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    You’re welcome Jovialis :)

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    Here are all of the samples, I re-labeled them to match the study's PCA. Here they with the source as modern populations, and projecting the HO Greek and Italian samples, along with the new samples from Koptekin et al. 2022.

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    Combining the coordinates found in this post: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post661092

    Here are all of the Ancient Greeks, with Italian and Greek HO samples, in addition to these new samples; projected over modern samples.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    Here are all of the samples, I re-labeled them to match the study's PCA. Here they with the source as modern populations, and projecting the HO Greek and Italian samples, along with the new samples from Koptekin et al. 2022.
    Went back to the original paper, and it is absolutely comparable. Theopetra in Thessaly has the most EHG and CHG.

    I'm out of juice, but thanks Jovialis. :)

    Thanks also to Salento and Palermo. I don't know how I missed this paper. I'll add some thoughts to Palermo's post on it.

    Oh, I see I didn't post the one-to-one match up for me.

    Distance to: Angela
    10.22200078 G37_Sarakenos_Aegean_2335-2300_calBCE
    11.05099543 G23_Theopetra_Aegean_2335–2140_calBCE
    23.57940415 G66_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE
    24.08960979 G31_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE
    24.80626131 G76a_Perachora_Aegean_2569-2340_calBCE
    24.99860796 G65_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE
    25.36908158 G62_Perachora_Aegean_2700-2200_BCE
    26.36976109 mus006_Anatolia_Musular_7180–7039_calBCE
    26.61555560 mus005_Anatolia_Musular_7377–7167_calBCE
    28.15710923 ulu117_Anatolia_Ulucak_4000–3000_BCE
    28.35627267 GOR001_Anatolia_Gordion_333–0_BCE
    31.81678802 CTG025_Cine-Tepecik_Anatolia_1977–1772_calBCE
    32.00099530 gur016_S-Caucasus_Nazarlebi_Georgia_1500–1000_BCE_lc
    33.64430858 BOG024_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_130–190_CE
    34.26829584 BOG020_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_130–190_CE
    36.84218506 BOG028_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_1000–1900_CE
    38.87752564 BOG019_Bogazkoy_Anatolia_100–350_CE_lc
    39.71966264 geo005_S-Caucasus_Didnauri_Georgia_1258–1049_calBCE
    41.23105383 gur017_S-Caucasus_Nazarlebi_Georgia_1500–1000_BCE
    41.54587344 GOR002_Anatolia_Gordion_333–0_BCE_lc
    41.71331682 geo006_S-Caucasus_Didnauri_Georgia_1041–837_calBCE_lc
    42.94213665 gur019_S-Caucasus_Nazarlebi_Georgia_1500–1000_BCE_lc
    43.91811927 zrj003_S-Caucasus_Shamakhi_Azerbaijan_206–347_calCE
    44.59165056 geo029_S-Caucasus_Didnauri_Georgia_1220–1016_calBCE
    48.41738118 geo015_S-Caucasus_Doghlauri_Georgia_3016–2886_calBCE
    50.42665962 geo017_S-Caucasus_Doghlauri_Georgia_1373–1118_calBCE_lc
    55.58341389 sha004_Iran_Shahtepe_3487–3101_calBCE
    56.07650221 sha012_Iran_Shahtepe_3200–3100_BCE
    56.82824914 sha007_Iran_Shahtepe_3368–3100_calBCE
    58.07963843 sha014_Iran_Shahtepe_3200–3100_BCE


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    Angela: I meant to PM you as well when I sent an email to Jovialis and Salento but your email mail box was full and my message got rejected. First thing I thought of was what you and Jovialis thoughts were on the paper. Salento of course was every efficient and went to work, as he always does, and produced the coordinates for the forum.

    I noted the Southern Arc papers because these new samples show the same results regarding Anatolia, no Steppe ancestry as the Southern Arc papers and also the new Greek samples in the Southern Arc papers. However, this paper documents some Steppe ancestry in the Greek mainland at 4,200 years ago, the earliest to date.

    I do not want to stir up a hornets nest but given all the comments on the Southern Arc papers, my take is these new samples are 100% in line with what was reported in those papers. Of course new samples not yet analyzed may provide different results but the results of this new paper are remarkably consist with the Southern Arc papers.

    Cheers, PT
    Last edited by Palermo Trapani; 20-12-22 at 06:47.

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    Some new ones, if not already posted:


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    Northwest African 35.25%
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    Atlantic Med 17.32%
    Caucasus 9.77%
    Sub Saharan 9.22%
    East African 7.04%
    East Asian 2.46%

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