Genetic study The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2000-year archeogenomic time transec

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_977-1022CE:ETR014
3.41493777C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
3.62932501C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
4.96028225C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
5.02078679C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
5.47221162C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
5.49464285C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
5.49846342C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
5.95859883C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.08801281C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.27535656C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro
6.35762534C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
6.38482576C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.55743090C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
6.68754813C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
6.87156460C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina
6.94531497C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
7.06148001C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropolis
7.21888496C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.30319108C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
7.63387189C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.15492489C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
8.21681812C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
8.38390720C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
8.41160508C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausole_di_Augusto
8.49733488C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)C899-1016CE:ETR013
3.06292344C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.00233682C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
4.02973945C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
4.45067411C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.64092663C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
4.67973290C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
5.08297157C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
5.15021359C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
5.37962824C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
5.42052580C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.57412773C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
6.14438768C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
6.24786363C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
6.39851545C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
6.59063730C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
6.63914904C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.40256712C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
7.51647524C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
7.57333480C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.59707839C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
7.75399252C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.00281825C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
8.33060622C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropolis
8.45273920C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
8.54812845C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR012
17.43717580C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
17.56353609C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
18.19948626C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
18.57472476C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
18.74738115C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
18.99448078C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
19.40185816C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
19.89436101C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
20.02830996C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
20.05961366C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
20.10323855C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
20.22736760C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
20.31195707C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
20.43264055C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
20.55721285C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
20.83813331C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
21.23649689C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
21.32446013C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
21.41864608C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
21.43779839C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
21.49612756C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
21.53136085C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
21.55087701C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
21.69949308C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
21.77483410C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR010
1.86772589C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
2.58234390C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
2.78931891C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
3.65080813C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
4.68054484C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.37395571C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.90803156C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.05192172C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
7.09837305C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
7.74508877C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.35780474C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
8.55874991C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
8.62706787C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
8.65922629C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.73682437C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
9.14752972C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
9.26889422C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.92708920C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
9.99738466C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.46967526C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
10.51510342C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
10.51536019C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
10.77787549C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
10.88110748C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
11.27527827C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007
6.17036466C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
7.09737275C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
7.58063322C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
8.24906661C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
8.36748469C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.53097298C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
8.57116678C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.84101239C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
8.88432327C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
8.95967075C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.96033482C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
9.88334458C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
9.88984833C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
10.70062148C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
11.23380167C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
11.24793314C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
11.45085150C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
11.86442582C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
11.95200402C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.08648419C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
12.19141091C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
12.37042441C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
12.61146304C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
12.66735174C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
12.84676613C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_772-888CE:ETR006
5.64591002C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
6.40596597C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.50099223C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.59495262C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
7.27732781C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
7.31816917C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.52080879C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
10.09546928C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
10.42871996C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
10.93665854C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
11.01331921C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
11.16326565C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
11.32856566C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
11.65896651C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
11.91841432C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
12.25856843C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.36495046C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
12.73212472C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
13.21816175C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
13.58769664C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
13.75535169C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
13.76951706C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
13.92670815C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
13.96723666C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
14.05261897C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
 
Another G2a associated with North Balkans ( 'illyrians" ) and Italians

all other coloured dots are also associated with a Balkan-Italian mix

ignore the top left one as that is Villabruna sample from Feltre Veneto

 
Jovialis said:
@Pax, take a look at the pca values in the way I have reorganized it:

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Code: 
S.Italian:Abruzzo,7.59,0.03,3.23,0.04,29.12,16.1,0,0.08,10.91,0.32,32.6,0
N.Italian:Aosta_Valley,5.82,0.06,1.62,0.14,40.65,29.99,0.25,0.05,4.3,0.03,16.98,0.1
S.Italian:Apulia,7.38,0.32,2.81,0.34,26.2,17.19,0.27,0.27,11.31,0.41,33.36,0.15
S.Italian:Calabria,7,0.13,4.18,0.08,27,11.44,0.26,0.6,13.52,0.22,35.45,0.1
S.Italian:Campania,7.07,0.09,2.82,0.09,28.91,13.73,0.1,0.33,12.32,0.02,34.34,0.1
N.Italian:Emilia,6.13,0,1.15,0.18,37.61,22.76,0.14,0.11,7.4,0.25,24.22,0.06
N.Italian:Friuli_VG,5.44,0.28,1.17,0.01,34.92,29.32,0.08,0,7.03,0,21.72,0.02
Italian_Jews,5.91,0.27,5.61,0.28,26.04,8.53,0.36,1.02,16.51,0.14,35.34,0
C.Italian:Lazio,6.73,0,2.67,0.05,31.7,19.82,0.26,0.07,9.79,0.17,28.75,0
N.Italian:Liguria,5.1,0.05,2.01,0.09,37.89,23.23,0.25,0.05,7.89,0.05,23.39,0
N.Italian:Lombardy,4.75,0.12,1.12,0.04,39.63,25.08,0.17,0.01,6.41,0.03,22.62,0.03
C.Italian:Marche,6.42,0.08,2.38,0.05,32.91,18.72,0.29,0.27,9.80,0,29.042,0.03
N.Italian:Piedmont,5.92,0.13,1.73,0.09,37.82,26.02,0.04,0.04,6.73,0.02,21.37,0.1
N.Italian:Romagna,6.08,0,1.87,0.13,34.66,20.98,0.1,0,8.99,0,27.19,0
Sicily,7.31,0.48,4.59,0.10,27.22,13.45,0.25,0.65,12.1,0.05,33.16,0.64
N.Italian:Trentino,4.79,0.22,0.73,0.04,38.71,29.79,0,0,5.47,0.02,20.22,0
Tuscany,6.12,0.05,1.21,0.14,36.89,21.81,0.16,0.06,8.21,0,25.36,0
N.Italian:Veneto,5.44,0.04,1.43,0.18,36.93,27.16,0.06,0,5.73,0.15,22.83,0.0
Spanish:Andalusia,5.70,0.22,4.38,0.16,47.02,24.67,0.40,0.17,4.99,0.10,11.79,0.39
Spanish:Aragon,5.86,0.08,3.39,0,48.45,25.57,0.34,0.17,3.80,0.08,12.21,0.15
Spanish:Asturias,6.23,0.04,5.04,0.39,48.59,23.26,0.34,0.66,4.45,0.00,10.52,0.50
Spanish:Baleares,6.00,0.10,2.70,0.40,43.77,27.09,0.24,0.10,4.74,0.22,15.33,0.33
Spanish_Basque,6.47,0.14,1.35,0.21,59.28,25.18,0.20,0.04,1.80,0.16,5.12,0.04
Spanish:Canarias,4.50,0.25,7.93,0.18,39.36,23.46,0.22,1.50,6.70,0.15,13.62,2.12
Spanish:Cantabria,5.07,0.39,3.00,0.04,48.31,27.20,0,0.53,3.31,0.20,11.75,0.22
Spanish:Castilla-Leon,5.43,0,4.31,0.20,45.13,25.39,0.22,0.24,5.29,0.13,13.30,0.35
Spanish:Catalonia,5.43,0.09,2.60,0.10,46.39,27.16,0.46,0.26,4.23,0.09,12.99,0.18
Spanish:Galicia,5.16,0.29,5.08,0.51,45.34,26.31,0.73,0.54,4.38,0,11.30,0.39
Spanish:La_Rioja,5.26,0.10,2.62,0,51.23,26.02,0.46,0.11,3.42,0.10,10.5,0.18
Spanish:Valencia,5.43,0.14,3.66,0.16,46.01,25.63,0.24,0.19,4.93,0.18,13.21,0.23
Swiss_Italian,3.9175,0.0825,1.1025,0,39.8525,28.55,0.185,0.0625,5.7975,0,20.45,0
Etruscan_IA_(n=23),1.39826087,0.080434783,1.73173913,0.413913043,46.36391304,24.45956522,0.140434783,0.125217391,5.251304348,0.242608696,19.38826087,0.405217391
Latins_(n=4),3.10,0.41,1.38,0.20,47.83,24.48,0.40,0.04,2.68,0.00,19.26,0.25
Minoan_Greece_(n=10),1.24,0.05,2.80,0.09,40.35,0.07,0.00,0.00,13.79,0.29,41.27,0.04
Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4),2.09,0.31,2.85,0.36,38.17,7.57,0.13,0.25,9.98,0.42,37.10,0.80
R437:Antonio_2019,5.89,0,2.61,0,32.88,11.52,0,0,11.42,0.47,34.68,0.53
R850:Antonio_2019,7.3,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0,0.43,14.77,0,40.1,0
Protovillanovan_IA:R1:Antonio_2019,4.87,1.72,1.2,0,34.92,26.41,0,0,5.74,0,24.51,0.64
Villanovan_IA:R1015:Antonio_2019,1.64,0.26,2.62,0.01,48.21,21.4,0,0,5.06,0,20.64,0.16
East_Med_Imp.:Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46),8.39,0.14,3.33,0.21,24.69,8.66,0.26,0.54,14.86,0.14,38.36,0.43
Tuscany_Imp.:Imperial-age_Tuscany_(n=4),5.52,0.55,4.06,0.49,31.41,12.42,0.53,0.44,12.56,0.01,31.84,0.19
Marche_Imp.:Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2),8.03,0.24,2.22,0.79,30.54,15.60,0.00,0.00,10.52,0.00,32.08,0.00
Latium_LA:_(n=24),6.54,0.21,3.14,0.20,32.52,17.92,0.30,0.46,10.05,0.10,28.33,0.25
Latium_EMA:Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5),4.21,0.19,2.29,0.19,34.59,19.45,0.61,0.43,9.88,0.18,27.42,0.55
Latium_MA:Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16),6.43,0.27,1.77,0.21,33.12,24.00,0.33,0.38,8.11,0.25,24.71,0.42
Piedmont_LA:6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7),7.98,0.21,2.80,0.84,29.83,14.91,0.61,0.47,9.99,2.32,29.77,0.27
Piedmont_LA_(Italians_&_Lombards):6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24),7.80,0.47,1.40,0.44,33.46,32.13,0.37,0.52,4.87,0.75,17.44,0.35
Tuscany_MA:Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10),5.72,0.06,2.04,0.37,32.59,18.68,0.31,0.20,9.94,0.14,29.46,0.50
Basilicata_MA:Medieval_Basilicata_(n=10),7.02,0.71,4.29,0.40,29.74,15.35,0.31,0.48,11.15,1.22,28.76,0.56
Foggia_MA:Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5),5.89,0.56,3.82,0.49,27.97,19.28,0.19,0.47,10.48,0.34,29.06,1.44
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Athens,5.40,0.38,1.46,0.27,26.85,20.60,0.16,0.13,10.50,0.34,33.64,0.25
Greek_Cappadocia,11.66,0.41,0.6,0,18.85,6.27,0.13,0,14.23,0.1,47.73,0.02
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Central,6.57,0.30,1.39,0.15,26.97,20.86,0.01,0.23,10.20,0.24,33.07,0.01
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Crete,8.29,0.25,2.44,0.02,22.84,13.54,0.36,0.30,13.40,0.07,38.34,0.12
Greek_Cypriot,8.86,0.14,3.25,0.13,20.88,3.81,0.33,0.37,18.23,0.26,43.72,0
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Foca,6.56,0.19,1.76,0.18,25.37,18.93,0.21,0.02,10.90,0.32,35.62,0
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Fournoi,7.48,0,3.19,0,23.67,13.76,0.26,0,13.04,0.99,37.59,0 
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Icaria,5.33,0.76,1.77,0.25,25.46,10.78,0.77,0,13.57,0.11,41.15,0.04
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Izmir,7.35,0.18,2.22,0.08,24.16,15.48,0.15,0.10,12.00,0.04,38.21,0
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Kos,8.51,0.10,2.81,0.29,23.06,10.34,0.16,0.07,14.40,0.22,39.98,0.06
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Lemnos,8.61,0.03,2.25,0,24.94,17.12,0.93,0.09,11.15,0.91,34.30,0
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Macedonia,5.32,0.31,0.60,0.15,28.27,29.61,0.20,0.00,7.24,0.21,28.12,0.00
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Peloponnese,6.05,0.17,1.59,0.11,26.09,22.67,1.02,0.06,10.20,0.23,31.76,0
Greek_Pontus,14.93,0.01,0.41,0.06,12.38,4.19,0.13,0.02,12.78,0.1,54.94,0
Aegean_Is.:Greek_Rhodes,8.41,0.16,2.72,0.36,23.32,9.44,0.16,0.12,14.41,0.1,40.77,0
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Thessaloniki,5.04,0.36,1.51,0.19,26.71,25.24,0.48,0.05,8.95,0.21,31.24,0.03
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Thessaly,5.71,0.39,1.56,0.05,27.83,25.09,0.47,0,8.96,0.13,29.67,0.01
Mainland_Greece:Greek_Thrace,5.98,0.37,1.30,0.04,27.71,24.67,0.29,0,9.26,0.14,30.21,0.01
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thank you

check mine against these

Distance to:Torziok12b
2.57839097N.Italian:Friuli_VG
2.91981164N.Italian:Veneto
3.15326815N.Italian:piedmont
4.32063653N.Italian:Trentino
4.94308608Protovillanovan_IA:R1:Antonio_2019
5.21059138Swiss_Italian
5.62000890N.Italian:Lombardy
6.19887086Piedmont_LA_(Italians_&_Lombards):6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
6.32676853N.Italian:Liguria
6.46840011Latium_MA:Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
6.64110684N.Italian:Emilia
6.95670180N.Italian:Aosta_Valley
8.00820205Tuscany
9.92698343N.Italian:Romagna
10.04251960Spanish:Baleares
10.76021840Mainland_Greece:Greek_Macedonia
11.79564750Latium_EMA:Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
11.87576103Spanish:Canarias
12.55335413Mainland_Greece:Greek_Thessaly
12.60885007C.Italian:Lazio
12.64221392Etruscan_IA_(n=23)
12.79636276Spanish:Castilla-Leon
13.15324295Mainland_Greece:Greek_Thrace
13.19889783C.Italian:Marche
13.36740439Spanish:Valencia


Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 0.8026% / 0.80257708 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.1N.Italian
32.0Piedmont_LA_(Italians_&_Lombards)
12.9Latium_MA
 
Jovialis said:
Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_977-1022CE:ETR014
3.41493777C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
3.62932501C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
4.96028225C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
5.02078679C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
5.47221162C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
5.49464285C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
5.49846342C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
5.95859883C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.08801281C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.27535656C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro
6.35762534C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
6.38482576C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.55743090C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
6.68754813C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese
6.87156460C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina
6.94531497C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
7.06148001C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropolis
7.21888496C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.30319108C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
7.63387189C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.15492489C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
8.21681812C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
8.38390720C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
8.41160508C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausole_di_Augusto
8.49733488C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)C899-1016CE:ETR013
3.06292344C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.00233682C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
4.02973945C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
4.45067411C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.64092663C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
4.67973290C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
5.08297157C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
5.15021359C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
5.37962824C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
5.42052580C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.57412773C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
6.14438768C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
6.24786363C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
6.39851545C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
6.59063730C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
6.63914904C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.40256712C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
7.51647524C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
7.57333480C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.59707839C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
7.75399252C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.00281825C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
8.33060622C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropolis
8.45273920C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
8.54812845C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR012
17.43717580C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
17.56353609C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima
18.19948626C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
18.57472476C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
18.74738115C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
18.99448078C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
19.40185816C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
19.89436101C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
20.02830996C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
20.05961366C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
20.10323855C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
20.22736760C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
20.31195707C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
20.43264055C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
20.55721285C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
20.83813331C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
21.23649689C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
21.32446013C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
21.41864608C7_Iron_Age_European:R435_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Colombella
21.43779839C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
21.49612756C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
21.53136085C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
21.55087701C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
21.69949308C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
21.77483410C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR010
1.86772589C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
2.58234390C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
2.78931891C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
3.65080813C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
4.68054484C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.37395571C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.90803156C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.05192172C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
7.09837305C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
7.74508877C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.35780474C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
8.55874991C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
8.62706787C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
8.65922629C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.73682437C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
9.14752972C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
9.26889422C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.92708920C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
9.99738466C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
10.46967526C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
10.51510342C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
10.51536019C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
10.77787549C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
10.88110748C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
11.27527827C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007
6.17036466C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
7.09737275C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsicuro
7.58063322C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
8.24906661C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
8.36748469C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.53097298C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
8.57116678C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.84101239C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
8.88432327C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
8.95967075C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.96033482C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
9.88334458C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
9.88984833C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
10.70062148C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
11.23380167C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
11.24793314C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
11.45085150C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
11.86442582C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
11.95200402C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.08648419C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
12.19141091C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
12.37042441C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
12.61146304C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
12.66735174C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
12.84676613C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_772-888CE:ETR006
5.64591002C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
6.40596597C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.50099223C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.59495262C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
7.27732781C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
7.31816917C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.52080879C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
10.09546928C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
10.42871996C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
10.93665854C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
11.01331921C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
11.16326565C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
11.32856566C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
11.65896651C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
11.91841432C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
12.25856843C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
12.36495046C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
12.73212472C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
13.21816175C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
13.58769664C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
13.75535169C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
13.76951706C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
13.92670815C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
13.96723666C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
14.05261897C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
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These medieval samples from Tuscany would not have been considered "Eastern Mediterranean" in the Antonio et al. 2019 paper. Rather, they would have been put in the C6 cluster "Mediterranean".

This is the same ancestry as R437.

Antonio et al. 2019 says there was a demographic shift away from the eastern Mediterranean. The resurgence was based on C7, but predominately C6, which was found in IA. Ergo, their idea of local-population resurgence was the increase of these ancestries, and the disappearance and reduction of the other.

So what gives here?

Frankly, I am not sure of this paper, or the modeling they used. But it is like they are speaking a different language of what I am familiar with on this subject.
 
Angela said:
Some Avars were re-settled in Italy, and they were certainly present in the Balkans. I had a long discussion about this a couple of years ago because I sometimes used to get 1-2% East Asian, and so do people in my area and in Emilia Romagna. That's the closest I could get to an explanation.

There were also Sarmatians and Scythians in the Balkans.

Fwiw, on the K12b calculator I often get matches to admixed Scythians.
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Yes, Such peoples were my initial thought as well.

Avars, Alans, Huns, Mongols.

But then I immediately rejected such hypothesis since we are talking about 700-200BC. Rather this looks more like something Maykop, Yamnaya, Sintashta, Central Asian Steppe BA, Sarmatian related(1st image). Also based on the results, whatever population this was it would have increased Iran_Neo and CHG in the region(2nd image, connected to an unanswered question in this paper we(me and Anglea) discussed earlier).

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I personally have no clue. But there might be something interesting in such analyses.
It is obvious this affected the Balkans and based on the samples from this paper, also IA Italian peninsula.
What it could have been? Not sure.
 
Samples from this paper vs samples from the Antonio et al. 2019 paper:

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Volterra(Pisa_Tuscany)_200-60BCE:VOL001
4.17557182C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VEU001
4.42699672C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to::Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-413BCE:VET011
8.20109139C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_788-545BCE:VET010
3.41839143C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_372-204BCE:VET008
8.22776397C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_806-599BCE:VET007
5.72667443C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_360-200BCE:VET005
5.73986934C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_800-590BCE:VET003_4
1.93147612C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VET002
4.34699896C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-406BCE:VET001
4.58984749C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN022
18.20923667C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN021
12.54690799C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_Necropolis

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN018
10.97386441C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN017
6.96813461C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN016
4.89809147C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN015
3.26300475C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN014
12.49889595C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN013
4.15972355C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN012
7.25492936C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN010
16.15411712C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN009
8.22482219C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN008
9.24110924C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN006
4.59550868C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN005
2.63738507C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_VEN002:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN002
38.62212449C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN001
4.15101192C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_UDC_P:Chiostraccio(Siena_Tuscany)_174-53BCE:UDC_P
7.53551591C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ024
1.63187009C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_396-216BCE:TAQ023
4.91532298C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_1018-1151CE:TAQ022
5.02372372C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_262-424CE:TAQ021
3.65334094C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020
4.22571887C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_358-98BCE:TAQ019
3.19007837C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ018
3.22772366C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ017
3.92517516C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ016
3.79457508C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ015
2.14424812C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ013
3.21407841C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ012
7.75460508C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_895-1016CE:TAQ011
2.43840112C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ010
2.88548090C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_899-1021CE:TAQ009
2.77380605C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ008
5.01349180C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_391-207BCE:TAQ007
7.04589242C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ006
5.79330648C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ005
6.18588716C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ004
3.51907658C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_729-942CE:TAQ003
2.66726452C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_103BCE-54CE:TAQ002
2.71341114C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ001
4.61831138C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:poggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_772-436BCE:pRZ002
5.50763107C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:poggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_794-543BCE:pRZ001
2.43057606C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:poggioPelliccia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_772-960CE:pOP001
3.37237305C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_804-557BCE:MAS004
6.43401896C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_400-530CE:MAS003
7.72047278C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_240-380CE:MAS002
2.96464163C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_MAS001:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_350-100BCE:MAS001
10.57212845C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:MaglianoinToscana(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:MAG001
3.49005731C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_977-1022CE:ETR014
3.41493777C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)C899-1016CE:ETR013
3.06292344C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR012
17.43717580C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR010
1.86772589C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007
6.17036466C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_772-888CE:ETR006
5.64591002C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_805-774BCE:ETR005
4.37476857C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to::Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR004
12.27070088C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_997-1149CE:ETR003
3.75043997C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN013
4.22577803C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima

Distance to::Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN012
10.04464036C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_380-204BCE:CSN010
6.08673147C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN009
5.65394553C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN008
4.70089353C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN007
5.79393649C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_533-392BCE:CSN006
4.42379927C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN005
5.78621638C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN004
5.90316864C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_380-204BCE:CSN003
5.06993097C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu_related:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN002
10.63977443C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN001
1.96921304C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_770-540BCE:CAM003
3.97761235C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_770-520BCE:CAM002
5.19538257C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_780-540BCE:CAM001
3.06572993C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
 
Jovialis said:
Samples from this paper vs samples from the Antonio et al. 2019 paper:

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Volterra(Pisa_Tuscany)_200-60BCE:VOL001
4.17557182C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VEU001
4.42699672C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to::Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-413BCE:VET011
8.20109139C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_788-545BCE:VET010
3.41839143C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_372-204BCE:VET008
8.22776397C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_806-599BCE:VET007
5.72667443C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_360-200BCE:VET005
5.73986934C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_800-590BCE:VET003_4
1.93147612C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VET002
4.34699896C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-406BCE:VET001
4.58984749C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN022
18.20923667C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN021
12.54690799C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_Necropolis

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN018
10.97386441C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN017
6.96813461C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN016
4.89809147C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN015
3.26300475C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN014
12.49889595C4_Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN013
4.15972355C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN012
7.25492936C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN010
16.15411712C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN009
8.22482219C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN008
9.24110924C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN006
4.59550868C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN005
2.63738507C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa_VEN002:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN002
38.62212449C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN001
4.15101192C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_UDC_P:Chiostraccio(Siena_Tuscany)_174-53BCE:UDC_P
7.53551591C7_Imperial_European:R37_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ024
1.63187009C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_396-216BCE:TAQ023
4.91532298C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_1018-1151CE:TAQ022
5.02372372C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_262-424CE:TAQ021
3.65334094C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020
4.22571887C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_358-98BCE:TAQ019
3.19007837C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ018
3.22772366C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ017
3.92517516C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ016
3.79457508C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ015
2.14424812C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ013
3.21407841C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ012
7.75460508C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_895-1016CE:TAQ011
2.43840112C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ010
2.88548090C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_899-1021CE:TAQ009
2.77380605C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ008
5.01349180C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_391-207BCE:TAQ007
7.04589242C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ006
5.79330648C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ005
6.18588716C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ004
3.51907658C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_729-942CE:TAQ003
2.66726452C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_103BCE-54CE:TAQ002
2.71341114C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ001
4.61831138C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:poggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_772-436BCE:pRZ002
5.50763107C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:poggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_794-543BCE:pRZ001
2.43057606C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:poggioPelliccia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_772-960CE:pOP001
3.37237305C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_804-557BCE:MAS004
6.43401896C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_400-530CE:MAS003
7.72047278C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_240-380CE:MAS002
2.96464163C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_MAS001:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_350-100BCE:MAS001
10.57212845C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:MaglianoinToscana(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:MAG001
3.49005731C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_977-1022CE:ETR014
3.41493777C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)C899-1016CE:ETR013
3.06292344C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR012
17.43717580C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR010
1.86772589C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007
6.17036466C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_772-888CE:ETR006
5.64591002C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_805-774BCE:ETR005
4.37476857C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to::Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR004
12.27070088C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_997-1149CE:ETR003
3.75043997C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN013
4.22577803C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Decima

Distance to::Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN012
10.04464036C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_380-204BCE:CSN010
6.08673147C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN009
5.65394553C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN008
4.70089353C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN007
5.79393649C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_533-392BCE:CSN006
4.42379927C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN005
5.78621638C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN004
5.90316864C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_380-204BCE:CSN003
5.06993097C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu_related:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN002
10.63977443C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN001
1.96921304C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_770-540BCE:CAM003
3.97761235C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_770-520BCE:CAM002
5.19538257C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria

Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_780-540BCE:CAM001
3.06572993C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
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I have just realized there is literally only 1 sample here that matches up with C5 Eastern Mediterranean.

What the hell!?

They are ovewhelmingly C7 and C6

I don't understand, are these not representative of this?:

9PrZLOH.jpg
 
Target: Medieval_Etruria_800_1200CE
Distance: 1.4271% / 0.01427081

76.8Imperial_era_Etruria
16.2Swedish
7.0ITA_Etruscan


Using Iron Age Pre-Imperial era Etruscans vs Swedish vs Imperial era Etruria reduces the Germanic input from 20% to 16%. Not bad.
Which I believe is accurate as some Italic-like genetic profiles survived in non-urban isolated regions.
Target: Medieval_Etruria_800_1200CE
Distance: 1.4271% / 0.01427081

76.8Imperial_era_Etruria
16.2Swedish
7.0ITA_Etruscan
 
Modern Tuscans need 25% extra Iron Age Etruscan. This is interesting.

Target: Italian_Tuscany
Distance: 1.5527% / 0.01552665

53.8Imperial_era_Etruria
25.8ITA_Etruscan
20.4Swedish
Target: Italian_Tuscany
Distance: 1.5527% / 0.01552665

53.8Imperial_era_Etruria
25.8ITA_Etruscan
20.4Swedish
 
kingjohn said:
yes you are correct (y)
she is from older paper
just it was in a list of k12b values of samples salento posted
for lucas to add to vahaduo k12b ancient tool
it is still cool she clusters with campania :cool-v:
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I do not have elements to support it for this specific case (ETR001) but in Etruria both during the Iron Age and after there were undoubtedly also people from southern Italy, not always there is the need of foreigners' admixture to justify ancient people who plot with modern-day southern Italians. Southern Italy is closer geographically.

ETR001's mtdna was T1a8a, and was found in a sample of Italians (non Tuscans) but of unknown origins, and also found in a sample found in Egypt from 2000 years ago that suggests it is perhaps arrival into Italy in the Rome imperial age?
The problem is that many can be simply mixed and it's not easy to always figure out everything about their origin.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1a8a/
 
Jovialis said:
These medieval samples from Tuscany would not have been considered "Eastern Mediterranean" in the Antonio et al. 2019 paper. Rather, they would have been put in the C6 cluster "Mediterranean".

This is the same ancestry as R437.

Antonio et al. 2019 says there was a demographic shift away from the eastern Mediterranean. The resurgence was based on C7, but predominately C6, which was found in IA. Ergo, their idea of local-population resurgence was the increase of these ancestries, and the disappearance and reduction of the other.

So what gives here?

Frankly, I am not sure of this paper, or the modeling they used. But it is like they are speaking a different language of what I am familiar with on this subject.
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I've been sounding like a broken record, I'm sure, but that's why I've been asking repeatedly why the authors or someone in the internet hobbyist world isn't modeling with IA Aegean, or Empuries, or with one of what has been labeled our "Greek_Italians", like 437 or 850. Those two samples clearly show that there were people even in the first millennium BC who showed this kind of autosomal signature, so why not use them to do the modeling?

Even back with the Amorim paper on the Lombards, the paper concluded that the locals were most like modern Southern Italians. Interestingly enough, that was also a Max Planck paper, with Krause on it, and had many of the same Italian contributing authors. The main difference was that the lead was Amorim, and the lead on this paper was Posth.

I'm not saying I know what this modeling would show, but I think it's worth doing.

What would Latin/Etruscan main clusters, plus 437 and or 850 like people show? Would they be Imperial Tuscan like, or is that an unrepresentative sample? Would that combination come close to early Medieval Tuscans if a bit of Germanic was added?

Also, as one of the charts from the paper I've posted shows, the bigger pull north for Tuscans doesn't seem to have occurred in the creation of the early or even Middle Medieval Tuscans, when you would expect to see Lombard and Gothic influence, but later. Your PCA seems to show that as well.

I'm at a loss as to what it could be, unless it was gradual Northern Italian movement southward. Of course, there would also have been Tuscan movement northward, from my reading on the topic.
 
Pax Augusta said:
I do not have elements to support it for this specific case (ETR001) but in Etruria both during the Iron Age and after there were undoubtedly also people from southern Italy, not always there is the need of foreigners' admixture to justify ancient people who plot with modern-day southern Italians. Southern Italy is closer geographically.

ETR001's mtdna was T1a8a, and was found in a sample of Italians (non Tuscans) but of unknown origins, and also found in a sample found in Egypt from 2000 years ago that suggests it is perhaps arrival into Italy in the Rome imperial age?
The problem is that many can be simply mixed and it's not easy to always figure out everything about their origin.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1a8a/
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maybe jovialis can check her out :unsure:

[FONT=&quot]ETR001_Imperial_Rome_Chiusi_Tuscany,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0
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to me she looks like she belonged to c6 cluster
which is the main cluster in the other etruscans
she is much more northern than me for example ( who have tendency for c5 cluster or between c5-c6)
her atlantic -medit is high
i think she was native to the area

p.s
i think she was clearly c6 cluster
EMS85401-f001.jpg
 
kingjohn said:
maybe jovialis can check her out :unsure:

ETR001_Imperial_Rome_Chiusi_Tuscany,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0

to me she looks like she belonged to c6 cluster
which is the main cluster in the other etruscans
she is much more northern than me for example ( who have tendency for c5 cluster or between c5-c6)
her atlantic -medit is high
i think she was native to the area

p.s
i think she was clearly c6 cluster
EMS85401-f001.jpg
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I'm not checking because I'm messed up but the main cluster whom Etruscan samples belong is C7, not C6. It's the the others, later samples that are no more "Etruscan", that end up in cluster C6.

The 2020 paper that analyzed ETR001 for the first time claims that "ETR001, is younger and represent European genetic ancestry established after major prehistoric migrations".
 
my mistake i thought they were c6
so etruscans were c7:)
if that is the case there was some eastern shift indeed
that pulled the mediveal etruscans to c6 cluster:unsure:
 
Jovialis said:
I have just realized there is literally only 1 sample here that matches up with C5 Eastern Mediterranean.
What the hell!?
They are ovewhelmingly C7 and C6
I don't understand, are these not representative of this?:
9PrZLOH.jpg
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Basically, it seems that both studies are looking at the same results, with two different conclusions.

One thing is certain l, it seems both areas had central-southern Italian-like people in the middle ages in Tuscany and Rome. I personally believe, results will show this kind of ancestry was present in the Iron Age, which we know is true based on R437 (Also similar to Balkans IA). To me, it seems that C6 is native to Italy, most likely more in the south, which show C6 as well. It became mixed with C7, and eventually became more prevalent in the Imperial era, to the middle ages. Maybe pockets of the original C7 survive in more places than others, idk.
 
kingjohn said:
my mistake i thought they were c6
so etruscans were c7:)
if that is the case there was some eastern shift indeed
that pulled the mediveal etruscans to c6 cluster:unsure:
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That's what we've been talking about for days. :)

The number one suspects are imperial age migrations, but there are still few samples to get an accurate picture.
 
it effected some of them not all
some are still c7 :unsure:


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_10 18-1151CE:TAQ022
5.02372372C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio


Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_262-424CE:TAQ021
3.65334094C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata


Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020
4.22571887C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_358-98BCE:TAQ019
3.19007837C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_ 346-51BCE:TAQ018
3.22772366C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_ 356-96BCE:TAQ017
3.92517516C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio): TAQ016
3.79457508C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ015
2.14424812C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio): TAQ013
3.21407841C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio): TAQ012
7.75460508C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89 5-1016CE:TAQ011
2.43840112C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio): TAQ010
2.88548090C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89 9-1021CE:TAQ009
2.77380605C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio): TAQ008
5.01349180C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_391-207BCE:TAQ007
7.04589242C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_ :TAQ006
5.79330648C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_ 346-51BCE:TAQ005
6.18588716C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_ :TAQ004
3.51907658C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_72 9-942CE:TAQ003
2.66726452C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_103BCE-54CE:TAQ002
2.71341114C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_ 356-96BCE:TAQ001
4.61831138C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:poggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_772-436BCE:pRZ002
5.50763107C7_Iron_Age_European:R851_(Latini)_Ardea


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:poggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_794-543BCE:pRZ001
2.43057606C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:poggioPelliccia(Grosseto_Tu scany)_772-960CE:pOP001
3.37237305C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tusc any)_804-557BCE:MAS004
6.43401896C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica


Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tusc any)_400-530CE:MAS003
7.72047278C3_Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tusc any)_240-380CE:MAS002
2.96464163C5_Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossin i_Necropolis


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_MAS001:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosse to_Tuscany)_350-100BCE:MAS001
10.57212845C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:MaglianoinToscana(Grosseto_Tuscan y)_790-550BCE:MAG001
3.49005731C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany )_977-1022CE:ETR014
3.41493777C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)C899-1016CE:ETR013
3.06292344C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscan y):ETR012
17.43717580C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscan y):ETR010
1.86772589C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007
6.17036466C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_772-888CE:ETR006
5.64591002C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_805-774BCE:ETR005
4.37476857C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to::Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR004
12.27070088C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna


Distance to:C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_997-1149CE:ETR003
3.75043997C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny):CSN013
4.22577803C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma


Distance to::Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN012
10.04464036C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny)_380-204BCE:CSN010
6.08673147C7_Imperial_European:R116_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN009
5.65394553C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny):CSN008
4.70089353C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny):CSN007
5.79393649C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_533-392BCE:CSN006
4.42379927C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny):CSN005
5.78621638C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny):CSN004
5.90316864C7_Iron_Age_European:R1015_(Villanovan)_Veio_Grott a_Gramiccia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_380-204BCE:CSN003
5.06993097C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu_related:Casenovole(Grosseto_T uscany)_427-265BCE:CSN002
10.63977443C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tusca ny):CSN001
1.96921304C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_7 70-540BCE:CAM003
3.97761235C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscan y)_770-520BCE:CAM002
5.19538257C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria


Distance to:C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_7 80-540BCE:CAM001
3.06572993C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia



 
Why are we acting like C7 and C6 are synonymous though?
Like C6 is halfway between C4 and C7.

jjR7qSj.png

This paper and Antonio are not even in contradiction.

In fact, from the PCAs posted by our very own Mods. This is more than obvious.

UCshCN5.png


Tuscany_Imp and R437 plots right in between Cypriot and Villanova.
This is the angle Jov provided, and to me it is obvious this PCA is in line with both Antonio and Max Plank papers.

Maybe it is worth re reading both papers.

lfuhM6S.png


Iron: Majority C7(70%) + minority(C3,C5,C6;10% each) -> Imperial: C5 Majority (50%) + minority (C4,C6;25% each) + super-minority C7(4%) -> Antiquity even split C5,C6,C7 into -> Medieval 4:6 C7:C6 resurgence.

How is that timeline any different from the one proposed here? Where since the Iron age C3,5,6 are present but a minority to C7. While during Imperial Times C7 almost flatlines, with the increase of C4,5, averaging the C7 component into a C6 (what this paper calls an up to 60% admix of Levantine (C4). Meaning C7 + C4 leading to C6 like people. Then this very paper makes the point for the resurgence of C7, and the melting of any remaining unadmixed eastern C4/5 into C6, through an up to 40% Northern input (Lombards, Germanic etc).

I really do not see what is so controversial here?
 
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