SubgroupE-FT186965

[MandM]

I know that gene flow in many directions happened, especially in Eastern Central Europe, because sometimes people of an ethnicity, man and women, assimilated into the majority population of their environment or chose to follow a specific group, marry into one. That way even Czechs, Germans and Hungarians could have ended up there, beside various Vlach/Romanian and Slavic/Serb groups. Of course, your Vlach origin is surely the most likely scenario, no doubt about it, but you can't know for sure unless you have ancient DNA combined with a lot of modern matches, a good reconstructed phylogeny.
That Bulgaria is closest in moderns is also something else, because similar autosomal compositions can be spread differently in prehistorial and modern contexts, plus the yDNA has no influence on it. Again I think you are on the right track, but you can't be 100 % sure about it.
Also, I don't think that local Vlachs which were not from further South would have been that different anyway.

I understand, then it is a waiting game untill more ancient and moderna dna turn up i guess

 

[Gilgamesh]

Hi all
I did bigY a while back and got my subgrups that changed quite rapid, but for a while now it hase stayed on E-FT186965 for a while know, but I dont know anything about it, how old, is it Greek, Albanian, Serbian,Bulgarian, whuld appriciet any input

Your position on FTDNA haplotree :
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/E;name=E-FT186965

Your pedigree : https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnapedigree.asp?snp=FT186965&Chromosome=Y&snp2=&DB=0

You are somewhere here on Yfull haplotree : https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y97307/ (it should be worth to upload your BAM file to Yfull, many sample aren't from FTDNA (Nebula,Yseq,Dante Labs...)

SNP Tracker :
http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html?snp=E-FT186965&walk&options=eabr

 

[MandM]

Your position on FTDNA haplotree :
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/E;name=E-FT186965

Your pedigree : https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnapedigree.asp?snp=FT186965&Chromosome=Y&snp2=&DB=0

You are somewhere here on Yfull haplotree : https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y97307/ (it should be worth to upload your BAM file to Yfull, many sample aren't from FTDNA (Nebula,Yseq,Dante Labs...)

SNP Tracker :
http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html?snp=E-FT186965&walk&options=eabr

Thanks! I have awsked for the Bam file, and now just waiting for it

 

[MandM]

Your position on FTDNA haplotree :
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/E;name=E-FT186965

Your pedigree : https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnapedigree.asp?snp=FT186965&Chromosome=Y&snp2=&DB=0

You are somewhere here on Yfull haplotree : https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y97307/ (it should be worth to upload your BAM file to Yfull, many sample aren't from FTDNA (Nebula,Yseq,Dante Labs...)

SNP Tracker :
http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html?snp=E-FT186965&walk&options=eabr

I am now on Yfull, at the moment E-97307, when its fully done and uppdated i guess it will come as a new branch E-FT186965 as the one i have on ftdna

 

[MandM]

Small update! Whe have found out that the unkown has taken his dna test through Igenea, and I have got an igenea email to him, sadly he hasent awnserd yet hoppfully he will soon

 

[Gilgamesh]

Hi all
I did bigY a while back and got my subgrups that changed quite rapid, but for a while now it hase stayed on E-FT186965 for a while know, but I dont know anything about it, how old, is it Greek, Albanian, Serbian,Bulgarian, whuld appriciet any input

Roughly, you are E-V13 -->E-Z5016 --> E-SK888 carrier

Your position on Y haplotree : https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/E;name=E-FT186965

Your pedigree, (Table of all your subclades) :
https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnapedigree.asp?snp=FT186965&Chromosome=Y&snp2=&DB=0

Your position on Yfull haplotree, You are most likely under E-Y160670 subclade 1650 years old, it match with Slavic/Germanic migration in Balkan during Roman/Byzantine Empire : (it should be worth to order your BAM file from FTDNA 100$ and upload it to Yfull 49$) :
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y97307/
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y160670/

 

[MandM]

Roughly, you are E-V13 -->E-Z5016 --> E-SK888 carrier

Your position on Y haplotree : https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/E;name=E-FT186965

Your pedigree, (Table of all your subclades) :
https://www.genetichomeland.com/welcome/dnapedigree.asp?snp=FT186965&Chromosome=Y&snp2=&DB=0

Your position on Yfull haplotree, You are most likely under E-Y160670 subclade 1650 years old, it match with Slavic/Germanic migration in Balkan during Roman/Byzantine Empire : (it should be worth to order your BAM file from FTDNA 100$ and upload it to Yfull 49$) :
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y97307/
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y160670/

Thanks for the information, but the one on Yfull who has E-Y97307 with Serbian flag is me

 

[Arbanoi]

You are obviously that J2b2-L283 Albanian troll Bruzmi obsessed with making E-V13 elsewhere not present, or if present trying to explain by Middle Age expansion.

So, you are not even worth of paying attention too. I don't even know how Riverman has nerves with you, or how he doesn't see the scam on you guys.

Who is the next you are gonna accuse of being a sock ?

 

[Arbanoi]

A question, becouse my subgroup is from the southern balkans, could it be possible that my vlach ancestors could have been Aromanian? Even if I dont have a Aromanian surname

Yes it is very possible, some Aromanians were absorbed into Serbs.

 

[MandM]

Yes it is very possible, some Aromanians were absorbed into Serbs.

I know that were we lived Aromanians setteld, even Romanians and Serbian Vlach, We know we are Vlach , but unsertian which group we hale from

 

[MandM]

I have found on DNA chron a person from Australia that has the same haplogroup as me, i have contacted coustom service and am waiting on a response if I can get in contact with this person

 

[Riverman]

I have found on DNA chron a person from Australia that has the same haplogroup as me, i have contacted coustom service and am waiting on a response if I can get in contact with this person

Do you know the TMRCA?

 

[MandM]

Do you know the TMRCA?

I can only see estimated age on the HG
1520ybp
That was a died end
I got this awnser
The man comes from publicly available genomic data deposited on NCBI. We do not have information on the individuals corresponding to the data. The data is made publicly available for research purposes and any personal identifying information is typically removed to protect the privacy of the individuals involved.

 

[MandM]

Do you know the TMRCA?

Found this if it helps

 

[Riverman]

So you have a common ancestor from around the time of the migration period.

 

[MandM]

Looks that way, and on Yfull it says TMRCA 1650 years.
I have one Aromanian from Romania who i have on Y111 on ftdna he is waiting for his results on Y700, will be interesting to see his HG

 

[MandM]

Talked to man from Romania have him top of my snp matches, his HP is E-Y160670 he belives that there is a possability that his ancestors were Aromanian from moscopole

 

[Riverman]

Looks that way, and on Yfull it says TMRCA 1650 years.
I have one Aromanian from Romania who i have on Y111 on ftdna he is waiting for his results on Y700, will be interesting to see his HG

Depends on his level, but if he is a 111 STR match, he should be pretty close to you, like genealogically (post 1600) close most likely.

 

[MandM]

Well its confirmd he has the same haplogroup as me

 

[MandM]

Somthing very interesting just happend, the guy whom i shared same HG with, we just made a new branch called E-FTB6334 i guess its a subgroup of E-FT186965, its quite a young HG, it was formed around 650 CE.