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    aDNA (Dodecad K12b)

    I decided to close the previous discussion, to start fresh with all of the aDNA samples re-processed with a uniform labeling.

    Here are my results for the Dodecad K12b individual sample format I put together.

    I would like this thread to be the new development area for expanding on Dodecad K12b samples. So we could have a universal labeling system. We have plenty of un-labeled samples that need to be done, some of them I need to prune out.

    Here is a link to the file with the values for vahaduo.

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/gba5f...30-21.txt/file


    My top 100 closest samples:

    Distance to: Jovialis
    3.25777531 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
    3.28435686 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
    3.32683032 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
    3.39439243 Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
    3.51115366 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:An tonio_2019
    3.64458502 TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    3.67854591 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
    3.89204317 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
    4.07025798 Collegno121:Amorim_2018
    4.09070899 VEN006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.15604379 VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.19606959 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
    4.29329710 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
    4.37202470 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_20 19
    4.44950559 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
    4.69323982 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
    4.95721696 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
    5.01646290 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
    5.08536134 VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    5.39290274 VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    5.47493379 C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:An tonio_2019
    5.76386155 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
    5.86133944 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
    5.90817231 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
    5.92265988 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:An tonio_2019
    5.99387187 C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antoni o_2019
    6.16317288 VEN016:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.16940030 C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
    6.20596487 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
    6.45382057 C6-Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_Imperial_Rome:R1544:Ant onio_2019
    6.48596176 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_20 19
    6.49152524 C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
    6.62512641 C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
    6.66802819 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:An tonio_2019
    6.67812099 C6-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1549:Antonio_2019
    6.78350942 TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.90675032 Szolad40:Amorim_2018
    6.96423004 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
    6.96825660 C6-Palestrina_Imperial_Rome:R436:Antonio_2019
    7.02145284 C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R136:Antonio_201 9
    7.04449430 ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.08010593 TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.10228836 ETR003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.11866561 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:An tonio_2019
    7.16643566 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
    7.20007639 C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antoni o_2019
    7.21878106 Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    7.24289997 TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.74268687 VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.76465067 Collegno110:Amorim_2018
    7.86690536 Szolad36:Amorim_2018
    7.99968749 Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
    8.08818892 C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
    8.41327522 POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    8.57403639 TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    8.57445625 Szolad31:Amorim_2018
    8.58829436 Szolad37:Amorim_2018
    8.62318387 ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.17616478 SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
    9.25591703 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
    9.26545736 Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    9.44833848 TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.48255767 ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.76431769 ETR007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.92680714 VEN009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.98820805 Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
    10.01973553 Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    10.04546664 Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antoni o_2019
    10.13525037 C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_201 9
    10.17862957 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
    10.25805537 C5-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R114:Antoni o_2019
    10.36280367 Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
    10.45288955 C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
    10.55296641 Collegno36:Amorim_2018
    10.70497081 MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
    10.71053220 C5-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R50:Antonio_20 19
    10.78399740 Straubing_Bajuwarenstraße-Female:STR502b:Veeramah_2018
    10.82643524 Szolad19:Amorim_2018
    10.91089364 C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
    10.97415600 Collegno25:Amorim_2018
    11.06943991 VEN012:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.16845110 VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.18770754 Scythian:scy305:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    11.27961879 Szolad43:Amorim_2018
    11.29783165 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R51:Antonio_20 19
    11.46507305 Thraco-Cimmerian:MJ-12:Jarve_2019
    11.53736972 Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
    11.59736177 I5015:Olalde_2018
    11.79189552 Vucedol:I3499:Mathieson_2018
    12.00925060 Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
    12.35336796 MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.47064954 C5-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R69:Antonio_2019
    12.59064335 C5-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1548:Antonio_2019
    12.60345588 Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fern andes_2020
    13.34197886 Collegno38:Amorim_2018
    13.35992515 ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    13.55969395 Szolad1:Amorim_2018
    13.61742266 C5-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R133:Antonio_201 9
    13.83752868 Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
    13.85157753 C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R39:Antonio_2 019
    Last edited by Jovialis; 31-08-21 at 13:49.

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    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1e

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    Country: Italy



    3 members found this post helpful.
    Mine :)

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    3.43011662 Szolad31:Amorim_2018
    3.44400929 Szolad36:Amorim_2018
    3.71212877 Collegno36:Amorim_2018
    4.12127407 ETR007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.21513938 Szolad43:Amorim_2018
    4.68264882 Vucedol:I3499:Mathieson_2018
    4.68931765 Protovillanovan_IA:R1:Antonio_2019
    4.83184230 Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    5.25950568 C7-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R33:Antonio_2019
    5.55229682 Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    5.57919349 Szolad37:Amorim_2018
    5.70363919 Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
    5.87326144 Collegno23:Amorim_2018
    5.96436920 TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.09997541 C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
    6.18798836 POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.25171976 C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R55:Antonio_2019
    6.31981012 TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.43351381 Croatia_EMBA:I4332:Mathieson_2018
    6.68472139 TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.83624166 Hungary_BA:I7041:Olalde_2018
    6.89893470 Hungary_BA:I7043:Olalde_2018
    7.05863301 Croatia_EMBA:I4331:Mathieson_2018
    7.07541518 Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    7.10973980 MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
    7.13288862 MOK31:Zegarac_2021
    7.29406608 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:An tonio_2019
    7.43797688 Szolad28:Amorim_2018
    7.45917556 Burgweinting–Nord-West_II_(ADH)_388-532calADA_Female:NW54:Veeramah_2018
    7.52278539 Thraco-Cimmerian:MJ-12:Jarve_2019
    7.64956208 I5015:Olalde_2018
    7.80932776 TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.97270970 Szolad1:Amorim_2018
    8.02461214 Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antoni o_2019
    8.03052925 Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log04:Clemente_2021
    8.33039615 ETR003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    8.36071767 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
    8.40716956 Croatia_LBA:I3313:Mathieson_2018
    8.52155502 I3593:Olalde_2018
    8.62461593 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
    8.85048021 La_Tène_IA:ERS88:Brunel_2020
    9.04734768 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
    9.15007104 SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
    9.15716659 ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.18148681 C6-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1549:Antonio_2019
    9.18804658 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:An tonio_2019
    9.21490640 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
    9.34752374 MOK13:Zegarac_2021
    9.37029882 I8475:Olalde_2019
    9.65467762 Etruscan_IA:R474:Antonio_2019


    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.7728% / 0.77281689 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    49.0 Szolad36
    28.2 C7-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity
    13.5 ETR007
    9.3 C7-Villa_Magna_MA


    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.3838% / 0.38382846 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    68.3 Szolad36
    15.1 MOK27
    10.4 C7-Villa_Magna_MA
    3.2 Protovillanovan_IA
    3.0 ETR007

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    3 members found this post helpful.


    The aDNA (Dodecad K12b) oracle is now available in the latest admixture studio suite.

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    Thanks Jovialis:

    Distance to: Duarte
    6.29654667 I10892:Olalde_2019
    6.83142738 NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10895:Olalde_2019
    7.15328596 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3585:Olalde_2019
    7.40270896 I12516:Olalde_2019
    7.51741312 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12514:Olalde_2019
    7.79453013 C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R63:Antonio_2019
    7.96743999 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3981:Olalde_2019
    7.98827891 I10852:Olalde_2019
    8.29628230 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12649:Olalde_2019
    8.57093927 Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    8.65500433 I3982:Olalde_2019
    8.79383307 NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I7675:Olalde_2019
    8.85043502 NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10853:Olalde_2019
    8.94111291 I1313:Olalde_2019
    8.99556557 C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R110:Antonio_2019
    9.25598725 TAQ001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.29074809 C7-Cancelleria_MA:R1289:Antonio_2019
    9.38223321 Beaker_Central_Europe:I6534:Olalde_2018
    9.53438514 Balkans_N:I2215:Mathieson_2018
    9.54338514 I7673:Olalde_2019
    9.70848598 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I7457:Olalde_2019
    9.75401456 C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R109:Antonio_2019
    9.77754570 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12515:Olalde_2019
    9.93724811 Prenestini_IA:R435:Antonio_2019
    10.02437529 France_LBA:NIED:Brunel_2020
    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.0623% / 0.06234517 | R7P
    31.8 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
    24.8 Beaker_Central_Europe
    13.9 I7425
    13.5 I8146
    7.8 ZVEJ31
    4.7 ATP20
    3.5 Bulgaria_EBA


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.0997% / 0.09973979 | R6P
    51.5 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
    17.6 I8146
    14.3 I7425
    10.3 Unetice
    6.3 ZVEJ31


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.0935% / 0.09346508 | R5P
    47.4 Beaker_Central_Europe
    24.1 utigGLR003B1
    19.9 I8146
    8.6 ZVEJ31


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.1273% / 0.12730154 | R4P
    46.7 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
    24.5 I7425
    19.7 Beaker_Central_Europe
    9.1 Iron_Gates_HG


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.2895% / 0.28954755 | R3P
    80.0 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
    11.5 Beaker_Central_Europe
    8.5 ZVEJ31


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 1.0268% / 1.02680963 | R2P
    87.8 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
    12.2 ZVEJ31



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    Jovialis: Thanks for your work. My top 100 distances (I used gradient of 100 for clearer presentation).

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    2.38784422 VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    2.62716577 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
    3.32924916 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
    3.62603089 C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:An tonio_2019
    3.69010840 C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
    3.93635618 C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antoni o_2019
    4.04278369 VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.05677212 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
    4.15007229 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
    4.24855269 VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.45331337 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_20 19
    4.47671755 Szolad40:Amorim_2018
    4.52726187 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
    4.61280826 TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.63776886 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:An tonio_2019
    4.75106304 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
    4.75644825 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
    4.81801826 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
    5.00765414 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
    5.04013889 Collegno121:Amorim_2018
    5.06459278 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_20 19
    5.10433149 Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
    5.20676483 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:An tonio_2019
    5.36587365 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:An tonio_2019
    5.48053829 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
    5.69498903 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
    5.70232409 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
    5.75256465 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
    6.00515612 C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
    6.12952690 TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.18293620 VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.18618622 VEN006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.22772029 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
    6.31031695 C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antoni o_2019
    6.32858594 C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R136:Antonio_201 9
    6.44542473 ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.46209718 VEN016:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    6.47404047 C6-Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese_Imperial_Rome:R1544:Ant onio_2019
    6.75775111 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
    6.90534576 C6-Palestrina_Imperial_Rome:R436:Antonio_2019
    7.16792857 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
    7.19765240 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:An tonio_2019
    7.28809303 ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    7.51646859 Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
    7.74022609 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
    8.15834542 TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    8.19715804 C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
    8.25432614 Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fern andes_2020
    8.26566997 C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_201 9
    8.27431568 C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
    8.33628814 C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
    8.49709951 TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.00604797 C5-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R50:Antonio_20 19
    9.12014254 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
    9.12294360 Collegno25:Amorim_2018
    9.17092689 MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.23174415 ETR003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.28861669 Collegno110:Amorim_2018
    9.35309040 ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.41303883 C6-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1549:Antonio_2019
    9.43180789 Straubing_Bajuwarenstraße-Female:STR502b:Veeramah_2018
    9.52039915 TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.64593697 C5-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R114:Antoni o_2019
    9.66414507 Szolad19:Amorim_2018
    9.68985036 Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    9.69902057 SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
    9.73570747 TAQ007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.77836898 Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
    9.78230034 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R51:Antonio_20 19
    9.79699954 C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
    9.87760092 POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.96464249 C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
    10.24454001 Szolad36:Amorim_2018
    10.34220479 C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R45:Antonio_2 019
    10.37951829 Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antoni o_2019
    10.49192547 VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.62509765 VEN009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.67940541 TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.70107004 Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
    10.73998603 VEN012:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.99398472 I8215:Olalde_2019
    11.02007260 Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
    11.34149461 Szolad31:Amorim_2018
    11.39613970 C5-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R133:Antonio_201 9
    11.44593378 MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
    11.58488671 ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.60487398 Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
    11.75412268 Collegno38:Amorim_2018
    11.88780888 Collegno30:Amorim_2018
    11.89334268 C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R39:Antonio_2 019
    11.89848310 C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R34:Antonio_2019
    12.08574367 Szolad37:Amorim_2018
    12.10581265 C5-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1548:Antonio_2019
    12.14339327 C3-Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R80:Antonio _2019
    12.39056496 C5-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R69:Antonio_2019
    12.44673049 VET008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.47428956 Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
    12.54885254 Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
    12.58129961 C5-Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R81:Antonio _2019
    12.61072163 Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)



    Target: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    Distance: 0.4683% / 0.46825756 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    44.9 VEN015
    32.0 C6-Villa_Magna_MA
    14.0 VEN005
    6.2 Armenoi_Crete
    2.6 Bon005
    0.3 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity

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    Antonio_2019 listed the "o" ...

    Latini_o:R850:Antonio_2019 should be Latini_IA:R850:Antonio_2019 ... imho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Antonio_2019 listed the "o" ...
    Latini_o:R850:Antonio_2019 should be Latini_IA:R850:Antonio_2019 ... imho
    I wanted the labeling to strictly rely on information given by the studies.
    Nevertheless, I speculate the more they explore samples in Italy, particularly the South Italian IA, they will find R437's was more common in certain places. I am going to post about this later, but catacomb culture, Balkans_IA, Bronze Hungary, Minoans, and C7 IA samples that compose Roman Republicans, make for a good fit for Italians north and south, at different percentages. R437, and a majority of C6 samples, as well as myself show a particularly affinity to Catacomb culture 20-25% + Minoans 50-60%, with random percentages of the other components. Catacomb Culture actually peaks in Apulia around 25%, with a large percentage being Minoan. I have mentioned in another thread that there are strong cultural similarities with Italic, Celtic, Iranic, Greek and Scythian culture.

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    Here are the coordinates I am using in the Multi Tab for comparison.

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    Roman_Republic_IA_(n=5),2.768,0.352,1.08,0.216,46.596,23.37,0.24,0.13,3.82,0.022,20.916,0.498
    Minoan_BA_(n=11),1.470909091,0.219090909,2.566363636,0.116363636,39.59181818,0.055454545,0.012727273,0.158181818,14.39,0.136363636,41.06272727,0.221818182
    Mycenaean_BA_(n=4),2.02,0.3325,2.42,0.2875,37.715,7.3875,0.695,0.1625,10.025,0.2675,37.7425,0.9425
    Balkans_IA,2.57,0,2.28,0,37.94,13.19,0,0,9.59,0.01,34.31,0.12
    Catacomb_Culture_BA_(n=5),27.94,2.852,0,0.196,3.526,56.796,1.132,0,0,0,6.156,1.396
    Hungarian_BA_(n=2),0.545,0,0.19,0,40.905,48.18,0,0,1.87,0,8.135,0.18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I wanted the labeling to strictly rely on information given by the studies.
    Nevertheless, I speculate the more they explore samples in Italy, particularly the South Italian IA, they will find R437's was more common in certain places. I am going to post about this later, but catacomb culture, Balkans_IA, Bronze Hungary, Minoans, and C7 IA samples that compose Roman Republicans, make for a good fit for Italians north and south, at different percentages. R437, and a majority of C6 samples, as well as myself show a particularly affinity to Catacomb culture 20-25% + Minoans 50-60%, with random percentages of the other components. Catacomb Culture actually peaks in Apulia around 25%, with a large percentage being Minoan. I have mentioned in another thread that there are strong cultural similarities with Italic, Celtic, Iranic, Greek and Scythian culture.
    I see, … though Antonio labels as “o” one Iron-Age Etruscan, … she would have done the same thing if she thought that R850 and R437 deserve “o” status. I think :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    The PCA contains C6 samples that have a fit of at least less than 5.00 or better, with who are around 60-70% Minoan, around 20-30% Catacomb Culture.

    I find it compelling that given the archeological information, and the goodness of fit with these components. I wonder if this could be roughly represent the ethnogenesis of Southern Italian IA people.






    Catacomb peaks in the southeast, while Hungarian BA peaks in the northeast:


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    Here is a 3D perspective from the side, of this cluster.

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    … these Taq - Etr - Ven are probably much younger than what MTA says, … doubt they date back to BC and the Iron Age.


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    Honestly, I don't know how they could give any label to the samples with any degree of confidence. Unless they somehow were able to get insider information.

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    post deleted, correct model is in post 17 below. Sorry about that
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    Using 0.25*RC option, get model admixture with must Mycenaean and Hungarian BA.
    nce | ADC: 0.25x RC Balkans_IA Catacomb_Culture_BA_(n=5) Hungarian_BA_(n=2) Minoan_BA_(n=11) Mycenaean_BA_(n=4) Roman_Republic_IA_(n=5)
    PalermoTrapani_Combined 3.31938313 0.0 24.0 0.0 76.0 0.0 0.0
    Average 3.31938313 0.0 24.0 0.0 76.0 0.0 0.0

    Hmm, I am actually getting Catacomb and Minoan but when I copy it here it is putting things in wrong place maybe should just snip and paste in imgur.
    Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 09-09-21 at 22:53.

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    Scrap my previous post 15 and 16, this is the correct one. Seems when I copied and pasted directly from vahauo for this multi calculator, it put % in wrong columns. The Imgur link below is my correct model. Anyone else have problems with that? So as an heads up might want to make sure if you copy directly from vahaduo, it puts the % from a source population in correct column with correct Source Population. My post 16 was copied and it was incorrect.


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    ... out of curiosity, ... adding the Foggia Vikings on SOURCE:

    Code:
    VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
    VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
    VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... out of curiosity, ... adding the Foggia Vikings on SOURCE:

    Code:
    VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
    VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
    VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
    VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
    VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30
    Dodecad K12b (Jovialis) + Salento’s BR003 X MTA (125 samples)

    Distance to: Duarte
    6.29654667 I10892:Olalde_2019
    6.83142738 NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10895:Olalde_2019
    7.15328596 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3585:Olalde_2019
    7.40270896 I12516:Olalde_2019
    7.51741312 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12514:Olalde_2019
    7.79453013 C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R63:Antonio_2019
    7.96743999 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3981:Olalde_2019
    7.98827891 I10852:Olalde_2019
    8.29628230 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12649:Olalde_2019
    8.57093927 Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    8.65500433 I3982:Olalde_2019
    8.79383307 NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I7675:Olalde_2019
    8.85043502 NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10853:Olalde_2019
    8.94111291 I1313:Olalde_2019
    8.99556557 C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R110:Antonio_2019
    9.25598725 TAQ001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    9.29074809 C7-Cancelleria_MA:R1289:Antonio_2019
    9.38223321 Beaker_Central_Europe:I6534:Olalde_2018
    9.53438514 Balkans_N:I2215:Mathieson_2018
    9.54338514 I7673:Olalde_2019
    9.70848598 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I7457:Olalde_2019
    9.75401456 C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R109:Antonio_2019
    9.77754570 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12515:Olalde_2019
    9.78898360 Salento’s_BRC003_Dodecad_K12b
    9.93724811 Prenestini_IA:R435:Antonio_2019
    10.02437529 France_LBA:NIED:Brunel_2020
    10.02652482 Beaker_Central_Europe:I6581:Olalde_2018
    10.08496406 Etruscan_IA:R474:Antonio_2019
    10.09213060 I10866:Olalde_2019
    10.11679297 utigGCP002A1:Saupe_2021
    10.16175674 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3584:Olalde_2019
    10.20708088 TAQ016:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.26428760 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I7498:Olalde_2019
    10.27705211 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I3809:Olalde_2019
    10.28605367 C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R105:Antonio_2019
    10.32874145 Collegno94:Amorim_2018
    10.35823827 CSN012:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.40551777 CSN010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.46131923 Sardinia_Early_Medieval_Grotta_Colombi:I12221:Fern andes_2020
    10.54973459 utigGCP003A1:Saupe_2021
    10.80122678 NE_Iberia_Late_RomP:I8343:Olalde_2019
    10.82643524 CSN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    10.86018876 C7-Cancelleria_MA:R1221:Antonio_2019
    10.87721012 utigBRC002:Saupe_2021
    10.97969490 TAQ015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.01859338 TAQ013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.02664954 I3574:Olalde_2019
    11.02714832 Beaker_Northern_Italy:I2478:Olalde_2018
    11.06370191 CSN006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.06429392 SE_Iberia_BA:I8571:Olalde_2019
    11.12235587 CSN008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.12975292 I12647:Olalde_2019
    11.17486018 I10897:Olalde_2019
    11.19851329 TAQ024:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.23924375 CSN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.25954262 Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    11.27079412 I3594:Olalde_2018
    11.31809171 I10851:Olalde_2019
    11.39219031 I7040:Olalde_2018
    11.41465286 MOK26A:Zegarac_2021
    11.47675912 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3579:Olalde_2019
    11.48003484 PRZ002:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.49482927 Wartau_(CH):SX18:Furtwängler_2020
    11.50595498 TAQ004:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.53930674 CAM001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.56358508 I5759:Olalde_2018
    11.62877896 utigBRC007_019:Saupe_2021
    11.64089773 VET001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.64606801 I7045:Olalde_2018
    11.66283842 TAQ008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.70276036 I3577:Olalde_2019
    11.76165805 I5524:Olalde_2018
    11.78714554 I0462:Olalde_2018
    11.81583260 CSN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.83354131 CSN003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.85137967 NE_Iberia_RomP_out:I10865:Olalde_2019
    11.85893334 MOK29A:Zegarac_2021
    11.86776306 Beaker_Central_Europe:I7044:Olalde_2018
    11.87767233 TAQ017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.93160090 TAQ019:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    11.94945605 C7-Cancelleria_MA:R1224:Antonio_2019
    11.96303055 I8203:Olalde_2019
    11.96999165 Oberbipp_Horgen_(CH):MX299:Furtwängler_2020
    12.00252473 I8475:Olalde_2019
    12.00538629 VET010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.04995436 NE_Iberia_Greek_(Empúries1):I8209:Olalde_2019
    12.08740253 VET003_4:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.08808091 CAM003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.09549916 Beaker_Central_Europe:I5022:Olalde_2018
    12.10366473 VOL001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.13397297 TAQ005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.16335069 Hungary_BA:I7041:Olalde_2018
    12.25206513 ETR005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.25319550 utigBRC010_018:Saupe_2021
    12.30531999 Collegno23:Amorim_2018
    12.33097320 Singen_(D):MX277:Furtwängler_2020
    12.34921050 Bulgaria_BA:I2520:Mathieson_2018
    12.39861686 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3582:Olalde_2019
    12.41769302 Villanovan_IA:R1015:Antonio_2019
    12.46880107 I3239:Olalde_2019
    12.47746769 Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020
    12.51164258 bns023-b1e1l1:Krzewinska_2018_(Sept)
    12.53403367 E_Iberia_IA:I3320:Olalde_2019
    12.53497507 SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3575:Olalde_2019
    12.60507041 PRZ001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.62638111 I12034:Olalde_2019
    12.63142114 Beaker_Iberia:I6539:Olalde_2018
    12.64792868 I1977:Olalde_2019
    12.65163626 Sicily_EBA_Isnello:I8561:Fernandes_2020
    12.65798562 Etruscan_IA:R473:Antonio_2019
    12.68581885 NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I3775:Olalde_2019
    12.70182270 I7425:Olalde_2019
    12.71337878 Balkans_N:I1113:Mathieson_2018
    12.73058129 I3590:Olalde_2018
    12.80622895 Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017
    12.82519785 SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12644:Olalde_2019
    12.85167693 I7676:Olalde_2019
    12.87704159 Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR4:Brunel_2020
    12.89681356 Burgweinting–Nord-West_II_(ADH)_388-532calADA_Female:NW54:Veeramah_2018
    12.89724389 TAQ002:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    12.92599706 Beaker_Central_Europe:I2364:Olalde_2018
    12.93228131 NE_Iberia_c6CE_PL:I12033:Olalde_2019
    12.93309321 I5520:Olalde_2018
    12.94545480 por003:Valdiosera_2018
    12.95701740 I3581:Olalde_2019


    Distance to:
    Duarte
    16.97283712 VK538_Dod_K12b
    21.71103867 VK536_Dod_K12b
    24.99635573 VK535_Dod_K12b
    26.67684014 VK537_Dod_K12b
    32.55454961 VK534_Dod_K12b


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    Salento: Top 30 which gets me VK535 and VK536 at position #26 and #30, respectively.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    2.38784422 VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    2.62716577 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
    3.32924916 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
    3.62603089 C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:An tonio_2019
    3.69010840 C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
    3.93635618 C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antoni o_2019
    4.04278369 VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.05677212 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
    4.15007229 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
    4.24855269 VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.45331337 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_20 19
    4.47671755 Szolad40:Amorim_2018
    4.52726187 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
    4.61280826 TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
    4.63776886 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:An tonio_2019
    4.75106304 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
    4.75644825 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
    4.81801826 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
    5.00765414 C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
    5.04013889 Collegno121:Amorim_2018
    5.06459278 C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_20 19
    5.10433149 Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
    5.20676483 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:An tonio_2019
    5.36587365 C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:An tonio_2019
    5.48053829 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
    5.52786577 VK535_Dod_K12b
    5.69498903 C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
    5.70232409 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
    5.75256465 C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
    5.87170333 VK536_Dod_K12b

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    @PT … I'm glad you figured it out :)

    @Duarte … maybe you're closer to these two Vikings from the North, they’re y T … VK398 is Scandinavian (Sweden):

    Code:
    VK17_Dod_K12b,2.47,2.89,0.05,0.68,28.23,60.27,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,3.77,1.58
    VK398_Dod_K12b,8.38,2.47,0.53,0.00,35.05,41.08,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,9.88,2.14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @PT … I'm glad you figured it out :)

    @Duarte … maybe you're closer to these two Vikings from the North, they’re y T … VK398 is Scandinavian (Sweden):

    Code:
    VK17_Dod_K12b,2.47,2.89,0.05,0.68,28.23,60.27,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,3.77,1.58
    VK398_Dod_K12b,8.38,2.47,0.53,0.00,35.05,41.08,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,9.88,2.14
    Thank you Salento. I am not close of these two Vikings also. I think the closest I get to a Viking is when I watch a movie or series in which they are the main characters. lol.

    Distance to:
    Duarte
    21.15277760 VK398_Dod_K12b
    41.69623124 VK17_Dod_K12b





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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @PT … I'm glad you figured it out :)

    @Duarte … maybe you're closer to these two Vikings from the North, they’re y T … VK398 is Scandinavian (Sweden):

    Code:
    VK17_Dod_K12b,2.47,2.89,0.05,0.68,28.23,60.27,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,3.77,1.58
    VK398_Dod_K12b,8.38,2.47,0.53,0.00,35.05,41.08,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,9.88,2.14

    Salento: Yes, the old saying a "blind squirrel finds an acorn". But I kept looking at it and it was not aligned with the Sicily Model that Jovialis reported and the other Southern Italian Regions that My Dodecad Distances usually converge with very tightly.

    Thanks for the Viking Dodecad Coordinates again.

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    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Distance to: Torziok12b
    6.35530487 VK538_Dod_K12b
    15.88170331 VK536_Dod_K12b
    18.43716627 VK398_Dod_K12b
    19.09991361 VK535_Dod_K12b
    19.21669326 VK537_Dod_K12b
    22.88397037 I5769_Balkans_IronAge
    24.09594157 VK534_Dod_K12b
    38.27756523 VK17_Dod_K12b



    Sample: VK538 / Italy_Foggia-1249
    Location: Cancarro, Foggia, Italy
    Age: Medieval 11-13th centuries CE
    Y-DNA: L-Z5931
    mtDNA: H-C16291T
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-Z282

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    Country: Australia



    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 2.4266% / 2.42656933
    50.0 VK398_Dod_K12b
    31.8 I5769_Balkans_IronAge
    13.9 VK535_Dod_K12b
    4.3 VK538_Dod_K12b

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