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Thread: Eurogenes G25 model for Greeks and Turks. (Bronze Age, Iron age, Medieval)

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    Eurogenes G25 model for Greeks/Cypriots and Turks. (Bronze Age, Iron age, Medieval)

    I used Vahaduo to make a Eurogenes Global 25 model for Greeks and Turks.
    BA = Bronze Age IA = Iron Age, E = Early, MA = Middle Ages/Medieval.
    From what i observed the acceptable distance should be below 2% and a good distance is around 1%.

    Update:
    The goal is to hit a distance of 0.9-1.1%, we don't want it below 0.9% because there might be over corrections since the calculator does not care if it makes sense but it just cares for getting the lowest distance. The acceptable distance usually for models like this is below 2% and around 1% are not too low and not too high so i think 0.9-1.1 is more balanced from what i observed.

    1) Reduce the populations to 2, if the distance is higher than 1.1% then the TARGET must be mixed between more populations so increase it by 1 population.

    2)If you get a distance below 0.9%
    then there might be over corrections so increase distance cooldown until you get 0.9-1.1% distance. If you still get below 0.9% then just keep increasing the distance cooldown until it gets the closest to 0.9-1.1%, if it's above 1.1% with distance cooldown then increase by 1 population

    3) If you got higher than 1.1% distance with 2 populations then you increased the populations by 1 and so you must repeat the steps above but with the increased populations, keep repeating the steps until you get a distance between 0.9-1.1%.

    3) If you keep getting above 1.1% and below 2% then reduce it to 5-6 populations if there are more and try adding 0.25x distance cooldown. If the distance changed only by 0.1% then it might have removed over corrections and worked but it's not guaranteed, it might make results worse, it's hard to tell with high distances.
    If it goes above 2% then the model is not good for you either because you are mixed or not a Greek or a Turk, excluding East Anatolian Turks since i didn't add Caucasian proxies.

    Target: Greek_Cypriot
    Distance: 1.0956% / 0.01095610 | R2P
    60.0 Levant_BA
    40.0 Aegean_BA_IA

    Target: Greek_Crete
    Distance: 1.0799% / 0.01079905 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
    54.8 Aegean_BA_IA
    29.2 Levant_BA
    16.0 Anatolia_BA

    Target: Greek_Dodecanese
    Distance: 1.1191% / 0.01119087 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
    38.8 Aegean_BA_IA
    35.4 Levant_North_BA
    25.8 Anatolia_BA

    Target: Greek_Laconia
    Distance: 1.0081% / 0.01008117 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
    44.4 Aegean_BA_IA
    28.2 Levant_BA
    27.4 Early_Slav_EMA

    Target: Greek_Peloponnese
    Distance: 0.8024% / 0.00802394 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    53.8 Aegean_BA_IA
    24.0 Early_Slav_EMA
    22.2 Levant_BA

    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 1.0050% / 0.01005012 | R3P
    53.2 Aegean_BA_IA
    23.8 Anatolia_BA
    23.0 Early_Slav_EMA

    Target: Greek_Macedonia
    Distance: 0.9139% / 0.00913891 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    50.0 Aegean_BA_IA
    29.0 Early_Slav_EMA
    21.0 Levant_North_BA

    Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
    Distance: 0.8742% / 0.00874231 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
    45.8 Aegean_BA_IA
    35.6 Early_Slav_EMA
    18.6 Levant_North_BA

    Target: Greek_Izmir
    Distance: 1.0162% / 0.01016167 | R3P
    49.6 Anatolia_BA
    25.6 Aegean_BA_IA
    24.8 Early_Slav_EMA

    Target: Turkish_Northwest
    Distance: 0.9892% / 0.00989196 | R3P
    48.2 Anatolia_East_BA
    35.0 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    16.8 Early_Slav_EMA

    Full source:
    Code:
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    Anatolia_East_BA:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA,0.1032945,0.1546142,-0.0594908,-0.089552,-0.0198495,-0.0290045,0.0017625,-0.010615,-0.0177422,0.012483,0.0054808,0.0017985,-0.005649,0.003888,-0.0106202,-0.0020882,0.0073667,0.0017735,0.0029852,0.0010945,-0.001435,0.004235,-0.0016332,-0.0043682,-0.000509
    
    Anatolia_BA:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Anatolia_BA:TUR_Ovaoren_EBA,0.0990263,0.151991,-0.0452547,-0.0812883,-0.0043087,-0.022776,-0.0019583,-0.0081533,-0.0088627,0.027457,0.0073077,0.0044463,-0.0130327,-0.0065143,-0.0147933,-0.000442,0.0126037,0.003801,0.0043577,-0.0017507,0.0003327,0.0055233,-0.0028757,0.0011247,-0.0024747
    Anatolia_BA:TUR_Isparta_EBA,0.114582,0.1590993,-0.040226,-0.0802117,-0.004411,-0.024728,7.83e-05,-0.003846,-0.0115897,0.0329847,0.0068207,0.003497,-0.012686,-0.003257,-0.0225297,0.0032263,0.0214267,-0.0024493,0.0070393,-0.0007087,-0.0044507,-0.003215,0.000575,-0.003213,-0.0022353
    
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:West_Turkic:KAZ_Kipchak:DA179,0.067156,-0.041637,-0.012822,-0.005814,-0.018773,0.002789,0.001645,0.009,-0.0045,-0.011481,-0.01088,3e-04,0.004311,0.000963,0.000271,0.016706,0.012256,-0.007601,0.006159,0.000625,-0.000749,0.002844,0.001849,0.01458,-0.006706
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:Ottoman_1400ad:MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
    
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204,0.068294,-0.155376,0.032055,0.014535,-0.05601,0,0.002585,0.003692,-0.010226,-0.015126,-0.018675,-0.002847,0.001189,-0.016928,0.009365,0.00358,-0.01695,0.000887,0.005028,0.001751,-0.018343,0.003215,-0.00456,-0.006627,-0.007185
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karakhanid:DA205,0.05805,-0.199044,0.027907,0.002907,-0.041854,-0.01004,0.00705,0.005307,-0.011862,-0.007472,-0.010555,-0.001199,-0.000446,-0.007156,0.012758,0.007955,0.002086,0.001774,0.000377,0.006003,-0.015348,0.003833,-0.00419,-0.003735,-0.002515
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karluk:DA222,0.064879,-0.158423,0.023004,0.000969,-0.05601,-0.00753,0.00658,0.014999,-0.01493,-0.010934,-0.018188,0.001649,0,-0.004266,0.0076,-0.000928,-0.006519,0.005448,0.01081,0.001501,-0.015473,-0.003586,-0.003328,-0.004579,0.005987
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karluk:DA230,0.061464,-0.145221,0.011691,-0.002584,-0.037545,0.001673,0.00329,0.009461,-0.01718,-0.009476,-0.021922,-0.003297,0,-0.001101,0.013979,-0.006895,-0.020992,0.002914,0.003771,-0.005378,-0.004492,-0.000742,0.00037,0.000602,0.002155
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Kimak:DA87,0.080814,-0.140143,0.043746,0.027455,-0.050471,-0.011435,0.00376,0.000462,-0.020043,-0.018224,-0.007632,-0.003147,-0.006244,-0.002064,0.008822,0.007425,-0.019558,0.005448,-0.003142,-0.027013,-0.02533,-0.010387,-0.001479,-0.010363,0.001317
    
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:Average,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9010,0.110408,0.160454,-0.015462,-0.071383,0.029544,-0.038487,-0.003525,0.004154,0.013499,0.056129,0.018025,0.017235,-0.00223,-0.00234,-0.023208,-0.005038,0.031553,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004002,-0.006613,0.003215,-0.016145,-0.007109,-0.003113
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041,0.110408,0.15436,-0.006034,-0.068476,0.020004,-0.021475,-0.00282,0.000923,0.007976,0.042097,0.003248,0.016036,-0.019326,-0.008533,-0.016015,-0.002387,0.021122,0.006588,0.010182,-0.002876,-0.006364,0.016199,0.001356,0.006386,-0.00491
    
    Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,0.118376,0.158423,-0.009051,-0.0670225,0.0252355,-0.027889,0.001645,-0.005077,0.0049085,0.042552,0.002842,0.01124,-0.016873,0.003578,-0.018526,-0.0157785,0.0035855,0.0003805,0.004588,-0.0126935,-0.008298,0.001546,0.001664,0.0071095,-0.008502
    Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208,0.1161,0.158423,-0.017348,-0.06783,0.026774,-0.032351,-0.00282,-0.001154,0.007158,0.04319,0.003573,0.015586,-0.017096,0.006468,-0.016965,-0.02559,-0.007693,-0.000253,0.00993,-0.017133,-0.003494,0.000866,0.005053,0.00241,-0.010538
    Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215,0.120652,0.158423,-0.000754,-0.066215,0.023697,-0.023427,0.00611,-0.009,0.002659,0.041914,0.002111,0.006894,-0.01665,0.000688,-0.020087,-0.005967,0.014864,0.001014,-0.000754,-0.008254,-0.013102,0.002226,-0.001725,0.011809,-0.006466
    
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Cycladic_EBA,0.1160995,0.1701015,-0.021119,-0.081073,0.018311,-0.035419,-0.0024675,-0.0050765,0.0076695,0.048657,0.00682,0.0138625,-0.020664,0.0059865,-0.0281615,-0.0046405,0.014342,0.002534,0.0099305,-0.011693,-0.009483,-0.0005565,-0.002095,0.0018675,-0.002395
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Helladic_EBA,0.112685,0.179749,-0.000754,-0.08721,0.02739,-0.032351,-0.003995,-0.005769,0.028224,0.06761,0.002111,0.010641,-0.020812,0.005643,-0.030944,-0.021347,0.009127,0.003927,0.00729,-0.014757,-0.007237,0.000742,-0.000986,0.007953,-0.005269
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Helladic_MBA,0.1206525,0.1482675,0.0226275,-0.011951,0.022312,-0.010319,-0.0043475,-0.0032305,-0.0011245,0.0132125,0.0017865,0.011315,-0.0136765,0.000963,-0.0094325,-0.0129275,-0.0063885,-0.0008235,0.0072275,-0.0086295,-0.0116045,0.0025965,0.008073,0.005362,-0.0020955
    Aegean_BA_IA:Helladic_Cycladic_Mix,0.116479,0.1660393,0.0002515,-0.060078,0.022671,-0.0260297,-0.0036033,-0.004692,0.0115897,0.0431598,0.0035725,0.0119395,-0.0183842,0.0041975,-0.022846,-0.0129717,0.0056935,0.0018792,0.0081493,-0.0116932,-0.0094415,0.0009273,0.001664,0.0050608,-0.0032532
    Aegean_BA_IA:Hel_Cyc_Min_EBA,0.1160995,0.1674355,-0.0041484,-0.0679108,0.0238508,-0.028377,-0.001645,-0.0041535,0.0141122,0.0463564,0.0052776,0.0101911,-0.0175789,0.0040771,-0.0255492,-0.0163915,0.0040094,0.0024229,0.0080918,-0.0113649,-0.0095456,0.002674,0.0002928,0.0026209,-0.0020209
    
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Minoan_EBA,0.114961,0.171624,-0.017348,-0.091409,0.02739,-0.035419,0.00423,-0.002538,0.02168,0.055946,0.010393,0.004946,-0.015163,0.003716,-0.033659,-0.026651,-0.001043,0.004054,0.007919,-0.01038,-0.009858,0.007914,-0.003821,-0.004699,0.001676
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Minoan_Lassithi,0.1192866,0.170609,-0.0181772,-0.093993,0.0295438,-0.0398256,-0.001316,-0.0034614,0.0103488,0.0598102,0.0029878,0.0153164,-0.0251238,-5.48e-05,-0.0374586,-0.0109518,0.0173934,-0.0012414,0.0088742,-0.0136316,-0.0133764,0.0083836,-0.0050776,-0.0010604,-0.0024428
    
    Thracia_IA:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
    
    Balkan_East_IA:BGR_IA:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    
    Illyria_MBA:HRV_MBA:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
    Illyria_MBA:HRV_MBA:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
    
    Latium_IA:Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021,0.126344,0.152329,0.034318,-0.014535,0.054164,-0.01506,-0.001175,0.005307,0.019634,0.041914,0.005196,0.01079,-0.011001,-0.005643,0.004479,-0.016441,-0.010822,-0.001394,0.006662,-0.01113,0.007736,0.007172,-0.007641,-0.00241,0.008981
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    Etruscan_IA:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b,0.126344,0.149283,0.034318,-0.007752,0.036622,-0.005299,0.003995,-0.004615,0.014726,0.028793,-0.002111,0.015286,-0.01115,-0.002064,-0.00285,0.003182,0.006258,0.007221,0.012318,-0.002626,-0.003369,0.008037,0.000863,-0.000482,-0.001796
    
    Ancient_Sicilia_LBA:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I10372,0.133173,0.174671,0.00792,-0.065892,0.049855,-0.026216,-0.006815,-0.004384,0.033951,0.063965,-0.003248,0.008542,-0.02438,-0.001514,-0.025244,-0.031822,-0.005607,0.005321,0.01081,-0.015257,-0.009982,-0.00136,-0.005669,-0.013737,0.002155
    Ancient_Sicilia_LBA:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876,0.1161,0.165531,0.010559,-0.059432,0.0437,-0.022032,-0.00846,-0.003923,0.019839,0.056858,-0.00065,0.013788,-0.017393,0.003303,-0.018051,-0.016309,-0.00339,0.004687,0.006788,-0.001,-0.005366,0.003586,0.001602,-0.010845,0.006706
    Ancient_Sicilia_LBA:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878,0.119514,0.168578,0.015462,-0.063631,0.049855,-0.029562,-0.00799,-0.005538,0.026997,0.063054,-0.001786,0.01094,-0.019475,-0.011836,-0.019951,0.00053,0.011343,-0.003041,-0.00088,-0.003752,-0.009733,-0.003091,-0.006655,-0.014219,-0.005389
    
    Sardinia_EBA_IA:Sardinia:ORC002,0.119514,0.17264,0.035826,-0.05168,0.074168,-0.026495,-0.00047,-0.001154,0.046631,0.089296,-0.00406,0.020382,-0.038949,-0.013625,-0.016829,-0.007425,0.007823,-0.000127,-0.001885,-0.013632,-0.003619,0.005935,-0.010106,-0.034342,-0.000958
    Sardinia_EBA_IA:ITA_Sardinia_EBA,0.1253572,0.1778531,0.0436706,-0.0511417,0.0806305,-0.0266619,-0.0064391,0.0002615,0.058712,0.095431,-0.0010067,0.0160058,-0.0319918,-0.012175,-0.0131377,-0.0052154,0.0081533,0.0006503,0.0050027,-0.0076203,0.0047499,0.0039815,-0.0115524,-0.0290724,0.0011975
    
    Early_Slav_EMA:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
    
    Levant_BA:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790729,0.087644,0.147252,-0.067505,-0.097546,-0.017849,-0.041834,-0.003525,-0.009,0.008999,0.008018,0.021273,-0.007343,0.022002,0.007432,-0.011401,0.000928,-0.011604,-0.002027,0.004777,0.014132,0.011355,0.018548,-0.000123,-0.006145,0.005868
    Levant_BA:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790730,0.084229,0.146236,-0.056945,-0.091732,-0.008309,-0.043786,-0.00658,-0.000923,0.005522,0.005467,0.01088,-0.008243,0.014569,0.000275,-0.012079,0.016574,0.011735,0.003674,-0.001131,0.005628,0.001622,0.005688,-0.003328,0.008194,-0.002155
    Levant_BA:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790731,0.079676,0.153345,-0.057699,-0.100453,-0.003693,-0.041834,-0.00564,-0.006,0.017794,0.010387,0.007795,-0.017534,0.029137,0.000688,-0.008958,0.009679,0.000913,-0.006714,0.005405,-0.005628,0.001248,0.00507,0.006286,0.004097,0.000599
    Levant_BA:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790732,0.075123,0.150298,-0.060716,-0.097223,-0.007078,-0.037929,-0.012456,-0.009692,0.017385,0.015126,0.009094,-0.005245,0.021407,0.007432,-0.002307,0.000928,-0.003129,-0.00228,0.001257,0.002001,0.001996,0.002597,-0.00037,0.000843,-0.003832
    Levant_BA:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733,0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
    Levant_BA:ISR:Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8,0.080814,0.145221,-0.066373,-0.101422,-0.021542,-0.029562,-0.003055,-0.012923,0.003272,0.002005,0.012179,-0.008393,0.019475,0.003303,0.001086,0.010872,-0.00339,0.001394,0.007668,-0.003627,0.006988,0.001731,0,0.000241,0.003473
    Levant_BA:Levant_Yehud_IBA:I7003,0.087644,0.160454,-0.054682,-0.102391,-0.006155,-0.041555,-0.004935,-0.002769,0.026588,0.013668,0.019487,-0.008243,0.016204,0.030139,-0.007329,-0.007823,-0.026077,0.003421,0.006662,0.005753,-0.00861,0.013973,-0.006039,0.003374,-0.002515
    Levant_BA:Levant_Megiddo_MLBA,0.0861261,0.1455592,-0.0646134,-0.1002072,-0.014596,-0.0394563,-0.0045434,-0.0097249,0.0131382,0.0089382,0.0103465,-0.0088707,0.0219027,0.0020119,-0.007316,0.005411,-0.0024898,0.004217,0.0036812,0.0073607,0.0047534,0.0040982,-0.0049357,-0.0025361,-0.0014427
    Levant_BA:Levant_Megiddo_IA,0.084229,0.150298,-0.060716,-0.091409,-0.014464,-0.044623,-0.00517,-0.005077,0.011658,0.006014,0.012179,-0.007343,0.019177,0.006193,-0.002307,0.002254,-0.026207,0.005828,0.00729,-0.005753,0.001622,-0.002226,-0.006162,-0.000843,-0.005987
    Levant_BA:Levant_Megiddo_IBA,0.078538,0.152329,-0.058077,-0.112405,0.001846,-0.044344,-0.01034,-0.009,0.030883,0.00164,0.012829,-0.013038,0.026016,-0.001651,-0.008686,0.013259,-0.005085,0.008868,-0.000126,0.001751,-0.000624,0.006059,-0.008134,0.000241,-0.004431
    
    BedouinA_Arab_North_Modern,0.0285823,0.1335987,-0.047601,-0.0827598,-0.0138829,-0.0323513,-0.0107061,-0.0046408,0.0234522,-0.0016198,0.0081734,-0.0107237,0.0247439,0.0004741,0.0015682,0.0070567,-0.0027381,-0.0022382,-0.0034079,0.008254,0.0002081,0.002528,0.0001916,0.0017672,-0.0015967
    
    BedouinB_Arab_South_Modern,0.041925,0.1439232,-0.0598156,-0.1169808,-0.0093179,-0.0480622,-0.0141008,-0.0087432,0.05154,-0.0052038,0.0158689,-0.0305729,0.0629496,0.004855,0.0043959,0.0288529,-0.0199706,0.00366,-0.0040153,0.029,0.0109668,0.0152299,-0.0039166,0.0071025,-0.0083092
    
    South_Semitic_EBA:Arabian_Bedouins:Levant_JOR_EBA:I1706,0.071709,0.139128,-0.062225,-0.111113,-0.008001,-0.043507,-0.011751,-0.015692,0.041723,0.009476,0.013316,-0.019782,0.049653,-0.00523,0.000814,0.028639,-0.000522,-0.00038,-0.001131,0.020135,0.006364,0.012489,-0.00419,0.003133,-0.002036
    
    Berberes_MA:Canary_Islands_Guanche:gun005,-0.01935,0.125926,0.004148,-0.056848,0.049855,-0.029841,-0.034782,0.005307,0.066675,0.028247,0.00406,-0.006894,0.016204,-0.015276,0.019544,0.001856,0.017993,-0.01761,-0.034567,0.018384,-0.0141,-0.025596,0.020706,-0.006145,-0.011376
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    I'm gonna use Anatolia_East as proxy for Anatolia because the calculator has a hard time telling between the other Anatolians and Aegean. I also posted multiple models for the same target with slighty different distances between 0.9-1.1.

    Quote Originally Posted by lacreme View Post
    He would probably score similarly, I have seen results from others with similar genetic profiles (some Arvanites, Northern Greeks, Albanians) and they too score as being a mostly 2-way mix of Mycenean like with a decent chunk of Slavic like (and small amounts of Anatolian etc) while the rest of the Greeks comparatively have decreased Mycenean and Slavic like admixture and more Anatolian and similar admixtures.

    If anything his SSA trace (~1%) is the most probable contamination signal, it doesn't make any sense otherwise.
    Greek Models:
    I splitted the Aegean proxies to see which ones are getting picked.

    Target: Andreas_scaled (Greek_Cypriot)
    Distance: 1.0053% / 0.01005284 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.0 Greek_Mycenaean_BA
    33.4 Levant_BA
    26.6 Anatolia_BA

    Target: Greek_Thessaly (2 Models' below average)
    49,0 Greece_North_BA
    29,2 Balkan_BA_IA
    13,9 Levant_BA
    7,9 Early_Slav_EMA

    Thessaly models:
    Code:
    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 1.0912% / 0.01091203 | ADC: 0.25x
    57.4    Greece_North_BA
    25.8    Balkan_BA_IA
    12.0    Levant_BA
    4.8    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 0.9146% / 0.00914570 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.6    Greece_North_BA
    32.6    Balkan_BA_IA
    15.8    Levant_BA
    11.0    Early_Slav_EMA
    Target: Greek_Macedonia
    Distance: 1.0228% / 0.01022783 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    29.0 Greece_North_BA
    25.6 Early_Slav_EMA
    22.8 Balkan_BA_IA
    11.4 Anatolia_BA
    11.2 Levant_BA

    Target: Greek_Peloponnese
    Distance: 1.0118% / 0.01011819 | ADC: 0.25x
    34.6 Balkan_BA_IA
    34.6 Greece_North_BA
    19.8 Levant_BA
    11.0 Early_Slav_EMA

    Target: Greek_Crete
    Distance: 0.8487% / 0.00848668 | ADC: 0.25x
    36.4 Greece_North_BA
    23.0 Levant_BA
    18.8 Anatolia_BA
    13.8 Balkan_BA_IA
    4.0 Early_Slav_EMA
    3.4 Greek_Mycenaean_BA
    0.6 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman

    Target: Greek_Dodecanese
    Distance: 1.0086% / 0.01008584 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    31.2 Anatolia_BA
    24.2 Greece_North_BA
    18.4 Balkan_BA_IA
    18.0 Levant_BA
    4.8 Greek_Mycenaean_BA
    3.4 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman

    Greek models:
    Code:
    Target: Greek_Cypriot (I added Andreas in the Greek_Cypriot average)
    Distance: 0.8998% / 0.00899840 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    45.2    Levant_BA
    31.0    Aegean_BA_IA
    23.8    Anatolia_BA
    
    Target: Andreas_scaled (Greek Cypriot)
    Distance: 1.0053% / 0.01005284 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.0    Aegean_BA_IA
    33.4    Levant_BA
    26.6    Anatolia_BA
    
    Target: Greek_Dodecanese (Average)
    38,1    Aegean_BA_IA
    32,9    Anatolia_BA
    18,7    Levant_BA
    8,3     Balkan_BA_IA
    2.0    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    
    Greek_Dodecanese has 2 models within 0.9-1.1 so i made an average for them.
    
    Code:
    Target: Greek_Dodecanese
    Distance: 1.0084% / 0.01008353 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    34.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    33.6    Anatolia_BA
    18.8    Levant_BA
    10.4    Balkan_BA_IA
    2.6    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    
    Target: Greek_Dodecanese
    Distance: 1.0805% / 0.01080475 | ADC: 0.25x
    41.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    32.2    Anatolia_BA
    18.6    Levant_BA
    6.2   Balkan_BA_IA
    1.4    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    Target: Greek_Crete Distance: 0.8897% / 0.00889698 | ADC: 0.25x 43.2 Aegean_BA_IA 25.0 Levant_BA 18.2 Anatolia_BA 11.0 Balkan_BA_IA 2.6 Early_Slav_EMA Target: Greek_Kos (Average) 38.4 Anatolia_BA 30.2 Aegean_BA_IA 18.5 Balkan_BA_IA 12.6 Levant_BA The 2 Kos models below are not within 0.9-1.1 distance so i made an average for them. Kos code:
    Code:
    Target: Greek_Kos
    Distance: 0.8356% / 0.00835636 | R4P | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.6    Anatolia_BA
    26.8    Balkan_BA_IA
    17.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    15.0    Levant_BA
    
    Target: Greek_Kos
    Distance: 1.3623% / 0.01362271 | ADC: 0.5x
    42.8    Aegean_BA_IA
    36.2    Anatolia_BA
    10.8    Levant_BA
    10.2    Balkan_BA_IA
    Target: Greek_Peloponnese Distance: 1.0902% / 0.01090237 | ADC: 0.25x 49.2 Aegean_BA_IA 21.0 Levant_BA 19.4 Balkan_BA_IA 10.4 Early_Slav_EMA Target: Greek_Laconia Distance: 1.0081% / 0.01008117 | R4P | ADC: 0.5x RC 44.4 Aegean_BA_IA 28.2 Levant_BA 27.4 Early_Slav_EMA Target: Greek_Thessaly (Average) 47,1 Aegean_BA_IA 29,6 Balkan_BA_IA 15,1 Levant_BA 8,2 Early_Slav_EMA Thessaly has 3 models within 0.9-1.1 so i made an average for them. Thessaly:
    Code:
    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 0.9146% / 0.00914570 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    32.6    Balkan_BA_IA
    15.8    Levant_BA
    11.0    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 0.9467% / 0.00946720 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    42.4    Aegean_BA_IA
    31.0    Balkan_BA_IA
    17.2    Levant_BA
    9.4    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 1.1082% / 0.01108211 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x
    58.2    Aegean_BA_IA
    25.2    Balkan_BA_IA
    12.4    Levant_BA
    4.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    Target: Greek_Macedonia Distance: 0.9645% / 0.00964541 | ADC: 0.25x RC 47.2 Aegean_BA_IA 26.6 Early_Slav_EMA 18.0 Levant_BA 8.2 Balkan_BA_IA Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia Distance: 1.1906% / 0.01190626 | ADC: 0.25x 40.8 Aegean_BA_IA 28.6 Balkan_BA_IA 15.4 Early_Slav_EMA 15.2 Levant_BA Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia Distance: 1.1018% / 0.01101751 | ADC: 0.5x RC 32.8 Balkan_BA_IA 28.0 Aegean_BA_IA 19.8 Levant_BA 19.4 Early_Slav_EMA Target: Greek_Izmir Distance: 1.0305% / 0.01030514 | ADC: 0.25x 38.0 Aegean_BA_IA 30.8 Balkan_BA_IA 19.6 Levant_BA 8.8 Anatolia_BA 2.8 Early_Slav_EMA
    Bulgaria, Turk Cypriot models:
    Code:
    Target: Turkish_Cyprus (Simulated/Converted from another calculator, maybe MDLP. idk)
    Distance: 0.8586% / 0.00858604 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x
    34.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    32.6    Levant_BA
    25.4    Anatolia_BA
    7.4    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    
    Target: Bulgarian
    Distance: 1.1093% / 0.01109321
    40.4    Early_Slav_EMA
    30.8    Balkan_BA_IA
    10.6    Anatolia_BA
    5.8    Latium_IA
    5.4    Levant_BA
    4.0    Aegean_BA_IA
    3.0    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    
    Target: Bulgarian
    Distance: 1.1178% / 0.01117786 | R6P
    42.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    32.2    Balkan_BA_IA
    8.2    Aegean_BA_IA
    8.0    Anatolia_BA
    6.6    Levant_BA
    2.8    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    Turkish models:
    Code:
    Target: Turkish_Northwest
    Distance: 0.9489% / 0.00948863
    46.2    Anatolia_BA
    34.4    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    14.8    Early_Slav_EMA
    4.6    Balkan_BA_IA
    
    Target: Turkish_North
    Distance: 1.5684% / 0.01568357
    57.4    Anatolia_BA
    30.8    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    10.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    1.4    Balkan_BA_IA
    0.2    Aegean_BA_IA
    
    Target: Turkish_Southwest
    Distance: 1.2305% / 0.01230450
    44.6    Anatolia_BA
    40.4    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    8.2    Balkan_BA_IA
    6.8    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Turkish_South
    Distance: 1.6174% / 0.01617421
    52.6    Anatolia_BA
    39.2    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    8.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Turkish_East (Distance too high, needs more eastern proxies)
    Distance: 3.5838% / 0.03583820
    71.4    Anatolia_BA
    20.4    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    8.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Turkish_Central
    Distance: 1.5156% / 0.01515606
    62.2    Anatolia_BA
    27.8    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    10.0    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Turkish_Deliorman
    Distance: 1.2004% / 0.01200361
    37.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    17.8    Anatolia_BA
    16.2    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    10.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    7.4    Levant_BA
    6.4    Balkan_BA_IA
    4.4    Latium_IA
    
    Target: Turkish_Kayseri
    Distance: 1.7252% / 0.01725216
    67.8    Anatolia_BA
    22.0    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    10.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    
    Target: Turkish_Balikesir
    Distance: 1.3492% / 0.01349226
    41.0    Anatolia_BA
    33.0    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    14.0    Aegean_BA_IA
    8.6    Early_Slav_EMA
    3.2    Balkan_BA_IA
    0.2    Levant_BA
    
    Target: Turkish_Aydin
    Distance: 0.8774% / 0.00877377
    51.8    Anatolia_BA
    34.6    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    12.0    Early_Slav_EMA
    1.6    Aegean_BA_IA
    
    Target: Turkish_Adana
    Distance: 2.0325% / 0.02032526
    61.8    Anatolia_BA
    25.2    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    10.2    Early_Slav_EMA
    2.8    Levant_BA
    Source:
    Code:
    Anatolia_BA:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA,0.1032945,0.1546142,-0.0594908,-0.089552,-0.0198495,-0.0290045,0.0017625,-0.010615,-0.0177422,0.012483,0.0054808,0.0017985,-0.005649,0.003888,-0.0106202,-0.0020882,0.0073667,0.0017735,0.0029852,0.0010945,-0.001435,0.004235,-0.0016332,-0.0043682,-0.000509
    
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:West_Turkic:KAZ_Kipchak:DA179,0.067156,-0.041637,-0.012822,-0.005814,-0.018773,0.002789,0.001645,0.009,-0.0045,-0.011481,-0.01088,3e-04,0.004311,0.000963,0.000271,0.016706,0.012256,-0.007601,0.006159,0.000625,-0.000749,0.002844,0.001849,0.01458,-0.006706
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:Ottoman_1400ad:MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
    
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204,0.068294,-0.155376,0.032055,0.014535,-0.05601,0,0.002585,0.003692,-0.010226,-0.015126,-0.018675,-0.002847,0.001189,-0.016928,0.009365,0.00358,-0.01695,0.000887,0.005028,0.001751,-0.018343,0.003215,-0.00456,-0.006627,-0.007185
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karakhanid:DA205,0.05805,-0.199044,0.027907,0.002907,-0.041854,-0.01004,0.00705,0.005307,-0.011862,-0.007472,-0.010555,-0.001199,-0.000446,-0.007156,0.012758,0.007955,0.002086,0.001774,0.000377,0.006003,-0.015348,0.003833,-0.00419,-0.003735,-0.002515
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karluk:DA222,0.064879,-0.158423,0.023004,0.000969,-0.05601,-0.00753,0.00658,0.014999,-0.01493,-0.010934,-0.018188,0.001649,0,-0.004266,0.0076,-0.000928,-0.006519,0.005448,0.01081,0.001501,-0.015473,-0.003586,-0.003328,-0.004579,0.005987
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Karluk:DA230,0.061464,-0.145221,0.011691,-0.002584,-0.037545,0.001673,0.00329,0.009461,-0.01718,-0.009476,-0.021922,-0.003297,0,-0.001101,0.013979,-0.006895,-0.020992,0.002914,0.003771,-0.005378,-0.004492,-0.000742,0.00037,0.000602,0.002155
    Turkic_West_and_Ottoman:KAZ_Kimak:DA87,0.080814,-0.140143,0.043746,0.027455,-0.050471,-0.011435,0.00376,0.000462,-0.020043,-0.018224,-0.007632,-0.003147,-0.006244,-0.002064,0.008822,0.007425,-0.019558,0.005448,-0.003142,-0.027013,-0.02533,-0.010387,-0.001479,-0.010363,0.001317
    
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:Average,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9010,0.110408,0.160454,-0.015462,-0.071383,0.029544,-0.038487,-0.003525,0.004154,0.013499,0.056129,0.018025,0.017235,-0.00223,-0.00234,-0.023208,-0.005038,0.031553,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004002,-0.006613,0.003215,-0.016145,-0.007109,-0.003113
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
    Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041,0.110408,0.15436,-0.006034,-0.068476,0.020004,-0.021475,-0.00282,0.000923,0.007976,0.042097,0.003248,0.016036,-0.019326,-0.008533,-0.016015,-0.002387,0.021122,0.006588,0.010182,-0.002876,-0.006364,0.016199,0.001356,0.006386,-0.00491
    
    Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,0.118376,0.158423,-0.009051,-0.0670225,0.0252355,-0.027889,0.001645,-0.005077,0.0049085,0.042552,0.002842,0.01124,-0.016873,0.003578,-0.018526,-0.0157785,0.0035855,0.0003805,0.004588,-0.0126935,-0.008298,0.001546,0.001664,0.0071095,-0.008502
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    Sardinia_EBA_IA:Sardinia:ORC002,0.119514,0.17264,0.035826,-0.05168,0.074168,-0.026495,-0.00047,-0.001154,0.046631,0.089296,-0.00406,0.020382,-0.038949,-0.013625,-0.016829,-0.007425,0.007823,-0.000127,-0.001885,-0.013632,-0.003619,0.005935,-0.010106,-0.034342,-0.000958
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    Early_Slav_EMA:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
    
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    Can a moderator delete this thread please? I've made some mistakes here and i have better models now. It might mislead people.

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    Do not pay too much attention to the academic ‘Cypriot’ samples in the G25. Their sample size is only eight, they lack ethnic information and contain three outliers that cluster far outside of normal variation: one of them seems to have a Western European grandparent, the other is a Maronite and another seems to be of mixed background or Turkish. There is quite a bit of information out there regarding the differences between the Greek and Turkish communities on the island: the latter has additional influence from Central Asia, North Africa and sub-Saharan Africa from the Ottoman era. So it should go without saying that not providing the most basic ethnic information about the academic samples and then creating a genomic average for an island of Cyprus’ character is going to lead to issues regarding ancestry proportions. You can see the differences between the two main communities in this Eurogenes K15 PCA (blue =Greek, red = Turkish):

    Attachment 13049

    Since then, Pierre Zalloua and Nassim Taleb have conducted a study titled “Autosomal genetics and Y-chromosome haplogroup L1b-M317 reveal Mount Lebanon Maronites as a persistently non-emigrating population” that provided a further sixteen Cypriot samples. These new samples are visibly different from the academic ones. We can be confident that these samples are ethnic Greek from the south of the island because the study set out to test populations that were perceived as similar to the Greek Orthodox Lebanese, and they are also pretty much identical to three confirmed Greek samples that I already have from a friend. That brings us to nineteen samples.

    Here is a run using basic components from the Mesolithic, Neolithic and Early Bronze Ages to model the nineteen Cypriot Greek samples:

    Target Distance Barcin_N CHG Ganj_Dareh_N Han Natufian Yamnaya_Samara
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP15 0.03955599 54.8 13.3 14.6 0.0 11.7 5.6
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP19 0.02500988 56.7 7.3 17.3 0.0 9.5 9.2
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP20 0.02334395 51.1 10.4 15.6 0.0 12.3 10.6
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP22 0.02767355 50.3 11.3 11.5 0.0 15.7 11.2
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP25 0.03316004 54.8 10.9 17.1 0.0 12.4 4.8
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP27 0.02339375 54.9 11.6 14.5 0.3 11.9 6.8
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP30 0.03687956 59.7 16.1 15.4 0.6 6.9 1.3
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP32 0.02858329 53.0 14.7 9.2 0.0 15.0 8.1
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP34 0.03233670 50.5 13.5 13.3 0.0 15.7 7.0
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP35 0.02803811 54.6 11.2 12.3 0.0 13.5 8.4
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP37 0.03575136 56.0 12.6 15.7 0.0 9.4 6.3
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP39 0.03077750 56.4 8.3 14.5 0.0 9.9 10.9
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP41 0.03537919 49.2 12.8 12.7 0.0 14.0 11.3
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP42 0.04053922 55.1 9.4 16.5 0.0 10.8 8.2
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP45 0.03037684 53.4 12.4 10.8 0.0 13.2 10.2
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP46 0.04274306 52.6 16.3 11.8 0.0 13.5 5.8
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP47 0.02822591 52.4 13.4 13.6 0.0 13.0 7.6
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP48 0.03938399 54.1 11.0 15.2 0.0 13.6 6.1
    Greek_Cyprus:CYP49 0.02411567 51.7 16.0 11.5 0.0 12.9 7.9
    Average 0.03185619 53.8 12.2 13.8 0.0 12.4 7.8

    Here is a run using Chalcolithic, Bronze and Iron Age samples from Greece, Anatolia, the Caucasus and Levant against the Cypriot Greek average:

    Target: Greek_Cyprus
    Distance: 1.2961% / 0.01296059
    47.2 GRC_Mycenaean_&_Empuries
    27.8 Levant_Sidon_MBA
    13.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    11.8 AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LC
    0.0 TUR_Alalakh_MLBA
    0.0 TUR_Ovaoren_EBA

    Using more proximate and likely sources that take into account the type of genetic profiles that would have been intermixing and assimilating in the Greek world during the Hellenistic, Roman and Eastern Roman (Byzantine) eras:

    Target: Greek_Cyprus
    Distance: 0.3983% / 0.00398304
    29.8 Levant_Beirut_ERoman
    17.8 GRC_Mycenaean_&_Empuries
    17.0 Greek_Cappadocia
    16.2 Greek_Crete
    14.4 Greek_Dodecanese
    4.8 Greek_Pontus

    Here are the fifteen closest modern and ancient populations to the average:


    Distance to: Greek_Cyprus
    0.01201926 Cypriot
    0.02020855 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    0.02022512 Greek_Dodecanese
    0.02316250 Greek_Kos
    0.02355401 Romaniote_Jew
    0.02470151 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
    0.02719686 Greek_Central_Anatolia
    0.02848635 IND_Roopkund_B_o
    0.02868874 Syrian_Jew
    0.02937572 TUR_Ovaoren_EBA
    0.02950149 Greek_Cappadocia
    0.03068484 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
    0.03285670 Italian_Jew
    0.03292728 Sephardic_Jew
    0.03305581 Levant_Ashkelon_IA1

    And finally, a PCA chart that shows the genetic variation within present-day Greeks based on their geography; including the Ancient Greeks (four Mycenaeans and two Classical Greeks), as well as the Helladic, Cycladic and Minoan peoples of the Bronze Age Aegean:

    Greek world PCA.jpg

    Summary:

    • Cypriot Greeks derive between ~40-50% of their autosomal ancestry from Mycenaean-like Ancient Greeks that colonized the island during the Late Bronze and Early Iron Ages (on average).
    • Their closest modern populations are Dodecanesian and Central Anatolian Greeks, as well as Balkan, Italian and Sephardic Jews. They are also quite close to Cretans, Lebanese Christians and Calabrian Italians.
    • Their closest ancient populations are Imperial Romans, East Roman Greeks, Hittites and Philistines.
    • They are most likely descended from a mosaic of Ancient Greek and Hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine-era Greek-speaking peoples from Anatolia, the Caucasus and Levant.
    • They are a Greco-Roman population in a true sense: genetically, culturally and linguistically.
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    What are the two classical Greeks? Is that the one from Empuries? What is the other one?
    Did you use the two Thessalians from the Middle Bronze Age (Log 1 and Log 2)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTG View Post
    Do not pay too much attention to the academic ‘Cypriot’ samples in the G25. Their sample size is only eight, they lack ethnic information and contain three outliers that cluster far outside of normal variation: one of them seems to have a Western European grandparent, the other is a Maronite and another seems to be of mixed background or Turkish. There is quite a bit of information out there regarding the differences between the Greek and Turkish communities on the island: the latter has additional influence from Central Asia, North Africa and sub-Saharan Africa from the Ottoman era. So it should go without saying that not providing the most basic ethnic information about the academic samples and then creating a genomic average for an island of Cyprus’ character is going to lead to issues regarding ancestry proportions. You can see the differences between the two main communities in this Eurogenes K15 PCA (blue =Greek, red = Turkish):

    Attachment 13049

    Since then, Pierre Zalloua and Nassim Taleb have conducted a study titled “Autosomal genetics and Y-chromosome haplogroup L1b-M317 reveal Mount Lebanon Maronites as a persistently non-emigrating population” that provided a further sixteen Cypriot samples. These new samples are visibly different from the academic ones. We can be confident that these samples are ethnic Greek from the south of the island because the study set out to test populations that were perceived as similar to the Greek Orthodox Lebanese, and they are also pretty much identical to three confirmed Greek samples that I already have from a friend. That brings us to nineteen samples.
    I think i also used the same samples as you but i added extra Greek Cypriot cords that people sent me.

    Here are my new models
    Code:
    Target: Greek_Cypriot Distance: 0.6082% / 0.00608181 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    34.2 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    31.0 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    30.4 Levant_Bronze_Age
    4.4 Early_Medieval_Slav
    Target: Turk_Cypriot Distance: 0.7272% / 0.00727248 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    38.6 Levant_Bronze_Age
    30.4 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    22.6 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    4.0 Early_Medieval_Slav
    3.4 Early_Turcoman
    1.0 African
    Target: Greek_Dodecanese Distance: 0.7152% / 0.00715171 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    45.4 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    31.8 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    13.8 Levant_Bronze_Age
    9.0 Early_Medieval_Slav
    Target: Greek_Crete Distance: 0.6120% / 0.00612037 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.6 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    27.8 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    16.2 Early_Medieval_Slav
    15.0 Levant_Bronze_Age
    0.4 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    Target: Greek_Laconia Distance: 0.8785% / 0.00878499 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    36.0 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    30.4 Levant_Bronze_Age
    25.6 Early_Medieval_Slav
    8.0 Italia_Iron_Age
    Target: Greek_Peloponnese Distance: 0.8597% / 0.00859733 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.0 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    20.0 Early_Medieval_Slav
    18.8 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    12.2 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    9.0 Levant_Bronze_Age
    Target: Greek_Thessaly Distance: 0.9250% / 0.00925038 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    41.2 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    23.8 Early_Medieval_Slav
    17.4 Levant_Bronze_Age
    12.6 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    5.0 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia Distance: 0.7119% / 0.00711873 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    31.4 Early_Medieval_Slav
    30.0 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    19.0 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    13.0 Levant_Bronze_Age
    6.6 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    Target: Bulgaria Distance: 1.1963% / 0.01196257 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    39.4 Early_Medieval_Slav
    30.2 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    11.8 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    11.6 Italia_Iron_Age
    7.0 Levant_Bronze_Age
    Target: Turkish_Northwest Distance: 0.8663% / 0.00866317 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    41.4 Early_Turcoman
    35.0 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    12.4 Early_Medieval_Slav
    11.0 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    0.2 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    Target: Turkish_Southwest Distance: 1.0610% / 0.01061028 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.4 Early_Turcoman
    36.4 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    11.2 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    9.0 Italia_Iron_Age
    3.0 Levant_Bronze_Age
    Target: Turkish_Central Distance: 1.1420% / 0.01141951 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    54.4 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    25.6 Early_Turcoman
    11.0 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    7.0 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    2.0 Early_Medieval_Slav
    Target: Greek_Cappadocia Distance: 1.1121% / 0.01112139 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    76.8 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    9.0 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    9.0 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    5.2 Early_Medieval_Slav
    Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia Distance: 0.9856% / 0.00985639 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    73.4 Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern
    10.4 Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron
    10.0 Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age
    6.2 Early_Medieval_Slav
    Source:
    Code:
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    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208,0.1161,0.158423,-0.017348,-0.06783,0.026774,-0.032351,-0.00282,-0.001154,0.007158,0.04319,0.003573,0.015586,-0.017096,0.006468,-0.016965,-0.02559,-0.007693,-0.000253,0.00993,-0.017133,-0.003494,0.000866,0.005053,0.00241,-0.010538
    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215,0.120652,0.158423,-0.000754,-0.066215,0.023697,-0.023427,0.00611,-0.009,0.002659,0.041914,0.002111,0.006894,-0.01665,0.000688,-0.020087,-0.005967,0.014864,0.001014,-0.000754,-0.008254,-0.013102,0.002226,-0.001725,0.011809,-0.006466
    
    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:GRC_Mycenaean:Average,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:GRC_Mycenaean:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:GRC_Mycenaean:I9010,0.110408,0.160454,-0.015462,-0.071383,0.029544,-0.038487,-0.003525,0.004154,0.013499,0.056129,0.018025,0.017235,-0.00223,-0.00234,-0.023208,-0.005038,0.031553,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004002,-0.006613,0.003215,-0.016145,-0.007109,-0.003113
    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
    Greek_Mycenaean_Bronze/Empuries2_Iron:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041,0.110408,0.15436,-0.006034,-0.068476,0.020004,-0.021475,-0.00282,0.000923,0.007976,0.042097,0.003248,0.016036,-0.019326,-0.008533,-0.016015,-0.002387,0.021122,0.006588,0.010182,-0.002876,-0.006364,0.016199,0.001356,0.006386,-0.00491
    
    Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.01169,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
    Thracian/Illyrian_Iron_Age:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
    
    Italia_Iron_Age:Latium_IA:Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021,0.126344,0.152329,0.034318,-0.014535,0.054164,-0.01506,-0.001175,0.005307,0.019634,0.041914,0.005196,0.01079,-0.011001,-0.005643,0.004479,-0.016441,-0.010822,-0.001394,0.006662,-0.01113,0.007736,0.007172,-0.007641,-0.00241,0.008981
    Italia_Iron_Age:Latium_IA:Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016,0.127482,0.147252,0.033187,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
    Italia_Iron_Age:Prenestini_tribe_Italy_IA,0.12862,0.145221,0.04714,0.005491,0.046162,0.00251,-0.00282,0.002769,0.021475,0.039727,-0.002923,0.012289,-0.021407,-0.016239,0.012622,0.000398,-0.003129,0.003421,0.00176,-0.001251,0.004492,0.003586,-0.00456,-0.003976,0.000239
    
    Early_Medieval_Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
    
    Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA,0.1032945,0.1546142,-0.0594908,-0.089552,-0.0198495,-0.0290045,0.0017625,-0.010615,-0.0177422,0.012483,0.0054808,0.0017985,-0.005649,0.003888,-0.0106202,-0.0020882,0.0073667,0.0017735,0.0029852,0.0010945,-0.001435,0.004235,-0.0016332,-0.0043682,-0.000509
    Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA:ART001,0.093335,0.157407,-0.060339,-0.106268,-0.014156,-0.034025,-0.000705,-0.012923,-0.004704,0.015308,0.006496,-0.006444,0.006541,0.001651,-0.018187,0.002652,0.004694,0.00228,0.004777,0,0.001747,0.001731,-0.01023,0.001325,0.005508
    Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA:ART009,0.108132,0.150298,-0.056568,-0.084303,-0.023081,-0.03765,0.003055,-0.007384,-0.020861,0.008018,0.004547,0.002698,-0.005352,-0.00055,-0.008007,0.006762,0.02047,-0.003801,0.002891,0.008129,-0.004118,0.002844,-0.001602,-0.004097,0.002634
    Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA:ART010,0.102441,0.158423,-0.062979,-0.084626,-0.02185,-0.02008,0.00517,-0.005077,-0.022293,0.015672,0.000325,0.007943,-0.010852,0.008808,-0.005972,-0.013524,-0.003781,0.008235,0.000628,-0.002751,0.000499,0.005193,0.005176,-0.005784,-0.012214
    Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern:TUR_Arslantepe_EBA:ART011,0.10927,0.152329,-0.058077,-0.083011,-0.020311,-0.024263,-0.00047,-0.017076,-0.023111,0.010934,0.010555,0.002997,-0.012933,0.005643,-0.010315,-0.004243,0.008084,0.00038,0.003645,-0.001,-0.003868,0.007172,0.000123,-0.008917,0.002036
    
    Anatolia_Bronze_Age/Assyrian_Modern:Assyrian,0.0978879,0.1320187,-0.0621905,-0.0623096,-0.0319779,-0.017342,0.005811,-0.0057269,-0.0245056,-0.0037937,0.0042368,-0.0014715,0.0047166,-0.0003002,-0.0027515,0.0080879,-0.0006045,0.0011402,0.001177,-0.0050024,-0.0027792,0.0023155,-0.000112,-0.0025524,0.0028523
    
    Levant_Bronze_Age:SYR_Ebla_EMBA,0.0919897,0.1485443,-0.0651733,-0.095432,-0.0144361,-0.0369149,-0.0034183,-0.0085171,0.0012643,0.0095922,0.0093005,-0.0033243,0.0091225,-3.75e-05,-0.0105985,0.0009522,-0.0016595,0.000691,0.0035425,-0.0003752,0.0012025,0.0049575,-0.0019272,-0.0025085,-0.0002941
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Sidon_MBA,0.0812696,0.1468454,-0.0613196,-0.0979336,-0.0105248,-0.0389334,-0.0047942,-0.0065998,0.0114534,0.0101686,0.0104904,-0.0097712,0.0215854,0.005505,-0.0075734,0.0065234,-0.0001562,-0.0011906,0.0015086,0.004252,0.0042674,0.007543,-0.0012572,0.0015906,-0.0005028
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790729,0.087644,0.147252,-0.067505,-0.097546,-0.017849,-0.041834,-0.003525,-0.009,0.008999,0.008018,0.021273,-0.007343,0.022002,0.007432,-0.011401,0.000928,-0.011604,-0.002027,0.004777,0.014132,0.011355,0.018548,-0.000123,-0.006145,0.005868
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790730,0.084229,0.146236,-0.056945,-0.091732,-0.008309,-0.043786,-0.00658,-0.000923,0.005522,0.005467,0.01088,-0.008243,0.014569,0.000275,-0.012079,0.016574,0.011735,0.003674,-0.001131,0.005628,0.001622,0.005688,-0.003328,0.008194,-0.002155
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790731,0.079676,0.153345,-0.057699,-0.100453,-0.003693,-0.041834,-0.00564,-0.006,0.017794,0.010387,0.007795,-0.017534,0.029137,0.000688,-0.008958,0.009679,0.000913,-0.006714,0.005405,-0.005628,0.001248,0.00507,0.006286,0.004097,0.000599
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790732,0.075123,0.150298,-0.060716,-0.097223,-0.007078,-0.037929,-0.012456,-0.009692,0.017385,0.015126,0.009094,-0.005245,0.021407,0.007432,-0.002307,0.000928,-0.003129,-0.00228,0.001257,0.002001,0.001996,0.002597,-0.00037,0.000843,-0.003832
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733,0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
    Levant_Bronze_Age:ISR:Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8,0.080814,0.145221,-0.066373,-0.101422,-0.021542,-0.029562,-0.003055,-0.012923,0.003272,0.002005,0.012179,-0.008393,0.019475,0.003303,0.001086,0.010872,-0.00339,0.001394,0.007668,-0.003627,0.006988,0.001731,0,0.000241,0.003473
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    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Megiddo_IA,0.084229,0.150298,-0.060716,-0.091409,-0.014464,-0.044623,-0.00517,-0.005077,0.011658,0.006014,0.012179,-0.007343,0.019177,0.006193,-0.002307,0.002254,-0.026207,0.005828,0.00729,-0.005753,0.001622,-0.002226,-0.006162,-0.000843,-0.005987
    Levant_Bronze_Age:Levant_Megiddo_IBA,0.078538,0.152329,-0.058077,-0.112405,0.001846,-0.044344,-0.01034,-0.009,0.030883,0.00164,0.012829,-0.013038,0.026016,-0.001651,-0.008686,0.013259,-0.005085,0.008868,-0.000126,0.001751,-0.000624,0.006059,-0.008134,0.000241,-0.004431
    
    Saudi_Modern,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
    
    South_Levant_EBA:Arabian_Bedouins:Levant_JOR_EBA:I1706,0.071709,0.139128,-0.062225,-0.111113,-0.008001,-0.043507,-0.011751,-0.015692,0.041723,0.009476,0.013316,-0.019782,0.049653,-0.00523,0.000814,0.028639,-0.000522,-0.00038,-0.001131,0.020135,0.006364,0.012489,-0.00419,0.003133,-0.002036
    
    Egypt_780bc,0.050082,0.146744,-0.042426,-0.1183805,-0.0020005,-0.049782,-0.015628,-0.004731,0.0474495,0.006196,0.0090125,-0.011465,0.029732,-0.005849,-0.0008145,-0.0020555,-0.0074315,-0.0019635,-0.0035195,0.0120055,0.005615,0.0016695,0.0036355,0.003916,-0.0005985
    
    Early_Turcoman:Turkmen_Uzbekistan:reaveraged,0.081725,-0.0645876,-0.0030922,-0.0025194,-0.0417308,-0.0044622,0.0094944,0.0095534,-0.0140304,-0.0129388,-0.0070478,-0.003387,0.0014866,-0.0080096,0.0029316,0.005993,-0.0049024,0.0019256,-0.0000752,-0.0021762,-0.0089342,-0.004303,-0.0035004,0.0007954,0.003353
    Late_Turcoman:KAZ_Karakhanid,0.065638,-0.1736557,0.0275297,0.005168,-0.0478037,-0.0065073,0.0060317,0.0012307,-0.0116577,-0.0121493,-0.017484,-0.004496,0.0026263,-0.009909,0.009772,0.004552,-0.0069973,0.000718,0.002053,0.0020427,-0.012894,0.003215,-0.0048477,-0.0045787,-0.00475
    Late_Turcoman:KAZ_Karluk,0.0631715,-0.151822,0.0173475,-0.0008075,-0.0467775,-0.0029285,0.004935,0.01223,-0.016055,-0.010205,-0.020055,-0.000824,0,-0.0026835,0.0107895,-0.0039115,-0.0137555,0.004181,0.0072905,-0.0019385,-0.0099825,-0.002164,-0.001479,-0.0019885,0.004071
    Late_Turcoman:KAZ_Kipchak,0.0705705,-0.1269415,0.0273415,0.0046835,-0.039546,-0.00502,0.00564,0.013961,-0.003784,-0.007836,-0.012991,0.000225,0.0037165,-0.005092,0.000746,0.010607,0.007497,-0.0023435,0.005845,0.005065,-0.0101695,0.000742,-0.0027115,0.0013255,-0.002455
    
    African:Kenya_Pastorial_IA:KEN_Pastoral_IA,-0.4120395,0.080227,-0.015085,-0.0437665,0.002308,-0.026913,-0.009753,0.005884,0.107068,-0.086744,-0.016807,0.0037465,-0.018954,0.0026145,0.0211725,-0.0235345,0.014994,-0.00057,0.014581,-0.011693,0.0016225,0.00915,-0.005238,-0.001627,-0.0011375
    African:Nilotic_Dinka_Modern:Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0096995
    
    African:Masai,-0.4390726,0.0761646,-0.0113606,-0.0358126,-0.0048085,-0.0186506,-0.0065801,0.0041826,0.0979414,-0.089979,-0.0168479,0.005826,-0.0256252,-0.001187,0.0118755,-0.0181648,0.022915,-0.0056376,0.0184462,-0.0199158,-0.0011699,-0.0001235,-0.0053612,-0.0033435,0.0049845
    African:Sandawe,-0.468382,0.0700715,-0.004714,-0.0230945,0.000769,-0.0139445,0.029141,-0.024576,0.058187,-0.0484745,-0.00138,0.0004495,-0.0156095,-0.0049545,0.003868,0.0017235,0.015581,0.0298985,-0.009616,-0.0015005,-0.00418,0.0004945,-0.004252,-0.003133,0.0037125
    African:Hadza,-0.5003664,0.0530108,-0.0032432,-0.0024548,0.0010464,-0.0057452,0.0615258,-0.0505364,0.0706426,-0.0641472,-0.009581,-3e-05,-0.0248562,-0.0036058,0.0133004,-0.0189072,0.0198706,0.031647,0.0015588,-0.0074286,-0.005141,0.005886,-0.0020954,-0.0027474,0.0041672
    
    African:Khomani_San,-0.6220435,0.060424,0.02093,0.030039,-0.0004615,0.000837,0.236773,-0.1823,0.0185095,0.0067425,0.00203,-0.053952,-0.0211845,0.005505,0.018797,-0.0212805,0.029662,0.2623085,-0.0877375,0.001751,-0.0331915,-0.002844,0.0038205,-0.0050005,0.0016765
    African:Bantu_S.W.,-0.6222873,0.0658643,0.018425,0.0160116,0.0006156,0.0075699,0.0014437,0.0089336,-0.0274354,0.0172863,0.0028534,-0.0046459,-0.0030369,0.001966,-0.0051573,0.004887,-0.0033901,0.0217903,-0.0106846,0.0037876,-0.0011764,0.0004591,0.0014964,0.0002411,-0.0005471
    
    African:Bantu_S.E.,-0.6293153,0.0637527,0.0201969,0.0178368,-0.0011624,0.0094514,0.0293503,-0.0129994,-0.0214296,0.0114607,0.0024178,-0.007793,-0.0111991,0.0022937,-0.009817,0.0063643,-0.0051864,0.0603178,-0.0249161,0.0034739,-0.0041872,-0.0009891,0.0023414,0.0010041,-0.0004392
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    African:South_Africa_150bc:ZAF_2100BP:I9028,-0.639686,0.058901,0.025644,0.041344,-0.00277,-0.002789,0.267912,-0.20653,0.011658,0.016766,0.002761,-0.06744,-0.01888,0.005092,0.026058,-0.013392,0.031944,0.289737,-0.092137,0.003752,-0.035188,-0.000495,0.002835,-0.000843,-0.00934

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    What are the two classical Greeks? Is that the one from Empuries? What is the other one?
    Did you use the two Thessalians from the Middle Bronze Age (Log 1 and Log 2)?
    We don't know if those Log samples contributed directly to modern Greeks. They could have been the ancestors of Mycenaeans before their Steppe DNA got diluted.

    I'm pretty sure he used the Empuries2 samples from around 450-100bc and Mycenaean from the Bronze Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknowwhatimdoing View Post
    Target: Greek_Cypriot (I added Andreas in the Greek_Cypriot average)
    Distance: 0.8998% / 0.00899840 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    45.2 Levant_BA
    31.0 Aegean_BA_IA
    23.8 Anatolia_BA

    Target: Andreas_scaled (Greek Cypriot)
    Distance: 1.0053% / 0.01005284 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.0 Aegean_BA_IA
    33.4 Levant_BA
    26.6 Anatolia_BA

    Target: Greek_Dodecanese (Average)
    38,1 Aegean_BA_IA
    32,9 Anatolia_BA
    18,7 Levant_BA
    8,3 Balkan_BA_IA
    2.0 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman

    Greek_Dodecanese has 2 models within 0.9-1.1 so i made an average for them.

    Code:


    Target: Greek_Dodecanese
    Distance: 1.0084% / 0.01008353 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    34.6 Aegean_BA_IA
    33.6 Anatolia_BA
    18.8 Levant_BA
    10.4 Balkan_BA_IA
    2.6 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman

    Target: Greek_Dodecanese
    Distance: 1.0805% / 0.01080475 | ADC: 0.25x
    41.6 Aegean_BA_IA
    32.2 Anatolia_BA
    18.6 Levant_BA
    6.2 Balkan_BA_IA
    1.4 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman
    Target: Greek_CreteDistance: 0.8897% / 0.00889698 | ADC: 0.25x43.2 Aegean_BA_IA25.0 Levant_BA18.2 Anatolia_BA11.0 Balkan_BA_IA2.6 Early_Slav_EMATarget: Greek_Kos (Average)38.4 Anatolia_BA30.2 Aegean_BA_IA18.5 Balkan_BA_IA12.6 Levant_BAThe 2 Kos models below are not within 0.9-1.1 distance so i made an average for them.Kos code:Code:
    Target: Greek_Kos
    Distance: 0.8356% / 0.00835636 | R4P | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.6 Anatolia_BA
    26.8 Balkan_BA_IA
    17.6 Aegean_BA_IA
    15.0 Levant_BA

    Target: Greek_Kos
    Distance: 1.3623% / 0.01362271 | ADC: 0.5x
    42.8 Aegean_BA_IA
    36.2 Anatolia_BA
    10.8 Levant_BA
    10.2 Balkan_BA_IA
    Target: Greek_PeloponneseDistance: 1.0902% / 0.01090237 | ADC: 0.25x49.2 Aegean_BA_IA21.0 Levant_BA19.4 Balkan_BA_IA10.4 Early_Slav_EMATarget:
    Greek_LaconiaDistance: 1.0081% / 0.01008117 | R4P | ADC: 0.5x RC44.4 Aegean_BA_IA28.2 Levant_BA27.4 Early_Slav_EMATarget:
    Greek_Thessaly (Average)47,1 Aegean_BA_IA29,6 Balkan_BA_IA15,1 Levant_BA8,2 Early_Slav_EMAThessaly has 3 models within 0.9-1.1 so i made an average for them.Thessaly:Code:
    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 0.9146% / 0.00914570 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.6 Aegean_BA_IA
    32.6 Balkan_BA_IA
    15.8 Levant_BA
    11.0 Early_Slav_EMA

    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 0.9467% / 0.00946720 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
    42.4 Aegean_BA_IA
    31.0 Balkan_BA_IA
    17.2 Levant_BA
    9.4 Early_Slav_EMA

    Target: Greek_Thessaly
    Distance: 1.1082% / 0.01108211 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x
    58.2 Aegean_BA_IA
    25.2 Balkan_BA_IA
    12.4 Levant_BA
    4.2 Early_Slav_EMA
    Target: Greek_MacedoniaDistance: 0.9645% / 0.00964541 | ADC: 0.25x RC47.2 Aegean_BA_IA26.6 Early_Slav_EMA18.0 Levant_BA8.2 Balkan_BA_IATarget: Greek_Central_MacedoniaDistance: 1.1906% / 0.01190626 | ADC: 0.25x40.8 Aegean_BA_IA28.6 Balkan_BA_IA15.4 Early_Slav_EMA15.2 Levant_BATarget: Greek_Central_MacedoniaDistance: 1.1018% / 0.01101751 | ADC: 0.5x RC32.8 Balkan_BA_IA28.0 Aegean_BA_IA19.8 Levant_BA19.4 Early_Slav_EMATarget: Greek_IzmirDistance: 1.0305% / 0.01030514 | ADC: 0.25x38.0 Aegean_BA_IA30.8 Balkan_BA_IA19.6 Levant_BA8.8 Anatolia_BA2.8 Early_Slav_EMA
    Based on your amateur models Early Slavic goes from over 40% in Bulgarians to 20% in Greek Macedonians, and continues to 10 % South of Greek Macedonia and less than 4% or absent in Greek islanders. Yet, there is no correlation between Early Slavic and Balkan IA. Balkan IA is high in almost all Greek populations. Even in Greek populations which are extremely low on Early Slavic, even in islanders and Greeks from Asia Minor. Although Balkan IA is negligible in Cyprus. This indicates to me that Balkan IA and Early Slavic came in different waves in differents periods of time. Balkan IA came early enough to spread in decent numbers in all Greek populations around the Aegean. But it didn't reach Cyprus which as we know was populated by Bronze Age Greeks in considerable numbers. Medieval Slavic came later, during the Middle Ages, and didn't manage to spread in decent numbers in some island populations. Ofcourse no trace at all in Cyprus as well.

    So I see the following pattern:
    1.Aegean BA Greeks (This is a combination of Aegean BA and some degree of Levant. The Bulk of all Greek populations which was established during the Bronze Age)
    2.Balkan IA (second dominant layer absorbed by a migration from the Balkans during and/or after the Iron Age)
    3.a. Early Slav (mostly in the mainland of Greece, only in significant percentages in Greek Macedonia, dominant strain North of Greece)
    b. While Greek islanders and especially Cypriots lack Early Slavic compared to the mainland, they have a good dose of Anatolian BA admixture, absent in the mainland, instead.

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    Target: Luso_scaled
    Distance: 2.6418% / 0.02641777
    37.2 Latium_IA
    27.2 Etruscan_IA
    17.6 Berberes_MA
    16.2 Early_Slav_EMA
    1.8 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman


    Distance to: Luso_scaled
    0.05036623 Latium_IA:Boville_Ernica_IA:RMPR1021
    0.05184282 Etruscan_IA:Etruscan:RMPR473
    0.05674822 Etruscan_IA:ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
    0.06146458 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Helladic_MBA
    0.06189750 Illyria_MBA:HRV_MBA:I4332
    0.06194369 Illyria_MBA:HRV_MBA:I4331
    0.07040363 Latium_IA:Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
    0.08703162 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
    0.08751430 Balkan_East_IA:BGR_IA:I5769
    0.08953528 Ancient_Sicilia_LBA:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876
    0.09013247 Thracia_IA:UKR_Cimmerian_o:MJ12
    0.09611087 Aegean_BA_IA:Helladic_Cycladic_Mix
    0.09919845 Ancient_Sicilia_LBA:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3878
    0.10319353 Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    0.10360820 Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
    0.10373244 Aegean_BA_IA:Hel_Cyc_Min_EBA
    0.10446562 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:Average
    0.10606794 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
    0.10754489 Aegean_BA_IA:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208
    0.10842237 Ancient_Sicilia_LBA:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I10372
    0.11462795 Sardinia_EBA_IA:Sardinia:ORC002
    0.11950460 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9006
    0.12083969 Sardinia_EBA_IA:ITA_Sardinia_EBA
    0.12239320 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Mycenaean:I9010
    0.12545321 Aegean_BA_IA:GRC_Helladic_EBA

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