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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    yes I included the VK's
    what do you mean by "hundreds of samples "
    if you run all the English and the VKs together, you get about 700 samples. You can literally have a battle between the two :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... from Waldman 2022 "Genome-wide data from medieval German Jews show that the Ashkenazi founder event pre-dated the 14th century"

    Code:
    I13861_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-28pc,4.18,0,6.16,0,23.61,13.13,0,0,14.55,0,38.35,0.03
    I13862_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-70pc,5.86,0.97,4.67,0.37,22.37,23.34,4.60,0,8.05,0.66,29.10,0
    I13863_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-23pc,6.24,0,6.86,0.19,26.78,5.89,0,1.23,16.04,1.98,34.76,0
    I13864_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-58pc,6.06,0,3.87,0,29.78,7.62,0.53,0.90,17.99,0,33.25,0
    I13865_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-47pc,2.62,0,5.26,1.82,31.32,7.22,0,1.26,15.86,0,34.65,0
    I13866_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-55pc,6.02,0.21,1.00,0.12,28.37,21.48,1.00,0,10.11,3.32,28.32,0.05
    I13867_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-67pc,6.23,0.18,5.43,1.10,27.02,13.31,0,0.14,16.87,0,29.26,0.46
    I13868_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-53pc,5.83,0,4.09,0.88,23.20,25.83,0.60,0,11.58,1.41,26.49,0.09
    I13869_F_Germany_Medieval_Daughter_I14904_cov-52pc,2.29,0.48,4.50,2.05,23.43,21.05,0.02,0,13.74,2.21,30.23,0
    I13870_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-31pc,5.00,0.82,3.92,0,24.11,7.75,0,2.18,17.83,0,38.37,0
    I14736_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-59pc,6.17,0.31,4.84,0,24.04,15.21,0,0.97,16.30,0.78,30.93,0.45
    I14737_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-34pc,3.34,0.93,6.32,0.35,22.33,9.78,0.26,1.19,15.63,0,39.87,0
    I14738_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-71pc,7.77,1.22,2.54,0.12,24.19,23.00,0.87,0,10.90,1.74,27.65,0
    I14739_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-28pc,3.57,0,7.50,2.10,28.76,5.14,0,1.21,13.56,0,38.16,0
    I14740_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-72pc,4.36,3.08,2.19,0.28,21.98,27.33,0.27,1.31,9.50,0.82,28.58,0.29
    I14741_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-11pc,0,0,8.29,2.26,25.27,11.06,0.18,0.96,13.98,0,38.01,0
    I14846_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-5pc,10.90,0,0,0,31.45,5.37,0.73,0,17.01,0,34.54,0
    I14847_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-73pc,6.59,0.76,3.27,1.48,24.18,22.83,1.05,1.20,8.66,0.47,29.43,0.08
    I14850_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-49pc,6.63,0.37,2.93,0.29,24.83,22.06,1.12,1.24,9.52,0,30.72,0.29
    I14851_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-39pc,8.42,1.09,4.84,0,26.01,7.79,0,0.60,15.11,1.12,35.01,0
    I14853_M_Germany_Medieval_Son_I14850_cov-46pc,7.92,0.12,4.75,0.65,24.39,16.72,0.40,0,11.92,0.22,31.84,1.06
    I14897_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-20pc,12.54,0,1.18,0,28.60,15.42,0,2.36,15.20,0,24.71,0
    I14898_F_Germany_Medieval_Daughter_I14850_cov-10pc,3.25,0,0,0,28.56,19.30,0,0.43,10.82,0.26,34.34,3.03
    I14903_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-52pc,8.18,0,5.68,0,29.37,4.88,1.97,0,10.34,0.10,39.48,0
    I14904_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-60pc,3.64,1.27,3.64,1.94,27.80,21.98,2.90,0,8.56,0.70,27.34,0.22
    I excluded low-coverage samples.

    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...05v1.full_.pdf

    ... data from: https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/
    Medieval German Jews ... top ancients: ...


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    Derenburg LBKs ... "Population Genetics and Signatures of Selection in Early Neolithic European Farmers":

    Code:
    DER002_LBK_cov-63pc,0,0,2.85,0,53.21,0,0,0,12.87,0,30.73,0.33
    DER003_LBK_cov-40pc,0,0,4.45,0.01,55.48,0,0,0,11.67,0,28.38,0
    DER004_LBK_cov-17pc,0,0,2.24,0,51.70,0,0,0,13.43,0,32.63,0
    DER005_LBK_cov-37pc,0,0,1.97,0,55.87,0,0,0.66,11.12,0,30.14,0.25
    DER006_LBK_cov-39pc,0,0.32,2.41,0.06,55.13,0,0,0,12.27,0,29.75,0.05
    DER007_LBK_cov-56pc,0,0,1.70,0,52.50,0,0,0,14.50,0,31.31,0
    DER009_LBK_cov-66pc,0,3.54,0,0,51.57,0,0,0,11.03,0,33.86,0
    DER010_LBK_cov-48pc,0,0,2.96,0,55.37,0,0,0,16.45,0,25.22,0
    DER011_LBK_cov-36pc,0,0,5.59,0,51.28,0,0,0,12.66,0,30.47,0
    DER012_LBK_cov-48pc,0,0,4.34,0,52.01,0,0,0,10.65,0,33.00,0
    DER013_LBK_cov-60pc,0,0,0,4.12,48.10,0,0,0,13.56,0,34.22,0
    DER014_LBK_cov-37pc,0,0,1.63,0.50,53.24,0.66,0,0,12.47,0,31.51,0
    DER015_LBK_cov-45pc,0,0,2.03,0,56.11,0,0,0,8.82,0,32.95,0.08
    DER017_LBK_cov-17pc,0,0,6.51,0.46,50.47,1.34,0,0,13.79,0,27.44,0
    DER018_LBK_cov-36pc,0,0,4.00,0,51.41,0,0,0,13.60,0,30.98,0
    DER019_LBK_cov-20pc,0,0,2.81,0,59.98,0,0,0,12.25,0,24.96,0
    DER020_LBK_cov-9pc,0,0,3.05,0.65,48.23,3.92,0,0,12.28,0,31.58,0.29
    DER021_LBK_cov-37pc,0,0,2.21,0,52.21,0,0,0,13.60,0,31.98,0
    DER022_LBK_cov-53pc,0,0,6.86,0.28,50.46,0,0,0,9.61,0,32.80,0
    DER023_LBK_cov-61pc,0,0.14,2.52,0,52.49,0,0,0.28,13.13,0,31.44,0
    DER024_LBK_cov-49pc,0,0,3.06,0,54.31,0,0,0,13.12,0,29.31,0.21
    DER026_LBK_cov-34pc,0,0.38,5.95,0,50.84,1.41,0,0,11.67,0,29.77,0
    DER028_LBK_cov-60pc,0,0,2.36,0,55.21,0,0,0,14.12,0.53,27.55,0.23
    DER029_LBK_cov-32pc,0,0,3.68,0,52.16,0,0,0,10.47,0,33.69,0
    DER030_LBK_cov-24pc,0,0,1.83,0,50.22,2.69,0,0,14.90,0,30.07,0.29
    DER031_LBK_cov-19pc,0,0,0.95,0,54.58,0,0,0,10.37,0,33.76,0.35
    DER032_LBK_cov-55pc,0,0.15,2.52,0,53.69,0,0,0,15.29,0,28.35,0
    DER033_LBK_cov-60pc,0,0,4.71,0,54.07,0,0,0,12.77,0,28.46,0
    DER034_LBK_cov-48pc,0,0,2.02,0,51.81,0.61,0,0,15.23,0.42,29.91,0
    DER035b_LBK_cov-34pc,0,0,4.36,0,52.08,0,0,0,14.19,0,29.37,0
    DER036_LBK_cov-59pc,0,0.16,2.23,0,50.72,0,0,0,14.47,0,32.42,0
    DER037_LBK_cov-13pc,0,0,4.22,0,55.91,0,0,0,6.33,0,33.55,0



    ... as of now, these ENA links have issues, ... alternative data location and format: https://edmond.mpdl.mpg.de/dataset.x...17617/3.HOKI5I

    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article...sac108/6586604
    Last edited by Salento; 09-06-22 at 19:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Medieval German Jews ... top ancients: ...
    Amazing work as usuall kudos to you
    I hope someone will look at the the bam files
    For y haplogroup branches:
    personally wonder to which branch exactly the
    I14847-e1b1b1b2 individual belong to ( e-y14891,
    e-y6938,e-pf1975)
    ancestery :
    mostly western jewish here is the overlapp with south europe[U]

    "Know where you came from and where you are going."

    Direct paternal line : mizrahi from damascus

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    They look like Mediterranean people mixed with Eastern Mediterranean and Near Eastern populations, which is consistent with the proposed trajectory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    They look like Mediterranean people mixed with Eastern Mediterranean and Near Eastern populations, which is consistent with the proposed trajectory.

    great jovialis
    indeed but some of them i presume the erfurt-eu group
    have above 30% yamnaya that maybe has a conection
    to some east european ancestery
    that this group had compare to the erfurt -me group
    can you check them with modern populations ?



    p.s
    by the way from salento k12b values
    the e1b1b1b2 dude i14847 who are under the erfurt -eu groupamong others
    in k12b have 22% north european
    now lets put the cards on the table i have 14.8% north european in k12b ( and i am 1/4 bulgarian i know they are south slav almost all of this came from bulgarian since sefhardi and mizrahi have very low % baltic north european element)
    still in the erfurt-eu group compare to the me_erfurt group must have been some eastern european geneflow i don't know when but its there
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    ... consolidating Haber_2019 (2018 ?) ... Crusaders and Roman Era Lebanon, ... I included the previously published samples to make it simple:

    Code:
    SI-38_Crusader_LB_Sidon,11.16,1.14,0,0,19.01,0,0,0.83,26.72,0,39.69,1.45
    SI-42_Crusader_LB_Sidon,9.77,0,5.14,1.28,15.63,0,0,2.64,23.94,0,41.26,0.34
    SI-44_Crusader_LB_Sidon,10.06,0,3.27,0,25.04,0,0,0.05,20.51,0,41.07,0
    SI-45_Crusader_LB_Sidon,11.87,0,6.67,0.57,17.02,0,0,0.87,22.00,0,39.90,1.10
    QED-2_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir,11.94,0,5.71,0,16.55,0.10,0,1.40,25.09,1.92,37.28,0
    QED-4_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir,10.27,0,2.89,0,17.48,0,0.96,1.31,24.97,0,42.11,0
    QED-7_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir,10.67,0,3.13,0.64,12.99,1.07,0,1.12,25.58,1.06,43.74,0
    QED-12_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir,4.09,0.16,2.75,0,15.51,2.48,0,2.02,29.09,1.80,42.11,0
    Crusader_Pit:SI39:Haber_2019,6.95,1.03,0,0,34.51,40.91,2.01,0,0,0.18,12.88,1.53
    Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019,4.28,0.74,3.35,0,47.07,26.39,0,0.37,5.96,0.18,10.79,0.86
    Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019,3.2,0,8.67,0,37.38,17.9,0.25,2.24,8.44,0.1,18.87,2.93
    Crusader_Pit:SI47:Haber_2019,9.87,0,0.6,0,35.64,40.84,0,1.53,1.29,1.56,7.96,0.71
    Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019,8.18,0.59,1.46,0,27.16,18.68,0.36,0.31,9.76,0,32.79,0.7

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    Philip Calvert (born1626 England + 1682 Maryland Colony): Governor and Chancellor of Maryland

    Code:
    I2099_Philip_Calvert_MD_Colonial_Governor_StMarys_1682-AD,7.44,0,0,0,38.47,44.59,0,0.38,0,0.49,6.66,1.98


    Reich 2016 https://www.hsmcdigshistory.org/wp-c...in-burials.pdf

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    Harney 2022 ... Ancient DNA analysis of 27 African Americans from Catoctin Furnace, Maryland

    Code:
    I15338_cov-3.39%,0.00,0.00,0.00,7.13,0.00,2.47,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.65,87.74
    I15339_cov-7.48%,1.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.59,2.93,2.72,15.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,74.19
    I15333_cov-51.35%,0.00,0.00,0.09,0.27,0.00,0.07,0.00,11.41,0.00,0.00,0.00,88.15
    I15336_cov-42.11%,0.00,1.52,1.30,0.04,1.82,2.78,0.00,10.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,81.93
    I15335_cov-35.25%,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,0.00,1.13,0.17,11.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,87.02
    I15334_cov-61.20%,0.00,0.09,0.85,0.38,0.01,0.00,0.75,9.66,0.00,0.70,0.00,87.56
    I15331_cov-65.29%,1.46,1.64,0.33,1.50,1.95,4.34,0.38,11.63,0.00,0.00,1.60,75.16
    I15330_cov-43.69%,0.79,0.46,0.82,1.40,4.23,5.48,0.00,8.18,0.00,2.09,0.00,76.56
    I15340_cov-51.90%,0.00,0.00,0.37,0.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,89.61
    I15337_cov-36.56%,1.78,0.00,0.35,0.00,1.37,2.40,0.72,8.58,0.00,0.83,0.00,83.95
    I15332_cov-33.10%,0.00,0.00,1.63,0.40,5.55,4.27,0.00,12.40,0.73,0.00,0.00,75.02
    I8094_cov-59.75%,2.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.89,6.16,0.00,9.63,0.00,0.00,0.03,79.22
    I8097_cov-68.18%,0.04,0.00,4.36,0.00,0.00,0.88,0.00,7.75,0.17,1.75,0.00,85.04
    I8096_cov-63.42%,0.00,0.00,3.76,0.23,3.62,3.00,0.00,6.85,0.45,1.15,0.56,80.38
    I8095_cov-66.05%,0.00,0.29,2.45,0.00,0.48,0.00,0.13,5.87,0.00,1.01,0.00,89.78
    I8090_d_cov-2.35%,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.00,5.81,0.00,0.00,10.36,0.00,1.07,0.00,78.77
    I8093_cov-44.03%,2.08,0.80,1.72,0.00,3.20,3.20,0.18,12.33,0.00,0.76,0.00,75.73
    I8092_cov-54.16%,0.97,1.12,0.00,0.00,3.74,5.95,0.00,13.38,0.13,0.00,0.00,74.71
    I8091_cov-32.91%,3.86,0.00,3.42,0.00,6.97,8.74,0.00,5.36,0.32,0.00,0.00,71.33
    I8089_cov-43.84%,0.08,0.01,0.31,0.00,0.30,0.80,0.00,10.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,88.18
    I8087_cov-48.29%,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.86,0.00,10.45,0.00,0.00,0.00,86.60
    I8086_cov-43.53%,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.41,0.00,6.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,90.96
    I8085_cov-43.99%,1.24,0.00,3.56,0.00,1.18,0.09,0.00,10.22,0.00,0.01,1.04,82.66
    I8084_cov-22.67%,0.00,0.58,0.00,0.96,0.94,2.64,0.00,10.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,84.27
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...cal_Note_0.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Harney 2022 ... Ancient DNA analysis of 27 African Americans from Catoctin Furnace, Maryland

    Code:
    I15338_cov-3.39%,0.00,0.00,0.00,7.13,0.00,2.47,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.65,87.74
    I15339_cov-7.48%,1.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.59,2.93,2.72,15.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,74.19
    I15333_cov-51.35%,0.00,0.00,0.09,0.27,0.00,0.07,0.00,11.41,0.00,0.00,0.00,88.15
    I15336_cov-42.11%,0.00,1.52,1.30,0.04,1.82,2.78,0.00,10.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,81.93
    I15335_cov-35.25%,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,0.00,1.13,0.17,11.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,87.02
    I15334_cov-61.20%,0.00,0.09,0.85,0.38,0.01,0.00,0.75,9.66,0.00,0.70,0.00,87.56
    I15331_cov-65.29%,1.46,1.64,0.33,1.50,1.95,4.34,0.38,11.63,0.00,0.00,1.60,75.16
    I15330_cov-43.69%,0.79,0.46,0.82,1.40,4.23,5.48,0.00,8.18,0.00,2.09,0.00,76.56
    I15340_cov-51.90%,0.00,0.00,0.37,0.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,9.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,89.61
    I15337_cov-36.56%,1.78,0.00,0.35,0.00,1.37,2.40,0.72,8.58,0.00,0.83,0.00,83.95
    I15332_cov-33.10%,0.00,0.00,1.63,0.40,5.55,4.27,0.00,12.40,0.73,0.00,0.00,75.02
    I8094_cov-59.75%,2.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.89,6.16,0.00,9.63,0.00,0.00,0.03,79.22
    I8097_cov-68.18%,0.04,0.00,4.36,0.00,0.00,0.88,0.00,7.75,0.17,1.75,0.00,85.04
    I8096_cov-63.42%,0.00,0.00,3.76,0.23,3.62,3.00,0.00,6.85,0.45,1.15,0.56,80.38
    I8095_cov-66.05%,0.00,0.29,2.45,0.00,0.48,0.00,0.13,5.87,0.00,1.01,0.00,89.78
    I8090_d_cov-2.35%,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.00,5.81,0.00,0.00,10.36,0.00,1.07,0.00,78.77
    I8093_cov-44.03%,2.08,0.80,1.72,0.00,3.20,3.20,0.18,12.33,0.00,0.76,0.00,75.73
    I8092_cov-54.16%,0.97,1.12,0.00,0.00,3.74,5.95,0.00,13.38,0.13,0.00,0.00,74.71
    I8091_cov-32.91%,3.86,0.00,3.42,0.00,6.97,8.74,0.00,5.36,0.32,0.00,0.00,71.33
    I8089_cov-43.84%,0.08,0.01,0.31,0.00,0.30,0.80,0.00,10.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,88.18
    I8087_cov-48.29%,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.86,0.00,10.45,0.00,0.00,0.00,86.60
    I8086_cov-43.53%,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.41,0.00,6.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,90.96
    I8085_cov-43.99%,1.24,0.00,3.56,0.00,1.18,0.09,0.00,10.22,0.00,0.01,1.04,82.66
    I8084_cov-22.67%,0.00,0.58,0.00,0.96,0.94,2.64,0.00,10.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,84.27
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...cal_Note_0.pdf

    thanks for sharing interesting
    a dark chapter in the history of the usa
    unsurprisingly most males belong to e1b1a
    yet 3/16 18% of the male samples belonged to haplogroup r1b and r1a
    autosomally speaking i see from the k12b values you posted
    some of them had 9-10% european admixture

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    thanks for sharing interesting
    a dark chapter in the history of the usa
    unsurprisingly most males belong to e1b1a
    yet 3/16 18% of the male samples belonged to haplogroup r1b and r1a
    autosomally speaking i see from the k12b values you posted
    some of them had 9-10% european admixture
    off topic … around that time, it wasn't just a USA “dark chapter” … there are many Countries with that same chapter!

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    ... Early Medieval Alemannic graveyard

    Code:
    NIEcap1_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic,11.90,0,1.32,0,35.02,47.83,0,0,3.19,0,0.54,0.19
    NIEcap3a_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic,11.71,0.47,0,0,37.27,47.12,0,0,0,0,3.09,0.33
    NIEcap3b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine,4.37,0.30,0.23,0,30.36,25.70,1.31,0,7.36,0,30.07,0.31
    NIEcap3c_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine,2.51,0,1.32,0,37.39,24.33,0,0,4.48,0,28.07,1.90
    NIEcap6_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Langobardian,13.02,1.32,0.40,0.34,32.12,44.78,1.93,0,0.24,0,5.54,0.31
    NIEcap9_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic,10.39,0.97,0,0,38.21,49.40,0,0.82,0.01,0,0,0.20
    NIEcap12b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantin_8.99%,2.73,0,0,0,32.93,52.47,0,0,2.51,0,9.37,0
    NIEcap12c_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine_22.74%,6.66,0.64,0,0,36.50,48.78,0.03,0,0,0,5.42,1.96
    Sullivan 2018 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aao1262

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    Thank you Salento. Playing with the medieval and LBK coordinates produced by you on this site.

    Distance to: Duarte
    8.57093927 Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    11.25954262 Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    17.26660071 NIEcap3c_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine
    21.10948839 Crusader_Pit:SI39:Haber_2019
    21.31486570 Crusader_Pit:SI47:Haber_2019
    21.91869978 I14904_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-60pc
    22.65902028 NIEcap3b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine
    23.09019056 I13866_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-55pc
    24.70602356 I14897_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-20pc
    25.28561844 I14738_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-71pc
    25.36842723 I13868_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-53pc
    25.51224216 I14847_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-73pc
    26.15171696 I14850_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-49pc
    26.84308477 I13862_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-70pc
    26.88810518 Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
    27.37655566 I14740_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-72pc
    27.40165871 NIEcap6_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Langobardian
    27.50720633 I14898_F_Germany_Medieval_Daughter_I14850_cov-10pc
    28.07409304 I13867_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-67pc
    28.26667472 I13869_F_Germany_Medieval_Daughter_I14904_cov-52pc
    28.38642633 I14853_M_Germany_Medieval_Son_I14850_cov-46pc
    28.43367722 NIEcap3a_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    28.48124646 NIEcap12c_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine_22.74%
    29.84604999 DER020_LBK_cov-9pc
    29.95694077 I14736_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-59pc
    30.06108115 NIEcap1_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    30.24764784 DER017_LBK_cov-17pc
    30.87539959 DER026_LBK_cov-34pc
    31.15209945 NIEcap9_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    31.24445391 DER030_LBK_cov-24pc
    31.97356408 I13865_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-47pc
    32.14932348 NIEcap12b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantin_8.99%
    32.27004338 I13864_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-58pc
    32.57638715 DER033_LBK_cov-60pc
    32.64030790 DER011_LBK_cov-36pc
    32.79996799 DER035b_LBK_cov-34pc
    32.80352725 DER003_LBK_cov-40pc
    33.04578037 DER022_LBK_cov-53pc
    33.05243259 DER010_LBK_cov-48pc
    33.11956974 DER034_LBK_cov-48pc
    33.14093089 DER028_LBK_cov-60pc
    33.24990827 DER024_LBK_cov-49pc
    33.27987680 DER018_LBK_cov-36pc
    33.34304275 DER032_LBK_cov-55pc
    33.52549478 DER002_LBK_cov-63pc
    33.56299748 DER014_LBK_cov-37pc
    33.62695942 DER006_LBK_cov-39pc
    33.76272649 DER019_LBK_cov-20pc
    33.81373242 DER023_LBK_cov-61pc
    33.82876439 DER012_LBK_cov-48pc
    33.83556413 DER005_LBK_cov-37pc
    33.91454555 I14851_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-39pc
    34.14301832 I14846_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-5pc
    34.20973984 DER021_LBK_cov-37pc
    34.26508427 DER007_LBK_cov-56pc
    34.28671317 DER029_LBK_cov-32pc
    34.31409186 DER036_LBK_cov-59pc
    34.37816022 DER004_LBK_cov-17pc
    34.51094609 I13863_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-23pc
    34.88565894 DER037_LBK_cov-13pc
    34.92569971 DER013_LBK_cov-60pc
    34.94173579 DER009_LBK_cov-66pc
    35.00937303 I14741_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-11pc
    35.06716698 DER015_LBK_cov-45pc
    35.17614248 I13861_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-28pc
    35.32994198 DER031_LBK_cov-19pc
    35.57354776 I14739_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-28pc
    35.79864104 I14903_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-52pc
    37.93013973 I13870_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-31pc
    38.32641256 I14737_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-34pc
    44.23699018 SI-44_Crusader_LB_Sidon
    47.78580438 SI-45_Crusader_LB_Sidon
    48.01036763 QED-2_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir
    48.97895160 SI-38_Crusader_LB_Sidon
    49.88873721 SI-42_Crusader_LB_Sidon
    50.04785310 QED-4_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir
    51.71171627 QED-12_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir
    53.13785562 QED-7_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir
    Distance to: Duarte
    5.35889369 59.60% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 40.40% Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    6.50671381 83.20% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 16.80% I14853_M_Germany_Medieval_Son_I14850_cov-46pc
    6.65968265 82.00% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 18.00% I14847_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-73pc
    6.66178097 82.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 17.20% I13862_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-70pc
    6.67379432 86.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 13.20% I14903_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-52pc
    6.69331091 10.20% SI-45_Crusader_LB_Sidon + 89.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    6.70836868 23.00% NIEcap9_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic + 77.00% Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    6.72425760 79.60% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 20.40% I14904_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-60pc
    6.74088522 86.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 13.20% I14739_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-28pc
    6.76128632 86.60% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 13.40% I13863_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-23pc
    6.76707830 82.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 17.20% I14850_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-49pc
    6.77324047 86.40% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 13.60% I14851_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-39pc
    6.79971963 86.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 13.20% I14741_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-11pc
    6.82155725 83.40% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 16.60% Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
    6.83891756 88.00% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 12.00% I14737_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-34pc
    6.85034581 9.40% SI-42_Crusader_LB_Sidon + 90.60% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    6.86203378 24.40% NIEcap3a_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic + 75.60% Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    6.87538713 85.00% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 15.00% I14736_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-59pc
    6.87973461 87.00% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 13.00% I13861_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-28pc
    6.89966252 84.20% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 15.80% I13867_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-67pc
    6.94048478 9.60% QED-2_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir + 90.40% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    6.94295994 82.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 17.20% I14738_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-71pc
    7.01362599 88.40% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 11.60% I13870_M_Germany_Medieval_cov-31pc
    7.01399836 82.80% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019 + 17.20% I14897_F_Germany_Medieval_cov-20pc
    7.01694903 8.60% QED-7_RomanEra_LB_Qornet-ed-Deir + 91.40% Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 4.8787% / 4.87865198
    45.4 Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    36.0 Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    7.8 NIEcap3a_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    6.2 NIEcap9_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    4.6 DER037_LBK_cov-13pc



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    … thanks Duarte, … Protector of the Cross :)

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    … about Post # 87 (Early Medieval Alemannic), MTA named the samples NS…

    NIEcap3c = NS3c North Roman Warrior
    NIEcap3b = NS3b Byzantine Roman Warrior
    NIEcap3A = NS3a Merovingian Noble
    NIEcap9 = NS9 Merovingian Lord
    NIEcap1 = NS1 Merovingian Noble
    NIEcap12b = NS12b Merovingian Noble
    and so on …

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    I got from Gedmatch the coordinates K12b of Louchbour’s man and play with some ancient K12b coordinates produced by Jovialis, in a fictional K8 model (CHG, WHG, LBK_EN, Salzmuende_MN, Remedello, Yamnaya_Samara, Iberomaurusian, SSA). The distances are not bad to the Iberians and French K12b modern coordinates produced by Pax and Salento. Of course this is just a game and not science, but is nice to play, lol.

    Code:
    Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
    Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
    Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
    Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
    Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
    Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
    Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52
    CHG:KK1_(Kotias):Jones_2015,38.72,0.69,0,0,0,6.95,0.02,0,0,0,51.67,1.95
    CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015,45.63,0.44,0,0,0,1.74,0.54,0,0,0,49.54,2.11
    WHG_Loschbour,0,0,0,0,30.57,68.87,0,0,0,0.35,0,0.21
    LBK_EN:I0022_LBK1976:Haak_2015,0,0,0.54,0,49.81,5.69,0,1.53,13.7,0,28.73,0
    LBK_EN:I0025_LBK1992:Haak_2015,0,0,5.76,0.41,53.66,0,0,0,12.97,0.73,25.12,1.36
    LBK_EN:I0026_LBK2155:Haak_2015,0,0,4.6,0,49,0.97,0,0.31,10.77,0.84,33.32,0.2
    LBK_EN:I0046_HAL5:Haak_2015,0,0,3.13,0,56.59,0.57,0,0,13.95,0,25.76,0
    LBK_EN:I0048_HAL25:Haak_2015,0,0,0.16,0,53.59,2.6,0,1.45,9.17,0,33.03,0
    LBK_EN:I0054_UWS4:Haak_2015,0,0,2.87,0,55.51,0.93,0,0.05,7.69,0,32.95,0
    LBK_EN:I0056_HAL14:Haak_2015,0,0,0.59,0,53.9,2.15,0,0,14.39,1.01,27.96,0
    LBK_EN:I0057_HAL34:Haak_2015,0,0,5.5,0,52.81,0,0,0.04,10.5,0,31.16,0
    LBK_EN:I0100_HAL4:Haak_2015,0,0,2.41,0,56.52,0.36,0,0,12.44,0,28.28,0
    LBK_EN:I0659_HAL2:Haak_2015,0,0,2.28,0.39,58.01,0,0,0,9.53,0,29.38,0.4
    LBK_EN:I0795_KAR6:Haak_2015,0,0,2.81,0,45.63,0,0,0,14.89,0,36.3,0.37
    LBK_EN:I0821_HAL24:Haak_2015,0,0,0,0,50.73,0,0,0,10.95,0,38.32,0
    LBK_EN:I0018:Lipson_2017,0,0,4.51,0,54.23,1.93,0,0.2,10.96,0.25,27.69,0.21
    LBK_EN:I0046:Lipson_2017,0,0,4.12,0,53.68,0,0,0,14.14,0,28.04,0.02
    LBK_EN:I0048:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,51.25,0,0,0,13.03,0.68,35.04,0
    LBK_EN:I0056:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.32,0,56.3,1.42,0,0,13.47,0,26.48,0
    LBK_EN:I0057:Lipson_2017,0,0,4,0,51.94,0,0,0.08,13.26,0,30.44,0.28
    LBK_EN:I0100:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.75,0,55.38,0.52,0,0,12.86,0,28.05,0.43
    LBK_EN:I0659:Lipson_2017,0,0,1.42,0.34,56.97,0,0,0,12.14,0.03,29.08,0.01
    LBK_EN:I0821:Lipson_2017,0,0,3.4,0,49.68,0,0,0,14.58,0,32.34,0
    LBK_EN:I1550:Lipson_2017,0,0,5.12,0,53.75,0.27,0,0,11.34,0.28,29.2,0.04
    LBK_EN:I2005:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,20.46,12.21,0,1.79,28.84,0,36.7,0
    LBK_EN:I2008:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.63,0,56.44,0,0,0,16.79,0,24.14,0
    LBK_EN:I2014:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,45.67,1.52,0,0.21,20.23,0,30.6,1.77
    LBK_EN:I2016:Lipson_2017,0,1.18,8.9,0,51.46,0,0,0,8.18,0,30.28,0
    LBK_EN:I2017:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,51.23,0,0,0,15.57,0,33.21,0
    LBK_EN:I2020:Lipson_2017,0,0.19,6.24,0,60.21,0,0,0,18.63,0,14.72,0
    LBK_EN:I2021:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,34.51,0,0,0.21,15.55,0,47.83,1.89
    LBK_EN:I2022:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,44.69,0,0,0,34.92,0,20.39,0
    LBK_EN:I2026:Lipson_2017,0,0,3.21,0,48.46,6.87,0,0,12.59,0,28.87,0
    LBK_EN:I2029:Lipson_2017,0,0,1.65,0,53.28,0.13,0,0,15.2,0,29.75,0
    LBK_EN:I2030:Lipson_2017,0,0,1.28,0,52.34,0,0,0,13.63,0,32.4,0.35
    LBK_EN:I2032:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.43,0,50.18,0.83,0,0,13.75,0,32.81,0
    LBK_EN:I2036:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.92,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.71,0.09,28.92,0.12
    LBK_EN:I2037:Lipson_2017,0,0.67,7.44,0,51.05,0,0,0,13.62,0,27.22,0
    LBK_EN:I2038:Lipson_2017,0,0,6.06,0,46.96,0,0,0,14.56,0,32.31,0.11
    LBK_EN:I0022:Mathieson_2015,0,0,2.11,0,49.7,4.26,1.11,0.37,13.57,0.69,27.59,0.6
    LBK_EN:I0025:Mathieson_2015,0,0,4.98,0.63,50.82,2.05,0,0,13.19,0.05,27.04,1.25
    LBK_EN:I0026:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.9,0,51.31,0,0,0.33,13.1,0.7,30.34,0.31
    LBK_EN:I0046:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.48,0,53.6,0.01,0,0,14.35,0,28.49,0.07
    LBK_EN:I0047:Mathieson_2015,10.65,0,0,0,32.78,48.77,0,0.36,0,0,6.59,0.85
    LBK_EN:I0048:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.78,0,53.81,0,0,0.25,11.31,0,30.85,0
    LBK_EN:I0054:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.42,0.02,52.41,0.68,0,0.05,11.18,0.08,32.1,0.05
    LBK_EN:I0056:Mathieson_2015,0,0,2.39,0,56.29,1.17,0,0,12.21,0,27.94,0
    LBK_EN:I0057:Mathieson_2015,0,0,5.91,0,52.02,0,0,0,12.38,0,29.69,0
    LBK_EN:I0100:Mathieson_2015,0,0,2.76,0,55.1,0.79,0,0,12.71,0,28.19,0.45
    LBK_EN:I0659:Mathieson_2015,0,0,1.45,0.11,57.06,0,0,0,12.12,0.15,29.07,0.04
    LBK_EN:I0795:Mathieson_2015,0,0,0,0,52.23,3.86,0,0,17.11,0,26.8,0
    LBK_EN:I0797:Mathieson_2015,0,0.45,3.45,0,59.31,0,0,0.53,15.77,0,20.49,0
    LBK_EN:I0821:Mathieson_2015,0,0,0,0,47.31,0,0,0,13.34,0,39.35,0
    LBK_EN:I1550:Mathieson_2015,0,0,5.15,0,54.63,1.49,0,0,11.04,0.24,27.45,0
    Salzmuende_MN:I0800:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,54.66,15.81,0,0,12.45,0,16.82,0.26
    Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,5.4,48.03,20.35,0,0,6.14,0,17.83,2.25
    Remedello:RISE486:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0.97,2.12,59.48,10.97,0,0,9.02,0,15.53,1.91
    Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015,0,0,1.36,0,75.55,12.12,0,0,0.84,0,9.88,0.24
    Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0,0,72.08,12.24,0,0,5.69,0,9.99,0
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0231:Mathieson_2015,29.21,3.13,0,0,3.94,57.21,2.44,0,0,0,3.33,0.75
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0357:Mathieson_2015,30.56,1.4,0,0,7.38,54.65,1.41,0,0,0,4.49,0.12
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0370:Mathieson_2015,30.97,3.96,0,0,4.88,57.16,0.12,0,0,0,1.92,0.99
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0429:Mathieson_2015,28.47,1.92,0,0,3.71,62.57,0.96,0.21,0,0,1.45,0.7
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0438:Mathieson_2015,26.82,1.54,0,0.39,0.6,60.83,1.8,0,0,0,7.77,0.25
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0439:Mathieson_2015,24.1,0.47,0,0.94,8.87,55.96,2.12,0,0,0,7.16,0.37
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0441:Mathieson_2015,33.85,2.03,0,0.21,1.48,59.11,2.63,0,0,0,0,0.69
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0443:Mathieson_2015,29.61,2.46,0,0,3.67,58.66,0.07,0,0,0,4.84,0.69
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0444:Mathieson_2015,29.41,1.68,0,0,6.52,59.52,0.6,0.02,0,0,1.07,1.19
    SSA:YRI30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,100.00
    Target Distance CHG Iberomaurusian LBK_EN Remedello Salzmuende_MN SSA WHG_Loschbour Yamnaya_Samara
    Portugal:Portugal1 0.47966742 0.0 6.2 33.1 28.8 0.0 0.0 13.1 18.8
    Portugal:Portugal2 0.76850146 0.1 7.6 54.7 7.1 0.0 0.0 15.0 15.5
    Portugal:Portugal3 0.49837646 0.0 5.4 55.6 4.0 5.1 0.0 18.0 11.9
    Portugal:Portugal6 1.25085601 0.0 6.2 33.6 23.7 0.0 0.0 19.1 17.4
    Portugal:Portugal7 0.78836600 0.0 6.3 46.6 19.8 0.0 0.0 12.9 14.4
    Portugal:Portugal9 1.55418834 0.0 7.1 31.8 27.7 0.0 0.0 15.8 17.6
    Portugal:Portugal10 0.55620651 0.0 3.2 62.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 20.2 13.8
    Portugal:Portugal11 0.27032131 0.0 5.0 43.9 11.4 3.0 0.0 14.9 21.8
    Portugal:Portugal12 0.41787707 0.0 3.9 63.8 4.6 0.0 0.1 17.4 10.2
    Portugal:Portugal13 0.67717194 0.0 4.3 43.6 21.2 0.0 0.0 10.9 20.0
    Spain:Spain1 0.98604590 0.0 1.9 11.8 60.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 26.0
    Spain:Spain2 0.46877494 0.0 0.5 24.9 42.8 0.0 0.0 15.6 16.2
    Spain:Spain3 0.86286825 0.0 1.4 25.4 45.5 0.0 0.0 7.8 19.9
    Spain:Spain4 0.42461581 1.9 0.0 30.2 42.2 0.0 0.0 8.8 16.9
    Spain:Spain5 0.23542710 5.0 0.7 37.3 24.3 3.4 0.0 23.3 6.0
    Spain:Spain6 0.84971947 0.6 1.7 32.3 37.7 0.0 0.0 11.7 16.0
    Spain:Spain8 0.81446494 0.0 5.7 12.3 61.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 20.9
    Spain:Spain9 0.08638065 2.4 1.1 29.0 51.2 2.0 0.3 0.0 14.0
    Spain:Spain10 1.09295339 0.0 8.1 10.1 56.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 25.2
    Spain:Spain11 0.41523926 0.0 0.2 36.3 36.9 6.3 0.1 2.4 17.8
    Spain:Spain12 0.33708632 0.3 4.4 24.6 48.1 4.0 0.0 0.0 18.6
    Spain:Spain13 1.22231338 0.0 4.4 15.5 51.9 0.0 0.0 3.2 25.0
    Duarte 0.26180740 4.5 8.2 25.8 28.1 18.1 3.2 6.4 5.7
    Canarias_1000Genomes 1.02572591 0.0 14.5 28.1 41.0 0.0 0.0 2.9 13.5
    French_Provence-Provance2508 0.38135819 0.3 0.0 56.3 6.2 0.0 0.0 15.8 21.4
    French_Provence-Provance2708 0.45198047 0.9 0.5 69.4 3.3 0.9 0.0 7.2 17.8
    French_Provence-Provance4109 0.70309507 0.0 0.6 42.4 17.0 4.7 0.0 16.9 18.4
    French_Provence-Provance4409 0.15236970 1.2 0.0 49.0 3.7 0.0 0.4 28.1 17.6
    French_Provence-Provance4509 0.52763545 0.2 0.0 42.2 18.5 0.0 0.0 20.7 18.4
    Corsica:Corsica03708 0.31590267 0.4 0.9 74.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.3 12.4
    Corsica_o:corsica11908 0.42603709 0.3 0.4 65.9 0.6 0.0 0.0 18.1 14.7
    Corsica_o:Corsica14708 0.35809091 1.1 0.1 72.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 15.6 10.3
    Corsica:Corsica19508 0.39008671 0.0 0.1 70.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.6 12.4
    Corsica:Corsica24508 0.28872952 0.0 0.0 65.4 0.9 6.9 0.0 8.9 17.9
    Corsica:corsica29008 0.25008715 2.2 0.0 76.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.1 12.4
    Corsica:Corsica29708 0.40519116 2.8 0.0 75.2 0.2 0.0 0.0 9.2 12.6
    Corsica_o:CorsicaS00708 0.71076352 0.0 0.0 51.4 15.9 0.0 0.0 18.8 13.9
    Corsica:CorsicaS03308 0.27878873 1.5 0.0 70.9 0.0 3.0 0.0 14.4 10.2
    Corsica:CorsicaS04208 0.41303847 6.5 0.0 66.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 19.4 7.3
    Corsica:CorsicaS10208 0.54200398 2.9 0.0 69.2 0.0 4.8 0.0 16.6 6.5
    Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308 0.72270058 8.8 0.0 42.0 17.4 0.0 0.0 28.6 3.2
    Corsica:CorsicaS13808 1.07224265 3.9 2.0 60.5 0.0 6.1 0.9 26.6 0.0
    Corsica:CorsicaS15608 0.23574205 0.7 0.2 75.2 0.0 0.0 4.3 15.7 3.9
    Corsica:CorsicaS29908 0.65863729 9.9 0.2 63.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 22.7 3.4
    Average 0.58248720 1.3 2.6 47.1 19.6 1.6 0.2 13.2 14.5

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    @Duarte … I read that there's more than one Louchbour’s man sample, … not that important, though they recommend using the one with more SNPs.
    … this applies to all samples :)

    I posted two Louchb… together somewhere.

    off topic … my device still autocorrect “Duarte / with a Spaniard member” … LOL

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    Lol, lol. Thanks Salento.
    The Loschbour I used is identified in Gedmatch with the ID F999918.

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    Distance to: Torziok12b
    9.68022727 NIEcap3c_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine
    11.36605033 NIEcap3b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine
    13.87628192 Crusader_Pit:SI41:Haber_2019
    15.66039910 Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
    16.72589609 Crusader_Pit:SI39:Haber_2019
    17.42779963 Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017
    17.79240006 Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
    19.28008817 Crusader_Pit:SI47:Haber_2019
    24.67971637 NIEcap6_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Langobardian
    24.75207870 Salzmuende_MN:I0800:Lipson_2017
    26.47868954 LBK_EN:I0047:Mathieson_2015
    26.79765475 NIEcap12c_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine_22.74%
    27.37722594 NIEcap3a_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    27.62506471 LBK_EN:I2026:Lipson_2017
    27.84691186 NIEcap12b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantin_8.99%
    29.03410236 NIEcap1_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    29.39643856 LBK_EN:I0022_LBK1976:Haak_2015
    30.11188138 LBK_EN:I0022:Mathieson_2015
    30.75923601 Remedello:RISE486:Allentoft_2015
    30.91986417 NIEcap9_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    32.38189154 LBK_EN:I0025:Mathieson_2015
    32.53184286 LBK_EN:I0795:Mathieson_2015
    33.75055407 LBK_EN:I0026_LBK2155:Haak_2015
    33.81899171 LBK_EN:I2014:Lipson_2017
    33.85974897 LBK_EN:I0018:Lipson_2017


    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 0.2161% / 0.21605239
    37.7 LBK_EN
    16.9 NIEcap12b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantin_8.99%
    13.9 Yamnaya_Samara
    9.6 NIEcap3b_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine
    8.3 NIEcap1_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic
    6.6 WHG_Loschbour
    4.9 SI-44_Crusader_LB_Sidon
    2.0 CHG
    0.1 Remedello
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    A K9 model including Bell_Beaker_LN (K9 = WHG_Loschbour, CHG, LBK_EN, Bell_Beaker_LN, Salzmuende_MN, Remedello, Yamnaya _Samara, Iberomaurisian, SSA).

    Dodecad K12b coordinates:
    Code:
    SSA:YRI30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,100.00
    Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
    Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
    Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
    Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
    Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
    Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
    Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52
    CHG:KK1_(Kotias):Jones_2015,38.72,0.69,0,0,0,6.95,0.02,0,0,0,51.67,1.95
    CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015,45.63,0.44,0,0,0,1.74,0.54,0,0,0,49.54,2.11
    WHG_Loschbour,0,0,0,0,30.57,68.87,0,0,0,0.35,0,0.21
    Remedello:RISE486:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0.97,2.12,59.48,10.97,0,0,9.02,0,15.53,1.91
    Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015,0,0,1.36,0,75.55,12.12,0,0,0.84,0,9.88,0.24
    Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0,0,72.08,12.24,0,0,5.69,0,9.99,0
    LBK_EN:I0022_LBK1976:Haak_2015,0,0,0.54,0,49.81,5.69,0,1.53,13.7,0,28.73,0
    LBK_EN:I0025_LBK1992:Haak_2015,0,0,5.76,0.41,53.66,0,0,0,12.97,0.73,25.12,1.36
    LBK_EN:I0026_LBK2155:Haak_2015,0,0,4.6,0,49,0.97,0,0.31,10.77,0.84,33.32,0.2
    LBK_EN:I0046_HAL5:Haak_2015,0,0,3.13,0,56.59,0.57,0,0,13.95,0,25.76,0
    LBK_EN:I0048_HAL25:Haak_2015,0,0,0.16,0,53.59,2.6,0,1.45,9.17,0,33.03,0
    LBK_EN:I0054_UWS4:Haak_2015,0,0,2.87,0,55.51,0.93,0,0.05,7.69,0,32.95,0
    LBK_EN:I0056_HAL14:Haak_2015,0,0,0.59,0,53.9,2.15,0,0,14.39,1.01,27.96,0
    LBK_EN:I0057_HAL34:Haak_2015,0,0,5.5,0,52.81,0,0,0.04,10.5,0,31.16,0
    LBK_EN:I0100_HAL4:Haak_2015,0,0,2.41,0,56.52,0.36,0,0,12.44,0,28.28,0
    LBK_EN:I0659_HAL2:Haak_2015,0,0,2.28,0.39,58.01,0,0,0,9.53,0,29.38,0.4
    LBK_EN:I0795_KAR6:Haak_2015,0,0,2.81,0,45.63,0,0,0,14.89,0,36.3,0.37
    LBK_EN:I0821_HAL24:Haak_2015,0,0,0,0,50.73,0,0,0,10.95,0,38.32,0
    LBK_EN:I0018:Lipson_2017,0,0,4.51,0,54.23,1.93,0,0.2,10.96,0.25,27.69,0.21
    LBK_EN:I0046:Lipson_2017,0,0,4.12,0,53.68,0,0,0,14.14,0,28.04,0.02
    LBK_EN:I0048:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,51.25,0,0,0,13.03,0.68,35.04,0
    LBK_EN:I0056:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.32,0,56.3,1.42,0,0,13.47,0,26.48,0
    LBK_EN:I0057:Lipson_2017,0,0,4,0,51.94,0,0,0.08,13.26,0,30.44,0.28
    LBK_EN:I0100:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.75,0,55.38,0.52,0,0,12.86,0,28.05,0.43
    LBK_EN:I0659:Lipson_2017,0,0,1.42,0.34,56.97,0,0,0,12.14,0.03,29.08,0.01
    LBK_EN:I0821:Lipson_2017,0,0,3.4,0,49.68,0,0,0,14.58,0,32.34,0
    LBK_EN:I1550:Lipson_2017,0,0,5.12,0,53.75,0.27,0,0,11.34,0.28,29.2,0.04
    LBK_EN:I2005:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,20.46,12.21,0,1.79,28.84,0,36.7,0
    LBK_EN:I2008:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.63,0,56.44,0,0,0,16.79,0,24.14,0
    LBK_EN:I2014:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,45.67,1.52,0,0.21,20.23,0,30.6,1.77
    LBK_EN:I2016:Lipson_2017,0,1.18,8.9,0,51.46,0,0,0,8.18,0,30.28,0
    LBK_EN:I2017:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,51.23,0,0,0,15.57,0,33.21,0
    LBK_EN:I2020:Lipson_2017,0,0.19,6.24,0,60.21,0,0,0,18.63,0,14.72,0
    LBK_EN:I2021:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,34.51,0,0,0.21,15.55,0,47.83,1.89
    LBK_EN:I2022:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,44.69,0,0,0,34.92,0,20.39,0
    LBK_EN:I2026:Lipson_2017,0,0,3.21,0,48.46,6.87,0,0,12.59,0,28.87,0
    LBK_EN:I2029:Lipson_2017,0,0,1.65,0,53.28,0.13,0,0,15.2,0,29.75,0
    LBK_EN:I2030:Lipson_2017,0,0,1.28,0,52.34,0,0,0,13.63,0,32.4,0.35
    LBK_EN:I2032:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.43,0,50.18,0.83,0,0,13.75,0,32.81,0
    LBK_EN:I2036:Lipson_2017,0,0,2.92,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.71,0.09,28.92,0.12
    LBK_EN:I2037:Lipson_2017,0,0.67,7.44,0,51.05,0,0,0,13.62,0,27.22,0
    LBK_EN:I2038:Lipson_2017,0,0,6.06,0,46.96,0,0,0,14.56,0,32.31,0.11
    LBK_EN:I0022:Mathieson_2015,0,0,2.11,0,49.7,4.26,1.11,0.37,13.57,0.69,27.59,0.6
    LBK_EN:I0025:Mathieson_2015,0,0,4.98,0.63,50.82,2.05,0,0,13.19,0.05,27.04,1.25
    LBK_EN:I0026:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.9,0,51.31,0,0,0.33,13.1,0.7,30.34,0.31
    LBK_EN:I0046:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.48,0,53.6,0.01,0,0,14.35,0,28.49,0.07
    LBK_EN:I0047:Mathieson_2015,10.65,0,0,0,32.78,48.77,0,0.36,0,0,6.59,0.85
    LBK_EN:I0048:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.78,0,53.81,0,0,0.25,11.31,0,30.85,0
    LBK_EN:I0054:Mathieson_2015,0,0,3.42,0.02,52.41,0.68,0,0.05,11.18,0.08,32.1,0.05
    LBK_EN:I0056:Mathieson_2015,0,0,2.39,0,56.29,1.17,0,0,12.21,0,27.94,0
    LBK_EN:I0057:Mathieson_2015,0,0,5.91,0,52.02,0,0,0,12.38,0,29.69,0
    LBK_EN:I0100:Mathieson_2015,0,0,2.76,0,55.1,0.79,0,0,12.71,0,28.19,0.45
    LBK_EN:I0659:Mathieson_2015,0,0,1.45,0.11,57.06,0,0,0,12.12,0.15,29.07,0.04
    LBK_EN:I0795:Mathieson_2015,0,0,0,0,52.23,3.86,0,0,17.11,0,26.8,0
    LBK_EN:I0797:Mathieson_2015,0,0.45,3.45,0,59.31,0,0,0.53,15.77,0,20.49,0
    LBK_EN:I0821:Mathieson_2015,0,0,0,0,47.31,0,0,0,13.34,0,39.35,0
    LBK_EN:I1550:Mathieson_2015,0,0,5.15,0,54.63,1.49,0,0,11.04,0.24,27.45,0
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0231:Mathieson_2015,29.21,3.13,0,0,3.94,57.21,2.44,0,0,0,3.33,0.75
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0357:Mathieson_2015,30.56,1.4,0,0,7.38,54.65,1.41,0,0,0,4.49,0.12
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0370:Mathieson_2015,30.97,3.96,0,0,4.88,57.16,0.12,0,0,0,1.92,0.99
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0429:Mathieson_2015,28.47,1.92,0,0,3.71,62.57,0.96,0.21,0,0,1.45,0.7
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0438:Mathieson_2015,26.82,1.54,0,0.39,0.6,60.83,1.8,0,0,0,7.77,0.25
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0439:Mathieson_2015,24.1,0.47,0,0.94,8.87,55.96,2.12,0,0,0,7.16,0.37
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0441:Mathieson_2015,33.85,2.03,0,0.21,1.48,59.11,2.63,0,0,0,0,0.69
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0443:Mathieson_2015,29.61,2.46,0,0,3.67,58.66,0.07,0,0,0,4.84,0.69
    Yamnaya_Samara:I0444:Mathieson_2015,29.41,1.68,0,0,6.52,59.52,0.6,0.02,0,0,1.07,1.19
    Salzmuende_MN:I0800:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,0,54.66,15.81,0,0,12.45,0,16.82,0.26
    Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017,0,0,0,5.4,48.03,20.35,0,0,6.14,0,17.83,2.25
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0060:Mathieson_2015,15.27,0,0,0,31.48,41.81,1.02,0,0,0,9.03,1.4
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0108:Mathieson_2015,7.49,1.12,1.12,0,43.47,39.38,0.4,0,0.38,0.42,5.38,0.84
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0111:Mathieson_2015,9.74,0.15,1.55,0.31,38.48,39.9,0.89,0,0,0,8.79,0.19
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0112:Mathieson_2015,10.88,0.44,0,0,36.22,46.91,0.3,0.55,0,0,3.98,0.72
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0113:Mathieson_2015,7.82,0.92,0.79,0,40.86,38.66,0,0.29,4,0.52,6.14,0
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0805:Mathieson_2015,6.24,1.65,0,0,36.22,46,0,0,0,0,9.89,0
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I0806:Mathieson_2015,9.19,1.42,0,0.3,29.39,47.9,0.35,0.41,0,0,11.05,0
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I1546:Mathieson_2015,8.7,0,2.06,0.95,37.83,45.1,0,0,0,0,5.36,0
    Bell_Beaker_LN:I1549:Mathieson_2015,14.03,1.08,0.02,0,33.55,46.77,0.69,1.09,0,0,2.32,0.44
    Target Distance Bell_Beaker_LN CHG Iberomaurusian LBK_EN Remedello Salzmuende_MN SSA WHG_Loschbour Yamnaya_Samara
    Portugal:Portugal1 0.44326458 33.2 0.0 6.2 27.8 18.7 0.0 0.0 6.5 7.6
    Portugal:Portugal2 0.76371544 20.4 0.6 7.4 51.6 1.2 0.0 0.0 9.6 9.2
    Portugal:Portugal3 0.21371081 33.0 0.0 5.3 44.9 0.0 3.3 0.0 8.9 4.6
    Portugal:Portugal6 1.04906563 43.7 0.0 5.4 32.7 9.7 0.0 0.0 3.1 5.4
    Portugal:Portugal7 0.74014835 29.2 0.1 6.1 46.8 9.0 0.0 0.0 2.7 6.1
    Portugal:Portugal9 1.55800420 16.8 0.0 6.7 32.1 21.3 0.0 0.0 12.7 10.4
    Portugal:Portugal10 0.57267973 16.4 0.0 3.3 53.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 15.9 10.7
    Portugal:Portugal11 0.22303534 24.3 0.0 4.9 40.2 6.8 0.0 0.0 11.2 12.6
    Portugal:Portugal12 0.43674102 17.9 0.0 3.8 60.8 0.0 0.0 0.2 12.9 4.4
    Portugal:Portugal13 0.58113643 30.4 0.7 3.8 41.4 11.6 0.0 0.0 1.6 10.5
    Andalucia_1000Genomes 0.68449361 24.3 9.2 4.4 13.7 46.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.2
    Aragon_1000Genomes 0.66206795 13.5 0.0 2.0 12.4 56.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.1
    Baleares_1000Genomes 0.46185542 32.9 1.1 0.8 35.4 23.0 0.0 0.0 1.4 5.4
    Duarte 0.18360446 19.0 3.5 7.9 25.6 25.9 13.0 3.2 0.0 1.9
    Canarias_1000Genomes 0.89719134 25.3 3.6 14.7 17.6 35.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0
    Cantabria_1000Genomes 0.36878034 33.9 1.6 2.0 11.2 46.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.5
    Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes 0.54389783 11.7 0.0 2.3 19.3 49.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 17.3
    Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes 0.86136284 30.5 0.5 4.9 21.4 35.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.5
    Cataluna_1000Genomes 0.46078635 29.5 0.3 0.2 16.5 39.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 14.1
    Extremadura_1000Genomes 0.56272656 29.6 2.5 5.8 19.7 32.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.5
    Galicia_1000Genomes 0.43811747 37.2 0.0 4.4 24.8 24.2 0.6 0.0 3.7 5.1
    Murcia_1000Genomes 0.85479668 22.0 0.8 4.3 33.0 29.2 0.0 0.0 0.6 10.1
    Valencia_1000Genomes 0.63148175 20.1 2.9 1.5 9.3 54.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 11.6
    French_Provence-Provance2508 0.34556120 22.6 0.8 0.0 51.9 1.0 0.0 0.0 11.3 12.4
    French_Provence-Provance2708 0.38919215 5.4 1.5 0.4 74.6 0.5 0.0 0.0 4.9 12.7
    French_Provence-Provance4109 0.26635494 42.2 0.6 0.0 32.4 7.5 2.0 0.0 5.8 9.5
    French_Provence-Provance4409 0.11868779 34.9 1.1 0.0 37.8 0.1 0.0 0.4 16.5 9.2
    French_Provence-Provance4509 0.46292722 23.3 0.4 0.0 47.5 9.5 0.0 0.0 10.0 9.3
    Corsica:corsica1308 0.35595121 4.9 1.1 0.0 71.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.2 6.6
    Corsica:Corsica03708 0.32752607 5.8 1.8 0.8 70.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.5 8.2
    Corsica_o:corsica11908 0.36999876 20.5 1.1 0.2 57.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.4 8.1
    Corsica_o:Corsica14708 0.32516205 13.1 2.8 0.0 67.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.8 4.2
    Corsica:Corsica19508 0.39136382 2.2 0.0 0.3 69.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.4 11.5
    Corsica:Corsica24508 0.30514560 16.1 0.9 0.0 60.7 0.0 6.9 0.0 3.8 11.6
    Corsica:corsica29008 0.17923234 3.4 4.0 0.0 78.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.5 6.6
    Corsica:Corsica29708 0.37013683 12.4 4.4 0.0 67.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.5 8.1
    Corsica_o:CorsicaS00708 0.67508004 25.6 0.0 0.0 49.8 7.0 0.0 0.0 14.0 3.6
    Corsica:CorsicaS03308 0.21257042 12.4 3.5 0.0 63.2 0.0 2.4 0.0 13.6 4.9
    Corsica:CorsicaS04208 0.41711937 15.0 7.6 0.0 58.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.6 2.3
    Corsica:CorsicaS10208 0.50311433 12.9 4.1 0.3 65.1 0.0 3.9 0.0 13.7 0.0
    Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308 0.43357321 55.3 6.8 0.3 13.1 8.5 0.0 0.0 16.0 0.0
    Corsica:CorsicaS13808 1.07212617 0.0 3.9 2.0 60.4 0.0 6.2 0.9 26.6 0.0
    Corsica:CorsicaS15608 0.23904749 3.3 0.8 0.4 73.1 0.0 0.0 4.3 15.0 3.1
    Corsica:CorsicaS29908 0.63629300 5.1 10.7 0.4 61.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 22.2 0.5
    Average 0.51338246 21.2 1.9 2.6 43.7 13.9 0.9 0.2 8.3 7.3
    Last edited by Duarte; 04-07-22 at 03:42.

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    Target: Torziok12b
    Distance: 0.3374% / 0.33743849
    52.5 LBK_EN
    15.9 WHG_Loschbour
    14.5 Bell_Beaker_LN
    14.1 Yamnaya_Samara
    3.0 CHG

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    Duarte: Thanks for the coordinates for the K9 model you ran. I used those for the source data and got the results below. Seem plausible. Jovialis K8 model is included below and I think the interesting result is the LBK_EN samples from Haak et al 2015, Mathieson et al 2015 are 90% or more Anatolian/EEF in terms of source ancestry. Using your K9 model for Minoans, who would be later in time for all the source populations, except perhaps the Yamnaya (concurrent), the Minoan samples from Lazaridis et al 2014 average about 95% LBK_EN, 4% CHG and 1% Iberomaurusian. So my take, nothing more, is that the LBK_EN in your model and the Minoan in Jovialis K8 model are capturing the same source ancestry with respect to Italian populations in the Central-South/Sicily regions. I know it is all fun but good job.






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    Good model! Interestingly this model seems to not work very well with me

    Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλEURO
    Distance: 2.4275% / 2.42752023
    35.3 LBK_EN
    28.2 Bell_Beaker_LN
    17.9 Remedello
    7.7 WHG_Loschbour
    6.8 CHG
    4.1 Iberomaurusian
    Jovialis model for comparison:
    Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλEURO
    Distance: 0.9960% / 0.99603085
    44.3 C_Italian_ChL
    14.0 Nordic_BA
    12.9 Yamnaya
    10.5 Minoan
    7.4 Corded_Ware
    6.2 Remedello
    3.8 Iberomaurusian
    0.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
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    Just selected samples from the Epipaleolithic/Mesolithic to the Early Bronze Age to give me a good fit in the admixture mode.

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.4872% / 0.48722363
    45.5 Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
    14.4 Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017
    8.9 Anatolian_N:Bar31:Hofmanova_2016
    8.9 Remedello:RISE486:Allentoft_2015
    8.4 CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015
    5.9 Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018
    5.7 C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
    2.2 Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018
    0.1 Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.4872% / 0.48722363
    45.5 Scotland_CA_EBA
    14.4 Salzmuende_MN
    9.0 Remedello
    8.9 Anatolian_N
    8.4 CHG
    8.1 Iberomaurusian
    5.7 C_Italian_ChL

    PS: Going a bit further in time, now also including Iberian Bronze Age and Nordic Bronze Age.

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.3718% / 0.37177761
    40.1 Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
    17.8 Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017
    11.9 Anatolian_N:Bar31:Hofmanova_2016
    7.5 CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015
    7.2 SE_Iberia_BA:I8571:Olalde_2019
    5.9 NE_Iberia_MLN:I10282:Olalde_2019
    3.4 Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018
    2.3 Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018
    1.8 Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018
    1.5 Nordic_BA:RISE207:Allentoft_2015
    0.3 CHG:KK1_(Kotias):Jones_2015
    0.3 NE_Iberia_MLN:I10283:Olalde_2019
    Last edited by Duarte; 09-07-22 at 19:54.

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    Question

    I have two different results for this Dodecadk12b from Admixture Studio and GedMatch, is one better than the other? If it is which one is it?

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