La Tène Culture to Model Ancient & Modern Italians

Duarte said:
This is it, Stuvanè. :awesome:
I am seeing that the Spanish Basques (Vahaduo K12b updated spreadsheet) take a better fit, ie, lower distances (lower than’1’), being modeled with the data sources of posts #s 117 + 150 consolidated:

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Code: 
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C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.67,0,64.87,0.54,0,0,0,0,31.92,0
C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.61,0,54.5,0,0,0.17,12.44,0,29.12,0.16
C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.22,0,52.75,0,0,0,11.28,0.2,31.18,0.38
C_Italian_N:R6:Antonio_2019,0,0,5.17,0,66.71,11.16,0,0.32,7.34,0.2,9.11,0
C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.42,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.2,0.44,29.46,0.24
C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.58,0,50.8,0,0,0,13.79,0,32.49,0.34
C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.35,0,53.37,0,0,0,13.76,0,29.52,0
C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.41,0,57.73,1.14,0,0,9.12,0.21,28.3,0.09
C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.12,0,50.89,3.18,0,0,13.16,0,28.66,0
C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.72,0,51.41,0,0,0.09,10.24,0,34.54,0
C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.33,0,55.74,0.85,0,0,9.83,0,29.26,0
Mycenaean:I9006:Lazaridis_2017,3.38,0,1.25,0,36.32,5.47,0,0,7.73,1.07,44.26,0.51
Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,3.66,1.15,38.24,6.6,0.59,0.65,13.92,0,35.19,0
Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017,1.55,1.33,2.36,0,39.11,8.61,2.19,0,7.76,0,34.35,2.74
Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017,3.15,0,2.41,0,37.19,8.87,0,0,10.69,0,37.17,0.52
Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0.62,0.55,37.53,0,0,0,15.52,0,45.7,0.09
Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017,1.16,0,2.96,0,37.9,0.23,0,0,13.01,0,44.59,0.15
Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017,0,0.05,2.92,0.4,36.38,0,0,0,13.48,0,46.7,0.07
Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017,0.58,0,4.33,0,39.44,0,0,0,12.45,0,43.19,0
Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.25,0.08
Minoan:Odigitria:I9127:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0,0,40.33,0,0,1.41,8.2,0,50.06,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9128:Lazaridis_2017,6.38,2.36,3.13,0,48.96,0,0,0,14.8,1.02,23.34,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9129:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,4.55,0,44.82,0,0,0,13.21,0,37.43,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017,1.38,0,0.19,0,41.77,0,0,0.28,17.61,0,38.77,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017,5.16,0,0,0,36.32,0,0,0,19.19,0,39.01,0.33
Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021,0,0,3.85,0.33,34.73,0.38,0.14,0.05,14.68,0.48,43.65,1.72
Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017,6.07,0,1.17,1.3,27.23,3.79,0,0,14.72,0,43.22,2.51
Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017,7.88,0.24,1.61,0,26.13,4.81,0,1.72,13.22,0.03,44.36,0
Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017,8.73,0.62,2.12,0.42,25.19,0.9,0,0,14.26,0,45.14,2.61
Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52
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Distance to: Torziok12b
5.04659291 La_Tène:Austria_I11701
5.97288875 La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
7.33649780 La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
8.42660667 Bulgaria_EBA:I2165:Mathieson_2018
9.28841752 La_Tène:Austria_I11708
9.77924844 La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
9.90555905 La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
10.44153724 Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
10.45056936 La_Tène:Austria_I11699
10.80968547 La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
11.23034728 La_Tène:Czechia_I15047
11.36262734 La_Tène:Czechia_I14988
11.38354075 La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
12.17740941 La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
12.32196007 Bulgaria_EBA:I2176:Mathieson_2018
12.54464029 La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
13.39352455 La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
13.41350066 Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227
13.51586845 La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
13.74852719 La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
13.86519383 La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
14.47366574 Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
14.55949862 La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
14.79431310 Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071
15.24122698 La_Tène:Czechia_I15048



Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 1.3042% / 1.30418114 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.3 La_Tène
16.0 Bulgaria_EBA
10.9 Yamnaya
3.8 Anatolian_N
 
Stuvanè said:
Let's try again with this new set of coordinates :)

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.8393% / 0.83928193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.8Bulgaria_EBA
13.6Yamnaya
4.0Anatolian_N
2.6Anatolian_BA

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.0547% / 0.05465104
27.6Minoan
19.8Anatolian_N
10.0Yamnaya
8.8La_Tène
8.5Corded_Ware
6.9Hungary_1180BC
4.8Bulgaria_EBA
3.5Sintashta
3.4Nordic_BA
3.3C_Italian_N
2.9Hallstatt
0.5Mycenaean

Distance to:Dodecadk12bStuvanè
1.4565261461.80% Anatolian_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021 + 38.20% Corded_Ware:RISE446:Allentoft_2015
1.4647088942.00% Corded_Ware:RISE00:Allentoft_2015 + 58.00% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
1.5042577546.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269 + 53.80% Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
1.5168013453.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269 + 46.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
1.5924956445.60% Anatolian_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021 + 54.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
1.6710319141.80% Sintashta:RISE392:Allentoft_2015 + 58.20% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
1.8105566340.60% Anatolian_N:CCH144:Yaka_2021 + 59.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I14987
1.8913813043.00% Sintashta:RISE392:Allentoft_2015 + 57.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
1.8937451356.60% Anatolian_N:CCH289:Yaka_2021 + 43.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I17322
1.9063808245.80% Anatolian_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021 + 54.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
1.9097714859.40% Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227 + 40.60% Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
1.9304059857.40% Anatolian_N:pch034:Yaka_2021 + 42.60% Sintashta:RISE392:Allentoft_2015
1.9842372543.20% Sintashta:RISE392:Allentoft_2015 + 56.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
1.9999854843.00% Nordic_BA:RISE175:Allentoft_2015 + 57.00% Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
2.0195876028.80% Corded_Ware:RISE446:Allentoft_2015 + 71.20% Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
2.0517374134.20% Sintashta:RISE386:Allentoft_2015 + 65.80% Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
2.0566213143.60% Corded_Ware:RISE00:Allentoft_2015 + 56.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
2.0653420338.80% Corded_Ware:RISE446:Allentoft_2015 + 61.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
2.0750378563.60% Anatolian_N:CCH163:Yaka_2021 + 36.40% Corded_Ware:RISE1:Allentoft_2015
2.1427862872.40% Bulgaria_EBA:I2165:Mathieson_2018 + 27.60% Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
2.1579881454.80% La_Tène:Czechia_I15040 + 45.20% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
2.1756722044.40% Anatolian_N:cth217:Yaka_2021 + 55.60% La_Tène:Czechia_I16269
2.1809477549.20% La_Tène:Czechia_I16272 + 50.80% Minoan:petras_EBA:pta08:Clemente_2021
2.1860561131.60% Corded_Ware:RISE434:Allentoft_2015 + 68.40% Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
2.1993486153.40% La_Tène:Czechia_I15951 + 46.60% Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
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Nice Stuvanè.
Nice Torzio.
In my case, as I increase the penalties, there’s alternations between the ‘La Tène’ and ‘Scotland_CA_EBA’ among the sorted populations, and the fits tend to get less accurate.

Distance to:Duarte
11.37948593La_Tène:Czechia_I17323
11.70757874Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
11.72041382La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
11.98845695La_Tène:Austria_I11699
12.33060420La_Tène:Austria_I11701
12.46518752La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
12.49054042La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
12.68483741La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
13.43583269La_Tène:Czechia_I17146
13.49251274La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
13.61506886La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
13.76384031La_Tène:Czechia_I16271
13.87161130La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
14.01329726La_Tène:Czechia_I15046
14.39266480La_Tène:Austria_I11708
14.46976157La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
14.62512222La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
14.80779524La_Tène:Czechia_I15043
14.86207253La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
14.87106587Bulgaria_EBA:I2176:Mathieson_2018
15.35185657La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
15.91590085La_Tène:Czechia_I17314
15.99369251La_Tène:Slovakia_I11715
16.07290577La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
16.32261315La_Tène:Czechia_I15048

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.6704% / 0.67041298
31.3Scotland_CA_EBA
29.3Anatolian_N
24.6Bulgaria_EBA
6.7Iberomaurusian
4.4Remedello
3.7Yamnaya

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.6702% / 0.67018949
31.2Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
24.3Bulgaria_EBA:Bul8:Mathieson_2018
16.0Anatolian_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
13.3Anatolian_N:cth842:Yaka_2021
5.4Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018
4.6Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
3.9Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015
1.3Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.7158% / 0.71582245 | R4P
39.7Scotland_CA_EBA
30.3Anatolian_N
23.5Bulgaria_EBA
6.5Iberomaurusian

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.7158% / 0.71582245 | R4P
33.2Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
23.5Bulgaria_EBA:Bul8:Mathieson_2018
17.8Anatolian_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
12.5Anatolian_N:cth842:Yaka_2021
6.5Scotland_CA_EBA:I2569:Olalde_2018
5.2Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018
1.3Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018

Target: Duarte
Distance: 1.2737% / 1.27372714 | R3P
59.2Scotland_CA_EBA
34.0Anatolian_N
6.8Iberomaurusian

Target: Duarte
Distance: 1.2737% / 1.27372714 | R3P
38.1Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
21.1Scotland_CA_EBA:I2569:Olalde_2018
12.1Anatolian_N:Bar31:Hofmanova_2016
11.5Anatolian_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
9.7Anatolian_N:cth842:Yaka_2021
5.0Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018
1.8Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018
0.7Anatolian_N:Ash136:Yaka_2021

Target: Duarte
Distance: 2.0844% / 2.08435112 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.8La_Tène
29.7Bulgaria_EBA
16.5Anatolian_N
6.1Iberomaurusian
2.9Remedello

Target: Duarte
Distance: 2.0844% / 2.08435112 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.8La_Tène:Czechia_I17323
29.7Bulgaria_EBA:Bul8:Mathieson_2018
16.5Anatolian_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
6.1Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018
2.9Remedello:RISE486:Allentoft_2015

Target: Duarte
Distance: 4.6619% / 4.66187098 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.0Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
21.2Scotland_CA_EBA:I2569:Olalde_2018
18.5Anatolian_N:Ash040:Yaka_2021
10.0Anatolian_N:Bar31:Hofmanova_2016
9.5Anatolian_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021
6.8Scotland_CA_EBA:I5473:Olalde_2018

Target: Duarte
Distance: 4.6619% / 4.66187098 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0Scotland_CA_EBA
38.0Anatolian_N

 
Mine:
Distance to:Angela
6.71269692Bulgaria_EBA:I2176:Mathieson_2018
7.33042973Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
8.83255342Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
9.20749152Bulgaria_EBA:Bul10:Mathieson_2018
11.05993671La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
13.59220733La_Tène:Austria_I11701
14.02280286Mycenaean:I9033:Lazaridis_2017
16.01455588Mycenaean:I9041:Lazaridis_2017
16.21546484Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
16.33682650La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
16.93758247La_Tène:Austria_I11708
17.01981786La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
18.14376477Mycenaean:I9010:Lazaridis_2017
18.25134242Bulgaria_EBA:I2165:Mathieson_2018
18.42850509La_Tène:Austria_I11699
18.67689482La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
18.67808074La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
19.13258216Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
19.43512799Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
20.38625272La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
20.62161730La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
20.79852879La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
21.03071801La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
21.05470256C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019
21.11858423La_Tène:Czechia_I15954

Once again, the Mycenaeans who come in at 7 or 8 are at about a distance of 13 to modern Southern Italians.


Target: Angela
Distance: 1.1354% / 1.13543594 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.3Bulgaria_EBA
15.5La_Tène
14.2Yamnaya
11.6C_Italian_ChL
6.8Mycenaean
2.6Anatolian_N


Target: Angela
Distance: 0.1930% / 0.19295085
31.0Minoan
19.0C_Italian_ChL
10.3La_Tène
9.0Anatolian_N
7.9Yamnaya
7.1Nordic_BA
6.9Hungary_1180BC
4.7Corded_Ware
2.2Hallstatt
1.3Remedello
0.3Bulgaria_EBA
0.3Sintashta
 
European Populations from Vahaduo Dodecad K12b Original Spreadsheet, with source data from post #153 (fits and sorted populations). Added distances of columns (ADC): none, 0.25 and 0.50

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this is me (half Calabria, half British Isles) on Duarte's test from post 153

Target: malaparte
Distance: 0.3736% / 0.37364661

17.8Yamnaya
14.3C_Italian_N
13.9La_Tène
12.4Anatolian_N
11.6Anatolian_BA
10.8Corded_Ware
8.3Sintashta
4.3C_Italian_ChL
2.9Scotland_CA_EBA
2.0Iberomaurusian
1.3Mycenaean
0.4Minoan


Distance to:malaparte
8.62524782Bulgaria_EBA:I2165:Mathieson_2018
9.02623399La_Tène:Austria_I11701
9.23199870La_Tène:Hungary_I18489
10.54502726La_Tène:Czechia_I17139
11.85016878La_Tène:Czechia_I15047
11.95431721La_Tène:Czechia_I14988
12.00172904La_Tène:Czechia_I14986
12.01710032La_Tène:Hungary_I18220
12.64079903La_Tène:Czechia_I15952
12.80020703La_Tène:Austria_I11708
13.01991551La_Tène:Austria_I11699
13.45162815La_Tène:Slovakia_I11716
14.00759080Hallstatt:Czechia_I18227
14.04352164Hallstatt:Czechia_I14980
14.45504410La_Tène:Czechia_I14984
14.69837066La_Tène:Czechia_I17145
14.74309330La_Tène:Czechia_I15953
15.17342084Hallstatt:Czechia_I15071
15.51416450La_Tène:Czechia_I17143
15.72344110La_Tène:Czechia_I15042
15.76366709La_Tène:Czechia_I15954
15.86737533Hallstatt:Czechia_I14983
16.14664671La_Tène:Czechia_I17321
16.25061230La_Tène:Czechia_I15048
16.40958561La_Tène:Slovakia_I11712

And my mother (half Ireland, half Yorkshire) as a comparison

Target: mom
Distance: 0.2037% / 0.20369991

51.6Nordic_BA
15.0Sintashta
11.9Corded_Ware
6.6C_Italian_ChL
5.2Yamnaya
5.0Anatolian_N
4.7Remedello

Distance to:mom
4.41324144Nordic_BA:RISE210:Allentoft_2015
4.51323609La_Tène:Czechia_I15045
4.63180310La_Tène:Czechia_I16273
5.06333882La_Tène:Czechia_I15044
5.67529735La_Tène:Czechia_I15950
6.01578756La_Tène:Czechia_I15049
6.04162230La_Tène:Czechia_I14987
6.45575712La_Tène:Czechia_I15040
6.48172816Scotland_CA_EBA:I3132:Olalde_2018
6.51215018Hallstatt:Hungary_I16327
6.54771716La_Tène:Czechia_I15039
6.71968749Hallstatt:Czechia_I13781
7.15945529La_Tène:Czechia_I15951
7.45200644Hallstatt:Czechia_I16088
7.83615339La_Tène:Czechia_I17315
7.84242947La_Tène:Czechia_I13780
8.00786488Corded_Ware:RISE436:Allentoft_2015
8.01213455La_Tène:Czechia_I16272
8.10357329La_Tène:Slovakia_I11712
8.27903376La_Tène:Czechia_I16270
8.52180732Hallstatt:Czechia_I14983
8.55043274La_Tène:Hungary_I18182
8.66768712Hallstatt:Czechia_I16326
8.76909345La_Tène:Hungary_I18110
9.04280930Scotland_CA_EBA:I2567:Olalde_2018
 
Where is the Nordic_BA sample from? Is it a "pre German" population? The Irish seem to score very high in it, Brits in general.
 
Jovialis said:
To me it seems there are two types of ancient Balkan & Greek-like ancestry that can be decerned. You have an Ancient Balkan & Northern Greek to Ancient Achaean cline of Steppe + Minoan, and then you have an Aegean Islander construct of mostly Anatolian_BA + smaller components of steppe and Iberomurursian. There is also a broader cline that is a mix of those two clines.
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The "Greek" component of my Calabrian Tirrenica is definitely the Aegean Islander type; the other major component seems to be Hallstatt-like (though my results are always tricky to interpret as I am half British).
 
Angela said:
I'm not quite sure what to make of the Iberomaurisian in the Balkans during the Neolithic and Chalcolithic and Bronze Age. I have to think about it. I think we can forget about the "usual suspsects", the Carthaginians, unless they teleported back in time. :)
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For me personally, this is the most fascinating question.
 
Hi, these are my results

C_Italian_Chl:12.3
C_Italian_N:6.0
Corded_Ware:0.6
Hallstat:1.7
Hungary_1180BC:0.9
La_Téne:21.4
Minoan:24.1
Mycenean:8.7
Nordic_BA:14.5
Sintashta:7.1
Yamnaya:2.7


They seems pretty typical for a northern italian.
I have few questions, if someone can answer.
1)Are the minoan and mycenean really indicative of a greek ancestry or they are just representing a EEF/Anatolian component in a northern italian?
2)What is Nordic_BA?
3)Why the majority of steppe ancestry is from Sintashta? i though most of west european steppe component comes from Yamnaya, and Sintashta is more related to Iran and Scythian.
Maybe it was brought by Lombards or other eastern germanic tribes.
Is it accurate or are they indistinguishable?
Thanks if someone more expert than me can help.
 
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