In La Tene paper one V13 sample, I14465, is of the Vekerzug culture. By the traits of this burial, all indications are he is by far the most Scythian of any Vekerzug samples.

His, and origin of few other (mostly female) samples judging by closest analogies of that material is most likely the NW Romania, the Sanislău has close parallels, including some indications of certain urns (probably hinting at Eastern Gava origins).

In this area occurred the formation of a Scythian culture per some associated with the Agathyrsi or more precisely the Ciumbrud group related to the Vekerzug. Vekerzug samples are not really typical Steppe Scythian, so it seems that profile wasn't that present among them. We know from earlier studies only minority of Scythians had a typical Steppe profile. Yet it does count culturally as Scythian.

And actually in Transylvania these people represented the dominant political factor until the arrival of the Celts, only later did the Dacians establish their domination of the region by toppling the Celts, and including in their ranks the old Agathyrsi.

This is why archeologically Dacians were different as opposed to Getae, groups from modern day Wallachia and Moldavia. These too had some Scythian influences of different kind.

It seems plenty or most of those Scythians were of proto-Daco-Thracian origin anyway.

Vekerzug had mixed elements but that V13 sample was most Scythian of any of those samples. He and two other female samples show alot more South-Eastern autosomal profile, especially the females. It seems there really were some EEF (+Anatolian) heavy people in Carpathians as indicated by the low steppe J2a EBA and LBA finds in NE Hungary in the Pannonian study.

As around the Balkans appeared some Scythian influence, for example in Atenica close parallels to the very Vekerzug site of Chotin. Even in Illyrian Drilon-Romaja culture appeared this influence in Romaja. I used to think these were usual R-Z93's that have died out, but now I wonder whether some V13 Balkan clades stem from these people.

I actually long ago mentioned maybe Albanian clade of Z17107>BY4465 as maybe being related to Atenica. Z17107 is an early Iron Age clade and it is very diverse in Carpathians.

Also another Z17107 clade, E-A19247, has one Albanian with NE Hungarian cluster, sharing one SNP, TMRCA estimated 2400 ybp, but just sharing 1 SNP.

Z17107 has a clade E-Y196687 made up of an Englishman and Russian from Rostov.

And ofc my own subclade of Z17107>A24070 is very strong in Transylvania. Other than East Hungarian, there are actually Transylvanian Romanians closely related to both me and the Bosnian clade. Plus we have a N.Hungarian/W.Ukrainian Z17107 EIA clade.

Ofc plenty of other clades as candidates, but Vekerzug find makes me believe some V13 arrived to the Balkans this way.

This V13 Vekerzug sample is just V13 for now, I don't think anyone found anything below.

Other Vekerzug samples do not really show strong Scythian connection, for example the R-L2 samples or the R-PF7592. Most likely some locals.