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    Question Would you support another country's team in football?

    It's the Euro 2020 and discussion in another thread made me wonder whether most people systematically cheered their own country's team, or if they could have a different favourite team, either because they like the players better, or because they may not feel bound to imperatively support the country in which they were born and/or grew up (or where their ancestors came from for people living outside Europe)?

    As a child and teenager I watched mostly tennis tournaments and my favourite players had nothing to do with nationality and everything to do with style and personality. Yet, in my experience, when it comes to football almost everyone around me supports their own country, as if that was a civic duty. That makes me wonder whether they are watching the games out of a sense of tribalistic pride or for the actual sport and the quality of the team and individual players?

    Nowadays I don't have much time to follow any sport to be knowledgeable about the players. I leave that to the true fans. But I do not feel compelled either to support exclusively Belgium. Be it football or other team sports, or even country medals at the upcoming Tokyo Olympic Games (already starting in 3 weeks), I tend to favour countries that I generally like culture-wise. That includes England/Britain, Italy and Japan.

    And although I am a French speaker and know French history and culture better than the average French person, I usually do not support France because of the typical attitude of French supporters. I was particularly happy to see France loose to Switzerland in the Euro 2020, as several French sports commentators on TV had mocked the Belgian team and told them to go home and eat chips/fries. A lot of French people like to mock Belgium in very much the same way as Barney Stinson mocks Canada in the series How I Met Your Mother.
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    It is some kind of tribalism supported by lots of marketing.
    There is a lot of commerce involved, both for sellers of gadgets as for the media, the UEFA, the football teams and the players themselves.
    The bol.com commercial is bashing the Dutch. If it were in another context and with some other people, they would feel offended and it would have been seen as politicaly incorrect.




    The media are also instigating rivalry between nations in a way they themselves would condemn if it came from other people in another context.
    Last week there were some comments from France telling the Belgian team would be home soon eating french fries, something Belgian commentators picked up as 'typical french arrogance'.

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    I'll watch the EK finals and semi-finals, but in general I'm not very interested in football.
    I was much more impressed by what MVDP did earlier this week on the mur de Bretagne twice within half an hour.


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    I think for some countries, the tribal nature of their support could only go as far as civic nationalism. For example, the French national team is more representative of African, than French, from an ethnic-standpoint:


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    Italy - Belgium … that was Soccer at the Highest Level, from both sides,
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    I could support another team but they have to play exciting soccer with direct passes to the wings instead of just passing it around so that you don't lose possession. The Italian team has played exciting soccer so far where as the Spanish team has not. The Spanish team takes way to much time to bring the ball forward and by that time the opposing team has gone on defense and it is hard to see any openings and they just pass the ball around so as not to lose possession.

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    I thought that Belgium and Switzerland did very well and so did Chechia and Ukraine.

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    If Italy is playing, I support Italy, and it has nothing to do with marketing. If I even thought of it, my dad would probably appear to haunt me. :) He was still mourning the tragic loss of our whole team in a plane crash decades after it happened.

    It's deeply personal for me. You can see it's deeply personal for the Italian team as well. It's one of the reasons they've been fun to watch, imo. I think it's going to be very personal for England as well.

    I can't say the same for some of the national teams in this tournament.

    If they're not playing, it's different. Then, other factors come into play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I think for some countries, the tribal nature of their support could only go as far as civic nationalism. For example, the French national team is more representative of African, than French, from an ethnic-standpoint:

    compare it to the great 1984 french squad

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    Platini literally carried the entire team on his shoulder, he practically won that Eurocup alone. An animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    compare it to the great 1984 french squad

    looking at the names of those players it seems like they already had quite a few non-ethnic french in the team.

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    Yes 3 of them they had italian or
    Spanish surname...
    There look was more uniform
    Basicly except 1 they were all white europeans
    When today the french squad is a different story

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    … got more room on my wall for a 2020 Campioni d’Europa poster :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … got more room on my wall for a 2020 Campioni d’Europa poster :)

    "From your lips to God's ear", as my Jewish friends say! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … got more room on my wall for a 2020 Campioni d’Europa poster :)

    Nice squadra azzurra.

    I only support the Galo.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    Yes 3 of them they had italian or
    Spanish surname...
    There look was more uniform
    Basicly except 1 they were all white europeans
    When today the french squad is a different story
    if we look at who is not ethnic french it shouldn't really matter if they were "white" or not imo. it has no relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailchu View Post
    if we look at who is not ethnic french it shouldn't really matter if they were "white" or not imo. it has no relevance.
    The french squad always had it even back in 1984

    P.s
    I know it is not politically correct
    But i do appeicate european national team
    Were all the players are from the same ethnicity
    And uniform by look..
    Like:
    italy, denmark, poland etc......
    But that is my opinion we dont have to agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    The french squad always had it even back in 1984
    P.s
    I know it is not politically correct
    But i do appeicate european national team
    Were all the players are from the same ethnicity
    And uniform by look..
    Like:
    italy, denmark, poland etc......
    But that is my opinion we dont have to agree
    Also Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … got more room on my wall for a 2020 Campioni d’Europa poster :)

    Congratulations Salento. Congratulations Italy for the conquest of Eurocup 2021.

    The incapacity of the English players to charge a penalty well saved the reputation of the Italian naturalized Brazilian, Jorginho, who, if it were in Brazil, would go to vinegar due to the terrible penalty charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Congratulations Salento. Congratulations Italy for the conquest of Eurocup 2021.

    The incapacity of the English players to charge a penalty well saved the reputation of the Italian naturalized Brazilian, Jorginho, who, if it were in Brazil, would go to vinegar due to the terrible penalty charge.
    No one will remember that , he will be remembered as a winner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Congratulations Salento. Congratulations Italy for the conquest of Eurocup 2021.

    The incapacity of the English players to charge a penalty well saved the reputation of the Italian naturalized Brazilian, Jorginho, who, if it were in Brazil, would go to vinegar due to the terrible penalty charge.
    It’s coming home … to Rome :)

    Soccer is a team sport and we all win or lose together. Great players are not defined by a single moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    It’s coming home … to Rome :)

    Soccer is a team sport and we all win or lose together. Great players are not defined by a single moment.
    Yes, soccer is a team sport but is a fact that, in the win, the success is of everyone, but in defeat, the nonconformings always looking for a scapegoat.

    The victory and the Italian title exempt the mistakes by chance made by the players in the game, but if the title had been lost, probably many would be trying to name the culprits and the penalty takers would not be exempt of guilty. What are the British thinking about the performance of their stars in taking penalties? Are athletes and the technical committee to blame? Wasn’t necessary to practice more, in training, this basic fundament of soccer and for which athletes should be prepared in a decision between two teams that reached the grand final so equal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    It’s coming home … to Rome :)

    Soccer is a team sport and we all win or lose together. Great players are not defined by a single moment.
    But best of all was said by my son.: “Two young teams that promise a lot for the next world cup. Two great contenders for the next world title. Two great teams. The title won by Italy was valued by the brave and good English team.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    But best of all was said by my son.: “Two young teams that promise a lot for the next world cup. Two great contenders for the next world title. Two great teams. The title won by Italy was valued by the brave and good English team.”
    edit…
    last time Italy wasn’t there, … which is why this title was all about redemption.
    Last edited by Salento; 12-07-21 at 03:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Italy won’t be there, … which is why this title was all about redemption.
    No. Italy can be there. Is the leader of Group C of Cup Playoffs Europe. The next match will be against Bulgary. September 2, 2021

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/copa-do...torias-europa/

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