La Tène Culture to Model Ancient & Modern Italians

Jovialis

Jovialis

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https://www.worldhistory.org/image/14458/map-of-la-tene-culture/

Much praise to Maciamo for processing the Paterson et al. 2021 samples, and sharing them with me. I will include them in an update of the Individual samples for the aDNA catalog for Dodecad K12b.

I have included La Tène, and Hallstatt samples, in the modeling I had previously used for ancient and modern Italians, ( Hungarian_BA:BR2, Catacomb, C_Italian_N, C_Italian_ChL, Minoan, Iberomarusian)

Code: 
Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0.62,0.55,37.53,0,0,0,15.52,0,45.7,0.09
Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017,1.16,0,2.96,0,37.9,0.23,0,0,13.01,0,44.59,0.15
Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017,0,0.05,2.92,0.4,36.38,0,0,0,13.48,0,46.7,0.07
Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017,0.58,0,4.33,0,39.44,0,0,0,12.45,0,43.19,0
Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.25,0.08
Minoan:Odigitria:I9127:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0,0,40.33,0,0,1.41,8.2,0,50.06,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9128:Lazaridis_2017,6.38,2.36,3.13,0,48.96,0,0,0,14.8,1.02,23.34,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9129:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,4.55,0,44.82,0,0,0,13.21,0,37.43,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017,1.38,0,0.19,0,41.77,0,0,0.28,17.61,0,38.77,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017,5.16,0,0,0,36.32,0,0,0,19.19,0,39.01,0.33
Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021,0,0,3.85,0.33,34.73,0.38,0.14,0.05,14.68,0.48,43.65,1.72
Catacomb:MJ-09:Jarve_2019,25.71,4.68,0,0.61,7.93,55.69,0,0,0,0,2.4,2.97
Catacomb:MK3003:Wang_2019,29.97,2.83,0,0.37,3.73,54.49,1.01,0,0,0,5.99,1.62
Catacomb:RK4001:Wang_2019,26.39,2.57,0,0,2.96,54.74,2.09,0,0,0,10.33,0.92
Catacomb:RK4002:Wang_2019,29.4,1.88,0,0,2.25,59.81,0.86,0,0,0,5.54,0.24
Catacomb:SA6003:Wang_2019,28.23,2.3,0,0,0.76,59.25,1.7,0,0,0,6.52,1.23
Hungary_1180BC:BR2:Gamba_2014,1.09,0,0.38,0,36.78,41.52,0,0,3.74,0,16.14,0.36
C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.77,0.12,60.45,3.99,0,0,10.54,0.02,21.81,0.32
C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.76,0,63.45,3.27,0,0,10.15,0,20.2,0.17
C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.67,0,64.87,0.54,0,0,0,0,31.92,0
C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.61,0,54.5,0,0,0.17,12.44,0,29.12,0.16
C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.22,0,52.75,0,0,0,11.28,0.2,31.18,0.38
C_Italian_N:R6:Antonio_2019,0,0,5.17,0,66.71,11.16,0,0.32,7.34,0.2,9.11,0
C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.42,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.2,0.44,29.46,0.24
C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.58,0,50.8,0,0,0,13.79,0,32.49,0.34
C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.35,0,53.37,0,0,0,13.76,0,29.52,0
C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.41,0,57.73,1.14,0,0,9.12,0.21,28.3,0.09
C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.12,0,50.89,3.18,0,0,13.16,0,28.66,0
C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.72,0,51.41,0,0,0.09,10.24,0,34.54,0
C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.33,0,55.74,0.85,0,0,9.83,0,29.26,0
Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52
Hallstatt:Czechia_I13781,6.20,0.00,0.00,0.14,38.66,39.72,0.85,0.00,2.30,0.67,10.26,1.20
Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980,0.65,0,3.67,0,41.76,30.94,0,0,6.19,0,16.55,0.23
Hallstatt:Czechia_I14983,4.66,0.11,0.74,0.18,35.81,41.52,0.39,0,1.8,0,14.18,0.61
Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071,5.13,0.00,2.36,0.00,38.23,39.29,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.00,14.03,0.52
Hallstatt:Czechia_I16088,5.87,2.57,0.00,0.00,38.83,39.71,0.00,0.00,3.62,0.00,8.54,0.86
Hallstatt:Czechia_I16092,0.00,0.00,4.08,0.00,59.70,12.92,0.00,0.00,6.68,0.07,16.15,0.41
Hallstatt:Czechia_I16326,3.57,0.00,0.37,1.34,33.64,48.74,0.00,0.00,3.50,0.19,7.01,1.64
Hallstatt:Hungary_I16327,6.72,0,0,0,38.03,40.63,0,0.07,4.2,1.47,7.85,1.02
Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227,3.73,0.00,2.56,0.10,37.43,38.27,0.11,0.29,3.18,0.29,13.84,0.2
La_Tène:Austria_I11699,4.19,0,1.44,0,41.59,32.68,0,0.82,4.89,0,14.38,0.01
La_Tène:Austria_I11701,5.29,0.3,0.06,0.66,39.07,29.93,0,0,4.92,0,19.15,0.61
La_Tène:Austria_I11708,1.23,1.05,0,0.31,39.79,32.82,0.19,0,6.08,0,17.86,0.66
La_Tène:Slovakia_I11712,6.95,0,0.08,0.12,39.88,38.44,0,0,3.58,0,10,0.94
La_Tène:Slovakia_I11713,3.46,0.21,0.11,0,40.46,38.98,1.4,0.41,3.55,0,10.52,0.89
La_Tène:Slovakia_I11715,6.92,0.29,2.98,0,41.55,37.22,0,0,1.97,0,9.08,0
La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716,0.74,0,0.22,1.14,40.3,32.92,0.69,0,3.69,0,19.61,0.7
La_Tène:Czechia_I13780,5.38,1.33,0,0,32.76,48.77,1.77,0,0,0,7.56,2.44
La_Tène:Czechia_I14984,6.26,0.51,0.61,0,40.39,35.64,1.22,0,2.95,0,11.64,0.77
La_Tène:Czechia_I14985,4.29,0,1.4,1.01,40.26,38.95,0,0,0.33,0,12.99,0.78
La_Tène:Czechia_I14986,5.97,0,0.77,0,38.96,34.65,1.11,0,3.93,0.21,13.55,0.86
La_Tène:Czechia_I14987,6.43,0.9,0,0,37.01,41.05,0.6,0,2.69,0,10.88,0.44
La_Tène:Czechia_I14988,4.53,0.85,0.32,0,35.88,37.63,0.74,0.22,2.82,0.12,16.9,0
La_Tène:Czechia_I15039,5.35,0,1.19,0.39,38.55,40.86,0,0.16,1.07,0,11.66,0.77
La_Tène:Czechia_I15040,6.9,0,0.37,0,33.57,44.72,0,0,2.07,0.22,11.96,0.19
La_Tène:Czechia_I15042,3.47,0.8,0.2,0.13,44.35,31.51,0,0,5.22,0,13.52,0.8
La_Tène:Czechia_I15043,4.29,0.88,2.1,0,44.01,35.76,0,0,0,0,12.67,0.28
La_Tène:Czechia_I15044,7.62,1.53,0.28,0,40.01,41,0,0.71,0.89,0.27,7,0.69
La_Tène:Czechia_I15045,9.49,0,0,0,34.78,46.32,1.89,0,0,0,6.2,1.33
La_Tène:Czechia_I15046,5.2,1.05,1.14,0,43.61,34.94,0,0,1.53,0,12.22,0.31
La_Tène:Czechia_I15047,3.93,0,0,0.22,34.94,37.96,0,0,4.24,0,17.84,0.86
La_Tène:Czechia_I15048,5.3,0.74,0.77,0,40.79,37.41,0.23,0,3.89,0.23,10.49,0.17
La_Tène:Czechia_I15049,8.92,0,0.15,0.46,37.94,47.13,1.02,0,0,0,2.74,1.63
La_Tène:Czechia_I15950,10.47,1.57,0,0,33.96,46.93,0,0,0,0,5.89,1.18
La_Tène:Czechia_I15951,3.16,0.14,1.48,0.12,38.76,42.27,0,0,2.5,0.08,10.45,1.04
La_Tène:Czechia_I15952,4.95,0,1.78,0.88,39.05,34.78,1.37,0,2.98,0,13.45,0.76
La_Tène:Czechia_I15953,5.79,0.98,0.24,0,39.9,37.06,0,0.94,2.66,0,12.25,0.18
La_Tène:Czechia_I15954,5.18,0.26,0.82,0,43.27,33.25,1.54,0.8,2.62,0,11.64,0.64
La_Tène:Czechia_I16268,8.79,0.24,0,0.06,34.04,51.76,1.42,0.52,0,0.18,2.23,0.76
La_Tène:Czechia_I16269,8.78,0,0.27,0,29.22,44.7,0.11,0,3.07,0.96,12.88,0
La_Tène:Czechia_I16270,12.7,1.80,1.81,0.00,34.56,45.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.37,1.23
La_Tène:Czechia_I16271,5.6,0,1.47,0.06,44.02,34.86,0,0.1,2.48,0,10.74,0.69
La_Tène:Czechia_I16272,8.03,0.69,0.00,0.00,31.58,49.44,0.00,0.62,0.84,0.04,7.67,1.10
La_Tène:Czechia_I16273,10.04,0,0.73,0,34.02,44.93,0,0,0,0,9.82,0.46
La_Tène:Czechia_I17139,2.69,0.04,1.28,0.26,38.8,28.7,0,0,4.4,0.09,22.51,1.23
La_Tène:Czechia_I17143,5.12,0.49,1.48,0.86,43.13,33.7,0,0,2.33,0,12.21,0.67
La_Tène:Czechia_I17145,2.3,0.3,0.43,0,41.29,35.07,0,0,4.78,0.36,14.51,0.95
La_Tène:Czechia_I17146,5.65,0.64,1.76,0.05,45.71,33.25,0,0.56,3.92,0,7.79,0.66
La_Tène:Czechia_I17313,13.7,1.02,0,0,35.61,47.62,0,0,0,0,0.97,1.09
La_Tène:Czechia_I17314,5.85,1.32,0.00,0.00,41.56,36.74,0.00,0.57,3.45,0.00,9.87,0.64
La_Tène:Czechia_I17315,4.93,0,4.08,0,35,41.51,1.24,0.64,1.36,0,11.25,0
La_Tène:Czechia_I17316,13.42,0.65,0,0,25.62,47.4,0,1.28,0,0,10.27,1.36
La_Tène:Czechia_I17317,3.11,0.22,0.00,0.36,32.01,49.73,0.73,0.63,0.00,0.68,10.93,1.60
La_Tène:Czechia_I17320,5.52,0,0.22,0,30.04,48.88,0,0,0,0.01,13.2,2.13
La_Tène:Czechia_I17321,6.61,0,1.37,0.9,41.3,36.61,0,0,2.5,0,10.22,0.47
La_Tène:Czechia_I17322,10.44,0.25,0,0,28.23,54.81,0.06,1.64,0,0,3.84,0.73
La_Tène:Czechia_I17323,4.86,0,1.71,1.51,46.77,31.05,0.65,0,1.76,0,10.83,0.86
La_Tène:Czechia_I17327,9.99,0.00,0.00,1.81,31.56,52.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.06,1.88
La_Tène:Hungary_I18110,4.68,0,0.3,0,41.31,39.19,0,0,2.15,0,11.6,0.77
La_Tène:Hungary_I18181,0,0,0,1.79,36.62,40.13,0,0,6.28,0,15.18,0
La_Tène:Hungary_I18182,3.74,0.64,0.26,1.37,33.44,44.42,0.5,0,1.76,0,12.92,0.94
La_Tène:Hungary_I18183,4,0,0,0.22,26.55,52.28,1.06,0,1.02,0.46,13.62,0.79
La_Tène:Hungary_I18220,2.2,0.52,0,0,37.2,35.39,0,0,2.78,1.4,19.78,0.74
La_Tène:Hungary_I18226,6.19,1.77,0,0.62,16.76,58.11,0.31,0,1.82,0,13.32,1.09
La_Tène:Hungary_I18489,4.74,0.5,1.97,0.97,37.64,32.44,0,0,3.52,0.67,16.94,0.61

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^^The gradient of La Tène culture matches the map. The North down to Central, nearly 50% to 28%.

After that, there seems to be a break with the south, I myself get about 6.5%. The modeling for the south still is primarily dependent on Catacomb and Minoan.
 
Jovialis: Thanks for the coordinates in post 1. My model fit with the Le Tene Culture samples. I get a really nice fit. You have any theories why that Le Tene result of 9% is showing up in the model for Sicily. Is it plausible that it is picking up EEF ancestry from a different source than say direct migrants from Anatolia into Southern Italy and Sicily?

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Distance to: Torziok12b
4.04659291 La_Tène:Austria_I11701
4.97288875 La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
7.33649780 La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
9.28841752 La_Tène:Austria_I11708
9.77924844 La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
9.90555905 La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
10.44153724 Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
10.45056936 La_Tène:Austria_I11699
10.80968547 La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
11.23034728 La_Tène:Czechia_I15047
11.36262734 La_Tène:Czechia_I14988
11.38354075 La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
12.17740941 La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
12.54464029 La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
13.39352455 La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
13.41350066 Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227
13.51586845 La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
13.74852719 La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
13.86519383 La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
14.55949862 La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
14.79431310 Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071
15.24122698 La_Tène:Czechia_I15048
15.31070214 La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
15.33783557 La_Tène:Czechia_I16271
15.36729644 La_Tène:Hungary_I18181


Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 31.7750% / 0.31774991
48.8 La_Tène
25.2 Minoan
9.4 Catacomb
8.2 C_Italian_N
3.6 Hungary_1180BC
3.4 C_Italian_ChL
1.4 Hallstatt



what is Minoan .............just ancient Crete ?
 
Jovialis said:
Minoan is more of proxy for [Anatolia_N + CHG/IN] ancestry.

@Palermo, I am not certain.
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Ok, thanks Jovialis. I would think it has be related to some population that made it into peninsular Italy and then Sicily as well. Maybe Italian Beakers, particularly the Northern Italian Beaker from Olade et al 2018?
 
Distance to:Dodecadk12bStuvanè
9.16037117La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
11.16701840La_Tène:Austria_I11701
13.75401032La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
13.96748725La_Tène:Austria_I11708
14.28850237La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
14.79376558Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
14.85500926La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
16.56699430La_Tène:Czechia_I15047
16.64927626La_Tène:Austria_I11699
17.29652855La_Tène:Czechia_I14988
17.62566027La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
17.98429593La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
18.05401894La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
18.23527899La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
19.53606921Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227
20.03366666La_Tène:Hungary_I18181
20.10824458La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
20.28454338La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
20.34573174La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
20.62124148La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
20.89569573Hungary_1180BC:BR2:Gamba_2014
21.20518804La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
21.27733301Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071
21.86515950La_Tène:Czechia_I15048
21.98921554Hallstatt:Czechia_I14983

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 2.5246% / 2.52459974 | ADC: 0.5x RC

62.1La_Tène
26.9Minoan
11.0Catacomb

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.3064% / 1.30638903 | ADC: 0.25x RC

64.9La_Tène
31.5Minoan
2.0Catacomb
1.6Iberomaurusian

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.2435% / 0.24345998

45.5Minoan
23.1La_Tène
14.9Hungary_1180BC
10.3Hallstatt
6.2Catacomb

Distance to:Dodecadk12bStuvanè
1.5168013446.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 53.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.1579881445.20% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 54.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I15040
2.1809477550.80% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 49.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I16272
2.2579086952.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 47.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I16272
2.2794715349.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 50.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I17320
2.2880304344.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 55.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.3166650446.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 53.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I15040
2.3725191454.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017 + 45.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
2.4044917657.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 42.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
2.4232711349.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017 + 50.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I17320
2.4403710555.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 44.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
2.4534354554.60% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 45.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16268
2.4945788155.40% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 44.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I17327
2.5043300050.80% Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017 + 49.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I17317
2.5563369753.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017 + 46.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I17327
2.5595019556.00% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 44.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
2.5686577944.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 55.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.6027139245.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.40% La_Tène:Hungary_I18182
2.6136630345.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.6348798255.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 44.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
2.6417469649.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017 + 50.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16272
2.6493445254.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017 + 46.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17327
2.6625839945.00% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 55.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.6962173943.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017 + 56.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.7649343350.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 49.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16272
 
Sicily BA is pretty heterogeneous, so I am not sure which sample would be ideal to use for the modeling.

Distance to:Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I10373:Fernandes_2020
18.24994247TSI30
18.33689723Tuscan
18.89257791C_Italian
19.91372140North_Italian
21.13300026Sicilian
21.39819619S_Italian_Sicilian
22.42316659N_Italian
23.29144907O_Italian
23.75471322Morocco_Jews
24.28492537Andalucia
24.75444607Sephardic_Jews
24.78331697Baleares
24.86046661Murcia
25.36307552Sardinian
25.42940817Ashkenazi
25.92965098Canarias
26.43118802Ashkenazy_Jews
26.59508977Greek
27.11882003Galicia
27.38124175Extremadura
27.89141086Castilla_Y_Leon
28.05802381Portuguese
28.14396561Spaniards
28.51618488Castilla_La_Mancha
29.19435562Spanish

Distance to:Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I10372:Fernandes_2020
18.10600453TSI30
18.23224616Tuscan
19.22998960North_Italian
19.26657987C_Italian
21.96219934N_Italian
22.30049551Sicilian
22.63878972S_Italian_Sicilian
23.34666571Andalucia
23.55689283O_Italian
23.81411346Sardinian
23.99809992Baleares
24.40759718Murcia
25.59595281Canarias
25.92037808Morocco_Jews
26.59940225Sephardic_Jews
26.65954988Galicia
26.79591014Ashkenazi
26.88012649Extremadura
27.16296744Greek
27.18593018Castilla_Y_Leon
27.23895740Spaniards
27.66268425Ashkenazy_Jews
27.71173939Portuguese
27.75940922Castilla_La_Mancha
28.15626396Valencia

Distance to:Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I10371:Fernandes_2020
23.89224770Morocco_Jews
24.43347294C_Italian
24.53686003TSI30
24.70891944Sardinian
24.76868386Tuscan
24.86621805Sicilian
25.34093724S_Italian_Sicilian
26.00781037North_Italian
26.27174338Sephardic_Jews
27.31072866Andalucia
27.48175941Canarias
27.71921896Murcia
28.35300866N_Italian
28.77094194Ashkenazi
28.95201375Baleares
29.02861864O_Italian
29.91830209Ashkenazy_Jews
30.60772288Extremadura
30.71951009Galicia
30.89522617Portuguese
30.98701502Castilla_Y_Leon
31.59311792Castilla_La_Mancha
31.87100720Spaniards
31.95426576Greek
32.31363025Spanish

Distance to:Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3878:Fernandes_2020
17.47656717TSI30
17.70747865Tuscan
18.23811668C_Italian
18.91028027North_Italian
20.85598955Sicilian
21.31192624S_Italian_Sicilian
21.40286897N_Italian
22.55001109O_Italian
22.91879142Andalucia
23.49923829Baleares
23.52594738Murcia
23.55087684Morocco_Jews
24.06703555Canarias
24.78835210Sephardic_Jews
25.23723836Ashkenazi
25.34231244Sardinian
25.81127273Galicia
25.97163453Extremadura
26.21664166Ashkenazy_Jews
26.29232207Greek
26.49906036Castilla_Y_Leon
26.57213390Portuguese
26.97947739Spaniards
27.40715600Castilla_La_Mancha
27.91590586Spanish

Distance to:Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020
14.78745414Tuscan
15.10316523TSI30
15.17786217C_Italian
17.72069694Sicilian
18.14121275S_Italian_Sicilian
18.20026099North_Italian
20.11411445O_Italian
20.36651173N_Italian
22.22025202Ashkenazi
22.39637917Morocco_Jews
22.52330793Sephardic_Jews
22.61825811Greek
22.98784679Ashkenazy_Jews
24.83001410Baleares
25.01247289Andalucia
25.85911058Murcia
26.36147947Canarias
27.47023116Galicia
27.71306190Extremadura
28.50696932Portuguese
28.51370898Castilla_Y_Leon
28.61259513Sardinian
28.72228403Spaniards
29.64624091Castilla_La_Mancha
29.98749406Spanish

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_lowcov_Vallone_Inferno:I4383:Fernandes_2020
11.53117947Morocco_Jews
14.26636955Sephardic_Jews
16.02649369Ashkenazi
16.54715686Sicilian
16.79822907S_Italian_Sicilian
17.60245437Ashkenazy_Jews
20.98409874C_Italian
22.35371334Greek
23.73595163Palestinian
23.93396123Jordanians
24.03689872O_Italian
24.23127112Lebanese
24.29365967Tuscan
24.46454986Syrians
24.59755476TSI30
24.84635184Egyptans
24.94803599Cypriots
29.19633881Druze
29.62412024Bedouin
29.63662599Samaritians
29.63887481N_Italian
29.84662795North_Italian
31.38385094Yemenese
31.89502312Turkish
33.75936166Bulgarian

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Isnello:I8561:Fernandes_2020
6.50962365Baleares
8.45121293Galicia
8.75598081Murcia
9.57816266Spaniards
9.70964469Castilla_Y_Leon
9.99150639Andalucia
10.04319172North_Italian
10.23018084Extremadura
10.86308428Spanish
11.05205411Portuguese
11.23375271Castilla_La_Mancha
11.24096081Cantabria
11.39101400Cataluna
11.53259728Valencia
12.06402918Aragon
12.59205305N_Italian
13.84547580Canarias
17.57268904TSI30
19.52399549Tuscan
20.11014669French
20.72332261French
21.51065317O_Italian
22.94789969C_Italian
25.99229116Pais_Vasco
28.49898770English_mixed

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7807:Fernandes_2020
16.08765054TSI30
16.78273816Tuscan
16.80401143North_Italian
17.37471726C_Italian
19.13826795N_Italian
20.70025604Sicilian
20.73786151O_Italian
20.86852894Murcia
21.02868279S_Italian_Sicilian
21.03733586Baleares
21.23285897Andalucia
21.91386547Canarias
22.82910642Galicia
23.11235817Morocco_Jews
23.30251274Extremadura
23.68439148Portuguese
23.97159778Castilla_Y_Leon
24.65464459Spaniards
24.72127626Ashkenazi
24.73006470Sephardic_Jews
25.01450579Castilla_La_Mancha
25.39647810Spanish
25.46427890Greek
25.90093821Ashkenazy_Jews
26.12654397Valencia

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7805:Fernandes_2020
20.69105121Sardinian
21.42800504Murcia
21.88528273Andalucia
23.07447508Castilla_La_Mancha
23.98389877Baleares
24.25488817Aragon
24.42661254Castilla_Y_Leon
24.56174668Spaniards
24.75276954Spanish
24.79329748Valencia
24.79684254Canarias
24.80854288Galicia
25.19646007Extremadura
25.28381696Cantabria
25.48904274Portuguese
26.00185955North_Italian
26.84770754Cataluna
28.79783325N_Italian
29.12299435TSI30
30.33233918Tuscan
31.78873071Pais_Vasco
31.99660138C_Italian
32.78398084French_Basque
33.71208389O_Italian
35.84688968Sicilian

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7800:Fernandes_2020
13.04013037North_Italian
13.56515757Murcia
14.33357946Baleares
14.37516956Canarias
14.51463744N_Italian
15.00154992Galicia
15.10902710TSI30
15.20647559Andalucia
15.25635933Extremadura
15.29688857Portuguese
16.74131118Castilla_Y_Leon
16.79297174Tuscan
18.00088887C_Italian
18.07759663Spaniards
18.20473839Spanish
18.29711726O_Italian
18.39134307Castilla_La_Mancha
19.82749354Cataluna
20.06664147Valencia
20.25515984Cantabria
20.39661982Aragon
23.32760168Sicilian
23.57913272S_Italian_Sicilian
25.67957359Morocco_Jews
26.51802217Greek

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7796:Fernandes_2020
16.30655390Sicilian
16.75089848S_Italian_Sicilian
18.29108526Sephardic_Jews
19.15464957Ashkenazi
19.42245350Ashkenazy_Jews
19.51535549C_Italian
20.33353880Morocco_Jews
21.32763934Tuscan
22.21257752Greek
22.83079499TSI30
23.27026858Cypriots
25.76837597O_Italian
28.91277053North_Italian
30.07307766N_Italian
31.16418778Turkish
33.21589830Druze
34.16545917Lebanese
34.32435870Turks
36.84976526Armenian
37.04547611Syrians
37.15142797Baleares
37.58590959Jordanians
37.58733297Bulgarians
37.61231181Andalucia
37.89955936Armenians

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7774_d:Fernandes_2020
18.73474313Sardinian
23.23936101North_Italian
23.57023123Andalucia
23.79303259TSI30
24.29344356Tuscan
24.49898773Murcia
25.33567445Baleares
25.53052487C_Italian
26.25303792N_Italian
26.54585467Canarias
27.16741430Castilla_La_Mancha
27.48473031Spaniards
27.53391363Castilla_Y_Leon
27.58069252Galicia
27.76601160Extremadura
27.94370770Valencia
28.05200171Aragon
28.37092702Sicilian
28.44474292Spanish
28.50177714Portuguese
28.53261993S_Italian_Sicilian
28.94163783Cantabria
29.18211439O_Italian
30.09297260Morocco_Jews
30.23306799Cataluna

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I11443:Fernandes_2020
11.01680534French
11.19093830French
11.86424882N_Italian
14.17487566North_Italian
14.78398796English_mixed
15.26991814Galicia
15.48873784Baleares
16.38935630Mixed_Germanic
16.49825445Extremadura
16.89934022Portuguese
17.29222369Cataluna
17.55357513Irish
17.91697519O_Italian
17.95502715German
18.13011307Dutch
18.28665907Kent
18.44372522Castilla_Y_Leon
18.52471322Spaniards
18.82351721TSI30
19.00207883CEU30
19.18736563Romanians
19.35278791Spanish
19.52616194Murcia
19.56545425Cornwall
19.59058447Hungarians

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I11442:Fernandes_2020
15.88527305North_Italian
15.95214092TSI30
16.68630576Tuscan
17.86497971C_Italian
18.59611787N_Italian
19.50311770Andalucia
19.74918226Baleares
19.77069043Murcia
20.89119910Canarias
21.19097921O_Italian
21.95873403Galicia
21.96411847Sicilian
22.30451075Extremadura
22.38227424S_Italian_Sicilian
22.71744264Castilla_Y_Leon
22.87722230Portuguese
23.22214891Spaniards
23.67015420Castilla_La_Mancha
24.13232687Spanish
24.44625125Valencia
24.84176322Aragon
25.03353351Sardinian
25.16915175Cantabria
25.21362330Morocco_Jews
25.75457629Cataluna

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020
17.65492283C_Italian
17.89370280Tuscan
18.27188003TSI30
18.53783429Sicilian
18.91862046S_Italian_Sicilian
21.49445975Morocco_Jews
21.55811448North_Italian
21.91138517Sephardic_Jews
22.74506980Ashkenazi
22.97286225O_Italian
23.65859886Ashkenazy_Jews
23.70690195N_Italian
24.52570488Greek
27.50350887Andalucia
27.69014626Baleares
28.21223493Murcia
28.34961728Sardinian
28.61262309Canarias
30.14680746Galicia
30.35888338Extremadura
31.03742096Portuguese
31.08414708Castilla_Y_Leon
31.40704061Spaniards
31.51221033Cypriots
32.04540841Castilla_La_Mancha

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3124:Fernandes_2020
10.68503159North_Italian
13.84330163Baleares
13.88138322TSI30
13.89421462N_Italian
14.50196538Andalucia
14.95155510Murcia
15.19967105Tuscan
16.50725295Galicia
17.04573260Canarias
17.10425093Extremadura
17.28742317Castilla_Y_Leon
17.48527952Spaniards
17.83494603C_Italian
17.93799041Portuguese
18.53059632Castilla_La_Mancha
18.72365883Spanish
18.82227404Valencia
19.32861609O_Italian
19.42591053Aragon
19.44008745Cantabria
19.96629660Cataluna
24.38152374Sicilian
24.81541859S_Italian_Sicilian
25.88968134Sardinian
26.57113095Greek

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3123:Fernandes_2020
13.83595678North_Italian
14.78342991TSI30
15.74675205Tuscan
16.69981437N_Italian
17.40144534C_Italian
17.60261912Baleares
17.66813516Andalucia
17.95127294Murcia
19.32460090Canarias
19.93286733Galicia
20.16577298O_Italian
20.36707637Extremadura
20.72959720Castilla_Y_Leon
21.00271649Portuguese
21.17428157Spaniards
21.81362418Castilla_La_Mancha
22.17241078Spanish
22.44356701Sicilian
22.46186991Valencia
22.88003934S_Italian_Sicilian
22.91993892Aragon
23.14364276Cantabria
23.68957999Cataluna
25.29083233Sardinian
26.09069183Greek

Distance to:Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3122:Fernandes_2020
13.80849014Sardinian
20.36149307Andalucia
21.73299335Murcia
23.31435180Baleares
23.77399840Castilla_La_Mancha
23.79380171Canarias
23.92738389North_Italian
24.29206043Aragon
24.39418373Valencia
24.50565241Castilla_Y_Leon
24.52934977Spaniards
25.22427402Spanish
25.35310632Extremadura
25.41595562Galicia
25.50970404Cantabria
26.03641104Portuguese
26.34696567TSI30
27.15237375N_Italian
27.24820728Tuscan
27.45849595Cataluna
28.99452190C_Italian
31.86845462O_Italian
32.89390977Sicilian
33.09240094Pais_Vasco
33.21465038S_Italian_Sicilian

 
Sorry, everyone, no more juice. :(

My results seem generally similar to those of Stuvane.

Distance to:Angela
11.05993671La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
13.59220733La_Tène:Austria_I11701
16.21546484Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
16.33682650La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
16.93758247La_Tène:Austria_I11708
17.01981786La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
18.42850509La_Tène:Austria_I11699
18.67689482La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
18.67808074La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
20.38625272La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
20.62161730La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
20.79852879La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
21.03071801La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
21.05470256C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019
21.11858423La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
21.18568857La_Tène:Czechia_I17323
21.80443304La_Tène:Czechia_I14988
21.84393509La_Tène:Czechia_I15047
22.10847349La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
22.66173647La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
22.75870603La_Tène:Czechia_I15043
22.93674781La_Tène:Czechia_I16271
23.14740806Hallstatt:Czechia_I16092
23.21414009Minoan:Odigitria:I9128:Lazaridis_2017
23.42461099La_Tène:Czechia_I15953


Target: Angela
Distance: 0.4669% / 0.46690057

36.0La_Tène
35.5Minoan
20.6C_Italian_ChL
7.3Catacomb
0.6C_Italian_N


Target: Angela
Distance: 2.6704% / 2.67037624 | ADC: 0.25x RC

67.4La_Tène
30.9Minoan
1.7C_Italian_ChL

TargetDistance | ADC: 0.25x RCC_Italian_ChL
La_Tène
Minoan
Angela2.67037624•
1.767.430.9
Average2.67037624•
1.767.430.9

Distance to:Angela
2.0912949044.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 55.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
2.2476360943.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 56.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
2.2774009046.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
2.2889927345.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I15043
2.2965525843.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 56.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
2.3352120747.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 52.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
2.3364545153.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 46.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I15044
2.3460564548.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 51.60% La_Tène:Slovakia_I11715
2.3479874361.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019 + 39.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
2.3664473145.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
2.3675722445.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16271
2.4271146645.40% Minoan:Odigitria:I9127:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.60% La_Tène:Slovakia_I11715
2.4966198249.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 51.00% La_Tène:Slovakia_I11715
2.5075944647.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 53.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
2.5248579041.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017 + 58.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
2.5318087042.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017 + 57.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
2.5471273057.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9129:Lazaridis_2017 + 42.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16273
2.5530885144.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 56.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
2.5698377843.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017 + 56.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16271
2.5911662744.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 55.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
2.6132695341.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017 + 58.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
2.7004343546.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 53.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
2.7239755645.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
2.7269324046.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I15043
2.7498971956.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019 + 43.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
Target: Angela
Distance: 0.4669% / 0.46690057

36.0La_Tène
35.5Minoan
20.6C_Italian_ChL
7.3Catacomb
0.6C_Italian_N
 
I realize that my results are rather messy, as I'm half British Isles, half Calabrese. However, I appear to have a lot more C_Italian_N (11.8%) and C_Italian_ChL (7.1%) than the full-blooded Italians here. If it's fair to double those numbers, that's 35% combined for Calabria Tirrenica. And I imagine the Iberomaurusian component could be doubled from 2.7% to roughly 5% or so.

My guess is that this points toward (1) "older" Italian ancestry in Western Calabria and (2) more Iberomaurusian, which could go back to Paleo times, but likely reflects Carthaginian, Moorish and/or Jewish inputs.
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Target: malaparte
Distance: 0.7165% / 0.71653806

34.8La_Tène
22.7Minoan
20.3Catacomb
11.8C_Italian_N
7.1C_Italian_ChL
2.7Iberomaurusian
0.6Hallstatt
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Distance to:malaparte
9.02623399La_Tène:Austria_I11701
9.23199870La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
10.54502726La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
11.85016878La_Tène:Czechia_I15047
11.95431721La_Tène:Czechia_I14988
12.00172904La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
12.01710032La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
12.64079903La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
12.80020703La_Tène:Austria_I11708
13.01991551La_Tène:Austria_I11699
13.45162815La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
14.00759080Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227
14.04352164Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
14.45504410La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
14.69837066La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
14.74309330La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
15.17342084Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071
15.51416450La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
15.72344110La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
15.76366709La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
15.86737533Hallstatt:Czechia_I14983
16.14664671La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
16.25061230La_Tène:Czechia_I15048
16.40958561La_Tène:Slovakia_I11712
16.45815907La_Tène:Czechia_I15046

Distance to:malaparte
2.5360986237.40% Minoan:Odigitria:I9129:Lazaridis_2017 + 62.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
3.0096947137.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 62.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
3.4161292937.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017 + 63.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
3.8156074636.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017 + 63.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
3.9731685744.20% Catacomb:SA6003:Wang_2019 + 55.80% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
4.0354399844.80% Catacomb:SA6003:Wang_2019 + 55.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
4.1024206445.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 54.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
4.1518009844.20% Catacomb:RK4002:Wang_2019 + 55.80% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
4.1919375936.80% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019 + 63.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
4.2076083047.80% Catacomb:RK4001:Wang_2019 + 52.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
4.2184800934.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017 + 66.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I16273
4.2213559638.60% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 61.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16270
4.3147230637.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017 + 62.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16270
4.3600019137.40% Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017 + 62.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
4.3811340736.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019 + 63.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
4.3912621141.60% Catacomb:RK4002:Wang_2019 + 58.40% C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019
4.4219733447.40% Catacomb:RK4001:Wang_2019 + 52.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
4.4271493934.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 66.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I16273
4.4437905444.60% Catacomb:RK4002:Wang_2019 + 55.40% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
4.4678413036.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017 + 63.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
4.4744891141.00% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021 + 59.00% La_Tène:Czechia_I17313
4.5097053231.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017 + 68.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
4.5426072641.60% Catacomb:SA6003:Wang_2019 + 58.40% C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019
4.6041191344.00% Catacomb:RK4002:Wang_2019 + 56.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
4.6272093244.40% Catacomb:SA6003:Wang_2019 + 55.60% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
 
I want to clarify some of the components of the calculator Jovialis designed.

C_Italian_N presumably stands for Central Italian Neolithic? Is this a different population source than Minoans? Why do Etruscans score high in it relative to others?

C_Italian_ChL presumably stands for Central Italian Chalcolithic? Is this meant to reflect Bell Beaker migrations into Italy?

If Sardians are 77% C_Italian_ChL and 23% C_Italian_N, then they must have been shielded from the many waves of Minoan-like peoples [Antalolia_N plus CHG/IN] that swept over the rest of the Italian South. And it's surprising that there is no Iberomaurusian ancestry in Sardinia????

Also, it strikes me as bizarre that Siciliy has on average 0% of these two components.
 
My results:


Distance to: italouruguayan
16.62701116 La_Tène: Hungary_I18489
17.44049885 La_Tène: Austria_I11701
18.02327107 La_Tène: Czechia_I17139
18.79803181 La_Tène: Hungary_I18220
18.86551351 La_Tène: Czechia_I15047
18.88750910 La_Tène: Czechia_I14988
19.07942871 La_Tène: Austria_I11708
19.10956828 La_Tène: Czechia_I14986
19.26264001 La_Tène: Czechia_I15952
20.13859975 Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
20.20676372 La_Tène: Austria_I11699
20.20684043 La_Tène: Slovakia_I11716
20.30100244 Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227
20.98470395 La_Tène: Czechia_I14984
21.08629887 La_Tène: Czechia_I17145
21.34666484 La_Tène: Czechia_I15953
21.76282840 La_Tène:Hungary_I18181
21.95401558 Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071
22.00161130 Hallstatt:Czechia_I14983
22.05562513 La_Tène:Czechia_I17315
22.05920443 La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
22.08379496 La_Tène: Czechia_I17143
22.20115538 La_Tène: Czechia_I15954
22.29781828 La_Tène:Czechia_I15048
22.48745206 La_Tène: Czechia_I14987
22.60981866 La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
22.63504805 La_Tène: Czechia_I16269
22.65098894 La_Tène:Czechia_I17314
22.69497742 Hungary_1180BC:BR2:Gamba_2014
22.72011664 Hallstatt:Czechia_I13781
22.72699056 Hallstatt:Czechia_I16088
22.77652300 La_Tène: Slovakia_I11712
23.08986574 La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
23.12747716 La_Tène:Czechia_I14985
23.28786809 La_Tène: Slovakia_I11713
23.36444735 La_Tène: Hungary_I18182
23.38016895 La_Tène:Czechia_I15039
23.40082905 Hallstatt:Hungary_I16327
23.45092749 La_Tène: Slovakia_I11715
23.70114132 La_Tène: Czechia_I16271
23.95780666 La_Tène: Hungary_I18110
23.97534358 La_Tène: Czechia_I15040
24.04427999 La_Tène:Czechia_I15043
24.51686154 La_Tène: Czechia_I15951
24.68204003 La_Tène:Czechia_I17323
24.89455764 La_Tène: Czechia_I17146
25.37379948 La_Tène:Czechia_I15044
25.49277349 La_Tène: Czechia_I16273
26.67937593 La_Tène:Czechia_I17316
26.86003909 La_Tène: Czechia_I17320
27.79867263 La_Tène: Czechia_I15045
27.99610151 La_Tène: Czechia_I15950
28.17119451 La_Tène:Czechia_I13780
28.23461882 La_Tène:Czechia_I17317
28.29225866 Hallstatt:Czechia_I16326
28.54849908 La_Tène: Czechia_I16272
28.86619303 La_Tène: Czechia_I16270
29.34601677 La_Tène: Hungary_I18183
30.80380171 La_Tène: Czechia_I15049
31.87272188 La_Tène:Czechia_I17313
33.24009176 La_Tène:Czechia_I16268
33.70303102 La_Tène:Czechia_I17327
34.48513738 La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
35.55360741 La_Tène: Hungary_I18226
36.79605685 Minoan:Odigitria:I9128:Lazaridis_2017
37.77199756 Hallstatt:Czechia_I16092
38.04258141 C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019
38.92345951 Minoan: Lasithi: I9005: Lazaridis_2017
39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
40.33522034 Minoan:Odigitria:I9129:Lazaridis_2017
40.46768835 Minoan: Petras_EBA: Pta08: Clemente_2021
40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
41.37859350 Minoan: Lasithi: I0074: Lazaridis_2017
41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
41.70165105 Minoan: Lasithi: I0071: Lazaridis_2017
41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
41.94096208 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
42.11336486 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
42.34487100 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
42.46943842 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
42.76264374 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
43.09636760 Minoan: Lasithi: I0073: Lazaridis_2017
43.18381410 Minoan: Lasithi: I0070: Lazaridis_2017
43.36973253 C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
43.82320846 Catacomb:MJ-09:Jarve_2019
44.18649907 Catacomb:RK4001:Wang_2019
45.28969861 C_Italian_N:R6:Antonio_2019
45.38223110 C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
46.12827766 Catacomb:MK3003:Wang_2019
46.25511323 Minoan:Odigitria:I9127:Lazaridis_2017
49.83429341 Catacomb:SA6003:Wang_2019
50.31556121 Catacomb:RK4002:Wang_2019
50.53211157 C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
72.08051748 Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018
73.30095088 Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018
73.37426592 Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018
74.11252593 Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018
74.23569896 Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018
75.00045067 Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018
75.08893793 Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018
 
Jovialis said:
Additionally, say if I take out catacomb, and minoan, and just keep the sicilian_BA samples, the fits for the South become much more distant:

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That is an interesting result, but since Sicily (L)BA had also some CHG/Iran_N contribution, I expected that at least some of the Minoan and Catacomb bits would be due to it. On the face of it it would seam Sicily (L)BA-like folks in Italy (from the abstract of a study we know Sicily IA was like Sicily BA) died out completely without leaving much of a trace even in the south.
 
Malaparte said:
If Sardians are 77% C_Italian_ChL and 23% C_Italian_N, then they must have been shielded from the many waves of Minoan-like peoples [Antalolia_N plus CHG/IN] that swept over the rest of the Italian South. And it's surprising that there is no Iberomaurusian ancestry in Sardinia.
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The Sardinian results on the calculator don't seem to square with the 2019 Fernandes paper on the Western Mediterranean
 
Malaparte said:
I want to clarify some of the components of the calculator Jovialis designed.

C_Italian_N presumably stands for Central Italian Neolithic? Is this a different population source than Minoans? Why do Etruscans score high in it relative to others?

C_Italian_ChL presumably stands for Central Italian Chalcolithic? Is this meant to reflect Bell Beaker migrations into Italy?

If Sardians are 77% C_Italian_ChL and 23% C_Italian_N, then they must have been shielded from the many waves of Minoan-like peoples [Antalolia_N plus CHG/IN] that swept over the rest of the Italian South. And it's surprising that there is no Iberomaurusian ancestry in Sardinia????

Also, it strikes me as bizarre that Siciliy has on average 0% of these two components.
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WHG and Steppe-like admixture are hard to decern in these old calculators, because they are both assigned the same component of "Northern European". Thus, I tend to avoid using "Pure" WHG sample.

Indeed, that is what they stand for.

Central Italian Neolithic has WHG, while Minoan does not; both have Anatolia_N + Iran_N. Though Minoan has a bit more Iran_N.

Central Italian Chalcolithic has even more WHG than Neolithic, because of a copper age WHG resurgence.

You can check out the C_Italian_N and C_Italian_ChL samples in Antonio et al. 2019

Minoan mostly comes from Lazaridis et al. 2017, and one sample from Clemente et al. 2021

Sardinians do not seem to jive well with these models. However, I didn't include the Sardinian samples from the Fernandes et al. 2020 paper in my demonstration with Sicily BA. I am kind of busy at the moment, but I will experiment with that later.

Southern Italy, and Sicily seems to have more affinity to the Minoan samples, maybe because they didn't receive the WHG resurgence, the center received in the copper age.
 
Fwiw, one of the models gives me 20.6 Central Italian Chalcolithic, and I am indeed 100% Italian.
 
K12b, using the coordinates posted by Jovialis. (Cycles - 4x. Results slightly change in each run.)
TargetDistanceC_Italian_ChLC_Italian_NCatacombHallstattHungary_1180BCLa_TèneMinoan
RegioX_FTDNA0.3282512711.90.15.00.00.056.426.6
RegioX_23andMe0.3404341311.70.05.20.00.055.327.8
Father_23andMe0.3967513111.90.08.90.00.052.726.5
Mother_23andMe0.218450262.40.43.30.512.254.426.8
Uncle_FTDNA0.439993820.60.01.019.411.837.429.8
In-law_23andMe0.673238460.00.06.10.012.549.032.4
Average0.399519876.40.14.93.36.150.928.3

An interesting thing that called my attention in this new paper is that many samples resemble modern North Italians/Spanish in admix, which inevitably brings us to Latin/Etruscan Autosomal. Since that old PCA that showed some Etruscan samples, we knew that Etruscans should plot this way approximately, and the Roman Soldier FN2 (as well the Swiss Iron Age sample SX18) reinforced the notion that this autosomal feature was likely common in parts of Italy and in the Alps those times. Indeed, the suggestion of the authors that FN2 was actually from SW Europe surprised me.
But I would not guess that this kind of admix would have survived in Eastern Europe for so long. I think it shows the ancestors of Etruscans and Latins who brought related languages to Italy in LBA/EIA(?) could have been similar.

Some examples of South Euro-like samples (apart those many from Croatia and Slovenia, less "surprising"), including the supposed closest modern individual in Autosomal (among those available):
- I11716, 167-46 BCE, Slovakia La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I15047, 260-180 BCE, Czech La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I17139, 290-250 BCE, Czech La Tène: Italian Lombardy
- I25522, 300-100 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I25512, 300-100 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Trentino
- I25510, 300-100 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Trentino
- I18531, 320-180 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Spanish Baleares
- I18529, 320-180 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Veneto
- I18528, 320-180 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I18220, 320-200 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I25508, 320-200 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Spanish Barcelones
- I18835, 320-200 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Trentino
- I18834, 320-200 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I18832, 320-200 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Albanian
- I18493, 320-260 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Albanian
- I18491, 320-260 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Trentino
- I18489, 320-260 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I20518, 330-280 BCE, Czech La Tène: Italian Northeast
- I17146, 330-280 BCE, Czech La Tène: Spanish Catalunya
- I17145, 330-280 BCE, Czech La Tène: Spanish Mallorca
- I18530, 381-203 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Spanish Lleida
- I4998, 391-208 BCE, Hungary La Tène: Italian Tuscany
- I20513, 400-200 BCE, Czech La Tène: Spanish Catalunya Central
- I18259, 420-300 BCE, Hungary: Italian Piedmont
- I11708, 500-200 BCE, Austria La Tène: Italian Aosta Valley
- I11701, 500-200 BCE, Austria La Tène: Italian Trentino
- I11699, 500-200 BCE, Austria La Tène: Spanish Catalunya Central
- I25507, 650-550 BCE, Hungary: Italian Lombardy
- I14465, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: Italian Northeast
- I12105, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: Central Macedonia
- I12099, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: Italian Bergamo
- I12098, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: Italian Veneto
- I12097, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: Italian Lazio
- I11722, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: French Corsica
- I11721, 650-500 BCE, Slovakia: Italian Lombardy
- I16086, 800-550 BCE, Czech Hallstatt: Spanish Aragon
- I14980, 800-550 BCE, Czech Hallstatt: Spanish Camp de Tarragona
- I11683, 900-650 BCE, Hungary: Italian Veneto
- I18246, 900-650 BCE, Hungary: Italian Northeast
- I18239, 900-650 BCE, Hungary: Italian Northeast
- I15961, 1300-800 BCE, Czech: Italian Trentino
- I25504, 1000-800 BCE, Hungary: Italian Trentino
- I13794, 1300-800 BCE, Czech: Italian Trentino
- I13786, 1300-800 BCE, Czech: Italian Trentino
 
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