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Thread: Variation of Ancestry in Posth et al. 2021's Imperial C. Italy cluster

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    Variation of Ancestry in Posth et al. 2021's Imperial C. Italy cluster

    I have compared the 6 individuals that compose the Imperial cluster of Posth et al. 2021, to Antonio et al. 2019's populations. In the Antonio paper, it was verified that the 48 Imperial cluster individuals was divided into several different ethnic groups, (i.e. (C6) Central Mediterranean, (C5) Eastern Mediterranean, (C4) Near Eastern and (C3) North African). With 31 of the 48 individuals from the Antonio paper being C6 and C5, with rest being a minority of C4, and even smaller C3.

    The findings here show that 4 of the 6 individuals here belong to the C6 cohort, with only one individual showing affinity to C3, and the other C5.

    I was disappointed to see that Posth et al. 2021 had glossed over this nuance. Which is what has motivated me to make this thread.

    We know from the Antonio paper, that C6 ancestry eventually became the most dominate in Rome, by the time of the middle ages. This also seems to be the case in Tuscany.

    Distance to: TAQ021
    3.65334094 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    4.97456531 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    5.18260552 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    5.70495399 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    6.04666024 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    6.28720129 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    6.57902728 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    6.65725920 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    6.71589160 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    6.98328003 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    7.02547507 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
    7.26534239 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
    7.33377802 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    7.65644173 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    7.96656764 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    8.01634580 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
    8.20192660 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    8.33453058 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    8.54786523 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    8.69293966 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    8.70378653 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    8.72009174 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    8.73635508 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
    8.78846972 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    8.91677072 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria


    Distance to: TAQ020
    4.22571887 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
    4.31196011 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    5.71508530 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    6.04187885 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    6.30849427 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    6.36097477 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    6.41825521 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
    6.51541250 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    6.83435440 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    6.93213531 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
    7.00451997 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.12097606 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    7.76882230 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    8.44433538 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    8.45839819 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
    8.71862374 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
    8.80415243 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    9.27257785 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    9.40364291 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    9.58771610 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    9.69825758 C7:Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
    9.83711340 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.94152403 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    10.02607600 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    10.34189054 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s


    Distance to: MAS003
    7.72047278 C3:Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
    8.71365021 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    8.89276672 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
    9.07572587 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    9.62520130 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    9.93343344 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    10.17619772 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    10.30015048 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    10.30794354 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    10.45892442 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    10.58182876 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    10.58912650 C3:Imperial_North_African:R80_Viale_Rossini_Necrop olis
    10.72016791 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
    10.76918753 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    10.82503118 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    11.26164730 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    11.38913956 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    11.47918116 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
    11.57820366 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    11.66526039 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis
    11.79233649 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    11.82417862 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    12.06321682 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    12.10252866 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    12.33378287 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia


    Distance to: MAS002
    2.96464163 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossin i_Necropolis
    4.41155301 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R41_Isola_Sacra_Necropoli s
    4.43072229 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R134_Marcellino_ &_Pietro
    4.49097985 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R34_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    5.13506572 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R115_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis
    5.33598163 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R66_ANAS
    5.45977106 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R133_Marcellino_ &_Pietro
    5.51823341 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1545_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese
    5.83553768 C5:Iron_Age_Eastern_Mediterranean:R850_(Latini)_Ar dea
    5.91614740 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1543_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese
    5.96332961 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R123_Casale_del_ Dolce
    6.16414633 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R39_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis
    6.17226863 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_N ecropolis
    6.54462375 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R40_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis
    6.85520970 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    7.11766816 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS
    7.13604232 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1548_Monteroton do
    7.20874469 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R75_Viale_Rossini_Necropo lis
    7.60957949 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R130_Marcellino_ &_Pietro
    7.64296408 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis
    7.67714791 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R72_ANAS
    8.11841733 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    8.52355560 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R70_ANAS
    8.78526038 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    9.15473102 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro


    Distance to: ETR016
    3.63450134 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    4.49499722 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    4.96361763 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    5.19576751 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    5.29554530 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    5.36639544 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    5.38421768 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    5.62904965 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
    5.66066251 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    5.70618086 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
    5.81165209 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    6.07345865 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    6.37235435 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
    6.80506429 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.05703904 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    7.20941745 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    7.22380786 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
    7.37444913 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    7.40482951 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.67558467 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    7.68412650 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    7.71538074 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
    7.76568091 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Mont e_Agnese
    7.78879965 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    7.92380590 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina


    Distance to: ETR001
    3.08917465 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    3.12755496 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    4.03565360 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    4.13444071 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    4.93768164 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    5.00859262 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    5.05356310 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    5.56285898 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    6.02139519 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    6.29034975 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    6.51112126 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    6.52214689 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    6.66137373 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    6.98725983 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    7.02551777 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.25305453 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
    7.88702098 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
    7.93834366 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    8.01208462 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    8.17496789 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    8.30575704 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    8.45656550 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
    8.47171765 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    8.53086748 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    8.58506261 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I have compared the 6 individuals that compose the Imperial cluster of Posth et al. 2021, to Antonio et al. 2019's populations. In the Antonio paper, it was verified that the 48 Imperial cluster individuals was divided into several different ethnic groups, (i.e. (C6) Central Mediterranean, (C5) Eastern Mediterranean, (C4) Near Eastern and (C3) North African). With 31 of the 48 individuals from the Antonio paper being C6 and C5, with rest being a minority of C4, and even smaller C3.

    The findings here show that 4 of the 6 individuals here belong to the C6 cohort, with only one individual showing affinity to C3, and the other C5.

    I was disappointed to see that Posth et al. 2021 had glossed over this nuance. Which is what has motivated me to make this thread.

    We know from the Antonio paper, that C6 ancestry eventually became the most dominate in Rome, by the time of the middle ages. This also seems to be the case in Tuscany.

    Distance to: TAQ021
    3.65334094 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    4.97456531 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    5.18260552 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    5.70495399 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    6.04666024 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    6.28720129 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    6.57902728 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    6.65725920 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    6.71589160 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    6.98328003 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    7.02547507 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
    7.26534239 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
    7.33377802 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    7.65644173 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    7.96656764 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    8.01634580 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
    8.20192660 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    8.33453058 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    8.54786523 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    8.69293966 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    8.70378653 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    8.72009174 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    8.73635508 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
    8.78846972 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    8.91677072 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria


    Distance to: TAQ020
    4.22571887 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
    4.31196011 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    5.71508530 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    6.04187885 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    6.30849427 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    6.36097477 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    6.41825521 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
    6.51541250 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    6.83435440 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    6.93213531 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
    7.00451997 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.12097606 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    7.76882230 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    8.44433538 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    8.45839819 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
    8.71862374 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
    8.80415243 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    9.27257785 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    9.40364291 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    9.58771610 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    9.69825758 C7:Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
    9.83711340 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    9.94152403 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    10.02607600 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    10.34189054 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s


    Distance to: MAS003
    7.72047278 C3:Iron_Age_N_African/Euro-Mix:R475_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
    8.71365021 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    8.89276672 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
    9.07572587 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    9.62520130 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    9.93343344 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    10.17619772 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    10.30015048 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    10.30794354 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    10.45892442 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    10.58182876 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    10.58912650 C3:Imperial_North_African:R80_Viale_Rossini_Necrop olis
    10.72016791 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
    10.76918753 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    10.82503118 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    11.26164730 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    11.38913956 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    11.47918116 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
    11.57820366 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    11.66526039 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R45_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis
    11.79233649 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R32_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    11.82417862 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    12.06321682 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    12.10252866 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    12.33378287 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia


    Distance to: MAS002
    2.96464163 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R81_Viale_Rossin i_Necropolis
    4.41155301 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R41_Isola_Sacra_Necropoli s
    4.43072229 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R134_Marcellino_ &_Pietro
    4.49097985 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R34_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    5.13506572 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R115_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis
    5.33598163 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R66_ANAS
    5.45977106 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R133_Marcellino_ &_Pietro
    5.51823341 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1545_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese
    5.83553768 C5:Iron_Age_Eastern_Mediterranean:R850_(Latini)_Ar dea
    5.91614740 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1543_Necropolis _of_Monte_Agnese
    5.96332961 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R123_Casale_del_ Dolce
    6.16414633 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R39_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis
    6.17226863 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R50_Centocelle_N ecropolis
    6.54462375 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R40_Isola_Sacra_ Necropolis
    6.85520970 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R51_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    7.11766816 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R73_ANAS
    7.13604232 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R1548_Monteroton do
    7.20874469 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R75_Viale_Rossini_Necropo lis
    7.60957949 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R130_Marcellino_ &_Pietro
    7.64296408 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R114_Via_Paisiel lo_Necropolis
    7.67714791 C5:Imperial_Eastern_Mediterranean:R72_ANAS
    8.11841733 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    8.52355560 C4:Imperial_Near_Eastern:R70_ANAS
    8.78526038 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    9.15473102 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro


    Distance to: ETR016
    3.63450134 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    4.49499722 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    4.96361763 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    5.19576751 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    5.29554530 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    5.36639544 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    5.38421768 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    5.62904965 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
    5.66066251 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    5.70618086 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
    5.81165209 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    6.07345865 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    6.37235435 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
    6.80506429 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.05703904 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R136_Marcellino_&_Pietro
    7.20941745 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    7.22380786 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
    7.37444913 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    7.40482951 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.67558467 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    7.68412650 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    7.71538074 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
    7.76568091 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1544_Necropolis_of_Mont e_Agnese
    7.78879965 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R30_Mausol e_di_Augusto
    7.92380590 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R436_Palestrina


    Distance to: ETR001
    3.08917465 C6:Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_T ribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
    3.12755496 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    4.03565360 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    4.13444071 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    4.93768164 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    5.00859262 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    5.05356310 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    5.56285898 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    6.02139519 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    6.29034975 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    6.51112126 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s
    6.52214689 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    6.66137373 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    6.98725983 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
    7.02551777 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.25305453 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
    7.88702098 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
    7.93834366 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    8.01208462 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    8.17496789 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    8.30575704 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    8.45656550 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
    8.47171765 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    8.53086748 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    8.58506261 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro

    Distance to: Medieval_Tuscany_(n=10)
    2.44969386 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
    2.76721882 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    3.60743676 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    3.86530723 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
    4.42154950 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    4.51858385 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    4.55669837 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
    5.08760258 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
    5.32698789 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
    5.51436306 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
    5.67327066 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
    5.90461684 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
    6.03094520 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
    6.23292066 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
    6.23983173 C6:Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R107_Crypta_Balbi
    6.46305655 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    6.62408484 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    7.11414085 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
    7.26378689 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
    7.42296437 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
    7.54023872 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
    7.58096959 C5:Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Erc olano_Necropolis_Ostia
    7.58977602 C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
    8.03202341 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
    8.12423535 C6:Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropoli s

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    It is worth mentioning, the 2 outliers MAS002 and MAS003, are both from the same location. So the rest of the locations are totally represented by C6.

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    Code:
    C.Italy_Imperial:ETR001,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0
    C.Italy_Imperial:ETR016,4.02,0,3.44,0,29.94,12.31,0.63,1.6,14.29,1.06,32.71,0
    C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020,9.02,0.66,1.49,0.5,34.13,18.73,0.12,0,7.43,0,27.92,0
    C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_262-424CE:TAQ021,3.74,0,2.51,0,33.22,11.47,2.01,0,12.62,0,34.44,0
    
    
    C6_Imperial_Etruria_(n=4),6.2425,0.165,2.515,0.2375,32.8025,13.455,0.69,0.4,11.59,0.265,31.64,0
    Here are the outliers:

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    C5:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_240-380CE:MAS002,6.49,1.52,3.63,0,23.56,7.82,0,0.48,18.33,0.02,38.16,0
    C3:C.Italy_Imperial:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_400-530CE:MAS003,2.81,0,8.6,1.47,34.71,11.66,0,1.28,11.86,0,26.84,0.76

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    I followed your order, Jovialis. I hope I did everything right. If not, I'll redo them tomorrow. MAS002 and MAS003 are C.Italy_Imperial_o, the other 4 are C.Italy_Imperial






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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    I followed your order, Jovialis. I hope I did everything right. If not, I'll redo them tomorrow. MAS002 and MAS003 are C.Italy_Imperial_o, the other 4 are C.Italy_Imperial





    Looks good, more informative than the Posth paper PCA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Looks good, more informative than the Posth paper PCA.
    The uniparental markers.


    MAS002: Y-DNA R1b1a1b1b (Z2103); mtDNA H74

    Autosomal DNA fits with modern southern Greek Aegean islanders and Sephardic, Romaniote and Italkim Jews (G25, Dodecad K12b), but his uniparental markers don't look typical for his autosomal DNA. R1b1a1b1b (Z2103) could be anything, mtDNA H74 was previously found in VK408 who was a Swedish-like Viking found in Ladoga, Russia (Age: Viking 10-12th centuries CE Y-DNA: R-CTS11962 mtDNA: H74).

    MAS003: Y-DNA R1b1a1b (M269/PF6517); mtDNA K1b2a1

    He is distant from everyone, his Autosomal DNA is modelled as he was 75% Maltese + 25% Sardinian or 75% Italian_Lazio + 25% Berber. Again, hard to tell what he really was, very likely he was at least a 1/4 North African/Berber-like.

    ETR016: Y-DNA I1; mtDNA R2b

    ETR001: mtDNA T1a8a

    TAQ021: Y-DNA J2a1a2b1b (M319); mtDNA X1

    TAQ020: Y-DNA J2a1a1a2 (Z2229); mtDNA H44a

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