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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoRevenge View Post
    No kid, you're chasing your tail. Why is Berisha not R1a, N1c, Q1e, etc....? Why it happened to be a E-V13 and not something else?
    Because they were Albanian.
    He is somewhat obsessed with Berisha tribe, but before the Ottoman Empire this clan/family was far more powerful than after, its only the Berisha clan who had balls to fight Mahmud Pashe Begolli and eventually kill him at a heavy cost, the beylerbeyler of Balkans (i read from people that he might have been himself a Berish, or Bardh). It's lesser known related Sopi clan (they thought they were related with Thaqi and Bytyqi which resulted not truth), who became a major line in Nish, Toplic and Vranje had as much as boom as Berisha if not greater than. This particular clan has traditions of greatly prospering from Ottoman militantism not the Berishas who suffered and were forced to migrate/split into mainly highlands.

    And no, the Berisha doesn't constitute the majority of E-V13 in Kosove, both Berisha-Sop consitute a good deal, but E-V13 L241, E-V13 FGC11450 has diversity as well and presence.

    As for J2b2-L283 in Kosove, it's overhelmly a recent founder effect from Krasniqi and Gashi tribe. Though Hoti, Kastrati and Korbi have a good deal, but nowhere near the amount of Krasniqi and Gashi.

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    i gave theytree the link to I20185 Kapitan Andreevo bam file
    and they uploaded it that was fast

    https://www.theytree.com/tree/E-BY3880

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/40c9...dd37e9503.html



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    i care for e-v13 even though i am in extremely different e1b1b1 branch
    in the end of the day they are still e1b1b1
    Direct paternal line : mizrahi from damascus
    e-fgc7391
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FGC7391/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    i gave theytree the link to I20185 Kapitan Andreevo bam file
    and they uploaded it that was fast

    https://www.theytree.com/tree/E-BY3880

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/40c9...dd37e9503.html



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    i care for e-v13 even though i am in extremely different e1b1b1 branch
    in the end of the day they are still e1b1b1
    They are quick, which is a big plus! The Sogdian/Iranian from Kazakhstan is there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    And no, the Berisha doesn't constitute the majority of E-V13 in Kosove, both Berisha-Sop consitute a good deal, but E-V13 L241, E-V13 FGC11450 has diversity as well and presence.

    As for J2b2-L283 in Kosove, it's overhelmly a recent founder effect from Krasniqi and Gashi tribe. Though Hoti, Kastrati and Korbi have a good deal, but nowhere near the amount of Krasniqi and Gashi.
    Great to see someone with actual knowledge of Albanian tribes (also not blending out the Hoti, Kastrati and Korbi). Albeit, I would make a clear difference in the Gashi since a great part of them in Kosovo are Bardhaj and Shipshan and according to genetic testing mostly E1b-V13. It is rather the Gasht e Gurit and even here only the Luzha/Botusha that are J2b-L283. They are evenly split between Albanians from Kosovo and Albania.

    Should be interesting how E1b-V13>L241+ and >FGC11450+ will be distributed during IA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mount123 View Post
    Great to see someone with actual knowledge of Albanian tribes (also not blending out the Hoti, Kastrati and Korbi). Albeit, I would make a clear difference in the Gashi since a great part of them in Kosovo are Bardhaj and Shipshan and according to genetic testing mostly E1b-V13. It is rather the Gasht e Gurit and even here only the Luzha/Botusha that are J2b-L283. They are evenly split between Albanians from Kosovo and Albania.

    Should be interesting how E1b-V13>L241+ and >FGC11450+ will be distributed during IA.
    My point was that while Berisha-Sopi indeed constitutes a good number, it's ratio is comparable to J2b2-L283 Gash/Krasniq. There are other E-V13 and J2b2-L283 sources respectively.

    And yes, unlike Krasniqi the Gash seems to be a bit diverse, but the one in Kosove are mostly J2b2-L283. I didn't saw many Bardhaj, but it looks in Deqan/Dukagjin area the Bardhi/Shipshan might be present among Gash, but in Drenic a lot of them are J2b2-L283 and other areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    He is somewhat obsessed with Berisha tribe, but before the Ottoman Empire this clan/family was far more powerful than after, its only the Berisha clan who had balls to fight Mahmud Pashe Begolli and eventually kill him at a heavy cost, the beylerbeyler of Balkans (i read from people that he might have been himself a Berish, or Bardh). It's lesser known related Sopi clan (they thought they were related with Thaqi and Bytyqi which resulted not truth), who became a major line in Nish, Toplic and Vranje had as much as boom as Berisha if not greater than. This particular clan has traditions of greatly prospering from Ottoman militantism not the Berishas who suffered and were forced to migrate/split into mainly highlands.

    And no, the Berisha doesn't constitute the majority of E-V13 in Kosove, both Berisha-Sop consitute a good deal, but E-V13 L241, E-V13 FGC11450 has diversity as well and presence.

    As for J2b2-L283 in Kosove, it's overhelmly a recent founder effect from Krasniqi and Gashi tribe. Though Hoti, Kastrati and Korbi have a good deal, but nowhere near the amount of Krasniqi and Gashi.
    I know Hawk, J2b benefited as well, it's a mute argument. He just likes to pick and chose while ignoring the bigger picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    My point was that while Berisha-Sopi indeed constitutes a good number, it's ratio is comparable to J2b2-L283 Gash/Krasniq. There are other E-V13 and J2b2-L283 sources respectively.

    And yes, unlike Krasniqi the Gash seems to be a bit diverse, but the one in Kosove are mostly J2b2-L283. I didn't saw many Bardhaj, but it looks in Deqan/Dukagjin area the Bardhi/Shipshan might be present among Gash, but in Drenic a lot of them are J2b2-L283 and other areas.
    Well, I get your point and certainly agree since that is what the data suggests.

    In regards to Gashi they indeed are diverse and I think with such a group more sampling is needed. I know quite a few Muhaxherë descendants here and a good part claims to be Bardhaj and results as this for instance:

    could hint at a higher presence of PH2180 in KS. Klina and the surroundings should also yield more PH2180.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mount123 View Post
    Well, I get your point and certainly agree since that is what the data suggests.

    In regards to Gashi they indeed are diverse and I think with such a group more sampling is needed. I know quite a few Muhaxherë descendants here and a good part claims to be Bardhaj and results as this for instance:

    could hint at a higher presence of PH2180 in KS. Klina and the surroundings should also yield more PH2180.
    I think i have read from some Serb records that in Nish, Toplic, Vranje they had the most trouble with Gash and Sop over there, they considered these two tribes as most anti-Serb. But, didn't know the Gash-Bardhaj skipped Kosove and went to Nish, Toplic and surroundings. That's new to me. I thought the Gash in Nish and surroundings they should be same as Luzha/Botusha.

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    I asked theytree to upload 2 more bulgarians
    I see they uploaded them

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/0c8b...52dfb2ebe.html

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/27fa...2102a44b0.html

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    Interesting subclade:
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY14160/

    Its more diverse and widespread on FTDNA, a position in an already more South Eastern (there are a couple) or unknown subclade would make sense if there would be a better coverage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Interesting subclade:
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY14160/
    Its more diverse and widespread on FTDNA, a position in an already more South Eastern (there are a couple) or unknown subclade would make sense if there would be a better coverage
    i gave today theytree site link to the bam file of
    I14465 Slovakia 650-500bc e-v13
    i see they uploaded it to there ytree
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/5a5c...1ef15cb4c.html

    P.s
    By the way 2 of the e-v13 himerans 480 bc were also uploaded by them after i gave them link to there bam:

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/341c...20d9b4593.html

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/8426...5df15d5cc.html
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    ok y tree uploaded this dude after i gave him his link bam file

    BAS025
    La Bastida Southeast spain bronze age 2000-1750 bc - E-L618> CTS10912
    ( sitting on branch parallel to e-v13)

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/497a...bd2a75ef8.html

    https://www.theytree.com/tree/E-CTS10912

    The site:
    https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Bastida_de_Totana


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    now fox i am looking for the chalcolithic e-m78 individual from ukraine
    if i will find it i will ask them to upload him
    he might not be e-v13 too early but still he is important could be e-L618 if the quality of his sample
    is good enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    ok y tree uploaded this dude after i gave him his link bam file

    BAS025
    La Bastida Southeast spain bronze age 2000-1750 bc - E-L618> CTS10912
    ( sitting on branch parallel to e-v13)

    https://www.theytree.com/sample/497a...bd2a75ef8.html

    https://www.theytree.com/tree/E-CTS10912

    The site:
    https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Bastida_de_Totana


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    now fox i am looking for the chalcolithic e-m78 individual from ukraine
    if i will find it i will ask them to upload him
    he might not be e-v13 too early but still he is important could be e-L618 if the quality of his sample
    is good enough
    The Lengyel and Tripolye-Cucuteni samples are definitely the most interesting because they might have been the source from which E-V13 survived into the Bronze Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    The Lengyel and Tripolye-Cucuteni samples are definitely the most interesting because they might have been the source from which E-V13 survived into the Bronze Age.
    There you go
    the ukranian tripillya from verteba cave
    I3151 only reach e-m78 level
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/e78c...05f163cca.html
    If he was in better coverage could end in E-L618
    Still cool

    The lengyel late neolithic
    I1900
    Is e-L618
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/4f93...37eea4224.html

    P.s
    I didn't found sopot individual bam file

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    There you go
    the ukranian tripillya from verteba cave
    I3151 only reach e-m78 level
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/e78c...05f163cca.html
    If he was in better coverage could end in E-L618
    Still cool
    The lengyel late neolithic
    I1900
    Is e-L618
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/4f93...37eea4224.html
    P.s
    I didn't found sopot individual bam file
    Thank you, great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Thank you, great job.
    The last himera e-v13 dude I17872 ( this is the one with
    The suposed caucasus autosomal profile)
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/3ad7...a484595ad.html
    Last edited by kingjohn; 08-11-22 at 18:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    The last himera e-v13 dude I17872 ( this is the one with
    The suposed caucasus autosomal profile)
    https://www.theytree.com/sample/3ad7...a484595ad.html
    At least its an additional confirmation! Thanks again!

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    Its about time for some dna papers
    With all due respect for theytree site
    the name of this thread is:
    e-v13 frequency map
    So here we go
    New research on szekely
    Found 6.52% 6/92 e-m78

    Source:
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...515481v1?rss=1


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    All the 6 e-m78 cases are snp confirmed
    And the haplotypes
    Were predicted in the nevgen predictor used
    In the paper are under e-v13 branch
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    Its about time for some dna papers
    With all due respect for theytree site
    the name of this thread is:
    e-v13 frequency map
    So here we go
    New research on szekely
    Found 6.52% 6/92 e-m78
    Source:
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...515481v1?rss=1
    P.s
    All the 6 e-m78 cases are snp confirmed
    And the haplotypes
    Were predicted in the nevgen predictor used
    In the paper are under e-v13 branch
    I saw that as well. They also quoted other results in the paper:

    The samples are from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odorhei_County

    There paper quotes other studies done on Eastern Hungarians in the Tisza zone, the hotspot for old Thracian and E-V13 finds in the past, from Bodrogkz, as well as Szekely from close by to the current samples (Szkelyudvarhely) and another site, Cskszereda (= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miercurea_Ciuc)


    Figure 6 from page 17:
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...481v1.full.pdf

    The conqueror ancient DNA is obviously not from the papers which focuses more on the Eastern/South Eastern part of Hungary.

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    e-v13 was found in 6.6% in Rétköz (hungary)
    and 14.58% in
    Váh valley ( slovakia)

    according to this paper:
    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2022.977517/full










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    Especially the ratio of E-V13 vs. J2b is noteworthy. Very interesting, thanks. I was waiting for that paper, but kind of overlooked it when the data came finally out.

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    i know it is old still good paper
    7.8% e-v13 total in italy :

    The lowest values for haplogroup diversity (h) are observed in Sardinia, while the Italian peninsula is characterized by a negative correlation between haplogroup diversity and latitude, resulting in a south-north decreasing pattern of variation (Spearman's rho  = −0.463, p-value  = 0.036). The most frequent haplogroups in Italy are R-U152* (12.1%), G-P15 (11.1%), E-V13 (7.8%) and J-M410* (7.6%). They are followed by three R1b-lineages (R-M269*, R-P312* and R-L2*), whose frequencies ranged from 6.9% to 5.7%; and finally from I-M26, which embraced more than the 4% of total variability. On the whole these haplogroups encompass ∼62% of Y-chromosomes lineages, while the remaining 38 haplogroups show frequencies lower or equal to 3.3%. Haplogroups distribution in the considered eight sampling areas is detailed in Table S1.


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    I, II and VI are much above average. So the areas of both strong non-Italic and strong-post Roman influx:
    - Liguria-Genua (Ligurians, Hallstatt?)
    - Venetia (Venetic, Eastern Urnfield influences)
    - Southern Italy (Greeks, Illyrians, Albanians)

    IV (Etruscan-Italic, multicultural Roman zone) and VIII (Sardinia, but especially around Cagliari the local people have a very high diversity E-V13 presence, presumably from Liguria-Genua) are the lowest.

    Its funny that Sardinia has overall a very low E-V13 frequency, but because of the really big sample taken, especially from Cagliari, we have a solid proven diversity and better knowledge of E-V13 diversity in Northern Italy through it. Interestingly, the Sardinian branches are largely old and independent, with the closest (still distant) related branches coming especially from the British Isles (England and Ireland primarily) and Germany-France, which would suggest a rather Hallstatt-La Tene connection.

    I checked on FTDNA for Sardinian flags:
    https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-Z5017/tree
    and
    https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-Z5018/tree

    From E-Z5018:
    E-Z21287
    E-FTB70721
    E-Z21366
    E-S2972
    E-Z42904

    From E-Z5017:
    E-BY4280
    E-FT79167
    E-Z16988
    E-Z21328
    E-PF6777

    Practically no close Balkan connections, but a lot in Germany and the British Isles, but distant ones, very little or nothing after the Pre-Roman Iron Age.

    If we would have such big samples from the region of Genua, the diversity would increase many times I guess. Definitely no recent bottlenecked founder effects.

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    this is also old but good paper :the 11.4% e-v13 in bergamo plain is interesting





    from the pdf :
    Y-chromosome haplogroups in Italian populations A total of 53 distinct lineages were identified; their frequency distributions in the examined Italian populations are reported in Supplementary Table S6 and illustrated according to their phylogenetic relationships in Figure 2.Haplogroup R is the most frequent (50.1%) with its two main branches, R1a (4.7%) and R1b (45.3%), the latter mainly accounted for by R1b-U152 (49.5% of the total R1b); R2 was not observed. Next is haplogroup J (19.2%), mostly observed as J2 (17.6%), and third is haplogroup E, as E1b (14.6%),mostly represented by its ‘Balkan’ sub-clade E1b-V13. The other main haplogroups show frequencies lower than 10%:haplogroup G (8.4%) and haplogroup I (4.8%).
    In Italy, E-V13 shows coalescent age and variance values similar to the Northern Balkan ones. These data are in agreement with a first migration of E1b-V13 from Anatolia towards the Southern Balkans, where it underwent a demographic expansion, followed by a later spread towards Southern Italy (Battaglia et al., 2009). The relatively recent expansion times in the Balkans are consistent with the Balkan Bronze Age, a period that saw strong demographic changes as demonstrated by archaeological records (Childe, 2013; Kristiansen, 2000), and could therefore,represent a possible time frame for the population movement into the South of Italy.E1b-V13 is also observed in Volterra and the Northern Italian groups, mainly in the most accessible areas (Boattiniet al., 2013). This observation supports a Balkan influence in Northern Italian populations as well, most likely through an Adriatic route and along the Po Valley and, to a lesser extent in lateral, more isolated, mountainous valleys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    this is also old but good paper :the 11.4% e-v13 in bergamo plain is interesting





    from the pdf :
    Y-chromosome haplogroups in Italian populations A total of 53 distinct lineages were identified; their frequency distributions in the examined Italian populations are reported in Supplementary Table S6 and illustrated according to their phylogenetic relationships in Figure 2.Haplogroup R is the most frequent (50.1%) with its two main branches, R1a (4.7%) and R1b (45.3%), the latter mainly accounted for by R1b-U152 (49.5% of the total R1b); R2 was not observed. Next is haplogroup J (19.2%), mostly observed as J2 (17.6%), and third is haplogroup E, as E1b (14.6%),mostly represented by its ‘Balkan’ sub-clade E1b-V13. The other main haplogroups show frequencies lower than 10%:haplogroup G (8.4%) and haplogroup I (4.8%).
    In Italy, E-V13 shows coalescent age and variance values similar to the Northern Balkan ones. These data are in agreement with a first migration of E1b-V13 from Anatolia towards the Southern Balkans, where it underwent a demographic expansion, followed by a later spread towards Southern Italy (Battaglia et al., 2009). The relatively recent expansion times in the Balkans are consistent with the Balkan Bronze Age, a period that saw strong demographic changes as demonstrated by archaeological records (Childe, 2013; Kristiansen, 2000), and could therefore,represent a possible time frame for the population movement into the South of Italy.E1b-V13 is also observed in Volterra and the Northern Italian groups, mainly in the most accessible areas (Boattiniet al., 2013). This observation supports a Balkan influence in Northern Italian populations as well, most likely through an Adriatic route and along the Po Valley and, to a lesser extent in lateral, more isolated, mountainous valleys.


    source:
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    it was always a weird study ..............they left out all the Adriatic side Italians except for the Salento peninsula ( heel of italy )
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
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