Genetic study The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2000-year archeogenomic time transec

I was a little bit disappointed that Etruscans were so northern shifted, I would've prefer for them to overlap with modern Central Italians.
 
How much do the samples from Venosa cline toward Balkans? Are those J2b2-L283 and E-L618(E-V13) samples from Iron Age or during Early Middle Age (i mean by origin since i already know the site is dated from Early Middle Ages)?
 
Pax Augusta said:
I don't know, but would it change much?
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Central Bronze Age Iberians are more distant.

Distance to:Iberia_Central_BA
0.03540096Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04456663Spanish_Soria
0.04744853Spanish_Castello
0.04832574Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04926872Spanish_Pirineu
0.04953086Spanish_Cantabria
0.05010359Spanish_Navarra
0.05170527Spanish_Cataluna
0.05194272Spanish_Aragon
0.05270706Spanish_Valencia
0.05271753Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05366533Spanish_Lleida
0.05487103Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05504031Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05600020Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05618942Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05631533Spanish_Murcia
0.05644196Spanish_Barcelones
0.05662828Spanish_Alacant
0.05666860Spanish_Girona
0.05746446Spanish_Penedes
0.05872817Spanish_Andalucia
0.05903924Spanish_Galicia
0.05926675Spanish_Baleares
0.05997714Spanish_Menorca
0.06120055Spanish_Mallorca
0.06160548Spanish_Eivissa
0.06189322Spanish_Extremadura
0.06204988Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.06235213Spanish_Asturias
0.07819659Spanish_Canarias


Southeast late antiquity:
Distance to:Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.03426314Spanish_Canarias
0.05156542Spanish_Extremadura
0.05417300Spanish_Andalucia
0.05520594Spanish_Murcia
0.05760208Spanish_Galicia
0.05860150Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05923320Spanish_Eivissa
0.06000128Spanish_Menorca
0.06004333Spanish_Alacant
0.06076481Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.06119925Spanish_Baleares
0.06434331Spanish_Valencia
0.06453906Spanish_Mallorca
0.06621766Spanish_La_Rioja
0.06664894Spanish_Aragon
0.06667907Spanish_Cataluna
0.06725208Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.06732537Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.06733790Spanish_Castello
0.06770015Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.06832720Spanish_Pirineu
0.06862459Spanish_Girona
0.06950303Spanish_Asturias
0.06957421Spanish_Lleida
0.06971369Spanish_Cantabria
0.07003173Spanish_Navarra
0.07077223Spanish_Penedes
0.07159312Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.07308558Spanish_Barcelones
0.07671424Spanish_Soria
0.08856158Spanish_Pais_Vasco


North East:
Distance to:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03489246Spanish_Penedes
0.03648907Spanish_Girona
0.03680458Spanish_Mallorca
0.03752408Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03811941Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03868611Spanish_Barcelones
0.03894327Spanish_Lleida
0.03940340Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04129588Spanish_Cataluna
0.04172464Spanish_Baleares
0.04221947Spanish_Castello
0.04294445Spanish_Pirineu
0.04373060Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04416706Spanish_Eivissa
0.04443097Spanish_Cantabria
0.04500264Spanish_Valencia
0.04539393Spanish_Alacant
0.04550393Spanish_Soria
0.04665357Spanish_Menorca
0.04698236Spanish_Aragon
0.04769954Spanish_Galicia
0.04840134Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05014040Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05017758Spanish_Murcia
0.05134583Spanish_Navarra
0.05166330Spanish_Andalucia
0.05167348Spanish_Extremadura
0.05418612Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.05725268Spanish_Asturias
0.05861128Spanish_La_Rioja
0.07458366Spanish_Canarias


While IA samples show a better score? Is there any explanation for this?
Distance to:Iberia_North_IA
0.02366850Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.03070570Spanish_Barcelones
0.03218504Spanish_Pirineu
0.03232748Spanish_Cataluna
0.03287438Spanish_Cantabria
0.03310288Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03376171Spanish_Lleida
0.03411298Spanish_Aragon
0.03422531Spanish_Castello
0.03438914Spanish_Valencia
0.03439541Spanish_Navarra
0.03507536Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03547255Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03686410Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03727676Spanish_Penedes
0.03735941Spanish_Girona
0.03788493Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03979812Spanish_Soria
0.04026030Spanish_Asturias
0.04113202Spanish_Galicia
0.04116788Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.04164108Spanish_Alacant
0.04208172Spanish_Mallorca
0.04225515Spanish_Menorca
0.04230012Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04243120Spanish_Baleares
0.04272271Spanish_Eivissa
0.04341488Spanish_Andalucia
0.04422624Spanish_Murcia
0.04946504Spanish_Extremadura
0.07055977Spanish_Canarias


Tuscans seems closer to Etruscans than most Iberians are to Late Antiquity Iberians.
Distance to:ITA_Etruscan
0.02141200Italian_Bergamo
0.02202841Italian_Lombardy
0.02547965Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03115347Italian_Piedmont
0.03258140Italian_Liguria
0.03709652Italian_Northeast
0.03761406Italian_Tuscany
0.03882689Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04609963Italian_Marche
0.04757807Italian_Umbria
0.05125158Italian_Lazio
0.05860888Italian_Abruzzo
0.05901490Italian_Molise
0.06395656Italian_Apulia
0.06698913Italian_Basilicata
0.07031507Italian_Campania
0.07527971Italian_Calabria


 
new samples: ETR001 (official) - ETR015 - ETR016 - VET006_9

Old and new ETR001 is the same sample, I think! (same mtDNA, … generations to MRCA = 1), but the files and the results are a bit different, … I named the new one ETR001b :)

Dodecad K12b
Code: 
ETR001b_Dod_K12b,6.83,1.35,2.07,0.53,31.60,14.59,0.48,0.92,8.87,0.00,32.75,0.00
ETR015_Dod_K12b,8.79,0.00,1.46,0.00,38.86,17.81,0.85,0.00,9.98,1.30,20.95,0.00
ETR016_Dod_K12b,4.72,0.00,3.51,0.00,29.85,11.84,0.90,1.90,14.59,1.16,31.53,0.00
VET006_9_Dod_K12b,0.00,0.56,6.58,0.06,42.10,17.36,0.00,0.78,8.99,0.00,21.90,1.67

Dodecad Globe 13
Code: 
ETR001b_Dod_Globe13,1.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.69,0.00,38.34,2.46,0.00,21.52,21.53,0.18,0.60
ETR015_Dod_Globe13,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.00,12.77,1.73,39.48,0.05,0.00,17.39,27.93,0.21,0.00
ETR016_Dod_Globe13,0.00,2.20,0.55,1.63,18.17,0.00,39.19,0.24,0.00,19.83,17.70,0.00,0.50
VET006_9_Dod_Globe13,0.70,0.00,2.33,0.00,14.79,0.49,46.86,0.00,0.00,7.93,25.32,0.00,1.57

Dodecad K7b
Code: 
ETR001_Dodecad_K7b,0.37,24.20,1.03,0.64,34.11,39.18,0.46
ETR015_Dodecad_K7b,1.12,18.93,0.00,0.02,31.58,47.12,1.24
ETR016_Dodecad_K7b,0.46,23.16,0.00,1.86,38.44,34.88,1.20
VET006_9_Dodecad_K7b,0.00,9.63,0.28,3.20,36.64,50.21,0.05
 
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Etruscan OO1b and 016 are Southern Italian like. Whaddya know?

Vet 006 is Bulgarian Early Bronze like yet is Etruscan/North African?

Here are mine:
Distance to:Angela
8.74685086ETR015_Dod_K12b
9.10978595VET006_9_Dod_K12b
12.60674026ETR001b_Dod_K12b
16.77230455ETR016_Dod_K12b


Btw, for goodness knows what reason, Eurogenes never included the coordinates for the Emilian sample(s) from that paper. I could get paranoid about it but I won't. :)
 
ihype02 said:
Central Bronze Age Iberians are more distant.

Distance to:Iberia_Central_BA
0.03540096Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04456663Spanish_Soria
0.04744853Spanish_Castello
0.04832574Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04926872Spanish_Pirineu
0.04953086Spanish_Cantabria
0.05010359Spanish_Navarra
0.05170527Spanish_Cataluna
0.05194272Spanish_Aragon
0.05270706Spanish_Valencia
0.05271753Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05366533Spanish_Lleida
0.05487103Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05504031Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05600020Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05618942Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05631533Spanish_Murcia
0.05644196Spanish_Barcelones
0.05662828Spanish_Alacant
0.05666860Spanish_Girona
0.05746446Spanish_Penedes
0.05872817Spanish_Andalucia
0.05903924Spanish_Galicia
0.05926675Spanish_Baleares
0.05997714Spanish_Menorca
0.06120055Spanish_Mallorca
0.06160548Spanish_Eivissa
0.06189322Spanish_Extremadura
0.06204988Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.06235213Spanish_Asturias
0.07819659Spanish_Canarias

Southeast late antiquity:
Distance to:Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.03426314Spanish_Canarias
0.05156542Spanish_Extremadura
0.05417300Spanish_Andalucia
0.05520594Spanish_Murcia
0.05760208Spanish_Galicia
0.05860150Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05923320Spanish_Eivissa
0.06000128Spanish_Menorca
0.06004333Spanish_Alacant
0.06076481Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.06119925Spanish_Baleares
0.06434331Spanish_Valencia
0.06453906Spanish_Mallorca
0.06621766Spanish_La_Rioja
0.06664894Spanish_Aragon
0.06667907Spanish_Cataluna
0.06725208Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.06732537Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.06733790Spanish_Castello
0.06770015Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.06832720Spanish_Pirineu
0.06862459Spanish_Girona
0.06950303Spanish_Asturias
0.06957421Spanish_Lleida
0.06971369Spanish_Cantabria
0.07003173Spanish_Navarra
0.07077223Spanish_Penedes
0.07159312Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.07308558Spanish_Barcelones
0.07671424Spanish_Soria
0.08856158Spanish_Pais_Vasco

North East:
Distance to:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03489246Spanish_Penedes
0.03648907Spanish_Girona
0.03680458Spanish_Mallorca
0.03752408Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03811941Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03868611Spanish_Barcelones
0.03894327Spanish_Lleida
0.03940340Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04129588Spanish_Cataluna
0.04172464Spanish_Baleares
0.04221947Spanish_Castello
0.04294445Spanish_Pirineu
0.04373060Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04416706Spanish_Eivissa
0.04443097Spanish_Cantabria
0.04500264Spanish_Valencia
0.04539393Spanish_Alacant
0.04550393Spanish_Soria
0.04665357Spanish_Menorca
0.04698236Spanish_Aragon
0.04769954Spanish_Galicia
0.04840134Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05014040Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05017758Spanish_Murcia
0.05134583Spanish_Navarra
0.05166330Spanish_Andalucia
0.05167348Spanish_Extremadura
0.05418612Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.05725268Spanish_Asturias
0.05861128Spanish_La_Rioja
0.07458366Spanish_Canarias

While IA samples show a better score? Is there any explanation for this?
Distance to:Iberia_North_IA
0.02366850Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.03070570Spanish_Barcelones
0.03218504Spanish_Pirineu
0.03232748Spanish_Cataluna
0.03287438Spanish_Cantabria
0.03310288Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03376171Spanish_Lleida
0.03411298Spanish_Aragon
0.03422531Spanish_Castello
0.03438914Spanish_Valencia
0.03439541Spanish_Navarra
0.03507536Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03547255Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03686410Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03727676Spanish_Penedes
0.03735941Spanish_Girona
0.03788493Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03979812Spanish_Soria
0.04026030Spanish_Asturias
0.04113202Spanish_Galicia
0.04116788Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.04164108Spanish_Alacant
0.04208172Spanish_Mallorca
0.04225515Spanish_Menorca
0.04230012Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04243120Spanish_Baleares
0.04272271Spanish_Eivissa
0.04341488Spanish_Andalucia
0.04422624Spanish_Murcia
0.04946504Spanish_Extremadura
0.07055977Spanish_Canarias

Tuscans seems closer to Etruscans than most Iberians are to Late Antiquity Iberians.
Distance to:ITA_Etruscan
0.02141200Italian_Bergamo
0.02202841Italian_Lombardy
0.02547965Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03115347Italian_Piedmont
0.03258140Italian_Liguria
0.03709652Italian_Northeast
0.03761406Italian_Tuscany
0.03882689Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04609963Italian_Marche
0.04757807Italian_Umbria
0.05125158Italian_Lazio
0.05860888Italian_Abruzzo
0.05901490Italian_Molise
0.06395656Italian_Apulia
0.06698913Italian_Basilicata
0.07031507Italian_Campania
0.07527971Italian_Calabria
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BA Iberians are definitely more distant to modern Iberians than Tuscans are to Etruscans.

Those are more the north, the distance remains >0.040 for Iberians expect for Basques. I think Portuguese and South Iberians have more than just 5% Moorish.
North:
Distance to:Iberia_North_BA
0.02881796Basque_Spanish
0.03380685Basque_French
0.03442805Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03610874French_South
0.03899058Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04142020Spanish_Castello
0.04203333Spanish_Pirineu
0.04241225Spanish_Cantabria
0.04301098Spanish_Soria
0.04316185Spanish_Navarra
0.04484300Spanish_Aragon
0.04547163Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04601188Spanish_Valencia
0.04608291Spanish_Cataluna
0.04708379Spanish_Lleida
0.04743267Spanish_Barcelones
0.04769257Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04833158Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04845135Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04941078Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05015675Spanish_Girona
0.05041150Spanish_Alacant
0.05055919Spanish_Penedes
0.05141349Spanish_Murcia
0.05239610Spanish_Andalucia


Centre:
Distance to:Iberia_Central_BA
0.03540096Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03569669Basque_Spanish
0.04379605French_South
0.04429326Basque_French
0.04456663Spanish_Soria
0.04744853Spanish_Castello
0.04832574Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04926872Spanish_Pirineu
0.04953086Spanish_Cantabria
0.05010359Spanish_Navarra
0.05170527Spanish_Cataluna
0.05194272Spanish_Aragon
0.05270706Spanish_Valencia
0.05271753Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05366533Spanish_Lleida
0.05487103Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05504031Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05600020Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05618942Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05631533Spanish_Murcia
0.05644196Spanish_Barcelones
0.05662828Spanish_Alacant
0.05666860Spanish_Girona
0.05746446Spanish_Penedes
0.05872817Spanish_Andalucia

 
Angela said:
Etruscan OO1b and 016 are Southern Italian like. Whaddya know?

Vet 006 is Bulgarian Early Bronze like yet is Etruscan/North African?

Here are mine:
Distance to:Angela
8.74685086ETR015_Dod_K12b
9.10978595VET006_9_Dod_K12b
12.60674026ETR001b_Dod_K12b
16.77230455ETR016_Dod_K12b

Btw, for goodness knows what reason, Eurogenes never included the coordinates for the Emilian sample(s) from that paper. I could get paranoid about it but I won't. :)
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We already knew that ETR001 was Imperial Roman,
… about VET006_9, originally they thought that they were two different people (VET006 and VET009). Later they found it was actually the same person, That could have caused some of the discrepancy. … then they merged the data.

… just in case, I’ll check it again :)
 
I have run the Northern African admixed Etruscans on K12b:
Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_372-204BCE:VET008
12.46900958French_Corsica
14.33687846Italian_Marche
14.81474603Morocco_Jews
14.89780185Italian_Campania
15.08426001Italian_Sicily
15.15132997Italian_Molise
15.34352306Italian_Abruzzo
15.57639239Italian_Umbria
15.60277539Italian_Lazio
15.66815560Italian_Calabria
15.75818200Italian_Romagna
15.85156775Italian_Jews
16.21886248Ashkenazi_Jews
16.46583432Italian_Basilicata
16.76616235Italian_Tuscany
16.95617587Sephardic_Jews
17.08128215Moldovan_Jewish
17.75637632Italian_Liguria
17.90379289Italian_Apulia
17.93879037Italian_Emilia
19.26844830Greek_Athens
19.60522124Greek_Central
19.72957678Greek_Lemnos
20.01986264Greek_Fournoi
20.03711806Sardinian

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_391-207BCE:TAQ007
8.10217255Morocco_Jews
9.73909133Italian_Jews
10.25617863Sephardic_Jews
10.50476083Italian_Calabria
10.98193061Italian_Sicily
11.21663943Italian_Campania
11.69157817Ashkenazi_Jews
12.21492939Italian_Molise
12.56464484Moldovan_Jewish
12.72147004Italian_Basilicata
12.82513158Italian_Abruzzo
14.63747588Greek_Icaria
14.77790865Italian_Marche
14.86933422Italian_Apulia
15.02820016Greek_Fournoi
15.69336803Greek_Kos
15.76443148Greek_Rhodes
15.80102845Italian_Lazio
16.19814496Greek_Crete
16.20385448Greek_Lemnos
16.21688318Greek_Izmir
16.29447452French_Corsica
16.52338646Italian_Umbria
17.15837405Greek_Foca
17.47611513Italian_Romagna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_396-216BCE:TAQ023
10.74826963French_Corsica
13.78408154Italian_Marche
14.43503377Italian_Romagna
14.60790539Italian_Umbria
14.85365612Italian_Lazio
14.99072713Italian_Tuscany
15.37810131Italian_Liguria
15.83065697Italian_Emilia
16.03320305Italian_Abruzzo
16.37668465Italian_Sicily
16.42673735Italian_Molise
16.51304333Italian_Campania
17.44032683Italian_Basilicata
17.56062926Italian_Lombardy
17.79111014Italian_Calabria
17.91026521Morocco_Jews
18.07639898Ashkenazi_Jews
18.16437447Spanish_Canarias
18.53897246Italian_Piedmont
18.56834672Italian_Apulia
18.66004555Italian_Jews
18.68589575Moldovan_Jewish
19.39491170Italian_Veneto
19.39744055Albanian
19.42870042Greek_Athens

 
ihype02 said:
BA Iberians are definitely more distant to modern Iberians than Tuscans are to Etruscans.

Those are more the north, the distance remains >0.040 for Iberians expect for Basques. I think Portuguese and South Iberians have more than just 5% Moorish.
North:
Distance to:Iberia_North_BA
0.02881796Basque_Spanish
0.03380685Basque_French
0.03442805Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03610874French_South
0.03899058Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04142020Spanish_Castello
0.04203333Spanish_Pirineu
0.04241225Spanish_Cantabria
0.04301098Spanish_Soria
0.04316185Spanish_Navarra
0.04484300Spanish_Aragon
0.04547163Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04601188Spanish_Valencia
0.04608291Spanish_Cataluna
0.04708379Spanish_Lleida
0.04743267Spanish_Barcelones
0.04769257Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04833158Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04845135Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04941078Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05015675Spanish_Girona
0.05041150Spanish_Alacant
0.05055919Spanish_Penedes
0.05141349Spanish_Murcia
0.05239610Spanish_Andalucia

Centre:
Distance to:Iberia_Central_BA
0.03540096Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03569669Basque_Spanish
0.04379605French_South
0.04429326Basque_French
0.04456663Spanish_Soria
0.04744853Spanish_Castello
0.04832574Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04926872Spanish_Pirineu
0.04953086Spanish_Cantabria
0.05010359Spanish_Navarra
0.05170527Spanish_Cataluna
0.05194272Spanish_Aragon
0.05270706Spanish_Valencia
0.05271753Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05366533Spanish_Lleida
0.05487103Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05504031Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05600020Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05618942Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05631533Spanish_Murcia
0.05644196Spanish_Barcelones
0.05662828Spanish_Alacant
0.05666860Spanish_Girona
0.05746446Spanish_Penedes
0.05872817Spanish_Andalucia
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The shift in the Iron Age might be because the wave from the East would have hit the western Mediterranean and inland by then. That's one possibility.
 
Angela said:
The shift in the Iron Age might be because the wave from the East would have hit the western Mediterranean and inland by then. That's one possibility.
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The Iberian samples are extremely heterogenous. For example the 6th century Iberian samples from Northern Iberia:
6th century:
Distance to:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.01718766French_Alsace
0.01773094Swiss_German
0.01814944French_Nord
0.01882790French_Pas-de-Calais
0.01964481Belgian
0.02002568French_Paris
0.02337193French_Occitanie
0.02379391Swiss_French
0.02409443French_Auvergne
0.02765284French_Provence
0.02793365Austrian
0.02793484French_Seine-Maritime
0.02870932Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02936703German
0.03027986Afrikaner
0.03113842French_Brittany
0.03339427Italian_Northeast
0.03489246Spanish_Penedes
0.03648907Spanish_Girona
0.03670559Welsh
0.03680458Spanish_Mallorca
0.03752408Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03811941Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03866909English
0.03868611Spanish_Barcelones


6-8th century:
Distance to:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.02019752Spanish_Barcelones
0.02086428French_Occitanie
0.02121777French_Auvergne
0.02364490Spanish_Girona
0.02366315Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02377941Spanish_Cataluna
0.02381820Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02406205Spanish_Penedes
0.02414601Spanish_Lleida
0.02421820Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02433984Spanish_Pirineu
0.02434515Spanish_Mallorca
0.02490406Spanish_Cantabria
0.02492572Spanish_Valencia
0.02570811Spanish_Aragon
0.02584889Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02610169Spanish_Castello
0.02631785Spanish_Eivissa
0.02643941Spanish_Alacant
0.02667005Spanish_Galicia
0.02713652Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02728298Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02769522French_Provence
0.02788424French_South
0.02811703Spanish_Baleares

 
I get nice distances for ETR016 and 001b (Thanks to Salento for Coordinates; See post # 483).

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
4.11198249ETR016_Dod_K12b
4.94711027ETR001b_Dod_K12b
14.74411747ETR015_Dod_K12b
17.65503894VET006_9_Dod_K12b

 
imho … the 4 Afr samples are not very Afr, … I would’ve expected much stronger genetic connections to Afr.
 
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I tested VET006_9:

I used .bam and fastq file, ... to double check I converted the fastq file with 2 different methods, ... I then ran the raw-data to get Dodecad, Eurogenes and MDLP coordinates:

Dodecad K12b:

Distance to:VET006_9_Bam_Dod_K12b
7.84763022French_Corsica
10.30309662Italian_Liguria
11.30236701Italian_Emilia
11.34700401Italian_Lombardy
11.37617247Italian_Tuscany
11.89516288Spanish_Canarias
12.62213928Italian_Romagna

Distance to:VET006_9_Bwa-Mem_Dod_K12b
8.03679040French_Corsica
10.30712860Italian_Liguria
11.31061448Italian_Lombardy
11.33780402Italian_Emilia
11.45406478Italian_Tuscany
11.59771529Spanish_Canarias
12.58528506Italian_Piedmont

Distance to:VET006_9_Bowtie2_Dod_K12b
8.27201910French_Corsica
10.60635658Italian_Liguria
11.52269500Italian_Lombardy
11.61939327Italian_Emilia
11.66155650Spanish_Canarias
11.76769731Italian_Tuscany
12.82580602Italian_Piedmont


Eurogenes K13:

Distance to:VET006_9_Bam_EurogenesK13
9.65170451French_Corsica
12.88662097Italian_Lombardy
13.90310757Italian_Liguria
14.06882369Italian_Tuscan
14.24297722Italian_Emilia
15.72205457Italian_Piedmont
15.78650690Italian_Lazio

Distance to:VET006_9_Bwa-Mem_EurogenesK13
9.24791868French_Corsica
11.95561793Italian_Lombardy
13.06197535Italian_Liguria
13.43435894Italian_Emilia
13.48066022Italian_Tuscan
14.61191295Italian_Piedmont
14.81957827Spanish_Andalucia

Distance to:VET006_9_Bowtie2_EurogenesK13
9.58022964French_Corsica
12.17653481Italian_Lombardy
13.32041291Italian_Liguria
13.72888196Italian_Emilia
13.81777840Italian_Tuscan
14.54111069Spanish_Andalucia
14.85629833Italian_Piedmont


MDLP K16:

Distance to:VET006_9_Bam_MDLP_K16
8.95055306Corsican
9.56031380Spanish_Baleares_IBS
9.60608141Italian_Bergamo
10.11955039Spain
10.25652475Spanish_Andalucia_IBS
10.30924343Portuguese
10.86627351Spanish_Extremadura_IBS

Distance to:VET006_9_Bwa-Mem_MDLP_K16
8.51846230Corsican
9.19027747Italian_Bergamo
9.25315081Spanish_Baleares_IBS
10.04273369Spain
10.15560436Portuguese
10.18211668Spanish_Andalucia_IBS
10.75089299Spanish_Extremadura_IBS

Distance to:VET006_9_Bowtie2_MDLP_K16
8.94654682Corsican
9.56834886Spanish_Baleares_IBS
9.64361447Italian_Bergamo
10.31972868Spanish_Andalucia_IBS
10.32929814Spain
10.52646189Portuguese
10.95994526Spanish_Extremadura_IBS


... TEST only Cooordinates !!!

Code: 
VET006_9_Bam_Dod_K12b,0.00,0.56,6.58,0.06,42.10,17.36,0.00,0.78,8.99,0.00,21.90,1.67
VET006_9_Bwa-Mem_Dod_K12b,0.00,0.53,6.89,0.04,42.03,17.57,0.00,0.65,8.76,0.00,21.75,1.77
VET006_9_Bowtie2_Dod_K12b,0.00,0.65,6.98,0.06,42.38,17.43,0.00,0.32,8.54,0.00,21.64,2.00

VET006_9_Bam_EurogenesK13,28.66,6.31,33.47,0.00,24.44,3.07,0.00,0.63,0.20,0.00,0.00,3.18,0.04
VET006_9_Bwa-Mem_EurogenesK13,28.97,6.68,33.20,0.47,22.96,3.66,0.00,0.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.36,0.00
VET006_9_Bowtie2_EurogenesK13,29.45,6.08,33.42,0.53,22.89,3.50,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.21,0.10

VET006_9_Bam_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.09,11.21,0.00,0.00,0.00,23.19,2.32,12.97,3.77,38.94,6.70,0.00,0.00,0.03,0.77
VET006_9_Bwa-Mem_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.14,11.76,0.00,0.00,0.00,23.40,2.32,12.58,3.97,38.67,6.42,0.00,0.00,0.11,0.62
VET006_9_Bowtie2_MDLP_K16,0.00,0.00,11.57,0.00,0.00,0.00,23.23,2.20,12.34,4.26,39.08,6.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.92
 
… comparing VET006_9 with some recognizable samples,
.… wow … surprising huge R850 distance, … weird.:)

Distance to:VET006_9_Dod_K12b
5.06163017i8204:Olalde_2019
8.68178553taq023:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
9.12795706Etruscan_o_IA:R475:Antonio_2019
9.19110440SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I7457:Olalde_2019
12.04271149vet008:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
14.37043145Protovillanovan_IA:R1:Antonio_2019
18.15191450taq007:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
18.47285576Prenestini_o_IA:R437:Antonio_2019
30.12084660Latini_o:R850:Antonio_2019
 
VET_006_9 MTA upload, In a modern sense, it’s not close to anyone …

tRWaZHV.jpg


Modern PCA:
pIn9VHe.jpg


Ancient PCA:
Wu3C6bY.jpg
 
Today, I tried to recreate the closest VET006_9 raw-data that the Authors of the Paper worked with, .. paper says: ... "Sequences were subsequently mapped against the human reference genome hg19 using BWA" ... here we go, some VET006_9 BWA based coordinates:

Code: 
VET006_9_BWA_Dod_K12b,0,0.61,6.74,0.10,41.91,17.28,0,0.75,8.95,0,21.95,1.70

VET006_9_BWA_Dod_Globe13,0.68,0,2.39,0,14.82,0.51,46.67,0,0,8.06,25.30,0,1.57

VET006_9_BWA_Dod_K7b,0,9.76,0.30,3.25,36.61,50.04,0.05

VET006_9_BWA_Eurogenes_K13,28.71,6.14,33.27,0.36,24.23,3.20,0,0.60,0.25,0,0,3.18,0.05

VET006_9_BWA_MDLP_K16,0,0.12,11.29,0,0,0,23.37,2.22,12.98,3.87,38.65,6.69,0,0.02,0.01,0.75

VET006_9_BWA_Eurogenes_K36,0,1.36,0,3.82,0,0.85,0,0,7.03,0,0,5.13,0,0,4.66,19.21,0,24.40,0,8.68,5.58,0,0,5.84,0.18,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,13.27
Distance to:VET006_9_BWA_Dod_K12b
7.85529121French_Corsica
10.33932783Italian_Liguria
11.33404606Italian_Emilia
11.38592113Italian_Tuscany
11.43222638Italian_Lombardy
11.90622526Spanish_Canarias
12.57897055Italian_Romagna
12.72099053Italian_Piedmont
13.28344458Portuguese
13.83971098Italian_Umbria


DQkYnK5.gif


W6BNskB.gif
 
… end of Test … all the various methods are acceptable,
… ENA VET006_9 .Bam results are also close to the fastq BWA to Bam conversion based results.
(a BWA run was used to process the Etruscan samples).
 
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