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this is also old but good paper :the 11.4% e-v13 in bergamo plain is interesting
from the pdf :
Y-chromosome haplogroups in Italian populations A total of 53 distinct lineages were identified; their frequency distributions in the examined Italian populations are reported in Supplementary Table S6 and illustrated according to their phylogenetic relationships in Figure 2.Haplogroup R is the most frequent (50.1%) with its two main branches, R1a (4.7%) and R1b (45.3%), the latter mainly accounted for by R1b-U152 (49.5% of the total R1b); R2 was not observed. Next is haplogroup J (19.2%), mostly observed as J2 (17.6%), and third is haplogroup E, as E1b (14.6%),mostly represented by its ‘Balkan’ sub-clade E1b-V13. The other main haplogroups show frequencies lower than 10%:haplogroup G (8.4%) and haplogroup I (4.8%).
In Italy, E-V13 shows coalescent age and variance values similar to the Northern Balkan ones. These data are in agreement with a first migration of E1b-V13 from Anatolia towards the Southern Balkans, where it underwent a demographic expansion, followed by a later spread towards Southern Italy (Battaglia et al., 2009). The relatively recent expansion times in the Balkans are consistent with the Balkan Bronze Age, a period that saw strong demographic changes as demonstrated by archaeological records (Childe, 2013; Kristiansen, 2000), and could therefore,represent a possible time frame for the population movement into the South of Italy.E1b-V13 is also observed in Volterra and the Northern Italian groups, mainly in the most accessible areas (Boattiniet al., 2013). This observation supports a Balkan influence in Northern Italian populations as well, most likely through an Adriatic route and along the Po Valley and, to a lesser extent in lateral, more isolated, mountainous valleys.
source:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...insights_from_a_male_Y-chromosome_perspective
If the ytree is correct
We have 1 e-L618 here
Will be interesting to know the date and place
https://www.theytree.com/sample/c78fb4945044b9fe160eb2916bdffad2.html
Source of his bam file:
https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB51862
IIRC it is probably in a context of mixed Meso-Neolithic lineages in a later period. Like even if being assigned to "Mesolithic", this might just refer to the forager community, but to a time they mixed with incoming (Impresso-Cardial related) earliest farmers. Similar to the situation in Northern Europe (Comb Ceramic etc.) and later in the indian-European mixed context, like finding R-L51 in North American Indians in 1700.
But like always, exact dating and context matters.
AU50474 | WOL001 | I-M423 MT : U5a2-T16362C | 2023-01-03 21:18:05 | |
AU50473 | WCX004 | R-M269 MT : U5a2-C16294T | 2023-01-03 21:18:04 | |
AU50472 | WCX002 | R-M343 MT : U | 2023-01-03 21:18:03 | |
AU50471 | VSL004 | R-PF6287 MT : U5a1d | Ukraine | 2023-01-03 21:18:03 |
AU50470 | VSL003 | I-M438 MT : U8c | Ukraine | 2023-01-03 21:18:01 |
AU50469 | VSL002 | I-S21825 MT : U4a1 | Ukraine | 2023-01-03 21:18:00 |
AU50468 | VO2001 | R-PF6287 MT : U5b2 | 2023-01-03 21:17:57 | |
AU50467 | VO1005 | I-P220 MT : R | 2023-01-03 21:17:53 | |
AU50466 | VO1004 | I-CTS616 MT : U5a2-C16294T | 2023-01-03 21:17:53 | |
AU50465 | VO1003 | I-FGC29562 MT : U4a2a | 2023-01-03 21:17:51 | |
AU50464 | VO1001 | I-FGC29562 MT : U5a2 | 2023-01-03 21:17:49 | |
AU50463 | UOO053 | Q-F746 MT : U4d | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:47 |
AU50462 | UOO052 | Q-F746 MT : U2e1 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:45 |
AU50461 | UOO051 | R-M459 MT : R1b | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:43 |
AU50460 | UOO047 | MT : U4 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:42 |
AU50459 | UOO037 | MT : U5a1-T16192C! | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:41 |
AU50458 | UOO035.056 | Q-F1096 MT : U2e1 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:41 |
AU50457 | UOO033 | Q-L804 MT : U5a2 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:39 |
AU50456 | UOO029 | MT : U2e1 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:33 |
AU50455 | UOO025 | MT : U2e1e | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:33 |
AU50454 | UOO023 | MT : U4a2 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:32 |
AU50453 | UOO015 | MT : U5a1 | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:32 |
AU50452 | UOO012 | R-CTS4975.2 MT : U4d | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:32 |
AU50451 | UOO004 | R1 MT : R1b | Russia | 2023-01-03 21:17:30 |
AU50450 | TTK001 | Q-M2520 MT : U7 | 2023-01-03 21:17:29 | |
AU50449 | STO001 | MT : U4'9 | 2023-01-03 21:17:27 | |
AU50448 | RIP001 | I-M223 MT : U4'9 | 2023-01-03 21:17:27 | |
AU50446 | RIE002 | MT : H2 | 2023-01-03 21:17:22 | |
AU50445 | PRD001 | I-L1286 MT : U5b1d | 2023-01-03 21:17:21 | |
AU50443 | Paglicci133 | C-F3393 MT : U8c | Italy | 2023-01-03 21:17:19 |
AU50442 | PA12 | R MT : U8c | 2023-01-03 21:17:18 | |
AU50441 | OST003 | I-M253 MT : J1c3 | 2023-01-03 21:17:17 | |
AU50440 | OST002 | I-M170 MT : U5b1-T16189C!-T16192C! | 2023-01-03 21:17:13 | |
AU50439 | OST001 | MT : H2 | 2023-01-03 21:17:13 | |
AU50438 | ORM001 | MT : U5 | 2023-01-03 21:17:12 | |
AU50437 | OKL002 | I-M423 MT : U5b1-T16189C!-T16192C! | 2023-01-03 21:17:12 | |
AU50436 | OKL001 | MT : U5b1-T16189C!-T16192C! | 2023-01-03 21:17:07 | |
AU50435 | MUR021 | Q-F746 MT : U2e2a | 2023-01-03 21:17:06 | |
AU50434 | MUR017 | Q-Y570 MT : U5a2b2 | 2023-01-03 21:17:05 | |
AU50433 | MUR007 | Q-L472 MT : U2e2a | 2023-01-03 21:17:04 | |
AU50432 | MUR005 | Q-F746 MT : U5a2b2 | 2023-01-03 21:17:03 | |
AU50431 | MUR002 | MT : U4a1 | 2023-01-03 21:17:01 | |
AU50430 | MUR001 | Q-Y570 MT : U2e2a | 2023-01-03 21:17:01 | |
AU50429 | MPR001 | MT : U5b2a1 | 2023-01-03 21:16:59 | |
AU50428 | MNN007 | MT : U5a2 | 2023-01-03 21:16:59 | |
AU50427 | MNN006 | MT : U4d | 2023-01-03 21:16:59 | |
AU50426 | MNN005 | MT : U4a1 | 2023-01-03 21:16:58 | |
AU50425 | MNN004 | R-M198 MT : U2e1h | 2023-01-03 21:16:58 | |
AU50424 | MNN003 [low coverage] | P-P337 MT : U4a1 | 2023-01-03 21:16:57 | |
AU50423 | MNN001.002 | MT : U5a1-T16192C! | 2023-01-03 21:16:57 | |
AU50422 | MN2003 | R-P297 MT : U5a2 | 2023-01-03 21:16:56 | |
AU50421 | MN2002 | R-M693 MT : U4a1 | 2023-01-03 21:16:53 | |
AU50420 | MN2001 | R-YP1272 MT : U4 | 2023-01-03 21:16:49 | |
AU50419 | MAZ003 | C-V20 MT : H | 2023-01-03 21:16:47 | |
AU50418 | MAZ001 | R-PF6155 MT : H | 2023-01-03 21:16:44 | |
AU50417 | MAF001 | I-A17060 MT : U5b1b | 2023-01-03 21:16:42 | |
AU50416 | LRO001 [low coverage] | CF MT : H16c | 2023-01-03 21:16:41 | |
AU50415 | LPI002 | I-M253 MT : H | 2023-01-03 21:16:40 | |
AU50414 | LMA001 | C-M130 MT : U4'9 | 2023-01-03 21:16:37 | |
AU50413 | KVH002 | MT : U5a1d2 | 2023-01-03 21:16:36 | |
AU50412 | KVH001 | R1 MT : U5a1 | 2023-01-03 21:16:36 | |
AU50411 | KRZ001 | MT : U5b2 | 2023-01-03 21:16:35 | |
AU50410 | JAZ001 | MT : U5a2b2 | 2023-01-03 21:16:35 | |
AU50409 | IGR001 | Q-M346 MT : U5a1i | 2023-01-03 21:16:34 | |
AU50408 | HohleFels49 | I-P37.2 MT : U8a | Germany | 2023-01-03 21:16:31 |
AU50407 | HohleFels10_79 | R-M269 MT : U8a | Germany | 2023-01-03 21:16:29 |
AU50406 | GoyetQ53-1 | R1 MT : U2 | Belgium | 2023-01-03 21:16:28 |
AU50405 | GoyetQ376-3 [low coverage] | CT-M168 MT : M74 | Belgium | 2023-01-03 21:16:28 |
AU50404 | GoyetQ376-19 | R1 MT : U2 | Belgium | 2023-01-03 21:16:27 |
AU50403 | GOY014 | MT : HV | 2023-01-03 21:16:27 | |
AU50402 | GOY009 | MT : U5 | 2023-01-03 21:16:26 | |
AU50401 | GOY007 | Q-L54 MT : H | 2023-01-03 21:16:26 | |
AU50400 | GOY001 | R-M269 MT : H | 2023-01-03 21:16:24 | |
AU50399 | GFW009 | MT : H2 | 2023-01-03 21:16:23 | |
AU50398 | GFW008 | I-PH2569 MT : U5b1a | 2023-01-03 21:16:23 | |
AU50397 | GFW007 | MT : U5b1a | 2023-01-03 21:16:22 | |
AU50396 | GFW005 | I-S21825 MT : U5b2a | 2023-01-03 21:16:21 | |
AU50395 | GFW004 | MT : U5b1b | 2023-01-03 21:16:14 | |
AU50394 | GFW002.003 | I-M423 MT : U5b2b | 2023-01-03 21:16:14 | |
AU50393 | GFW001 | I-FGC29562 MT : U5b1a | 2023-01-03 21:16:06 | |
AU50392 | GER003 | C-M130 MT : M33b | 2023-01-03 21:16:03 | |
AU50391 | GER002 | E-L618 MT : HV-A73G! | 2023-01-03 21:16:02 | |
AU50390 | FRM001 | MT : U5a2-T16362C | 2023-01-03 21:16:01 | |
AU50389 | FRL006 | C-V20 MT : M5 | 2023-01-03 21:16:00 | |
AU50388 | DRI001 | I-M423 MT : U5b2b2 | 2023-01-03 21:15:56 | |
AU50387 | DON006 | I-P37.2 MT : U5b2c1 | Lithuania | 2023-01-03 21:15:50 |
AU50386 | DON005 | MT : U | 2023-01-03 21:15:50 | |
AU50385 | DOG010 | G-Z6880 MT : T2c1c1 | 2023-01-03 21:15:49 | |
AU50384 | DOG009 | R-M269 MT : R | 2023-01-03 21:15:45 | |
AU50383 | DOG007 | I-PF6915 MT : K1e1 | 2023-01-03 21:15:43 | |
AU50381 | DOG004 | R1 MT : U5b1b | 2023-01-03 21:15:39 | |
AU50380 | DOG003 | R-M343 MT : U5 | 2023-01-03 21:15:38 | |
AU50379 | DOG002 | I-M423 MT : U5b2a1a | 2023-01-03 21:15:38 | |
AU50378 | DOG001 | I-P220 MT : U5b1b | 2023-01-03 21:15:36 | |
AU50377 | DOB001 | I-M423 MT : U4b1a | 2023-01-03 21:15:33 | |
AU50376 | DLV006 | C-V86 MT : U5 | Czech Republic | 2023-01-03 21:15:23 |
AU50375 | DLV005 | I-M438 MT : U5 | Czech Republic | 2023-01-03 21:15:19 |
AU50374 | CRW001 | MT : U4b1b1b | 2023-01-03 21:15:15 | |
AU50373 | CRN002 | I-L1297 MT : U5b | 2023-01-03 21:15:15 | |
AU50372 | CRN001 | I-L1297 MT : U5b | 2023-01-03 21:15:08 | |
AU50371 | CIO001 | I-M170 | 2023-01-03 21:15:00 | |
AU50370 | Chaudardes1 | I-P220 MT : U5b1b | France | 2023-01-03 21:14:59 |
AU50369 | Burkhardtshohle | I-M170 MT : U8a | Germany | 2023-01-03 21:14:58 |
AU50368 | BRM001 | I-M423 MT : U5b3b | 2023-01-03 21:14:57 | |
AU50367 | Brillenhohle | I-M438 MT : U8a | Germany | 2023-01-03 21:14:56 |
AU50366 | Bockstein | MT : U5b1d1 | Germany | 2023-01-03 21:14:55 |
AU50365 | AMI002 | MT : U5a2a | 2023-01-03 21:14:54 | |
AU50364 | AMI001 | MT : U5b | 2023-01-03 21:14:54 | |
AU50363 | ACR001 | R | 2023-01-03 21:14:53 | |
AU50362 | AC16 | R MT : U5b1a | 2023-01-03 21:14:53 | |
AU50361 | AAT001 | MT : U5a2-T16362C | 2023-01-03 21:14:52 |
There is no filetype hg19/GrCH37
It says reference assembly and at this point the meaning of it, this is my best guess.
GrCH37
Description: Genome Reference Consortium Human Build 37 (GRCh37)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/assembly/GCF_000001405.13/
Ok, i take it back then. My mistake. It's a very specific filetype.
Location and timeline remains disputed then. It was a bias on my own, because saw the Lalua-Fox Mesolithic leak for E-V13, then heard from somewhere it was from Greece. And, a coincidence lol.
it's ok
maybe we can know from where is from before the offical paper is published
by looking at his total autosomal picture ( or at least we know how much whg and how much farmer ancestery he had if any)
the problem is the coverage of him is pretty bad
will see
What about other "GER" samples or is he a singleton?
good question
there is another individual from this same site
GrCH37
Description: Genome Reference Consortium Human Build 37 (GRCh37)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/assembly/GCF_000001405.13/
The first and only opinion I heard from Anthrogenica suggests its an Paleolithic sample and either contaminated or has some false calls. So it might be a false one, we'll see.
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