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    Classical Antiquity (Dodecad K12b)


    I took the vast majority of these specific samples the Antonio et al. 2019 supplement (hence the name). I wanted to create something with ADMIXTURE and another partner. However, things didn't go according to plan.

    Nevertheless, I think this is still a pretty interesting test, and seems to work well on Italian populations. I think it works pretty well for several other populations too, from what I've seen in terms of the fit. However, other populations may not get a good fit, if they have admixture outside of these four components.

    Because Dodecad K12b seems to inflate WHG for some populations at the expense of Steppe, I decided to combine them. Which gives closer to realistic levels, if you use some mental gymnastics.

    Code:
    Anatolia_N:Bar8,0,0,4.96,0,45.12,0,0,0,13.39,0.45,33.88,2.2
    Anatolia_N:Bar31,0,0,4.68,0.92,45.75,0,0,0,14.24,0,31.86,2.55
    Anatolia_N:I0707,0,0,3.82,0,46.96,0,0,0,12.73,0,36,0.5
    Anatolia_N:I0708,0,0,3.45,0.8,42.52,0,0,0,13.71,0,38.72,0.8
    Anatolia_N:I0709,0,0,3.45,0,48.41,0,0,0,14.24,0,33.17,0.72
    Anatolia_N:I0723,0,0,3.8,0,48.97,0,0,0,13.1,0,34.14,0
    Anatolia_N:I0724,0,1.05,4.23,0.77,49.05,2.81,0,0,6.23,0,35.86,0
    Anatolia_N:I0726,0,0,3.52,0,46.26,0,0,0,12.91,0,37.31,0
    Anatolia_N:I0727,0,0,0.15,0,48.13,0,0,0,8.96,0,39.5,3.26
    Anatolia_N:I0736,0,0,4.01,0,47.13,0,0,0.41,15.03,0,33.32,0.1
    Anatolia_N:I0744,0,0,2.91,0,47.83,0,0,0.05,13.81,0.12,34.86,0.42
    Anatolia_N:I0745,0,0,4.13,0.23,44.32,0,0,0,16.4,0,34.52,0.41
    Anatolia_N:I0746,0,0,3.28,0,46.07,0,0,0,14.14,0.04,35.98,0.48
    Anatolia_N:I1096,0,0,4.86,0.57,46.03,0,0,0,12.98,0,35.07,0.49
    Anatolia_N:I1097,0,0,4.69,0,47.66,0,0.09,0.11,14.53,0.09,32.34,0.48
    Anatolia_N:I1098,0,0,3.4,0.04,43.69,0,0,0.1,14.46,0,37.29,1.02
    Anatolia_N:I1099,0,0,6.23,0,45.67,0,0,0,12.75,0.06,34.94,0.35
    Anatolia_N:I1100,0,0,5.75,0,48.38,0,0,0,16.19,0,29.49,0.19
    Anatolia_N:I1101,0,0,6.16,0.42,47.53,0,0,0,15.25,0,30.45,0.19
    Anatolia_N:I1102,0,0,1.6,0,49.87,0,0,0.07,14.98,0,32.7,0.78
    Anatolia_N:I1103,0,0,5.72,0.25,43.21,0,0,0.06,15.99,0,34.1,0.66
    Anatolia_N:I1580,0,0,3.27,0,46.67,0,0,0,15.5,0,33.86,0.7
    Anatolia_N:I1581,0,0,3.99,0.23,47.19,0,0,0.24,15.67,0.1,32.11,0.47
    Anatolia_N:I1583,0,0,5.02,0,45.43,0,0,0,14.23,0.17,34.85,0.3
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122,21.8,6.24,0,0.46,0,69.85,0.91,0,0,0,0,0.74
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0124,6.54,0,0,0,0,73.66,19.8,0,0,0,0,0
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211,4.96,9.39,0,0,0,81.25,4.06,0,0,0,0,0.33
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433,17.98,8.24,0,0,0,72.6,0.73,0,0,0,0,0.45
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0434,38.51,3.38,0,0,0,56.98,0,0,0,0,1.12,0
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:BerryAuBac,0,1.34,0,0,28.57,66.78,0,1.46,0,0.08,0,1.78
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0585_LaBrana1,0,0.36,0,2.58,29.68,63.52,2.95,0,0,0,0,0.91
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I1507_KO1,0,0,0,0.42,26.48,71.19,0,0,0,0.2,0,1.72
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I2158_OrienteC_HG,0,2.21,0,0,29.08,68.37,0,0,0,0,0,0.34
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:Loschbour,0,0,0,0,28.19,69.31,0.76,0,0,1.74,0,0
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:Falkenstein,0,2.36,0,0,32.2,58.74,4.12,0.44,0,0,0,2.14
    EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:Iboussieres-39,0,4.62,0,0,21.2,66.37,6.14,1.67,0,0,0,0
    Iberomaurusian:TAF010,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
    Iberomaurusian:TAF011,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
    Iberomaurusian:TAF013,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
    Iberomaurusian:TAF014,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
    Iran_N/CHG:AH1,66.39,0,0,1.02,0,0.09,7.83,1.19,3.06,0,16.99,3.44
    Iran_N/CHG:AH2,63.99,0,0,2.76,0,0,6.41,2.52,5.04,0,16.65,2.63
    Iran_N/CHG:AH4,63.77,2.47,0,0,0,0,6.51,0.34,7.73,0,15.36,3.81
    Iran_N/CHG:I1290,62.26,0,0,0,0,0,8.22,0,5.92,0,19.16,4.44
    Iran_N/CHG:I1944,74.85,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.67,3.48,4.28,16.72,0
    Iran_N/CHG:I1945,64.46,0,0,0,0,0.49,7.48,1.18,3.59,0,21.22,1.57
    Iran_N/CHG:I1949,62.79,0,0,0,0,0,8.19,3.29,0,0,22.51,3.22
    Iran_N/CHG:I1951,51.13,2.68,0,0,0,4.46,0,0,11.21,0,0,30.52
    Iran_N/CHG:WC1,57.56,0,0,0,0,0,8.04,0.57,6.98,0,23.25,3.6
    Iran_N/CHG:KK1_(Kotias):Jones_2015,38.72,0.69,0,0,0,6.95,0.02,0,0,0,51.67,1.95
    Iran_N/CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015,45.63,0.44,0,0,0,1.74,0.54,0,0,0,49.54,2.11

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    Here are my results for modeling:


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    Here's another version with Anatolia_N and Steppe expanded upon:

    Code:
    Anatolia_N:Bar8,0,0,4.96,0,45.12,0,0,0,13.39,0.45,33.88,2.2
    Anatolia_N:Bar31,0,0,4.68,0.92,45.75,0,0,0,14.24,0,31.86,2.55
    Anatolia_N:I0707,0,0,3.82,0,46.96,0,0,0,12.73,0,36,0.5
    Anatolia_N:I0708,0,0,3.45,0.8,42.52,0,0,0,13.71,0,38.72,0.8
    Anatolia_N:I0709,0,0,3.45,0,48.41,0,0,0,14.24,0,33.17,0.72
    Anatolia_N:I0723,0,0,3.8,0,48.97,0,0,0,13.1,0,34.14,0
    Anatolia_N:I0724,0,1.05,4.23,0.77,49.05,2.81,0,0,6.23,0,35.86,0
    Anatolia_N:I0726,0,0,3.52,0,46.26,0,0,0,12.91,0,37.31,0
    Anatolia_N:I0727,0,0,0.15,0,48.13,0,0,0,8.96,0,39.5,3.26
    Anatolia_N:I0736,0,0,4.01,0,47.13,0,0,0.41,15.03,0,33.32,0.1
    Anatolia_N:I0744,0,0,2.91,0,47.83,0,0,0.05,13.81,0.12,34.86,0.42
    Anatolia_N:I0745,0,0,4.13,0.23,44.32,0,0,0,16.4,0,34.52,0.41
    Anatolia_N:I0746,0,0,3.28,0,46.07,0,0,0,14.14,0.04,35.98,0.48
    Anatolia_N:I1096,0,0,4.86,0.57,46.03,0,0,0,12.98,0,35.07,0.49
    Anatolia_N:I1097,0,0,4.69,0,47.66,0,0.09,0.11,14.53,0.09,32.34,0.48
    Anatolia_N:I1098,0,0,3.4,0.04,43.69,0,0,0.1,14.46,0,37.29,1.02
    Anatolia_N:I1099,0,0,6.23,0,45.67,0,0,0,12.75,0.06,34.94,0.35
    Anatolia_N:I1100,0,0,5.75,0,48.38,0,0,0,16.19,0,29.49,0.19
    Anatolia_N:I1101,0,0,6.16,0.42,47.53,0,0,0,15.25,0,30.45,0.19
    Anatolia_N:I1102,0,0,1.6,0,49.87,0,0,0.07,14.98,0,32.7,0.78
    Anatolia_N:I1103,0,0,5.72,0.25,43.21,0,0,0.06,15.99,0,34.1,0.66
    Anatolia_N:I1580,0,0,3.27,0,46.67,0,0,0,15.5,0,33.86,0.7
    Anatolia_N:I1581,0,0,3.99,0.23,47.19,0,0,0.24,15.67,0.1,32.11,0.47
    Anatolia_N:I1583,0,0,5.02,0,45.43,0,0,0,14.23,0.17,34.85,0.3
    Anatolia_N:Ash002:Yaka_2021,0,1.94,6.33,0,37.51,0,0,1.25,12.09,0,40.88,0
    Anatolia_N:Ash033:Yaka_2021,0,0,6.1,0,25.48,0,0,1.58,23.08,0,43.75,0
    Anatolia_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021,0,0,9.16,0,37.94,0,0,0,2.73,0,46.45,3.73
    Anatolia_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021,0,0,3.15,0.49,40.66,4.48,0,0.49,10.35,0.57,36.38,3.44
    Anatolia_N:Ash129:Yaka_2021,0,0,4.95,0.64,44.13,0.19,0,0,8.97,0.74,39.08,1.29
    Anatolia_N:Ash131:Yaka_2021,0,0,4.59,0,45.65,0.42,0,0,11.35,0,37.99,0
    Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021,0,0,2.3,0.55,43.73,4.22,0,1,10.43,0,36.62,1.15
    Anatolia_N:Ash136:Yaka_2021,0,0,3.54,0,42.23,0.19,0,0,12.28,0,38.05,3.71
    Anatolia_N:CCH144:Yaka_2021,0.25,0,2.92,0,29.41,0,0,0,17.31,0.38,47.4,2.33
    Anatolia_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021,0,1.43,3.99,0,41.17,0,0,0,13.58,0,39.81,0
    Anatolia_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021,0,0,6.23,0,47.83,0,0,0.25,12.72,0,31.83,1.14
    Anatolia_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021,0,0,3.5,0,37.83,0,0,0,14.97,1.39,41.06,1.26
    Anatolia_N:CCH290:Yaka_2021,0,0,1.17,1.6,45.08,0,0,2.05,0,0,49.79,0.31
    Anatolia_N:CCH294:Yaka_2021,0,0.03,6.54,0,33.4,0,0,2.59,15.09,0,42.13,0.21
    Anatolia_N:CCH311:Yaka_2021,0,0,1.74,0,44.32,0,0,1.06,15.76,0,35.78,1.34
    Anatolia_N:cth006:Yaka_2021,0,0,4.77,0,27.06,0,0,1.51,33.04,0,33.62,0
    Anatolia_N:cth217:Yaka_2021,0,0,0,0,40.55,0,0,0,16.71,0,42.73,0
    Anatolia_N:cth728:Yaka_2021,0,2.85,0,0,36.45,0,0,0,14.9,0,45.3,0.49
    Anatolia_N:cth739:Yaka_2021,0,0,0.52,0.8,37.47,0,0,1.24,14.55,0.16,43.76,1.49
    Anatolia_N:cth747:Yaka_2021,0,0,0,0,33.04,2.77,0,1.23,15.25,0.45,47.27,0
    Anatolia_N:cth842:Yaka_2021,0,0,0,6.83,49.59,0,0,1.68,5.4,0,36.5,0
    Anatolia_N:pch034:Yaka_2021,0,0,0.64,0.09,36.89,0,0,0,16.99,0,43.91,1.48
    Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122,21.8,6.24,0,0.46,0,69.85,0.91,0,0,0,0,0.74
    Steppe/Euro_HG:I0124,6.54,0,0,0,0,73.66,19.8,0,0,0,0,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211,4.96,9.39,0,0,0,81.25,4.06,0,0,0,0,0.33
    Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433,17.98,8.24,0,0,0,72.6,0.73,0,0,0,0,0.45
    Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0434,38.51,3.38,0,0,0,56.98,0,0,0,0,1.12,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:BerryAuBac,0,1.34,0,0,28.57,66.78,0,1.46,0,0.08,0,1.78
    Steppe/Euro_HG:I0585_LaBrana1,0,0.36,0,2.58,29.68,63.52,2.95,0,0,0,0,0.91
    Steppe/Euro_HG:I1507_KO1,0,0,0,0.42,26.48,71.19,0,0,0,0.2,0,1.72
    Steppe/Euro_HG:I2158_OrienteC_HG,0,2.21,0,0,29.08,68.37,0,0,0,0,0,0.34
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Loschbour,0,0,0,0,28.19,69.31,0.76,0,0,1.74,0,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Falkenstein,0,2.36,0,0,32.2,58.74,4.12,0.44,0,0,0,2.14
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Iboussieres-39,0,4.62,0,0,21.2,66.37,6.14,1.67,0,0,0,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015,26.6,1.31,0,0,7.93,64.16,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015,22.07,0,0,0,0,70.45,0,0,0,0,7.49,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015,26.54,0,0,0,10.09,63.38,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015,27.76,0,0.93,0,3.91,65.86,0,0,0,0,1.35,0.19
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015,23.64,0.86,0,0,9.61,64.98,0.74,0,0,0,0,0.17
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015,30.94,1.6,0,0.01,2.06,61.11,0.39,0,0,0,3.1,0.78
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015,28.48,2.19,0,0,1.43,59.76,2.73,0,0,0,4.53,0.89
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015,31.45,0.86,0,0.77,4.05,54.56,2.22,0,0,0,6.09,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015,24.66,6.11,0,0,0,59.29,0,0,0,0,9.32,0.62
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015,26.2,3.3,0,0,2.84,64.62,2.03,0,0,0,0,1
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015,23.9,4.62,0,0,0,60.95,1.32,0.31,0,0,8.64,0.26
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0439_SVP52:Haak_2015,22.28,1.63,0,0,12.89,54.54,0.24,0,0,0,8.41,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0441_SVP54:Haak_2015,33.48,1.54,0,0,0,56.53,8.46,0,0,0,0,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015,28.03,2.76,0,0,5.5,59.49,0,0,0,0,3.22,1
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015,30.94,0.57,0,0,3.61,59.43,0,0.11,0,0,2.51,2.83
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:MJ-06:Jarve_2019,25.85,2.18,0,0,7.49,54.14,0,0.01,0,0,7.93,2.4
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I1917:Mathieson_2018,25.24,1.78,0,0.15,8.03,36.55,0.44,0,0.38,0,25.75,1.68
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018,25.39,2.85,0,0,1.94,58.76,1.17,0,0,0,8.18,1.72
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018,24.66,4.21,0,0,2.47,64.51,1.21,0,0,0,2.93,0
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Caucasus:RK1001:Wang_2019,29.25,3.69,0,0,4.17,55.21,1.32,0,0,0,4.74,1.63
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Caucasus:RK1007:Wang_2019,29.12,2.38,0,0,0,53.66,5.51,0,0,0,8.72,0.61
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Caucasus:ZO2002:Wang_2019,24.68,1.61,0,0.12,1.44,56.77,2.24,0,0,0,12.3,0.85
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0231:Mathieson_2015,29.21,3.13,0,0,3.94,57.21,2.44,0,0,0,3.33,0.75
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0357:Mathieson_2015,30.56,1.4,0,0,7.38,54.65,1.41,0,0,0,4.49,0.12
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0370:Mathieson_2015,30.97,3.96,0,0,4.88,57.16,0.12,0,0,0,1.92,0.99
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0429:Mathieson_2015,28.47,1.92,0,0,3.71,62.57,0.96,0.21,0,0,1.45,0.7
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0438:Mathieson_2015,26.82,1.54,0,0.39,0.6,60.83,1.8,0,0,0,7.77,0.25
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0439:Mathieson_2015,24.1,0.47,0,0.94,8.87,55.96,2.12,0,0,0,7.16,0.37
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0441:Mathieson_2015,33.85,2.03,0,0.21,1.48,59.11,2.63,0,0,0,0,0.69
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0443:Mathieson_2015,29.61,2.46,0,0,3.67,58.66,0.07,0,0,0,4.84,0.69
    Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0444:Mathieson_2015,29.41,1.68,0,0,6.52,59.52,0.6,0.02,0,0,1.07,1.19
    Iberomaurusian:TAF010,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
    Iberomaurusian:TAF011,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
    Iberomaurusian:TAF013,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
    Iberomaurusian:TAF014,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
    Iran_N/CHG:AH1,66.39,0,0,1.02,0,0.09,7.83,1.19,3.06,0,16.99,3.44
    Iran_N/CHG:AH2,63.99,0,0,2.76,0,0,6.41,2.52,5.04,0,16.65,2.63
    Iran_N/CHG:AH4,63.77,2.47,0,0,0,0,6.51,0.34,7.73,0,15.36,3.81
    Iran_N/CHG:I1290,62.26,0,0,0,0,0,8.22,0,5.92,0,19.16,4.44
    Iran_N/CHG:I1944,74.85,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.67,3.48,4.28,16.72,0
    Iran_N/CHG:I1945,64.46,0,0,0,0,0.49,7.48,1.18,3.59,0,21.22,1.57
    Iran_N/CHG:I1949,62.79,0,0,0,0,0,8.19,3.29,0,0,22.51,3.22
    Iran_N/CHG:I1951,51.13,2.68,0,0,0,4.46,0,0,11.21,0,0,30.52
    Iran_N/CHG:WC1,57.56,0,0,0,0,0,8.04,0.57,6.98,0,23.25,3.6
    Iran_N/CHG:KK1_(Kotias):Jones_2015,38.72,0.69,0,0,0,6.95,0.02,0,0,0,51.67,1.95
    Iran_N/CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015,45.63,0.44,0,0,0,1.74,0.54,0,0,0,49.54,2.11

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    I wonder what ethnicities are closer than I am to Anatolia Neolithic. :)
    Distance to: Angela
    21.14146636 Anatolia_N:I0724
    22.94504304 Anatolia_N:Bar31
    23.03665340 Anatolia_N:Bar8
    23.36549165 Anatolia_N:I1099
    23.38653459 Anatolia_N:I1096
    23.50517603 Anatolia_N:I1097
    23.56406162 Anatolia_N:I1101
    23.61492325 Anatolia_N:I1583
    23.72350733 Anatolia_N:I1581
    23.75063368 Anatolia_N:I0736
    23.76400429 Anatolia_N:I0709
    23.79439640 Anatolia_N:I0707
    23.83260162 Anatolia_N:I1103
    23.85721065 Anatolia_N:I0723
    23.92799616 Anatolia_N:I0744
    23.94626902 Anatolia_N:I1580
    24.00642622 Anatolia_N:I0746
    24.02421279 Anatolia_N:I1100
    24.11479421 Anatolia_N:I0745
    24.20080577 Anatolia_N:I0726
    24.27382541 Anatolia_N:I1098
    24.42033988 Anatolia_N:I1102
    24.56931012 Anatolia_N:I0708
    25.16846042 Anatolia_N:I0727
    49.35008207 EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:Falkenstein


    Target: Angela
    Distance: 1.1726% / 1.17261047
    67.9 Anatolia_N
    25.1 EN_Steppe/Euro_HG
    7.0 Iran_


    Second version: closer
    Distance to: Angela
    19.13258216 Anatolia_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
    19.43512799 Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
    21.14146636 Anatolia_N:I0724
    22.94504304 Anatolia_N:Bar31
    23.03665340 Anatolia_N:Bar8
    23.04380177 Anatolia_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021
    23.36549165 Anatolia_N:I1099
    23.38653459 Anatolia_N:I1096
    23.50517603 Anatolia_N:I1097
    23.56406162 Anatolia_N:I1101
    23.61492325 Anatolia_N:I1583
    23.69716017 Anatolia_N:Ash131:Yaka_2021
    23.72350733 Anatolia_N:I1581
    23.75063368 Anatolia_N:I0736
    23.76400429 Anatolia_N:I0709
    23.78993695 Anatolia_N:Ash129:Yaka_2021
    23.79439640 Anatolia_N:I0707
    23.83260162 Anatolia_N:I1103
    23.85721065 Anatolia_N:I0723
    23.90117152 Anatolia_N:Ash136:Yaka_2021
    23.92799616 Anatolia_N:I0744
    23.94626902 Anatolia_N:I1580
    24.00642622 Anatolia_N:I0746
    24.02421279 Anatolia_N:I1100
    24.11479421 Anatolia_N:I0745
    24.20080577 Anatolia_N:I0726
    24.27382541 Anatolia_N:I1098
    24.28036655 Anatolia_N:CCH311:Yaka_2021
    24.42033988 Anatolia_N:I1102
    24.56931012 Anatolia_N:I0708
    24.84801401 Anatolia_N:cth842:Yaka_2021
    25.06358314 Anatolia_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021
    25.16846042 Anatolia_N:I0727
    25.73322755 Anatolia_N:Ash002:Yaka_2021
    26.36256626 Anatolia_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021
    27.82375424 Anatolia_N:cth217:Yaka_2021
    27.88627082 Anatolia_N:cth739:Yaka_2021
    28.17157610 Anatolia_N:CCH294:Yaka_2021
    28.87755184 Anatolia_Nch034:Yaka_2021
    29.20397747 Anatolia_N:cth728:Yaka_2021
    29.22242119 Anatolia_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
    29.54383354 Anatolia_N:cth747:Yaka_2021
    31.30873041 Anatolia_N:CCH290:Yaka_2021
    32.94488428 Anatolia_N:CCH144:Yaka_2021
    35.11164906 Anatolia_N:Ash033:Yaka_2021
    37.18643301 Anatolia_N:cth006:Yaka_2021
    42.85535206 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I1917:Mathieson_2018
    49.35008207 Steppe/Euro_HG:Falkenstein
    52.10466294 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0439_SVP52:Haak_2015
    53.64489538 Steppe/Euro_HG:I0585_LaBrana1



    Target: Angela
    Distance: 1.0872% / 1.08716157
    69.3 Anatolia_N
    25.8 Steppe/Euro_HG
    4.9 Iran_N/CHG
    Target: Angela
    Distance: 1.0872% / 1.08716157
    69.3 Anatolia_N
    25.8 Steppe/Euro_HG
    4.9 Iran_N/CHG


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    Jovialis/Angela: My distances using 2nd set of coordinates (Jovialis post #3). Thanks for these coordinates.

    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    16.64380065 Anatolia_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
    18.63624426 Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
    19.33226578 Anatolia_N:CCH294:Yaka_2021
    19.55767369 Anatolia_N:Ash002:Yaka_2021
    19.71250111 Anatolia_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021
    20.40028186 Anatolia_N:I1103
    20.50011219 Anatolia_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021
    20.58449416 Anatolia_N:Ash136:Yaka_2021
    20.79489360 Anatolia_N:I0708
    21.10829458 Anatolia_N:cth747:Yaka_2021
    21.11702631 Anatolia_N:I1098
    21.15314397 Anatolia_N:I0745
    21.24371672 Anatolia_N:cth739:Yaka_2021
    21.43394504 Anatolia_N:CCH311:Yaka_2021
    21.44078357 Anatolia_N:Bar8
    21.47035165 Anatolia_Nch034:Yaka_2021
    21.71732949 Anatolia_N:I1583
    21.79759620 Anatolia_N:Bar31
    21.94013674 Anatolia_N:I1099
    22.10455609 Anatolia_N:I1096
    22.12351916 Anatolia_N:Ash129:Yaka_2021
    22.12543559 Anatolia_N:cth728:Yaka_2021
    22.21080593 Anatolia_N:cth217:Yaka_2021
    22.29481554 Anatolia_N:Ash131:Yaka_2021
    22.34237006 Anatolia_N:I0746
    22.57005095 Anatolia_N:I1580
    22.66777889 Anatolia_N:CCH144:Yaka_2021
    22.72794755 Anatolia_N:I0726
    22.77664154 Anatolia_N:I0736
    22.82533242 Anatolia_N:I1581
    22.88856701 Anatolia_N:Ash033:Yaka_2021
    22.92344433 Anatolia_N:I0707
    23.08167455 Anatolia_N:I1097
    23.14108900 Anatolia_N:I1101
    23.24758052 Anatolia_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021
    23.40614876 Anatolia_N:I0744
    23.66940853 Anatolia_N:I0709
    23.90438872 Anatolia_N:I0724
    23.92354907 Anatolia_N:I1100
    24.12594247 Anatolia_N:I0723
    24.92428936 Anatolia_N:I1102
    25.45974862 Anatolia_N:I0727
    25.60418911 Anatolia_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
    25.78534467 Anatolia_N:cth006:Yaka_2021
    27.04685564 Anatolia_N:cth842:Yaka_2021
    30.91316548 Anatolia_N:CCH290:Yaka_2021
    39.67154396 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I1917:Mathieson_2018
    50.78055927 Iran_N/CHG:KK1_(Kotias):Jones_2015
    54.14963065 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0439_SVP52:Haak_2015
    55.51280213 Iran_N/CHG:SATP_(Satsurblia):Jones_2015
    57.19764855 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:MJ-06:Jarve_2019
    57.26738688 Steppe/Euro_HG:Falkenstein
    57.69170564 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0439:Mathieson_2015
    59.79222608 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Caucasus:ZO2002:Wang_2019
    60.71196834 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0357:Mathieson_2015
    60.97191321 Steppe/Euro_HG:I0585_LaBrana1
    61.29939151 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Caucasus:RK1007:Wang_2019
    61.67782746 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015
    61.89712514 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Caucasus:RK1001:Wang_2019
    62.24890682 Iran_N/CHG:WC1
    62.66288934 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018
    63.53288755 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015
    63.63866356 Steppe/Euro_HG:BerryAuBac
    63.93426546 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0231:Mathieson_2015
    64.37112396 Steppe/Euro_HG:Iboussieres-39
    64.46902822 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0443:Mathieson_2015
    64.48613494 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015
    64.65506013 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015
    64.78757906 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0370:Mathieson_2015
    64.95183908 Steppe/Euro_HG:I2158_OrienteC_HG
    65.29346062 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0438:Mathieson_2015
    65.52386817 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0444:Mathieson_2015
    65.76093065 Steppe/Euro_HG:Loschbour
    65.99077739 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015
    66.50334578 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015
    66.66977951 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015
    66.93204614 Iran_N/CHG:I1290
    67.24794421 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015
    67.43374007 Steppe/Euro_HG:I1507_KO1
    67.69103338 Iran_N/CHG:I1949
    67.97055245 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015
    68.01844970 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015
    68.27469443 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0429:Mathieson_2015
    68.39430751 Iran_N/CHG:I1945
    68.56312347 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018
    68.63891972 Iran_N/CHG:AH4
    68.68860823 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0441_SVP54:Haak_2015
    68.73373117 Iran_N/CHG:AH2
    69.39301982 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya_Samara:I0441:Mathieson_2015
    70.10167330 Iran_N/CHG:I1951
    70.12927705 Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0434
    70.14968639 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015
    70.34433168 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015
    71.01369797 Iran_N/CHG:AH1
    71.70740617 Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    74.29977793 Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    75.93938240 Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    76.98878230 Iberomaurusian:TAF013
    77.83365467 Iberomaurusian:TAF014
    77.90064826 Iran_N/CHG:I1944

    Target: PalermoTrapani_Combined
    Distance: 0.2849% / 0.28489377
    75.8 Anatolia_N
    19.8 Steppe/Euro_HG
    4.4 Iran_N/CHG

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    Here are my results for the second version:



    Distance to: Jovialis
    19.94650596 Anatolia_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
    21.85346197 Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
    23.13816544 Anatolia_N:CCH294:Yaka_2021
    23.20012500 Anatolia_N:Ash002:Yaka_2021
    23.58950402 Anatolia_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021
    23.95451314 Anatolia_N:cth747:Yaka_2021
    24.27320333 Anatolia_N:Ash136:Yaka_2021
    24.30411076 Anatolia_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021
    24.66315470 Anatolia_N:I0708
    24.73487214 Anatolia_N:I1103
    24.74127119 Anatolia_N:cth739:Yaka_2021
    25.07884766 Anatolia_N:I1098
    25.13719157 Anatolia_Nch034:Yaka_2021
    25.36800938 Anatolia_N:Ash129:Yaka_2021
    25.39665726 Anatolia_N:Bar8
    25.41394696 Anatolia_N:I0745
    25.41703563 Anatolia_N:cth728:Yaka_2021
    25.51205989 Anatolia_N:CCH311:Yaka_2021
    25.72155516 Anatolia_N:I1583
    25.79279744 Anatolia_N:I1099
    25.80343776 Anatolia_N:Ash131:Yaka_2021
    25.81740498 Anatolia_N:CCH144:Yaka_2021
    25.86732302 Anatolia_N:Bar31
    25.92490501 Anatolia_N:cth217:Yaka_2021
    25.95573540 Anatolia_N:I1096

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    ... thanks Jovialis :)


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    Salento: Really good model for you as well. Some really good fits here so far for everyone that has posted.

    Thanks again Jovialis.

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    hmm, I am disappointed that this modeling does not work so well with key ancient populations, I intended it for. I wish to make a calculator based on the samples I posted, in ADMIXTURE. While Dodecad K12b is a good calculator for what is was, it is not so great for modeling ancient populations. Rather, it is better for distances, both modern and most ancient, for populations that fall within the framework of modern populations.

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    Based con coordinates post #1

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    29.06795658 Anatolia_N:I1103
    29.09240107 Anatolia_N:Bar31
    29.15561352 Anatolia_N:I0724
    29.19644156 Anatolia_N:Bar8
    29.51292429 Anatolia_N:I0745
    29.66718052 Anatolia_N:I1583
    29.72733086 Anatolia_N:I1099
    29.78875963 Anatolia_N:I1096
    29.81948692 Anatolia_N:I1098
    29.85905893 Anatolia_N:I1101
    29.88486908 Anatolia_N:I1581
    29.92711145 Anatolia_N:I0708
    29.98266666 Anatolia_N:I1097
    30.01253405 Anatolia_N:I1580
    30.01472972 Anatolia_N:I0736
    30.16005139 Anatolia_N:I0746
    30.27063594 Anatolia_N:I1100
    30.37866521 Anatolia_N:I0707
    30.40748756 Anatolia_N:I0709
    30.50590762 Anatolia_N:I0744
    30.55791878 Anatolia_N:I0726
    30.78623556 Anatolia_N:I0723
    31.13173301 Anatolia_N:I1102
    32.22660081 Anatolia_N:I0727
    44.37733205 EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:Falkenstein


    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.9728% / 0.97275673
    54.9 Anatolia_N
    33.4 EN_Steppe/Euro_HG
    11.7 Iran_N/CHG

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    3.53593555 68.80% Anatolia_N:I0707 + 31.20% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.55328344 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0744 + 31.40% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.58227692 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0726 + 31.40% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.75938682 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0723 + 31.40% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.76162982 69.00% Anatolia_N:I0746 + 31.00% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.15475220 69.20% Anatolia_N:I1096 + 30.80% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.17182419 68.40% Anatolia_N:I0707 + 31.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.17774294 68.40% Anatolia_N:I0744 + 31.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.19372067 68.20% Anatolia_N:I0726 + 31.80% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.22656215 68.80% Anatolia_N:I0709 + 31.20% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.33298721 68.20% Anatolia_N:I0723 + 31.80% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.37788231 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0746 + 31.40% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.37821616 69.20% Anatolia_N:I1580 + 30.80% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.41010276 70.60% Anatolia_N:I0707 + 29.40% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211
    4.43362772 69.20% Anatolia_N:I0736 + 30.80% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.43653365 69.40% Anatolia_N:I1583 + 30.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.45778020 70.40% Anatolia_N:I0744 + 29.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211
    4.49679048 70.40% Anatolia_N:I0726 + 29.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211
    4.53008084 70.80% Anatolia_N:I0746 + 29.20% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211
    4.63899512 68.40% Anatolia_N:I1102 + 31.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.66714164 69.40% Anatolia_N:I1099 + 30.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.69421266 70.20% Anatolia_N:I0723 + 29.80% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211
    4.75393793 68.80% Anatolia_N:I1096 + 31.20% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.75742998 71.00% Anatolia_N:I1096 + 29.00% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:I0211
    4.77645090 68.40% Anatolia_N:I0709 + 31.60% EN_Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    _______________

    Coordinates post # 3

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    24.54064180 Anatolia_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
    25.69077656 Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
    29.06795658 Anatolia_N:I1103
    29.09240107 Anatolia_N:Bar31
    29.15561352 Anatolia_N:I0724
    29.19644156 Anatolia_N:Bar8
    29.42163490 Anatolia_N:Ash136:Yaka_2021
    29.51292429 Anatolia_N:I0745
    29.66718052 Anatolia_N:I1583
    29.72733086 Anatolia_N:I1099
    29.73983860 Anatolia_N:CCH311:Yaka_2021
    29.78875963 Anatolia_N:I1096
    29.81948692 Anatolia_N:I1098
    29.85905893 Anatolia_N:I1101
    29.88106758 Anatolia_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021
    29.88486908 Anatolia_N:I1581
    29.92711145 Anatolia_N:I0708
    29.98266666 Anatolia_N:I1097
    30.01125122 Anatolia_N:Ash002:Yaka_2021
    30.01253405 Anatolia_N:I1580
    30.01472972 Anatolia_N:I0736
    30.06690207 Anatolia_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021
    30.16005139 Anatolia_N:I0746
    30.16813882 Anatolia_N:Ash131:Yaka_2021
    30.25151071 Anatolia_N:Ash129:Yaka_2021


    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 0.0707% / 0.07072681
    64.2 Anatolia_N
    35.8 Steppe/Euro_HG



    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    3.04573908 67.20% Anatolia_N:I0723 + 32.80% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.22468779 67.60% Anatolia_N:I0709 + 32.40% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.23877576 67.40% Anatolia_N:I0744 + 32.60% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.36461390 67.00% Anatolia_N:I1102 + 33.00% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.53593555 68.80% Anatolia_N:I0707 + 31.20% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.55328344 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0744 + 31.40% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.58227692 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0726 + 31.40% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.67355152 67.80% Anatolia_N:I0736 + 32.20% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.73942865 67.80% Anatolia_N:I1097 + 32.20% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.75938682 68.60% Anatolia_N:I0723 + 31.40% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.76162982 69.00% Anatolia_N:I0746 + 31.00% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    3.78188114 67.60% Anatolia_N:I0707 + 32.40% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.82117964 69.40% Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021 + 30.60% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015
    3.82714107 67.80% Anatolia_N:I1580 + 32.20% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    3.87326599 72.40% Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021 + 27.60% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.00015324 68.00% Anatolia_N:I1581 + 32.00% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    4.03296826 67.80% Anatolia_N:I0746 + 32.20% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    4.11029584 69.00% Anatolia_N:Ash131:Yaka_2021 + 31.00% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.12985923 68.00% Anatolia_N:I1096 + 32.00% Steppe/Euro_HG:Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015
    4.15475220 69.20% Anatolia_N:I1096 + 30.80% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433
    4.17182419 68.40% Anatolia_N:I0707 + 31.60% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.17774294 68.40% Anatolia_N:I0744 + 31.60% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.18673505 72.00% Anatolia_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021 + 28.00% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.19372067 68.20% Anatolia_N:I0726 + 31.80% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0122
    4.22656215 68.80% Anatolia_N:I0709 + 31.20% Steppe/Euro_HG:EN_Steppe:I0433

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