The Serbian nation their genetics

That's the problem, in Serbia the nation is forged on an Orthodox Christian religious identity. Let us forget the Serbian Muslims, Serbian Catholics ...
but it was not always so.

I agree. These never existed as real ethnicities.

On the other hand, it is possible that members of any ethnic group become Serbs, even massively, only by falling under the Serbian Church jurisdiction. I have Aromanians (Tsintsars) on my mind.
 
I agree. These never existed as real ethnicities.

On the other hand, it is possible that members of any ethnic group become Serbs, even massively, only by falling under the Serbian Church jurisdiction. I have Aromanians (Tsintsars) on my mind.

The difference is that the Aromanians speak both Serbian and Romanian, and they are very well integrated in Serbia, it is also themselves who have refused to join the Roman Orthodox Church and declaring themselves Romanian.
 
The difference is that the Aromanians speak both Serbian and Romanian, and they are very well integrated in Serbia, it is also themselves who have refused to join the Roman Orthodox Church and declaring themselves Romanian.

That was my point. Before the establishment of the modern Serbian language (created by Vuk Karadžić), it wasn't unusual for the Serbs to speak different languages. Could that be the reason why Serbian intelligentsia were sticking so hard to the artificial church language until 19th century? The first vernacular dictionary published as late as 1818. and wasn't very welcome by the Serb elite.
 
That was my point. Before the establishment of the modern Serbian language (created by Vuk Karadžić), it wasn't unusual for the Serbs to speak different languages. Could that be the reason why Serbian intelligentsia were sticking so hard to the artificial church language until 19th century? The first vernacular dictionary published as late as 1818. and wasn't very welcome by the Serb elite.

Vuk Karadžić-Stefanović, to reform the Serbian language, the Serbian language has had 2 reforms in its history, this attachment is recent it dates after the second world war the division has played a lot, the dialects have formed languages, the leaders have played to the older ones, also the myth that the Serbs have 8000 Turkish words is false but that's another story
 
to answer the Serbs attached themselves very strongly to orthodoxy for the nationalists a Muslim Serbian where Catholic does not exist, the language did not play anything in there.
 
I am resuming the translation this weekend
 
There are numerous documents that show that people from Kotor (Cattaro), especially those who were using Slavic language, considered themselves Croats througout history. However, the confusion about their ethnicity comes from the fact that Italians (Venetians) sometimes called the whole area "Servia", after a medieval Serbian empire that ruled over the neigbouring terriories. Therefore in Italian sources sometimes appears an exonym "Servian" to name locals. Local sources are, of course, more reliable. For them, "Serbs" were people from mountains, obviously Eastern Orthodox. If you wish I can present you the relevant historical sources, (not Serbian 19th century constructs).

The venetians also placed Cattaro under the term Montenegro ( a venetian word which means Black Mountain )

they also state that this area was governed by

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Zeta

The Principality of Zeta (Serbian: Кнежевина Зета, romanized: Kneževina Zeta) is a historiographical name for a late medieval principality located in the southern parts of modern Montenegro and northern parts of modern Albania, around the Lake of Skadar. It was ruled by the families of Balšić, Lazarević, Branković and Crnojević in succession from the second half of the 14th century until Ottoman conquest at the very end of the 15th century. Previously, the same region of Zeta was a Serbian crown land, that had become self-governing after the fall of the Serbian Empire, when the Balšić family created a regional principality, sometime after 1360.[1]


The venetians archives also noted that the ancient Serbs where Thracian in origin as their symbol was a Thracian Boar ( still used today by the Serbian Government )
 
The venetians also placed Cattaro under the term Montenegro ( a venetian word which means Black Mountain )

they also state that this area was governed by

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Zeta

The Principality of Zeta (Serbian: Кнежевина Зета, romanized: Kneževina Zeta) is a historiographical name for a late medieval principality located in the southern parts of modern Montenegro and northern parts of modern Albania, around the Lake of Skadar. It was ruled by the families of Balšić, Lazarević, Branković and Crnojević in succession from the second half of the 14th century until Ottoman conquest at the very end of the 15th century. Previously, the same region of Zeta was a Serbian crown land, that had become self-governing after the fall of the Serbian Empire, when the Balšić family created a regional principality, sometime after 1360.[1]


The venetians archives also noted that the ancient Serbs where Thracian in origin as their symbol was a Thracian Boar ( still used today by the Serbian Government )

the former rulers of Montenegro that you have just mentioned, such as the Balšić, the Crnojević, the Lazarević and Branković are all linked to the Nemanjić dynasty, yes for the Serbs mainly descended from the Triballians
 
for the Serbian government, it no longer uses this symbol.
 
While waiting for the translation here is some document, foreign authors who speak about Serbs in their books
« Die Servier haben unter den Illischen Slaven die glandzenofte Rolle gespielt und in der Vallaschei ders ftebt man unter dem Namen Servier oder Sirben alle slavische Voker ienseits der Donau ...».
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Serbs played the brightest role among the Illyrian Slavs, and in the Wallachian reason (even today) under the name of Serb or Serb, all Slavic peoples on the other side of the Danube ...

Title: Handbuch der Geschichte des Mittelalters
Author: Friedrich Rühs
Publisher: Realschulbuchh., 1816
Original from: Austrian National Library
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… Zum serbischen Volks und Sprach treisze gehören die durch Mundart und politsche Geographie geschiedenen Croaten und Slavonier (dgl. Zeuss 607 ff. 622. 598. 612. Schaf II 304 ff.)...

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… Croats and Slavonians belong to the Serbian tribe in terms of language and ethnicity, which are separated by dialect and political geography…

Title: Völkerkunde Osteuropas, insbesondere der Haemoshalbinsel und der unteren Donaugebiete, Tomovi 1-2
Völkerkunde Osteuropas, insbendere der Haemoshalbinsel und der unteren Donaugebiete, Lorenz Diefenbach
Author: Lorenz Diefenbach
Publisher: L. Brill, 1880
Original from: New York Public Library
Length: 732 pages

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« Viniden Serben und Sporen find also allgemeine Namen der Slawen «.

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Windi, Spori and Serbs are the common names of Slavs

Title: Lehrbuch der Religionsgeschichte und Mythologie der Vorzüglichsten Völker des Alterthums, Tom 4
Book of Religious History and Mythology of the Older People of Alterthums, Book of Religious History and Mythology of the Old People of Olderts
Author: Willigis Eckermann
Published by: 1848
Original from: New York Public Library

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While waiting for the translation here is some document, foreign authors who speak about Serbs in their books « Die Servier haben unter den Illischen Slaven die glandzenofte Rolle gespielt und in der Vallaschei ders ftebt man unter dem Namen Servier oder Sirben alle slavische Voker ienseits der Donau ...». Translate Serbs played the brightest role among the Illyrian Slavs, and in the Wallachian reason (even today) under the name of Serb or Serb, all Slavic peoples on the other side of the Danube ... Title: Handbuch der Geschichte des Mittelalters Author: Friedrich Rühs Pubisher: Realschulbuchh., 1816 Original from: Austrian National Library
These are the 19th century fairtales. :D
"Publisher: Realschulbuchh., 1816" :D

Austrian Slavists and historians of that time had pretty much distroded view of the ethnicities in the area that they knew very little about. When I'll have time I wil present you the evolution of their "ideas" about who belongs to which "nation" and which language they speak. It is hillarious. Even two of them couldn't agree on the same picture. :D

Leave that 200 years old trash alone. That's not an evidence of anything. Most of their ideas were rejected long time ago and there is no purpose to base any rational discussion on the top of it.
 
These are the 19th century fairtales. :D "Publisher: Realschulbuchh., 1816" :D Austrian Slavists and historians of that time had pretty much distroded view of the ethnicities in the area that they knew very little about. When I'll have time I wil present you the evolution of their "ideas" about who belongs to which "nation" and which language they speak. It is hillarious. Even two of them couldn't agree on the same picture. :D Leave that 200 years old trash alone. Most of their ideas are rejected long time ago and there is no purpose to base any rational discussion on the top of it.

Let's follow your reasoning, all the books of the time are fancy ?, but it's your choice to think about it so I have other older and more recent documents
I just want to say that sometimes old works can be true, on the other hand the works of Jovan Deretić I do not believe very much it is abuse, I had heard that the Croats consider the Serbs as Turkish
 
Have read the book by Heinrich Kunstmann written in 1996 ?
Die Slaven: ihr Name, ihre Wanderung nach Europa und die Anfänge der russischen Geschichte in historisch-onomastischer Sicht
 
bad typing, some works by Jovan Deretić are totally abusive
 
I apologize for the delay in the translation on the three haplogroups among the Serbian population, in the meantime I will be posting other archives on the Serbian origin, you will not be disappointed or bitter at the end.

The term "Tribals" is often found in the works of Roman and other European authors of the Middle Ages, which referred exclusively to Serbs. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] Some of these authors clearly indicate that "tribal" is a synonym for "Serbian" [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] Nikita Honijat (1155-1215) states the following in his history of the reign of Emperor Jovan Komnin:



"... Shortly afterwards, he led a campaign against the people of the Tribals (who may also be called Serbs) ..."
.. That Mahmud, son of Mihajlo, is Tribal, which means Serb, by his mother and Greek by his father. "


Tribals are a tribe whose history begins in the period of the transition from the Bronze Age to the Iron Age, approximately around 1300 BC. n. e. They are discussed in fragments, and the earliest historians, primarily Greeks, in the area of ​​today's Serbia, ie in Pomoravlje, Podunavlje and Pannonia, speak of Dacians, Tribals and Singins. This is the period around the 6th century BC.


The territory where the Tribals lived in the 5th century BC, according to Herodotus, is located west of the Iskar River in Bulgaria. Among other things, he noted this: "The river Angro flows from the Illyrian country to the north and flows into the Tribal plain and the river Brongo, and Brongo flows into Istria."


It is obvious that it is about the South Morava, that is, about the Great Morava that flows into the Danube. In this way, the Tribal Valley is connected to Pomoravlje and Podunavlje.


According to the research of Dr. Milorad Stojić, the Tribals inhabited the area of ​​the entire Serbian Danube region, completely Pomoravlje, lower Posavina, part of Kolubara, eastern Serbia, northwestern Bulgaria and in the south to Skopje in Macedonia. Discoveries from princely tombs with silver and gold finds can also be linked to them. These are findings, ie belts of the "marble" type, so the continuity of the Tribals in these areas lasts for a thousand and a half years, ie from the 13th century BC until the 2nd century AD. All this is confirmed by the archeological material, the findings from the sites that belong to the Tribals.
News of the Tribals was sporadic until their invasion of what was then Macedonia, as well as the battles that King Philip II of Macedon fought with them. It was 344/3 years he. In his speech on the Tribals, Isocrates notes that they are a powerful and harmonious people. Justin wrote that the Tribals intercepted Philip when he was returning from a campaign against the Scythians looking for part of the booty. As they did not get him, there was a conflict in which Filip was seriously wounded.


In the spring of 335, Alexander the Great went to the powerful and crowded Tribals. He wanted to secure a restless border on that side so that he could later calmly embark on a great campaign towards India. Alexander traveled for ten days until he reached Mount Ham (Balkans). After the victory over the Thracians, he continued towards the river Iskar where he was met by the King of Tribal Sirm. The tribes offered tenacious resistance, but in the end they had to give in to the superior army of the great Alexander the Great.


Because of the unexpectedly strong resistance, which he did not expect, Alexander the Great proudly said: "I conquered Thrace, Illyricum, with the lords of the Tribals and Mezim."


Many hydronyms and toponyms also remind of Tribala.


Tribal, a village in the Crikvenica area,
Triban, a village near Benkovac,
Tribija hamlet in the Visoko region of Bosnia,
Tribunal, peak on Mount Mosor,
Travunija (Herzegovina) has long been called Trivalija in records ...
Sources:


[1] The development of the Komnenian army: 1081–1180., Https://books.google.com/books?id=p8OOoGWRC2EC&redir_esc=y


[2] Stuck Whilhelm (Guilielmus Stukius Tigurinus), Comments on Arriani historici et philosophi Ponti Euxini et maris Erythraei Periplus, Lugduni, 1577, p. 51., https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_Wy0sVhiVMikC#page/n80/mode/1up


[3] John Foxe (1517–1587) Acts and Monuments, Published by R.B. Seeley & W. Burnside, London, 1837, vol. 4, p. 27., https://archive.org/stream/actsmonumentsofj04foxe#page/27/mode/1up


[4] “Balkan history - Thracian tribes”., Http://www.eliznik.org.uk/Bulgaria/history/thracian-tribes.htm


[5] The letters of Manuel II Palaeologus., Https://books.google.com/books?id=AdbgOudLnj4C&redir_esc=y


[6] „JSTOR: The English Historical Review, Vol. 53, no. 209 (Jan., 1938), pp. 129-131 ”., Http://www.jstor.org/stable/554790?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


[7] Mehmed II the Conqueror and the fall of the Franco-Byzantine Levant to the Ottoman Turks Page 65, 77: "Triballians = Serbs"


[8] The letters of Manuel II Palaeologus, p. 48 ,. https://books.google.com/books?id=AdbgOudLnj4C&pg=PA48&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false


[9] The Journal of Hellenic studies Page 48: "Byzantine historians [...] calling [...] Serbs Triballians"., Https://www.jstor.org/stable/625934?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


[10] Studies in late Byzantine history and prosopography, p. 228., "Serbs (were) Triballians,". https://books.google.com/books?id=XnKgAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA228&redir_esc=y


[11] Historia ed J. van Dieten, Nicetae Choniatae historia ..., Berlin, DeGruyter, 1975, chapter "Reign of Lord Ioannes Komnenos", pp. 4-47 (in medieval Greek language)


[12] D. Chalkocondyles (Chalkondyles) cited in C. Paparrigopoulos History of the Greek nation, Athens, 1874, vol. 5, p. 489, in Greek language.


[13] History of Mehmed the Conqueror, p. 115., https://books.google.com/books?id=wdEYAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA115&redir_esc=y


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Source and title of the work:
Putzger - Historischer Weltatlas - Atlas und Chronik zur Weltgeschichte [2nd, extended edition]: Atlas mit Register Gebundene Ausgabe - September 2009
• Completed output: 448 pages
• Verlag: Cornelsen Verlag; Installation: 2nd, full overhaul. (September 2009)
• Language: Deutsch
• ISBN-10: 3464639703
• ISBN-13: 978-3464639702


(II)
Source and title of the work:
Review: Auctarium Chartularii Universitatis Parisiensis. Tomus iii: Liber Procuratorum Nationis Alemanniae by C. Samaran; A. A. van Moé; S. Vitte
Reviewed Work: Auctarium Chartularii Universitatis Parisiensis. Tomus iii: Liber Procuratorum Nationis Alemanniae by C. Samaran, A. A. van Moé, S. Vitte
Review by: G. R. Potter
The English Historical Review
Vol. 53, no. 209 (Jan., 1938), pp. 129-131
Published by: Oxford University Press


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Source and title of the work:
Title: The Last Athenian Historian: Laonikos Chalkokondyles
Author: William Miller
The Journal of Hellenic Studies
Vol. 42, Part 1 (1922), pp. 36-49
Published by: The Society for the Promotion of Hellenic Studies


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Nature does not know about Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians ... all Balkan nations are quite similar, like. eg Norwegians and Swedes. Our differences are purely cultural.
the theory that Serbs are Turkish is totally false, it is generally used by Albanian, Croatian and Bosnian nationalists. Serbian and Turkish DNA are very different
Serbs have very few "Slavs" genes (R-M458, which are considered typically Slovenian genes in our country are represented by a maximum of 12-15%)
Macedonians and Serbs have the most genes (96%). Besides, Greeks and Hungarians are most similar to us.
Here is a list of some peoples by genetic similarity with Serbs:


Macedonia 96%


Greece 66%


Hungary 65%


Ukraine 62%


Romania 61%


Lithuania 57%


Bulgaria 53%


Poland 52%


Italy 51%


Morocco 48%


Tunisia 43%


Turkey 42%


Russia 32%
 
A genetic map that introduced confusion in the Balkans

Sometimes the truth stares straight in the face. This is exactly what happens with every check of origin, a key word, which is often and too often associated with the provocative question: "Which is older: a chicken or an egg?"


However, this opinion is not dedicated to the origin of life. There is no motive to tell and retell the origin of the species, although in the work of the same name Charles Darwin emphasized that "man, with his noble qualities, still bears the indelible stamp of his lower origin in his body frame".


So, the topic is not the cause but the method and consequences of what the hereditary so-called haplogroups, the most important link in the interpretation of the ancient origin of all, even the Balkan peoples.

True for $ 100
The biological myth is written in genes. In hereditary matter, which the world-famous Matt Ridley, in the world bestseller Genome, translated into 50 languages, considers to represent "a kind of autobiography of the human species".


An eternal puzzle, which is as intriguing as it is irritating, regardless of the fact that at the beginning of the third millennium, there is a new, cruelly precise scientific method for determining the personal origin all over the planet.


The conditions are, for the most part, affordable. All you need to do is go to the website of several companies that do this business, pay $ 100 and send a sample of saliva swabs in a test tube. After a few weeks, you will receive an e-mail with a larger document, which contains information about your genes.


It is enough that the confrontation with your most distant genealogy can begin, with a concrete and long-desired explanation from which part of Europe, Asia or Africa a certain percentage of your genes originates and where your ancestors moved during the migratory epochs.


The interest exceeded all assumptions. Genetic geography has developed, a special connection between history and prehistory, both functionally and by mapping. So far, more than a million people from various countries have done these tests, and today a sufficient sample has been obtained, on the basis of which a "genetic map of Europe" was made, which included a genetic map of the Balkans. For the first time, a realistic, scientifically proven picture of who and where Bosniaks, Serbs, Croats, Macedonians or Albanians came from was obtained.


This map began to expand at the speed of light. It is especially popular on nationalist internet forums, where it does not stop producing an avalanche of incendiary comments among those who do not know that a nation is not a biological, that is, genetic, but a cultural phenomenon.


The skirmishes were expected given that the results so far on the origins of the Balkan peoples were based on historical writings and it is now superfluous for each Balkan people to quote a historian who allegedly has proof that the people are the oldest, and all others originated. from them.


However, even without them, most people know family generals, about the place of birth of their parents and their closest predecessors. But when asked what continent your ancestor walked on, they just shrug a little embarrassed even though all the information is available on the website of Eupedia, the largest independent organization dedicated to collecting and analyzing the genetics and origins of the peoples of Europe.

Balkan ‘vegetable soup’
The Balkan mix of heritage is not unusual, although Carl Vouse, in the record-quoted book Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA, persistently convinces that "life has a physical, not a history of genealogy". However, that is not a consolation to the Balkans because, from the point of view of genetics, there are no typically Serbian, Croatian, Bosniak, Macedonian or Albanian genes. That linear language is written in a straight line.


Or, to put it simply, in culinary terms, we are all a kind of "vegetable soup", which is chopped and mixed. Of course, vegetables are haplogroups. The difference is that one bečar-paprika has a little more carrot, and another has a little more celery. But, no nation can claim for itself that it is strictly a "carrot soup" because it contains too many other ingredients, and even all kinds of spices. And all kinds of spices and additives are an inevitable stumbling block.


This is what Bojana Panić and Ana Banjac Čanak, doctors from the DNA Center for Genetics in Belgrade, claim in at least one voice. After daily analyzes of Y-chromosomes, with which they compile family trees, but also help the police, they emphasized for the 24 Sata newspaper: "It is very difficult to be precise and say where, for example, Serbs come from, since every Balkan nation is a mixture of different nations." ”


However, as M. Kotler said in the Bulletin of the History of Medicine, there is no greater blindness than when we do not want to see something. Probably that is why the Balkan dead race on the origin of the people was decided only in the genetic photo finish.


According to molecular-biological findings, the genetic map disclosed across Europe sheds a whole new light on the centuries-old debate and brings several interesting, undeniable facts. As for the Balkan peoples, the main news is that there are no major differences between them. Serbs and Macedonians are almost completely identical (96 percent), and so are Bosniaks and Serbs. Croats have slightly higher estimates of genes from Western Europe, but compared to other haplogroups, they do not have any significant differences.


Albanians are an exception. Haplogroups E2 and E3 are most widespread in North Africa, more precisely, in Morocco and Algeria. They have appeared in Europe only in the last 2000 years, as the most represented haplogroup among Kosovo Albanians. There are a smaller percentage of those haplogroups among Serbs from the south of Serbia and Kosovo.

Introduction to confusion
Unprepared for a cold shower, Balkan nationalists are in turmoil. To put it mildly, they are confused.


No point was put on the research, but by promoting the latest discoveries, genetics offered concrete evidence that erases all doubts about the origin of Albanians, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Serbs, Croats and Macedonians. It has finally been proven that folk legends are pure superstition.


Thus, Croats, Bosniaks, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians are closest to Serbs in the biological fraternity, then in a wider circle Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Austrians, Greeks, Italians, Germans, and very distant in Europe Russians and, say, Moldovans.


This means that almost every Pole is genetically closer to Serbs than almost every Russian, although on the contrary, for most Serbs, an unfulfilled attractive but empty wish is unfulfilled. The paradoxical Serbian desire to adopt a pastoral lifestyle sounds almost like Lamarck's heresy, according to which a blacksmith whose hands have become strong during his life should have children with strong hands, which is an example that the will fails to change the genetic footprint without even pressure.


However, it is obvious that ideological closeness with certain political projects in individuals outweighs genetic closeness. And there is nothing controversial here, except that those individuals for whom ideological brotherhood is more important than genetic brotherhood somehow like to invent and emphasize genetic brotherhood, which they do not have to mask the alleged ideological bias and sell their story based on untruth more easily.


The statement of the "Croat brothers" sounds similar, which is often heard in Serbia in a positive, but also in an ironic context. However, this statement was confirmed as a rule when it comes to the genetic code of the two peoples, which is one of the summaries of the six-year research of DNA profiles of victims (victims) of the Balkans, conducted by the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Skopje. genetic similarity of the Balkan peoples.


"Analysis of the obtained data showed that the inhabitants of Macedonia have the most similar DNA profile with Bulgarians and Serbs, Croats with Bosniaks and Serbs," repeated Dr. Zlatko Jakovski from this Institute, whose results are used for all criminal investigations into victims from this area.

The myth of the great migration of Slavs was shattered
Of course, as always, science is the best remedy against dogmatism, lies and manipulation of all kinds. One should know, however, that genetic maps are not as clear as linguistic ones, but they are more subtle. The findings of Geneva's Igene, supplemented by domestic research, point to such a conclusion.


They shattered the decades-old myth of the great migration of Slavs to the Balkan wasteland because the Slavic gene is little expressed in all today's peoples in the Balkans, including a modest percentage of descendants among Serbs (30 percent), Croats (20 percent) and Bosniaks (15 percent). When everything is added and subtracted, suggests prof. Dr. Omer Ibrahimagic, "Bosnians and Herzegovinians are, to the greatest extent, the heirs of the Illyrians (40 percent), Germans (20 percent) and Celts (15 percent), and only then the Slavs (10 percent).


So, the key to understanding the history of Bosnia and Herzegovina is not in the Slavic but in the Illyrian era, in genetically mixed blood-related haplogroups, very similar for Croats and Bosniaks. According to haplogroups, Albanians are twice as close to Turks as Serbs and Macedonians, and Bosniaks are the furthest away.


And that's not all. No nation has a single haplogroup. We are all a bit "they". That is why all anatomy, physiology, pathology, physical medicine and rehabilitation are taught in all biological-medical studies.


Although the haplogroups do not have final releases either.

https://balkans.aljazeera.net/blogs/2017/4/8/genetska-mapa-koja-je-uvela-pometnju-na-balkanu
 
I want to come to a subject that has nothing to do with haplogroups, on the text of Dobrica Cosic
"We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our own and someone else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a feature of our patriotism and proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively. "

This alleged, is unfortunately used by the Croatian, Bosnian and Albanian media, internet debates, and politics. The novel "Deobe" is about the Serbian Chetniks and Partisans conflict (Yugoslavia). The novel is in fact a metaphor for the divisions in the history and tradition of the Serbian people. Is taken out of context this passage from Ćosić's novel reads as follows


"Slavery, that is, deadly truths, that is why lies are shouted and whispered, to each and everyone. The occupier lies, the traitors lie, the freedom fighters lie too, we lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our own and someone else's misery. We lie for love and love. "honesty. We lie for the sake of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively. For this lie under occupation and the ordinary idiot has more than imagination than many novelists. Lying is a necessity, biological, psychological, national, political. Belgrade these days - it is the apocalypse of lies. "


By the Croatian, Bosnian and Albanian media, he is declared as "father of the Serbian nation".

https://kupdf.net/download/dobrica-osi-deobe_598090ffdc0d60ac192bb17f_pdf
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