
13.73385598C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
14.16209377C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
14.46198119C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
15.50503467C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
17.45632264C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
17.78642741C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
21.21997172C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
22.68716598C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
23.00334106C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
23.49358210C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
23.67838888C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
23.95061586C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
24.70761219C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
26.03476330C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
29.72176475C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
30.37307525C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
31.55885929C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
31.69998896C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
31.96826395C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
33.14672080C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
34.40299115C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
35.12275473C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
36.03203852C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
36.39499828C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
37.55583177C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria


Distance to:utigGLR002A1
6.21578635C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
6.66056304C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
7.31000684C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
7.60585301C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
9.74571188C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
13.66375132C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
15.42811071C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
15.59407580C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
15.89674495C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
16.08739880C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
16.17531143C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
16.59964759C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
17.97042014C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
18.83089483C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
25.83196082C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
26.20142744C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
27.44033163C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
28.13689215C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
28.23144346C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
28.98876334C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
31.61910973C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
32.38861065C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
32.42610060C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
32.42823307C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
32.44866099C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna


Distance to:utigGCP004A1
22.65213897C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
23.51029987C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
23.84491560C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
23.98665254C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
24.22208909C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R106_Crypta_Balbi
24.78243329C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
25.20002976C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
25.41163907C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna
25.56096829C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
25.94129526C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
25.94173471C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
26.72191236C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
26.79950746C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
27.52027980C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
27.61652585C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
27.91177350C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
29.14276411C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria
29.44349164C7_Medieval_European:R1286_Cancelleria
30.42677111C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria
30.42884815C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R31_Mausole_di_Augusto
30.87661251C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
30.99786122C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
31.26218482C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
31.27599079C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
31.64277643C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo


Distance to:utigGCP003A1
4.75458726C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
6.68422022C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
8.59585947C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
9.33465586C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
9.74444970C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
10.04920395C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
10.21865940C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
10.22310129C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
11.14297088C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
11.60549439C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
11.88910005C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
12.19343676C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
12.91365943C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
13.11451867C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
13.90508540C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
14.97650159C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
16.26380644C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
17.43176411C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
17.91148793C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
18.53074203C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
18.56249444C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
18.92377869C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
20.69973913C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna
21.09191314C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
21.42297598C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria


Distance to:utigGCP002A1
4.76533315C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
6.05673179C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
6.95757142C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.10387922C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
7.57236423C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
8.48595899C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
9.74480374C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
9.81238503C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
9.89784825C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
11.44503823C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
11.57543952C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
11.90510395C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
11.99873327C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
12.12534536C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
12.28801042C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
12.33174765C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
12.76642471C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
13.23046484C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
14.04527679C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
14.23813190C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
14.27782897C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna
14.63776964C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria
15.02961743C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
16.86917307C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
17.23667601C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria


Distance to:utigBRC024
8.62892230C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
10.35616724C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
11.37889713C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
12.11761528C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
12.64168501C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
12.76385913C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
15.23578682C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
15.82479384C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
15.91395614C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
16.52699005C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
16.64678948C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
17.07424669C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
17.09650842C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
18.82419188C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
19.42857946C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria
19.54486889C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
20.37410612C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
20.47327526C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
20.62999758C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
20.76143540C7_Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna
20.79424921C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
22.29897756C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
22.55833327C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
23.11429428C7_Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria
23.45397195C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R31_Mausole_di_Augusto


Distance to:utigBRC022
4.02019900C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
4.04932093C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
6.20734243C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
7.77091372C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
7.78596173C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
11.72645300C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
12.84134728C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
13.02696818C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
13.18059938C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
14.17530952C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
14.26754709C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
16.43371534C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
16.59924095C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
17.46713772C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
24.74299497C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
25.04614541C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
25.43876962C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
27.22553030C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
27.44789245C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
29.48284925C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
30.08188990C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
30.55322405C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
30.65538778C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
31.20137337C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
31.53161588C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis


Distance to:utigBRC013
4.52454418C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
6.22831438C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
6.74317433C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
8.40404664C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
8.60277281C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
8.67196633C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
8.94845238C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
10.00441902C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
10.01345595C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
10.45396575C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
11.63674353C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
12.09216275C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
13.07615769C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
24.53468361C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
25.30488490C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
25.33606915C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
25.77829319C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
27.20536344C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
27.66525619C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
27.67303561C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
27.92195910C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
28.70005749C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
28.95709930C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
29.01905925C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
29.12773421C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:utigBRC012
46.08827834C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
46.22768326C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
46.61931574C3_Imperial_North_African:R80_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
46.68411186C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
46.78356656C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
46.90644838C3_Imperial_North_African:R132_Marcellino_&_Pietro
47.18528690C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
47.30879622C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
47.78307755C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
47.80949383C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
47.82351723C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
48.22083575C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
48.34117500C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
48.42266928C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
48.85118320C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
49.64556073C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
49.69305384C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
50.23374065C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
50.23641508C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
50.29546997C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
50.53807377C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
50.56951651C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS
50.70355609C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
50.79741529C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
50.79813678C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis


Distance to:utigBRC011
33.00816869C3_Imperial_North_African:R80_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
33.96541329C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
34.21548480C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
34.69494344C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
34.79107357C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS
34.86249417C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
35.18626863C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
35.62094468C3_Imperial_North_African:R132_Marcellino_&_Pietro
35.82420969C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
36.39953296C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
36.50132189C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis
36.51976862C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
36.95146005C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
37.13468594C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
37.20755434C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_Necropolis
37.27296876C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R70_ANAS
37.43280513C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
37.52349531C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R66_ANAS
37.60711103C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R1547_Monterotondo
37.68138134C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R40_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
37.70008621C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
37.74475725C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
37.80570856C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
37.82541209C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R41_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
38.03952550C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:utigBRC010_018
4.84184882C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
5.87100502C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
7.66713115C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
9.29787072C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
9.52291447C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
9.94566237C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
10.39167455C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
12.02958852C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
12.96400015C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
13.30704325C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
13.76431618C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
15.11313667C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
15.45966688C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
15.55235352C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
15.86586588C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
15.91985239C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
16.01188933C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
17.07571668C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
17.10492619C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
17.26682368C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
17.51622962C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
17.72282991C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
18.11181106C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
18.24795605C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
18.38533383C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria


Distance to:utigBRC007_019
6.54603697C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
7.07844616C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
8.09669068C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
9.64426773C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
10.03545216C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
10.48726370C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
10.49781882C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
11.26285044C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
11.40753260C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
12.67677798C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
12.72205565C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
15.69947770C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
15.80187331C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
16.05180987C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
16.25561749C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
16.71347361C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
16.98446643C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
17.13613142C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
17.26250272C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
17.36702047C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
17.72683841C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
17.87944071C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
17.90723876C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
18.46008126C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
18.95917192C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:utigBRC002
5.16313858C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
5.38203493C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
5.51454441C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
5.99593195C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
6.06713277C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
6.72700528C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
7.24924824C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
8.17034883C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
8.62265040C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
9.16441487C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
9.47718840C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
10.71049952C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
11.69867514C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
11.92644960C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
12.18883095C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
12.41669038C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
12.66759646C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
12.94020865C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
13.70004380C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
14.33673952C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
15.22501232C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
16.27451689C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
16.48610930C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
16.75394282C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
17.09148326C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis


Distance to:GLR001A1_Dodecad_K12b
4.44961796C2_Late_Antiquity_Sardinian-like:R104_Crypta_Balbi
5.28753251C2_Chalcolithic:R1014_(Rinaldone_Gaudo)_Monte_San_Biagio
5.48803243C2_Chalcolithic:R4_Grotta_Continenza
6.57028919C2_Chalcolithic:R5_Grotta_Continenza
11.25879212C2_Neolithic:R16_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
13.44522964C2_Neolithic:R2_Grotta_Continenza
13.70141599C2_Neolithic:R17_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
14.05702316C2_Neolithic:R10_Grotta_Continenza
14.17979549C2_Neolithic:R6_Grotta_Continenza
14.37916548C2_Neolithic:R19_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
14.65627170C2_Neolithic:R8_Grotta_Continenza
15.99823428C2_Neolithic:R3_Grotta_Continenza
17.75312085C2_Neolithic:R9_Grotta_Continenza
18.80377888C2_Neolithic:R18_Ripabianca_di_Monterado
21.13565944C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
21.27769019C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
21.70343521C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
23.70818213C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
24.06219441C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
24.48636559C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
25.80425934C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
26.69055451C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
26.72417632C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
27.30774982C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
27.48015102C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria


Distance to:BRC003_Dodecad_K12b
4.18398136C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
4.58044758C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
5.71387784C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea
5.93161867C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
6.12114368C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
6.76388202C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
6.80258039C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
7.30931597C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
7.48078873C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
8.91597443C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
9.80801713C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
12.07641917C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
12.33191388C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
12.77938574C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
12.92838350C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
12.98922630C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis
13.02875666C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
13.39766024C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
14.00620220C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
14.45515479C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
16.04684081C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
17.06354301C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
17.16527308C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
17.30748682C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
17.67375172C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

 
Jovialis: Good analysis. Just a thought here, we have the samples from Sardinia and Sicily from the Fernandes et al 2020 paper "The spread of steppe and Iranian-related ancestryin the islands of the western Mediterranean" which indicates Steppe ancestry in Sicily by 2200 BC. I think the paper hinted at this ancestry coming from maybe both Iberia and the Aegean. The same paper points to Steppe ancestry in Central Europe by around 2500 BC. It would be interesting to see how these Central Italian Samples from Saupe et al 2021 "Ancient genomes reveal structural shifts after the arrival of Steppe-related ancestry in the Italian peninsula" compare to the ancient samples used in Fernandes et al 2020 and also the Beaker Samples from Northern Italy and Sicily. Are they genetically close? If so, does that suggest some Steppe ancestry arrived into the Italian Peninsula from Iberia via Sardinia and Sicily. Or maybe just similar peoples genetically arriving via two different routes?

Again good analysis.
 
^^Good idea! Here they are, sorry these don't have archeological IDs though:

Distance to:BRC003_Dodecad_K12b
5.16128860I8561
11.18768519I16163
12.13605784I3124
12.47087808I3315
12.95466325I11443
13.05527097I4329
13.49113042I4420_all
13.55839224I12221
13.59565372I7800
16.08687353I3123
18.40033424I11442
19.17569034I4065
19.37031750I7807
19.75007848I10365
22.15097063I3878
22.65520470I10372
22.69655701I3876
22.80531298I15939
23.15302356I16166
23.31150145I10373
24.25856756I3122
24.36301090I10364
24.53094984I10366
24.97414863I7805
25.05292199I14676


Distance to:GLR001A1_Dodecad_K12b
4.94815117I10365
5.40232357I3122
7.11837762I4063
7.46937079I15939
8.16246899I10364
8.29834923I14678
8.68221746I7805
8.98718532I16166
9.52012080I4065
9.70191734I16164
9.76862836I16183
10.07478536I4064
10.23377252I7774_d
10.43750449I16170
10.43757156I15945
10.47246389I14676
10.53969639I3642
10.54655394I16161
10.59955659I16168
10.73498952I3741
10.91179179I16169
10.98410215I3743
11.17269887I14675
11.31652774I14677
11.32425273I16165


Distance to:utigLSC012A1
28.91575176I15943
29.92916136I10552
32.21258760I15941
32.32244421I10502
33.08283392I15944
33.35918314I10554
33.78260795I15946
34.02226330I10553
34.22187020I16165
34.51627008I14675
34.82737429I3743
34.87999283I15942
34.96234975I3642
34.98001286I16168
35.36659017I3741
35.38264546I16170
35.41269688I16169
35.65836087I14677
35.67208853I16161
36.05056172I15945
36.45037997I14676
36.60569355I16183
37.34470645I14678
38.01231248I16164
38.88417673I16166


Distance to:utigLSC011A1
7.94510541I10365
9.08688065I15939
9.52368626I7805
10.77169439I4065
10.84865890I3122
12.07298637I4063
12.69419552I11442
12.77208284I7807
12.94295175I3123
13.01710029I7800
13.09909921I7774_d
13.34646020I16163
13.55997788I10364
13.87545315I4064
13.94477321I14678
14.51800262I16166
14.60270523I3124
14.80427641I16183
14.81457053I10371
15.28607863I3878
15.39384942I4062
15.76167504I15945
15.81726904I14676
16.02125151I16161
16.07218716I10373


Distance to:utigLSC007A1
26.69796060I15943
27.85321346I10552
30.39925328I15941
31.27668621I15944
31.41186878I10554
31.51603084I15946
31.60574631I10502
31.94579472I10553
32.08731525I16165
32.52235693I14675
32.71239673I16168
32.72482238I3743
32.76450976I3642
32.96531662I15942
33.44562453I16170
33.50266706I3741
33.56238520I16169
33.65104010I14677
33.77950118I16161
34.17739311I15945
34.18157983I16183
34.50286655I14676
35.22718411I14678
36.31873483I16164
36.91471522I16166


Distance to:utigLSC002_004
6.67074209I15947
8.51206790I4063
8.65766135I3122
9.93258275I16164
10.02453490I4064
10.52931147I15942
11.28243325I7774_d
11.50153903I16169
11.57125317I4062
11.60125855I14677
12.27815133I3741
12.35080159I16170
12.63812486I10365
12.94418402I10364
13.13385320I4065
13.42324104I14678
13.45460888I16166
13.61053269I15944
13.65462559I16168
13.68415142I4936
13.78773005I10502
13.89901076I15941
14.15630248I15945
14.45468090I16161
14.57149958I10554


Distance to:utigGLR003B1
10.48130717I15944
10.51371010I15945
11.08754256I16169
11.41452583I14677
11.45638250I15941
11.51215879I16164
12.01491573I3741
12.05732972I16161
12.14072074I16165
12.23741803I15942
12.23765092I10364
12.56505472I10554
12.60979778I14678
12.76175928I16170
13.01396173I14675
13.24813194I3642
13.96867209I16168
14.15259340I10502
14.22472144I3743
14.38545446I10553
14.50848028I15943
14.64345246I14676
14.73800190I15946
15.32317526I15939
15.38227551I10552


Distance to:utigGLR002A1
6.77033973I16164
7.10414668I14677
7.13588817I16169
7.59760489I3122
7.87605866I15942
8.14714674I15945
8.30947050I14678
8.34123492I10364
8.48764396I3741
9.30534255I16170
9.47016367I4063
9.51518260I15944
9.76928349I16161
9.80080609I15941
9.89793413I3642
10.14400808I16168
10.21602662I16165
10.31697145I10554
10.54982938I10365
10.59786299I14675
11.28114356I16166
11.33673674I15939
11.41964973I3743
11.50425139I4064
11.61637637I14676


Distance to:utigGCP004A1
22.03550544I12221
26.35090890I4329
26.40742320I11443
29.41651407I3315
29.67710060I4420_all
29.85122946I7800
31.07253128I8561
34.54915339I16163
36.72611060I3124
37.66687139I15939
38.45392828I3123
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Jovialis: Thanks, it seems there are some good fits below 10 for many of them. Sort of suggests, based on this quick analysis of a consistent structure in Sicily and Central Italy in this part of the Bronze Age, and that would suggest to me a similar pattern in Southern Italy Mainland as well. I seem to remember somewhere those samples had archeological ID's (You may have provided that data for the board when the DNA files were first made available to the public). I am going to go back and see if I saved them or maybe try to find where I they are.
 
Jovialis: Ahh, the archeological ID's for the Fernandes et al 2020 samples, both Sicily and Sardinia, are in fact in the Dodecad 12B source data sheet at Vahaduo. That would help us see which samples from Sicily (Fernandes et al 2020) are close to the mainland Italian samples from Saupe et al 2021.

Going to take a quick lunch break. If someone in the meantime has time to run those and post them please go ahead. Cheers.
 
^^Good idea! Here they are, sorry these don't have archeological IDs though:

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15.48593233I4420_all
15.49286610I7800
17.07119211I3123
19.35957644I11442
20.41685333I7807
20.43268950I4065
21.52624212I10365
22.77807718I3876
22.82106921I3878
23.17491748I10372
23.97324342I10373
24.83503976I15939
24.83686776I10366
25.13156581I16166
25.83264988I3122
26.06248261I4109
26.11318058I3125
26.33479068I7774_d

Some figures from Fernando et al 2020

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Jovialis: As a Follow up to your post #89, I ran the Saupe et al 2021 coordinates you and Salento provided against the Fernandes et al 2020 samples from Sicily and Sardinia. I also kept in the Bell Beaker Samples from Northern Italy and Sicily. I used the coordinates provided in the Dodecad 12B vahaduo spreadsheet and increased the gradiant for viewing purposes. I tried to keep the post managable by only including the top 10 results, except for the last 3 where I included top 17 as those 3 had more samples around 10 or less. Here are those results.

Duarte: Thanks for the reference to the Fernandes et al 2020 paper. That will definitely add some additional detail and context to the analysis.

Distance to:LSC002_004_Dodecad_K12b
5.76594311I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
8.91373098I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
9.04969613I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
9.95161796I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
10.39626375I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
10.85758721I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
10.88859036I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
11.17518233I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
11.38200334I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
11.70802289I2477_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy

Distance to:GCP002A1_Dodecad_K12b
6.73702457I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
9.49421929I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
11.67755968I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
17.08758614I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
17.72227130I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
17.77769108I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
18.46596599I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
19.84538989I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
23.68195304I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
26.27812969I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II

Distance to:BRC003_Dodecad_K12b
5.00374859I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
8.75073711I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
10.60064149I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
11.13013926I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
11.69917946I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
12.21753658I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
12.69154443I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
14.43379022I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
15.77783889I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
18.50060540I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
Distance to:utigLSC012A1
27.25109539I15943_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
29.48132629I10552_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
31.89050642I15941_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
32.58928045I10502_Sardinia_BA_Anul?_Seui
33.39685315I3642_Sardinia_BA_Alghero
33.46232658I10554_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
33.47415570I15944_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
33.79159363I14675_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
33.91899026I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
34.03444285I16165_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu

Distance to:utigLSC011A1
6.50623547I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
7.92552837I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo
10.37894503I2477_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
10.47193392I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
10.80379100I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
10.96154642I15939_Sardinia_BA_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
11.55489939I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
12.18883095I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
12.89594898I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
13.09684313I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju

Distance to:utigLSC007A1
25.04051517I15943_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
27.41224179I10552_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
30.13137567I15941_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
31.23382141I3642_Sardinia_BA_Alghero
31.47514416I10554_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
31.56761157I15944_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
31.59155742I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
31.82625017I14675_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
31.88586521I10502_Sardinia_BA_Anul?_Seui
31.90223346I16165_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu

Distance to:utigLSC002_004
5.76594311I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
8.91373098I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
9.04969613I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
9.95161796I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
10.39626375I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
10.85758721I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
10.88859036I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
11.17518233I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
11.38200334I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
11.70802289I2477_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy

Distance to:utigGLR003B1
9.94111161I15945_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
10.53892784I15944_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
10.55158282I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
11.07668723I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
11.53515063I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
11.59345936I15941_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
11.59912066I10364_Sardinia_BA_Alghero
11.80065676I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
12.26662138I16165_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
12.59641219I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
Distance to:utigGCP004A1
23.25250094I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
25.25433230I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
26.31549354I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
30.77296541I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
31.33152566I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
33.91429345I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
35.26120673I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
36.47789605I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
38.23870421I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
38.78464129I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana

Distance to:utigGCP003A1
7.11344502I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
8.58203938I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
13.41957898I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
14.74878978I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
14.94165988I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
15.51946842I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
16.05123360I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
16.27310358I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
19.20716273I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
20.67490266I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna

Distance to:utigGCP002A1
6.73702457I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
9.49421929I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
11.67755968I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
17.08758614I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
17.72227130I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
17.77769108I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
18.46596599I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
19.84538989I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
23.68195304I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
26.27812969I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II

Distance to:utigBRC024
10.01085910I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
14.15980226I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
17.16226092I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
20.65457092I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
22.37157795I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
22.38266517I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
24.25712473I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
25.32686716I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
26.73686406I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
27.25112658I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu

Distance to:utigBRC013
6.44267025I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
7.75552706I4062_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
7.91264178I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
7.92203888I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
8.11357504I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
10.88645948I10372_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
11.30240682I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
11.72698171I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
11.73683092I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
12.19528597I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo

Distance to:utigBRC012
36.84508651I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
42.57708774I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
43.32872835I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
44.39765760I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno
44.45919140I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
44.64499300I16183_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
45.59658759I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
45.98335351I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
46.22747668I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
46.34525650I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
Distance to:utigBRC011
26.58426978I4383_Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno
31.59293592I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
32.27100711I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
33.34665800I10371_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
33.87954398I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
33.90453215I10366_Sardinia_IA_Usellus
33.92891245I12220_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
34.14885796I12223_Sardinia_LateAntiquity_Grotta_Colombi
34.39539795I10373_Sicily_LBA_Marcita
34.65103750I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana

Distance to:utigBRC010_018
4.79686356I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
6.97223063I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
7.40141878I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
8.09510963I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
9.78694028I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
10.47689840I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
13.08967150I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
13.14876420I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
13.78999275I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
14.27587475I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy

Distance to:utigBRC007_019
5.26744720I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
6.64983458I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
8.72153083I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
9.66158890I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
11.47537799I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
12.34110611I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
12.50301964I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
12.97875187I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
14.39676353I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
14.82394684I7807_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
Distance to:utigBRC002
7.19341365I8561_Sicily_EBA_Isnello
9.44133995I2478_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
10.03376799I1979_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
11.49743450I11443_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
12.61567676I3124_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
13.04717977I16163_Sardinia_IA_Anghelu_Ruju
14.14781609I7800_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
15.31797637I12221_Sardinia_EarlyMedieval_Grotta_Colombi
16.74733710I3123_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
19.39732198I11442_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II

Distance to:GLR001A1_Dodecad_K12b
5.02862804I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo
5.41289202I2477_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
6.04082776I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
6.77523431I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
7.06372423I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
8.02751518I14678_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
8.07897271I7805_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
8.17371397I15939_Sardinia_BA_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
8.38529666I10364_Sardinia_BA_Alghero
9.40170729I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
9.69162009I4065_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
9.72444343I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
10.08906339I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
10.10555293I16183_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
10.67679727I16168_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
10.69564865I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
10.72567480I14676_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles

Distance to:utigGLR002A1
6.38303219I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
6.65090971I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
7.17471951I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
7.67086045I10364_Sardinia_BA_Alghero
7.71341040I2477_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
7.76088268I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
8.03626779I15945_Sardinia_Neolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
8.14162146I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
8.16667007I14678_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
8.80014204I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
8.99819426I16168_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
9.12820355I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
9.20301038I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
9.24068720I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
9.56294411I15944_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
9.62266075I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
10.11789998I15939_Sardinia_BA_contam_Anghelu_Ruju

Distance to:utigBRC022
6.56258333I4063_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
6.86192393I16164_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
7.38358314I3122_Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II
7.66792019I15946_Sardinia_Neolithic_contam_Anghelu_Ruju
7.92410878I16166_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Sa_Ucca_de_su_Tintirriolu
8.75161699I15942_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Anghelu_Ruju
9.23864168I14677_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
9.26042656I4064_Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna
9.34401948I16170_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
9.45666432I2477_Bronze_Age_Beaker_Northern_Italy
9.55594579I16168_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
9.58989051I16169_Sardinia_BA_Anghelu_Ruju
9.62976116I14678_Sardinia_Chalcolithic_Serra_Crabiles
9.79034218I3741_Sardinia_BA_Perdasdefogu
10.23033724I7774_d_Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana
10.26685931I10365_Sardinia_BA_Seulo
10.43123674I10364_Sardinia_BA_Alghero
 
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Jovialis: Ahh, the archeological ID's for the Fernandes et al 2020 samples, both Sicily and Sardinia, are in fact in the Dodecad 12B source data sheet at Vahaduo. That would help us see which samples from Sicily (Fernandes et al 2020) are close to the mainland Italian samples from Saupe et al 2021.

Going to take a quick lunch break. If someone in the meantime has time to run those and post them please go ahead. Cheers.

I know, I made them :grin:

I didn't have them on hand, I just ran the raw samples through admixture studio.
 
I know, I made them :grin:

I didn't have them on hand, I just ran the raw samples through admixture studio.

Yes, I thought you may have, and even noted that in my post #90!!!!. Anyway, I wasn't sure where they were but when I saw the results you posted, I was like wait, I think those samples are somewhere with archeological IDs. Regardless, what is your take on what seems to be some close matches distance wise between the Sicilian and Sardinian samples from Fernandes et al 2020 and the Samples from Saupe et al 2021. It seems the overall population structure in Sicily, Sardinia and Central Italy (Rome), and thus Southern Mainland was generally similar (although would be good to get more samples from here and more Sicily during the Greek period as well. I think, and this is just my view, the results you, Salento and I get for the later Roman samples in Antonio et al 2019 samples is not to me surprising (e.g., starting with Iron Age samples R850 and R437).

So while I don't think the Antonio et al 2019 paper on Ancient Romans did not have any samples from the Bronze Age per se, the Saupe et al 2021 study sort of shows a similar pattern from NE Italy to Lazio to Sicily that seems similar with respect to Steppe arriving, albeit maybe somewhat more in Northern areas. Anyway, just my quick assessment of the Fernandes et al and Saupe et al results and its implications for the Romans in Antonio et al 2019

So back to those 2 Roman samples (R850 and R437), Salento (thanks again) provided the GEDMATCH Kit # and I have been running the Antonio et al 2019 samples that have DEEP Dive matches at MTA to look at their basic admixture profile using the Hunter vs. Farmer calculator from the Eurogenes set. Those 2 guys get significant Early European Farmer admixture, which is to me not surprising that I cluster closest to those 2 Iron Age samples.
 
Yes, I thought you may have, and even noted that in my post #90!!!!. Anyway, I wasn't sure where they were but when I saw the results you posted, I was like wait, I think those samples are somewhere with archeological IDs. Regardless, what is your take on what seems to be some close matches distance wise between the Sicilian and Sardinian samples from Fernandes et al 2020 and the Samples from Saupe et al 2021. It seems the overall population structure in Sicily, Sardinia and Central Italy (Rome), and thus Southern Mainland was generally similar (although would be good to get more samples from here and more Sicily during the Greek period as well. I think, and this is just my view, the results you, Salento and I get for the later Roman samples in Antonio et al 2019 samples is not to me surprising (e.g., starting with Iron Age samples R850 and R437).

So while I don't think the Antonio et al 2019 paper on Ancient Romans did not have any samples from the Bronze Age per se, the Saupe et al 2021 study sort of shows a similar pattern from NE Italy to Lazio to Sicily that seems similar with respect to Steppe arriving, albeit maybe somewhat more in Northern areas. Anyway, just my quick assessment of the Fernandes et al and Saupe et al results and its implications for the Romans in Antonio et al 2019

So back to those 2 Roman samples (R850 and R437), Salento (thanks again) provided the GEDMATCH Kit # and I have been running the Antonio et al 2019 samples that have DEEP Dive matches at MTA to look at their basic admixture profile using the Hunter vs. Farmer calculator from the Eurogenes set. Those 2 guys get significant Early European Farmer admixture, which is to me not surprising that I cluster closest to those 2 Iron Age samples.


... the missing Dod k12 Bronze/Copper Age Sardinians (Su Crocefissu) (Antonio et el 2019):
(the samples were not available when the original “R” batch came out so they are missing from many calculators)

Code:
R22_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,1.56,0.00,70.07,6.26,0.00,0.00,8.00,0.00,14.11,0.00
R24_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,3.65,0.12,68.32,4.47,0.48,0.00,9.36,0.00,13.60,0.00
R25_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.94,0.00,67.22,5.70,0.00,0.00,6.47,0.00,15.67,0.00
R26_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.22,0.00,67.59,4.33,0.00,0.00,7.23,0.00,16.52,0.11
R27_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.46,2.73,0.06,68.69,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.48,0.00,18.58,0.00
R28_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.17,0.00,70.94,4.06,0.00,0.00,7.01,0.42,13.18,0.23
R29_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.13,0.00,71.74,0.85,0.24,0.00,8.79,0.15,14.10,0.00

R22: dated 2010 - 1881 calBCE,
R24: dated 3626 - 3374 calBCE,
R25, R26, R27, R28, R29: dated 3500 - 900 BCE
 
... the missing Dod k12 Bronze/Copper Age Sardinians (Su Crocefissu) (Antonio et el 2019):


Code:
R22_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,1.56,0.00,70.07,6.26,0.00,0.00,8.00,0.00,14.11,0.00
R24_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,3.65,0.12,68.32,4.47,0.48,0.00,9.36,0.00,13.60,0.00
R25_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.94,0.00,67.22,5.70,0.00,0.00,6.47,0.00,15.67,0.00
R26_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.22,0.00,67.59,4.33,0.00,0.00,7.23,0.00,16.52,0.11
R27_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.46,2.73,0.06,68.69,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.48,0.00,18.58,0.00
R28_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.17,0.00,70.94,4.06,0.00,0.00,7.01,0.42,13.18,0.23
R29_Sardinia_BA_Dodecad_K12b,0.00,0.00,4.13,0.00,71.74,0.85,0.24,0.00,8.79,0.15,14.10,0.00

R22: dated 2010 - 1881 calBCE,
R24: dated 3626 - 3374 calBCE,
R25, R26, R27, R28, R29: dated 3500 - 900 BCE

Thanks Salento: Those samples can also be used to look at all the Bronze Age samples to date from Antonio et al 2019, Fernandes et al 2020 and Saupe et al 2021.
 
Thanks to Jovialis for the coordinates:
Distance to:
Angela
11.71627074
utigBRC002
12.25380349
utigBRC010_018
13.57893221
utigBRC007_019
16.61260365
utigGCP003A1
19.08200199
utigGCP002A1
23.62930384
utigLSC011A1
24.33103779
utigBRC024
26.44706033
utigBRC013
28.24889909
utigLSC002_004
28.38553857
utigBRC022
29.84630965
utigGLR002A1
33.47505340
utigGCP004A1
34.53718141
utigGLR003B1
43.31578581
utigBRC011
53.21646832
utigBRC012
64.37416718
utigLSC007A1
65.92082220
utigLSC012A1

Target: Angela
Distance: 9.7803% / 9.78033657 | ADC: 0.25x RC

78.6
utigBRC002
15.8
utigBRC013
5.6
utigBRC011


Target: Angela
Distance: 9.7803% / 9.78026413

78.5
utigBRC002
15.8
utigBRC013
5.6
utigBRC011
0.1
utigGCP004A1

Distance to:
Angela
10.05807080
80.20% utigBRC002 + 19.80% utigBRC013
10.67836521
89.60% utigBRC002 + 10.40% utigBRC011
11.06551856
87.00% utigBRC002 + 13.00% utigLSC002_004
11.18683479
59.00% utigBRC002 + 41.00% utigBRC010_018
11.28844297
89.20% utigBRC002 + 10.80% utigBRC022
11.35692227
90.60% utigBRC002 + 9.40% utigGLR002A1
11.38282078
88.20% utigBRC002 + 11.80% utigLSC011A1
11.48918474
76.00% utigBRC002 + 24.00% utigBRC007_019
11.60820274
95.40% utigBRC002 + 4.60% utigGLR003B1
11.65869915
97.80% utigBRC002 + 2.20% utigBRC012
12.20769147
96.80% utigBRC010_018 + 3.20% utigGCP004A1
12.22678570
96.60% utigBRC010_018 + 3.40% utigBRC013
12.86992116
37.80% utigBRC013 + 62.20% utigGCP002A1
13.31095409
89.40% utigBRC007_019 + 10.60% utigBRC013
14.34397286
27.40% utigBRC013 + 72.60% utigGCP003A1
14.65092965
66.40% utigGCP002A1 + 33.60% utigLSC002_004
15.16839428
14.40% utigBRC011 + 85.60% utigGCP003A1
15.54491898
31.80% utigBRC022 + 68.20% utigGCP002A1
15.68667843
81.20% utigGCP003A1 + 18.80% utigLSC002_004
15.92879554
70.60% utigGCP002A1 + 29.40% utigGLR002A1
15.95188568
79.00% utigGCP003A1 + 21.00% utigLSC011A1
16.07240641
15.20% utigBRC022 + 84.80% utigGCP003A1
16.21961023
87.40% utigGCP003A1 + 12.60% utigGLR002A1
16.35759070
63.40% utigGCP002A1 + 36.60% utigLSC011A1
16.54784084
13.40% utigGCP002A1 + 86.60% utigGCP003A1

Target
Distance
utigBRC002
utigBRC011
utigBRC013
utigGCP004A1
Angela
9.78026413

78.5
5.6
15.8
0.1
Average
9.78026413

78.5
5.6
15.8
0.1
RESET SORTINGCOPY TABLE AS CSVCOPY TABLE AS TSV
 
According to a post on AG the individuals from Grotta Regina Margherita were about 25-30% Steppe! One is dated 1600 BC so Appenninic culture.

Were they the ancestors of the Iron Age Latins* or just outliers?

*Grotta Regina Margherita is located near Frosinone, so Southern Latium, not in Latin territory

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According to a post on AG the individuals from Grotta Regina Margherita were about 25-30% Steppe! One is dated 1600 BC so Appenninic culture.

Were they the ancestors of the Iron Age Latins* or just outliers?

*Grotta Regina Margherita is located near Frosinone, so Southern Latium, not in Latin territory

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Do you know whether the individuals were 25-30% "Steppe MLBA" or proper Yamanya?
 

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