Genetic study Ancient DNA of Roman Danubian Frontier and Slavic Migrations (Olalde 2021)

[bigsnake49]

Has somebody run this Balkan_IA cluster against the Mycenean samples and the Northern Greece samples?

 

[ihype02]

Target: Serbian Distance: 0.6909% / 0.00690879
56.0	Albanian
44.0	Polish

This covers up the Germanic admixture. And Albanians have some 10-20% Slavic admixture.
So a 50%-55% contribution from a Polish like source totally excluding any other northern component seem to be it.

 

[Jovialis]

Has somebody run this Balkan_IA cluster against the Mycenean samples and the Northern Greece samples?

Top 100 samples for Balkan_IA from Bulgaria:

Distance to:	Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
2.90867668	Szolad19:Amorim_2018
5.39702696	Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
5.97126452	ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.31751533	TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.33814642	Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017
6.58705549	Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
6.68239478	Philistine_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
6.68906570	ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.69637962	Szolad40:Amorim_2018
7.01943018	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
7.16307895	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
7.21441612	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
7.56137554	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antonio_2019
7.82440413	VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
8.10499229	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
8.42407265	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antonio_2019
8.58244138	Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
8.68173946	Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
8.73416281	C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:Antonio_2019
8.93244647	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
9.17227889	Sardinia_IA_Usellus:I10366:Fernandes_2020
9.20607408	I8215:Olalde_2019
9.21489555	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
9.28442244	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:Antonio_2019
9.30970998	ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.44556510	MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
9.45461263	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
9.53957546	POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.55283727	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:Antonio_2019
9.56697444	Varna_Bulgaria_EN:ANI159_ANI181:Mathieson_2018
9.86583499	Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antonio_2019
9.97174007	TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.03113154	C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
10.07939978	Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020
10.11082094	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
10.16710382	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
10.29629059	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
10.31569678	VET008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.35871614	Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
10.40890484	Lengyel_LN:I1900:Lipson_2017
10.49786645	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
10.59222828	TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.78863754	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
10.85986188	MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.88262836	TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.89260299	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_2019
10.92477002	NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019
10.93739914	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
10.94508109	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
11.03417872	TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.09804938	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
11.24835544	TAQ007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.30994253	Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
11.35761859	Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
11.36807811	VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.38150693	Collegno121:Amorim_2018
11.39101839	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
11.48810689	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
11.50944829	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:Antonio_2019
11.56055795	TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.70153409	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
11.73796405	Armenoi_Crete:I9123:Lazaridis_2017
11.78249973	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
11.78774363	TAQ023:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.86218783	VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.87153318	Bulgaria_LChL:I2424:Mathieson_2018
11.88846079	Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.00920480	Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
12.05581602	Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
12.08568575	ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.11505262	Baden_LCA:I2763:Lipson_2017
12.12873035	Bulgaria_LChL:I2427:Mathieson_2018
12.18288143	VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.19082032	Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020
12.20058195	Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.23278382	Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fernandes_2020
12.30932167	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
12.32796415	SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
12.39380894	Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
12.39960080	MA2197amgaard_2018
12.47745968	VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.59956348	Bulgaria_LChL:I2430:Mathieson_2018
12.65617636	Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
12.73392320	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
12.74432815	Bulgaria_MChL:I2431:Mathieson_2018
12.74915683	Szolad31:Amorim_2018
12.94903857	Mycenaean:I9006:Lazaridis_2017
13.07608122	Szolad36:Amorim_2018
13.11513629	C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_2019
13.12317416	Sopot_LN:I4185:Lipson_2017
13.15774677	Szolad43:Amorim_2018
13.18181323	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
13.19350219	I1979:Olalde_2018
13.39189307	Balkans_N:I0706:Mathieson_2018
13.40689375	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
13.46992947	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
13.47103188	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
13.48119431	Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
13.49352067	C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
13.51390025	Bon001:Kilinc_2016

 

[Jovialis]

Top 100 samples for Balkan_IA from Bulgaria:

Distance to:	Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
2.90867668	Szolad19:Amorim_2018
5.39702696	Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
5.97126452	ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.31751533	TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.33814642	Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017
6.58705549	Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
6.68239478	Philistine_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
6.68906570	ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.69637962	Szolad40:Amorim_2018
7.01943018	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
7.16307895	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
7.21441612	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
7.56137554	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antonio_2019
7.82440413	VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
8.10499229	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
8.42407265	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antonio_2019
8.58244138	Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
8.68173946	Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
8.73416281	C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:Antonio_2019
8.93244647	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
9.17227889	Sardinia_IA_Usellus:I10366:Fernandes_2020
9.20607408	I8215:Olalde_2019
9.21489555	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
9.28442244	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:Antonio_2019
9.30970998	ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.44556510	MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
9.45461263	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
9.53957546	POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.55283727	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:Antonio_2019
9.56697444	Varna_Bulgaria_EN:ANI159_ANI181:Mathieson_2018
9.86583499	Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antonio_2019
9.97174007	TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.03113154	C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
10.07939978	Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020
10.11082094	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
10.16710382	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
10.29629059	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
10.31569678	VET008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.35871614	Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
10.40890484	Lengyel_LN:I1900:Lipson_2017
10.49786645	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
10.59222828	TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.78863754	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
10.85986188	MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.88262836	TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.89260299	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_2019
10.92477002	NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019
10.93739914	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
10.94508109	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
11.03417872	TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.09804938	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
11.24835544	TAQ007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.30994253	Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
11.35761859	Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
11.36807811	VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.38150693	Collegno121:Amorim_2018
11.39101839	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
11.48810689	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
11.50944829	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:Antonio_2019
11.56055795	TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.70153409	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
11.73796405	Armenoi_Crete:I9123:Lazaridis_2017
11.78249973	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
11.78774363	TAQ023:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.86218783	VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.87153318	Bulgaria_LChL:I2424:Mathieson_2018
11.88846079	Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.00920480	Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
12.05581602	Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
12.08568575	ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.11505262	Baden_LCA:I2763:Lipson_2017
12.12873035	Bulgaria_LChL:I2427:Mathieson_2018
12.18288143	VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.19082032	Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020
12.20058195	Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.23278382	Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fernandes_2020
12.30932167	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
12.32796415	SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
12.39380894	Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
12.39960080	MA2197amgaard_2018
12.47745968	VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.59956348	Bulgaria_LChL:I2430:Mathieson_2018
12.65617636	Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
12.73392320	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
12.74432815	Bulgaria_MChL:I2431:Mathieson_2018
12.74915683	Szolad31:Amorim_2018
12.94903857	Mycenaean:I9006:Lazaridis_2017
13.07608122	Szolad36:Amorim_2018
13.11513629	C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_2019
13.12317416	Sopot_LN:I4185:Lipson_2017
13.15774677	Szolad43:Amorim_2018
13.18181323	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
13.19350219	I1979:Olalde_2018
13.39189307	Balkans_N:I0706:Mathieson_2018
13.40689375	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
13.46992947	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
13.47103188	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
13.48119431	Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
13.49352067	C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
13.51390025	Bon001:Kilinc_2016

Balkans_IA was a part of the Southern European pan-Mediterranean genetic continuum of Classical Antiquity.

 

[kingjohn]

Balkans_IA was part of the pan-Mediterranean genetic continuum of Classical Antiquity in southern Europe.

thats what i get when i put
the k12b values of this tharcian lady you posted above
in k12b updated calculator in vahaduo ( italian marche)

Distance to:	Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
9.93399839	Italian_Marche
10.06689624	French_Corsica
10.48634827	Italian_Campania
10.82355302	Italian_Abruzzo
11.46389114	Italian_Lazio
11.62009036	Italian_Romagna
12.30486489	Italian_Sicily
12.77579352	Italian_Calabria
13.08537351	Italian_Tuscany
13.42223901	Ashkenazi_Jews
13.47702489	Italian_Apulia
13.72006195	Greek_Athens
14.07487478	Greek_Central
14.51890836	Greek_Foca
14.57305047	Italian_Emilia
14.58877651	Albanian
14.69527815	Moldovan_Jewish
15.00197987	Greek_Lemnos
15.14945214	Italian_Liguria
15.27454091	Greek_Icaria
15.35805977	Italian_Jews
15.46250950	Greek_Izmir
15.83988005	Greek_Peloponnese
15.89330991	Greek_Fournoi
16.28460930	Sephardic_Jews

 

[ihype02]

Top 100 samples for Balkan_IA from Bulgaria:

Distance to:	Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
2.90867668	Szolad19:Amorim_2018
5.39702696	Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
5.97126452	ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.31751533	TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.33814642	Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017
6.58705549	Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
6.68239478	Philistine_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
6.68906570	ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.69637962	Szolad40:Amorim_2018
7.01943018	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
7.16307895	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
7.21441612	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
7.56137554	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antonio_2019
7.82440413	VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
8.10499229	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
8.42407265	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antonio_2019
8.58244138	Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
8.68173946	Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
8.73416281	C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:Antonio_2019
8.93244647	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
9.17227889	Sardinia_IA_Usellus:I10366:Fernandes_2020
9.20607408	I8215:Olalde_2019
9.21489555	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
9.28442244	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:Antonio_2019
9.30970998	ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.44556510	MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
9.45461263	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
9.53957546	POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.55283727	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:Antonio_2019
9.56697444	Varna_Bulgaria_EN:ANI159_ANI181:Mathieson_2018
9.86583499	Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antonio_2019
9.97174007	TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.03113154	C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
10.07939978	Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020
10.11082094	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
10.16710382	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
10.29629059	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
10.31569678	VET008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.35871614	Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
10.40890484	Lengyel_LN:I1900:Lipson_2017
10.49786645	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
10.59222828	TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.78863754	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
10.85986188	MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.88262836	TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.89260299	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_2019
10.92477002	NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019
10.93739914	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
10.94508109	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
11.03417872	TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.09804938	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
11.24835544	TAQ007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.30994253	Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
11.35761859	Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
11.36807811	VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.38150693	Collegno121:Amorim_2018
11.39101839	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
11.48810689	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
11.50944829	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:Antonio_2019
11.56055795	TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.70153409	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
11.73796405	Armenoi_Crete:I9123:Lazaridis_2017
11.78249973	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
11.78774363	TAQ023:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.86218783	VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.87153318	Bulgaria_LChL:I2424:Mathieson_2018
11.88846079	Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.00920480	Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
12.05581602	Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
12.08568575	ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.11505262	Baden_LCA:I2763:Lipson_2017
12.12873035	Bulgaria_LChL:I2427:Mathieson_2018
12.18288143	VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.19082032	Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020
12.20058195	Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.23278382	Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fernandes_2020
12.30932167	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
12.32796415	SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
12.39380894	Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
12.39960080	MA2197amgaard_2018
12.47745968	VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.59956348	Bulgaria_LChL:I2430:Mathieson_2018
12.65617636	Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
12.73392320	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
12.74432815	Bulgaria_MChL:I2431:Mathieson_2018
12.74915683	Szolad31:Amorim_2018
12.94903857	Mycenaean:I9006:Lazaridis_2017
13.07608122	Szolad36:Amorim_2018
13.11513629	C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_2019
13.12317416	Sopot_LN:I4185:Lipson_2017
13.15774677	Szolad43:Amorim_2018
13.18181323	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
13.19350219	I1979:Olalde_2018
13.39189307	Balkans_N:I0706:Mathieson_2018
13.40689375	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
13.46992947	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
13.47103188	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
13.48119431	Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
13.49352067	C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
13.51390025	Bon001:Kilinc_2016

It's closer to Empuries in G25.

Distance to:	BGR_IA:I5769
0.03041607	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.03166708	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.03732499	DEU_MA_Baiuvaric_o:STR_300
0.03884513	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1287
0.04009300	HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.04048056	GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.04073642	ZEM39:ZEM39
0.04191957	ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR973
0.04270991	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR49
0.04335066	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1283
0.04413248	Scythian_HUNA198
0.04418607	ITA_Collegno_MA:CL121
0.04436409	HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40
0.04441730	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR65
0.04501235	HRV_Pop_CAOP39
0.04507240	ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121
0.04511802	ITA_Sardinia_IA:I10366
0.04519115	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR125
0.04521058	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR54
0.04532636	ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR111
0.04603904	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1290
0.04614051	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR58
0.04625210	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1285
0.04632843	ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR56
0.04661418	ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR969

 

[Jovialis]

I know it is irrelevant, but I find my labeling to be easier on the eyes and more aesthetically pleasing, than G25.

 

[bigsnake49]

Top 100 samples for Balkan_IA from Bulgaria:

Distance to:	Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
2.90867668	Szolad19:Amorim_2018
5.39702696	Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
5.97126452	ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.31751533	TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.33814642	Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017
6.58705549	Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
6.68239478	Philistine_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
6.68906570	ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.69637962	Szolad40:Amorim_2018
7.01943018	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
7.16307895	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
7.21441612	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
7.56137554	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antonio_2019
7.82440413	VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
8.10499229	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
8.42407265	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antonio_2019
8.58244138	Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
8.68173946	Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
8.73416281	C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:Antonio_2019
8.93244647	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
9.17227889	Sardinia_IA_Usellus:I10366:Fernandes_2020
9.20607408	I8215:Olalde_2019
9.21489555	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
9.28442244	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:Antonio_2019
9.30970998	ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.44556510	MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
9.45461263	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
9.53957546	POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.55283727	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:Antonio_2019
9.56697444	Varna_Bulgaria_EN:ANI159_ANI181:Mathieson_2018
9.86583499	Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antonio_2019
9.97174007	TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.03113154	C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
10.07939978	Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020
10.11082094	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
10.16710382	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
10.29629059	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
10.31569678	VET008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.35871614	Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
10.40890484	Lengyel_LN:I1900:Lipson_2017
10.49786645	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
10.59222828	TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.78863754	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
10.85986188	MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.88262836	TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.89260299	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_2019
10.92477002	NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019
10.93739914	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
10.94508109	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
11.03417872	TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.09804938	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
11.24835544	TAQ007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.30994253	Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
11.35761859	Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
11.36807811	VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.38150693	Collegno121:Amorim_2018
11.39101839	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
11.48810689	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
11.50944829	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:Antonio_2019
11.56055795	TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.70153409	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
11.73796405	Armenoi_Crete:I9123:Lazaridis_2017
11.78249973	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
11.78774363	TAQ023:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.86218783	VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.87153318	Bulgaria_LChL:I2424:Mathieson_2018
11.88846079	Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.00920480	Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
12.05581602	Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
12.08568575	ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.11505262	Baden_LCA:I2763:Lipson_2017
12.12873035	Bulgaria_LChL:I2427:Mathieson_2018
12.18288143	VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.19082032	Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020
12.20058195	Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.23278382	Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fernandes_2020
12.30932167	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
12.32796415	SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
12.39380894	Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
12.39960080	MA2197amgaard_2018
12.47745968	VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.59956348	Bulgaria_LChL:I2430:Mathieson_2018
12.65617636	Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
12.73392320	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
12.74432815	Bulgaria_MChL:I2431:Mathieson_2018
12.74915683	Szolad31:Amorim_2018
12.94903857	Mycenaean:I9006:Lazaridis_2017
13.07608122	Szolad36:Amorim_2018
13.11513629	C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_2019
13.12317416	Sopot_LN:I4185:Lipson_2017
13.15774677	Szolad43:Amorim_2018
13.18181323	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
13.19350219	I1979:Olalde_2018
13.39189307	Balkans_N:I0706:Mathieson_2018
13.40689375	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
13.46992947	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
13.47103188	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
13.48119431	Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
13.49352067	C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
13.51390025	Bon001:Kilinc_2016

Thank you. Very close to Szolad, close to couple of the mycenaeans but then far away from the others and also far away from the Northern Greek samples and some of the other Thracian samples. The story is a bit more complicated.
Also since it seems that that the "Slavic invasion" seems to be female driven do we have a mtDNA map for the prevalent mtDNA clades.

 

[ihype02]

Also since it seems that that the "Slavic invasion" seems to be female driven do we have a mtDNA map for the prevalent mtDNA clades.

How? Aren't I2a and R1a in Macedonia and Thrace alone 35% to 40%?
60% in Croatia, roughly 50% in Serbia and roughly 40% in Bulgaria.
Slavs were not pure I2a and R1a either, those 2 markers probably carry from 2/3 to 3/4, IMHO, of overall Slavic Y-DNA.

 

[torzio]

Here is Balkan_IA in Dodecad K12b format.

Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018,2.57,0,2.28,0,37.94,13.19,0,0,9.59,0.01,34.31,0.12

thanks

appears nowhere for myself

BTW....you should split K12b ancients ....into samples in BC times and samples in AD times

Distance to:	Torziok12b
1.89726118	R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.40054542	I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
4.63928874	R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
4.65137614	R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
4.82277928	Collegno23
4.86300319	R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.02880702	I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.15625833	R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
6.00532264	Szolad28
6.41286208	France_IA_NOR3-15
6.56872895	France_IA_ERS88
6.60955369	Collegno49
6.88000000	I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
6.93799683	Collegno94
7.28685117	R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.57478052	I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.62312272	Collegno57
7.70831369	Collegno36
7.72828571	Collegno47
7.79092421	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
7.86207988	R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
7.88022842	R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.89459942	Bavaria_BB_II5524
7.93197958	Szolad45
8.04795626	I3866_NE_Iberia_c.6-8CE_ES

 

[torzio]

You can find all of the latest coordinates here, I put this up on August 30th:

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/41751-aDNA-(Dodecad-K12b)

thanks

running your new one ....I get

Distance to:	Torziok12b
1.89726118	C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R55:Antonio_2019
3.58079600	Burgweinting–Nord-West_II_(ADH)_388-532calADA_Female:NW54:Veeramah_2018
4.26423498	I3593:Olalde_2018
4.63928874	C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R105:Antonio_2019
4.73068705	Hungary_BA:I7041:Olalde_2018
4.82277928	Collegno23:Amorim_2018
4.85309180	Croatia_EMBA:I4331:Mathieson_2018
4.90795273	Etruscan_IA:R474:Antonio_2019
4.94308608	Protovillanovan_IA:R1:Antonio_2019
4.95979838	C7-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R33:Antonio_2019
4.99818967	I7040:Olalde_2018
5.02880702	Croatia_EMBA:I4332:Mathieson_2018
5.71485783	I5017:Olalde_2018
5.89447199	La_Tène_IA:ERS88:Brunel_2020
5.93363295	Beaker_Central_Europe:E09538:Olalde_2018
6.00532264	Szolad28:Amorim_2018
6.59958332	Beaker_Central_Europe:I4885:Olalde_2018
6.60955369	Collegno49:Amorim_2018
6.63158352	Hungary_BA:I7043:Olalde_2018
6.67385945	MOK13:Zegarac_2021
6.71792379	Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020
6.78342097	Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log04:Clemente_2021
6.88000000	Vucedol:I3499:Mathieson_2018
6.93799683	Collegno94:Amorim_2018
7.07471554	C7-Cancelleria_MA:R1221:Antonio_2019

 

[Angela]

Could someone provide links for papers or data showing the percentage of the "Slavic" I2 and R1a in the Balkans? Our chart here at Eupedia must be out of data if those figures are correct.

 

[Angela]

Top 100 samples for Balkan_IA from Bulgaria:

Distance to:	Balkan_(Bulgaria)_IA:I5769:Mathieson_2018
2.90867668	Szolad19:Amorim_2018
5.39702696	Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
5.97126452	ETR013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.31751533	TAQ021:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.33814642	Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017
6.58705549	Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
6.68239478	Philistine_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
6.68906570	ETR010:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
6.69637962	Szolad40:Amorim_2018
7.01943018	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R52:Antonio_2019
7.16307895	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1287:Antonio_2019
7.21441612	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1285:Antonio_2019
7.56137554	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R113:Antonio_2019
7.82440413	VEN005:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
8.10499229	C6-Cancelleria_MA:R1283:Antonio_2019
8.42407265	C6-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R131:Antonio_2019
8.58244138	Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
8.68173946	Alamannic-Frankish-Female:STR300b:Veeramah_2018
8.73416281	C5-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R122:Antonio_2019
8.93244647	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
9.17227889	Sardinia_IA_Usellus:I10366:Fernandes_2020
9.20607408	I8215:Olalde_2019
9.21489555	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
9.28442244	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R118:Antonio_2019
9.30970998	ETR006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.44556510	MOK17A:Zegarac_2021
9.45461263	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
9.53957546	POP001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.55283727	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R120:Antonio_2019
9.56697444	Varna_Bulgaria_EN:ANI159_ANI181:Mathieson_2018
9.86583499	Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R111:Antonio_2019
9.97174007	TAQ009:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.03113154	C6-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R107:Antonio_2019
10.07939978	Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020
10.11082094	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
10.16710382	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R59:Antonio_2019
10.29629059	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R35:Antonio_2019
10.31569678	VET008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.35871614	Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
10.40890484	Lengyel_LN:I1900:Lipson_2017
10.49786645	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
10.59222828	TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.78863754	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R58:Antonio_2019
10.85986188	MAS003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.88262836	TAQ022:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
10.89260299	C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R47:Antonio_2019
10.92477002	NE_Iberia_Hel_(Empúries2):I8208:Olalde_2019
10.93739914	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
10.94508109	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R65:Antonio_2019
11.03417872	TAQ011:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.09804938	C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
11.24835544	TAQ007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.30994253	Scythian:scy197:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
11.35761859	Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
11.36807811	VEN017:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.38150693	Collegno121:Amorim_2018
11.39101839	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R32:Antonio_2019
11.48810689	C6-Celio_Late_Antiquity:R36:Antonio_2019
11.50944829	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R117:Antonio_2019
11.56055795	TAQ020:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.70153409	C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
11.73796405	Armenoi_Crete:I9123:Lazaridis_2017
11.78249973	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
11.78774363	TAQ023:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.86218783	VEN015:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
11.87153318	Bulgaria_LChL:I2424:Mathieson_2018
11.88846079	Scythian:scy192:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.00920480	Alteglofsheim_(ADH)_480-510AD_Female:AEHIb:Veeramah_2018
12.05581602	Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
12.08568575	ETR014:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.11505262	Baden_LCA:I2763:Lipson_2017
12.12873035	Bulgaria_LChL:I2427:Mathieson_2018
12.18288143	VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.19082032	Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020
12.20058195	Scythian:scy300:Krzewinska_2018_(Oct)
12.23278382	Sardinia_Late_Antiquity_Grotta_Colombi:I12220:Fernandes_2020
12.30932167	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R53:Antonio_2019
12.32796415	SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I4054:Olalde_2019
12.39380894	Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
12.39960080	MA2197amgaard_2018
12.47745968	VEN001:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
12.59956348	Bulgaria_LChL:I2430:Mathieson_2018
12.65617636	Helladic_Logkas_MBA:Log02:Clemente_2021
12.73392320	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
12.74432815	Bulgaria_MChL:I2431:Mathieson_2018
12.74915683	Szolad31:Amorim_2018
12.94903857	Mycenaean:I9006:Lazaridis_2017
13.07608122	Szolad36:Amorim_2018
13.11513629	C6-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R137:Antonio_2019
13.12317416	Sopot_LN:I4185:Lipson_2017
13.15774677	Szolad43:Amorim_2018
13.18181323	C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
13.19350219	I1979:Olalde_2018
13.39189307	Balkans_N:I0706:Mathieson_2018
13.40689375	C5-Mausole_di_Augusto_Late_Antiquity:R30:Antonio_2019
13.46992947	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R64:Antonio_2019
13.47103188	C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
13.48119431	Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
13.49352067	C6-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R125:Antonio_2019
13.51390025	Bon001:Kilinc_2016

Even after all the steppe migrations that were supposed to change everything, they didn't move very far from Mycenaeans, did they?

 

[bigsnake49]

How? Aren't I2a and R1a in Macedonia and Thrace alone 35% to 40%?
60% in Croatia, roughly 50% in Serbia and roughly 40% in Bulgaria.
Slavs were not pure I2a and R1a either, those 2 markers probably carry from 2/3 to 3/4, IMHO, of overall Slavic Y-DNA.

Where did you get those percentages? per Eupedia, Northern Greece has an 18% R1a no breakdown between Slavic/non slavic clades and only 16% between I2*/I2a and in Southern Greece they total about 20%. Where is the wholesale population replacement?

 

[Bill7]

How? Aren't I2a and R1a in Macedonia and Thrace alone 35% to 40%?
60% in Croatia, roughly 50% in Serbia and roughly 40% in Bulgaria.
Slavs were not pure I2a and R1a either, those 2 markers probably carry from 2/3 to 3/4, IMHO, of overall Slavic Y-DNA.

Sometimes ydna isn't totally accurate for example Armenians have 20% r1b but autosomally they have only 5% steppe

 

[lacreme]

Where did you get those percentages?

Probably from a couple of maps about Balkans and Italy showing the percentages of Slavic and Germanic lineages respectively made by a user called Pasha if I recall correctly. Can't remember if he ever posted his sources though.

 

[ihype02]

Where did you get those percentages?

You can search on the wikipedia page of the Y DNA of Bulgarians, Serbs and Croats and get those numbers.
And there is the Eupedia chart and map too that Maciamo made.

 

[ihype02]

Regarding the Slavic input in Greece the right question was if Slavs contributed a substantial alternation in the population of mainland Greece but still a minority percentage or if they replaced the bulk of the population. I thought those results would make you happy? I did not know you guys were expecting a 10-15% contribution?
Some of you are completely out of touch.

 

[Archetype0ne]

Thank you. Very close to Szolad, close to couple of the mycenaeans but then far away from the others and also far away from the Northern Greek samples and some of the other Thracian samples. The story is a bit more complicated.
Also since it seems that that the "Slavic invasion" seems to be female driven do we have a mtDNA map for the prevalent mtDNA clades.

That is a very good hypothesis and way to test now that you mentioned it, in combination with the post from Dushman.

We can look at Slavic vs pre-Slavic Eastern MTDNA + YDNA and compare it to the autosomal results in the Balkans to gain insights.

 

[bigsnake49]

Regarding the Slavic input in Greece the right question was if Slavs contributed a substantial alternation in the population of mainland Greece but still a minority percentage or if they replaced the bulk of the population. I thought those results would make you happy? I did not know you guys were expecting a 10-15% contribution?
Some of you are completely out of touch.

Look I don't know who brought up the byzantine era authors but if you read them you got the impression that the population of Greece was completely replaced by Slavs first and then by Albanians. We already knew the percentages before, nothing new really. We already knew that between the Albanians, the Slavs and the Vlachs there was a substantial slavic input but the wholesale replacement idea needs to be shelved forever.