mongrel
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Hello all, I did, some time ago, a DNA test with LivingDNA with the original results showing I am haplogroup E-V13, 88% English and 12% 'european'. Shortly afterwards, I uploaded the same DNA to MyTrueAncestry and that came back with primarily Danish/North German ancestry so Celt/Frank - all good (although admittedly all the samples given were haplogroup R1a.. and none E1b.), seems to tie in nicely with the idea of movement from Europe over to England and with my 'old' Saxon/Scandinavian patronymic surname and male line traceable back to 1640, all in central Derbyshire.
This changed a little following the mid-2021 LivingDNA update that showed me as 97% English, with just 3% North German and again, most of the 97% is Central England, which is good as their analysis goes back only 10 generations I think which in turn ties in exactly with what we've discovered down my male line.
However, following a discussion on haplogroups and only the R1a.. results in MyTrueAncestry, I uploaded my DNA results again to see if MyTrueAncestry could correctly determine my haplogroup this time and if, like LivingDNA, their results could have also changed.
And they certainly have!
Gone is the Celt and Frank alignment, instead, there's this....
Byzantine + Roman Hispania (10.63)
Byzantine + Roman (10.77)
Byzantine + Hellenic Roman (11.34)
Seleucid + Roman (11.86)
Seleucid + Roman Hispania (12.37)
Byzantine (15.54)
Roman (15.81)
Seleucid (15.93)
Hellenic Roman (18.36)
... more than a little unexpected I must say! Obviously all my previous Deep Dive examples have gone (including one very strong R1a... result in Jutland) to be replaced with weaker examples, but this time E1b1...., mainly in the Mediterranean. It was so unexpected that I deleted and reloaded the DNA file to check it wasn't just a misreading or miscalculation. I did get subtly different results (more hits rather than 'just' Roman, Hellenic Roman, Minoan, Carthaginian and different examples given) but essentially the same result as shown above.
This conflicts so much with what I had previously it is raising questions:-
- is MyTrueAncestry accurate? The fact it does keep giving differing results concerns me.
- if the results are correct how and when did my ancestors get from the Med to the UK (my thoughts are that as there appears no or little ancestry in Europe, perhaps 'my lot' went straight through without stopping? Is this an incorrect presumption?)
- how did I get my surname (although any illegitimacy could easily explain that away) - but does it really reflect any celt/frank origin or not?
So, light-heartedly, was I a member of the Coritani or of their Roman overlords?
Any help or suggestions or discussion will be gratefully received.
As always guys, thanks in advance!
This changed a little following the mid-2021 LivingDNA update that showed me as 97% English, with just 3% North German and again, most of the 97% is Central England, which is good as their analysis goes back only 10 generations I think which in turn ties in exactly with what we've discovered down my male line.
However, following a discussion on haplogroups and only the R1a.. results in MyTrueAncestry, I uploaded my DNA results again to see if MyTrueAncestry could correctly determine my haplogroup this time and if, like LivingDNA, their results could have also changed.
And they certainly have!
Gone is the Celt and Frank alignment, instead, there's this....
Byzantine + Roman Hispania (10.63)
Byzantine + Roman (10.77)
Byzantine + Hellenic Roman (11.34)
Seleucid + Roman (11.86)
Seleucid + Roman Hispania (12.37)
Byzantine (15.54)
Roman (15.81)
Seleucid (15.93)
Hellenic Roman (18.36)
... more than a little unexpected I must say! Obviously all my previous Deep Dive examples have gone (including one very strong R1a... result in Jutland) to be replaced with weaker examples, but this time E1b1...., mainly in the Mediterranean. It was so unexpected that I deleted and reloaded the DNA file to check it wasn't just a misreading or miscalculation. I did get subtly different results (more hits rather than 'just' Roman, Hellenic Roman, Minoan, Carthaginian and different examples given) but essentially the same result as shown above.
This conflicts so much with what I had previously it is raising questions:-
- is MyTrueAncestry accurate? The fact it does keep giving differing results concerns me.
- if the results are correct how and when did my ancestors get from the Med to the UK (my thoughts are that as there appears no or little ancestry in Europe, perhaps 'my lot' went straight through without stopping? Is this an incorrect presumption?)
- how did I get my surname (although any illegitimacy could easily explain that away) - but does it really reflect any celt/frank origin or not?
So, light-heartedly, was I a member of the Coritani or of their Roman overlords?
Any help or suggestions or discussion will be gratefully received.
As always guys, thanks in advance!