You’re welcome Jovialis :)
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You’re welcome Jovialis :)
Here are all of the samples, I re-labeled them to match the study's PCA. Here they with the source as modern populations, and projecting the HO Greek and Italian samples, along with the new samples from Koptekin et al. 2022.
Combining the coordinates found in this post: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post661092
Here are all of the Ancient Greeks, with Italian and Greek HO samples, in addition to these new samples; projected over modern samples.
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Went back to the original paper, and it is absolutely comparable. Theopetra in Thessaly has the most EHG and CHG.
I'm out of juice, but thanks Jovialis. :)
Thanks also to Salento and Palermo. I don't know how I missed this paper. I'll add some thoughts to Palermo's post on it.
Oh, I see I didn't post the one-to-one match up for me.
Distance to: Angela 10.22200078 G37_Sarakenos_Aegean_2335-2300_calBCE 11.05099543 G23_Theopetra_Aegean_2335–2140_calBCE 23.57940415 G66_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE 24.08960979 G31_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE 24.80626131 G76a_Perachora_Aegean_2569-2340_calBCE 24.99860796 G65_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE 25.36908158 G62_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE 26.36976109 mus006_Anatolia_Musular_7180–7039_calBCE 26.61555560 mus005_Anatolia_Musular_7377–7167_calBCE 28.15710923 ulu117_Anatolia_Ulucak_4000–3000_BCE 28.35627267 GOR001_Anatolia_Gordion_333–0_BCE 31.81678802 CTG025_Cine-Tepecik_Anatolia_1977–1772_calBCE 32.00099530 gur016_S-Caucasus_Nazarlebi_Georgia_1500–1000_BCE_lc 33.64430858 BOG024_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_130–190_CE 34.26829584 BOG020_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_130–190_CE 36.84218506 BOG028_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_1000–1900_CE 38.87752564 BOG019_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_100–350_CE_lc 39.71966264 geo005_S-Caucasus_Didnauri_Georgia_1258–1049_calBCE 41.23105383 gur017_S-Caucasus_Nazarlebi_Georgia_1500–1000_BCE 41.54587344 GOR002_Anatolia_Gordion_333–0_BCE_lc 41.71331682 geo006_S-Caucasus_Didnauri_Georgia_1041–837_calBCE_lc 42.94213665 gur019_S-Caucasus_Nazarlebi_Georgia_1500–1000_BCE_lc 43.91811927 zrj003_S-Caucasus_Shamakhi_Azerbaijan_206–347_calCE 44.59165056 geo029_S-Caucasus_Didnauri_Georgia_1220–1016_calBCE 48.41738118 geo015_S-Caucasus_Doghlauri_Georgia_3016–2886_calBCE 50.42665962 geo017_S-Caucasus_Doghlauri_Georgia_1373–1118_calBCE_lc 55.58341389 sha004_Iran_Shahtepe_3487–3101_calBCE 56.07650221 sha012_Iran_Shahtepe_3200–3100_BCE 56.82824914 sha007_Iran_Shahtepe_3368–3100_calBCE 58.07963843 sha014_Iran_Shahtepe_3200–3100_BCE
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Angela: I meant to PM you as well when I sent an email to Jovialis and Salento but your email mail box was full and my message got rejected. First thing I thought of was what you and Jovialis thoughts were on the paper. Salento of course was every efficient and went to work, as he always does, and produced the coordinates for the forum.
I noted the Southern Arc papers because these new samples show the same results regarding Anatolia, no Steppe ancestry as the Southern Arc papers and also the new Greek samples in the Southern Arc papers. However, this paper documents some Steppe ancestry in the Greek mainland at 4,200 years ago, the earliest to date.
I do not want to stir up a hornets nest but given all the comments on the Southern Arc papers, my take is these new samples are 100% in line with what was reported in those papers. Of course new samples not yet analyzed may provide different results but the results of this new paper are remarkably consist with the Southern Arc papers.
Cheers, PT
Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 20-12-22 at 06:47.
Some new ones, if not already posted:
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Northwest African 35.25% Southwest Asian 18.95% Atlantic Med 17.32% Caucasus 9.77% Sub Saharan 9.22% East African 7.04% East Asian 2.46%